I do think that is IS Elizabeth, judging from the links. Thank you all so much, and I'm sorry I'm so late in responding to this. We have been trying to finish up our new house, pack up the old house and id all the plants we are going to move. It's been very hectic and I somehow forgot to mark this thread to 'watch', but tonight when I was wondering about it, I found it again. Thanks again for all your help.