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snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

December 5, 2001
12:48 AM

Post #18983

A friend gave me this branch today. The lady that gave it to her said it is a pumpkin tree. She didn't know much about it. It has thorns on the branches like a rose bush. The little pumkins are shriveled up in this picture but she said when it was fresh they were perfect little pumpkins.She used them in floral bouquets. They are full of seeds. Does anyone know what the correct name is to this plant?

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Evert
Helsinki
Finland
(Zone 4b)


December 5, 2001
11:33 AM

Post #172609

I don't know but it looks cool!
MOLLYBEE
Villa Rica, GA
(Zone 7a)

December 5, 2001
12:17 PM

Post #172616

This is a new one for me too, but I'd love to try some of the seeds after you get it going good!

Larkie

Larkie
Camilla, GA
(Zone 8a)

December 5, 2001
12:17 PM

Post #172617

lol...
looks like dried up persimmons..
Larkie
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

December 5, 2001
12:52 PM

Post #172640

Larkie, that's what I was thinking too.
Evert
Helsinki
Finland
(Zone 4b)


December 5, 2001
1:35 PM

Post #172664

Hey that could be it! I mean, some Diospyros species.. They have pretty dark bark don't they? Cause they belong to Ebenaceae family.. And isn't eben tree black, like it says in the story, snow white - "and her hair was black like an eben tree"... ?

How big are the seeds? If they are brown and not very small it could be some Diospyros species.
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

December 6, 2001
4:08 PM

Post #173234

The seeds are cream color and are just like pepper seeds. The branches have thorns the same as a rose bush and they look exactly like tiny pumpkins.
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

December 6, 2001
4:09 PM

Post #173237

The seeds are cream color and are just like pepper seeds. The branches have thorns the same as a rose bush and they look exactly like tiny pumpkins.Do persimmons have thorns on their branches?
Evert
Helsinki
Finland
(Zone 4b)


December 6, 2001
4:30 PM

Post #173249

Oh, then it's not any diospyros/persimon... hmm. Are those branches hard and woody?
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

December 6, 2001
4:55 PM

Post #173261

Yes Evert, They seem to be hard and woody with thorns.
Jianhua
Shangshui, Henan
China
(Zone 7b)

December 9, 2001
12:01 PM

Post #174504

UFO to me.
REDROSE
New Iberia, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 9, 2001
1:48 PM

Post #174558

LOL funny what Jian said UFO true to me too. WEIRDO! never see this before. What the HECK is that?

This message was edited Sunday, Dec 9th 10:18 AM
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

December 9, 2001
2:13 PM

Post #174564

can not find anything on pumpkin tree except ... pumpkin ash http://www.museum.state.il.us/muslink/forest/htmls/trees/F-profunda.html


could it be a tomato tree??? http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_MV146 http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/tree_tomato.html
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

December 10, 2001
3:13 AM

Post #174848

MaVieRose, Looked at your links and they are not the same as this branch. I wish the fruits were not so shriveled up but my friend had them for awhile before she gave them to me. They have the same vertical lines on them that a pumpkin does. I'm beginning to think a UFO dropped it out of the sky.
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

December 11, 2001
8:43 AM

Post #175265

url mentioned were NOT referring to pumpkin tree u have. if u notice i said, i can NOT find anything close to it. the only reason why i ask if it is a tomato tree is because it looks similar to a tomato tree a neighbor used to have.

maybe someone else can help. i tried, but can not find any. it is not persimmons either!
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

December 11, 2001
1:21 PM

Post #175347

MaVieRose, Thanks for your help. I'm stumped too and can't find anything on it. I guess I'll just try to grow it next year and see what comes out. LOL
Jianhua
Shangshui, Henan
China
(Zone 7b)

December 15, 2001
1:31 PM

Post #177505

New discovery about the 'Pumpkin Tree'
I get from Brasil's Gustavo a plant stamp.
on the plant there is one big red pumpkin,
which looks much alike the above one.
here are the words on the stamp:
Brasil 99
R$ 0,50

PITANGA (think this might be the name of
the plant in Portuguese??)
waiting for our gardening friend Gustavo
to ID.




This message was edited Saturday, Dec 15th 9:34 AM
Evert
Helsinki
Finland
(Zone 4b)


December 15, 2001
2:12 PM

Post #177522

Jianhua, Pitanga is same as Eugenia uniflora, and it does not have so big fruits... hmm. But good guess :) I think I have also that stamp in Gustavo's letter.
Evert
Helsinki
Finland
(Zone 4b)


December 15, 2001
2:15 PM

Post #177523

Or could it be that? hmm... does anyone grow surinam cherries? http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/fo51/eugenia.jpg
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

December 15, 2001
4:46 PM

Post #177559

Eugenia uniflora http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/surinam_cherry.html hope this is the end of the mystery of the pumpkin tree! thank u Jianhua & Evert.

crestedchik

crestedchik
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

December 16, 2001
12:13 AM

Post #177717

OK ,I just read about this thing,Sounds cool,Where can you buy seed for it?
Jianhua
Shangshui, Henan
China
(Zone 7b)

December 18, 2001
4:37 AM

Post #178889

Just thinking it's right time
for the starter to draw a conclusion.
Aimee
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 16, 2002
9:50 AM

Post #193792

Reading a little booklet about flowering trees, I remembered this thread and wondered if you ever learned the id. A tree in Hawaii, called sand-box tree of Hura crepitans, produces "fruits like tiny 3" pumpkins. Each contain 15 to 20 divisions with round flat seeds that explode when ripe." It is described as a large deciduous spiny tree with poisonous milky sap which could cause blindness. It has ovate, heart shaped leaves, a dark maroon flower. Any similarity?
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

January 27, 2002
2:23 AM

Post #199806

Aimee, The thing that had me stumped is that the branches had thorns exactly like a rose bush.I only received branches with no leaves and I don't know what the flower looks like on it. ??????????
Aimee
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 27, 2002
2:50 AM

Post #199832

Well, I typed this once and then went to the booklet to check something and it disappeared. I will try again.
In "Tropical Trees of Hawaii", a little 64 page booklet written in 1964 by Dorothy and Bob Hargreaves of Hawaii, is a photo of Hura crepitans L. The flower looks more like a dark maroon cone, suspended among the leaves by a long stem, or maybe petiole? I can't make out any thorns, but the photo is mostly a closeup of leaves and the one bloom. Maybe a search would yield more detail, and Hawaii might have something on a website. With no leaves, only stems, we have little to go on. I hope they put out leaves for you so you can better understand your plant. It appears to be a large tree in this booklet.
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

January 27, 2002
3:33 AM

Post #199861

here u go Aimée the url for hura crepitans http://leda.lycaeum.org/Images/Hura_crepitans.11759.shtml
http://www.nparks.gov.sg/plants/tre/pla-tre-hur.shtml
Aimee
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 27, 2002
3:41 AM

Post #199868

well, there is mention of "multiple thorns", so this might be the one! Thanks, MaVie!
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

January 27, 2002
4:03 AM

Post #199896

it's my pleasure Aimée ;)!
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

January 27, 2002
2:38 PM

Post #200068

Yippeeee Aimee!!!!!!!! I think this is the one.It sure sounds like it.The thorns is what had me puzzled as the other names I looked up didn't mention thorns.I think the mystery is solved. Thanks so much Aimee. MaVie, thanks for your help on this.
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

January 27, 2002
3:20 PM

Post #200101

u're welcome ;)! it is always a pleasure to give a helping hand. Whew, finally =)!!! it is team effort... hehehe. good luck!
poppysue
Westbrook, ME
(Zone 5a)


February 14, 2002
2:10 PM

Post #211076

Snow I know this is an old thread - but I came accross this in my Fragrant Path catalog today... Solanum integrifolium (Tree Pumkin)... it's a cousin of the eggplant. Maybe not the same thing you have but I thought of this thread when I read it. Here's a picture http://www.lhogarth.it/cd2001/cat/hi2.it/000064.htm
eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

February 14, 2002
2:48 PM

Post #211101

Sure looks like the same thing to me Sue!

"eyes"
REDROSE
New Iberia, LA
(Zone 9a)

February 14, 2002
2:54 PM

Post #211104

Finally now know what it was. I am sure snowhermit will be so happpy, hope she still have it.
snowhermit
Woodsville, NH
(Zone 4a)

February 16, 2002
4:45 AM

Post #212266

Yes yes yes poppysue. That's it!!!!!!!! The branches are the same and the fruit looks exactly like mine. Thank you sooooo much and also everyone else for their help on this unusual plant.
REDROSE
New Iberia, LA
(Zone 9a)

February 16, 2002
4:48 AM

Post #212267

=D glad to hear you are happy now...FINALLY
Aimee
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 16, 2002
12:16 PM

Post #212342

Wow, it was a long time coming, and took a circuitous route. What a find of a needle in a haystack. It astonishes me to witness such a search, with so little to start with and such diligence required to determine the correct name. I am humbled.

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