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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 20, 2003
11:24 PM

Post #588525

Should we have an informal contest on the tallest castor bean ths year?
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
1:02 AM

Post #588625

After you tell me how tall yours is... LOL!! Just kidding. My poor wind dropped castors wouldn't have a chance. I've had to keep propping them up and tying them to stakes. Would love to see pictures of everyone elses though.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
1:43 AM

Post #588670

Me too,I have a 7footer right now,bet someone can top that.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
1:56 AM

Post #588683

One or two of mine might be close to that. Would have to get out the old tape measure or have Jim stand next to them and measure with a yard stick from the top of his head on up.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2003
2:08 AM

Post #588693

Root: I think my are stunted this year. They just seem like they are stuck. It's got to be the weather. I've had them top 15 ft. tall before.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
2:10 AM

Post #588698

It's still early in the year,lots of growing left.
DeepRoots
Willacoochee, GA
(Zone 8b)

July 21, 2003
2:38 AM

Post #588727

aint fair... I can plant mine in the ground around march 15th...

I've had one top 16ft with 3ft leaves one year grown in a pile of municiple compost.
Was the large leaf via JL Hudson seedsman
Mitjo
Lappeenranta
Finland
(Zone 3a)

July 21, 2003
7:35 AM

Post #588903

My Castor friend are so small:) No chance.
golddog
Western, PA
(Zone 6a)

July 21, 2003
11:09 AM

Post #588940

I am at 3'. So maybe next year. Next year it's fertilizer and water; fertilizer and water. I am going to for the record.:)
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2003
12:10 PM

Post #588976

Mine are 8-9 feet high, it's a jungle out there.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
2:35 PM

Post #589126

Looks like you have the lead here Weeds!can we see a pic?
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

July 21, 2003
2:46 PM

Post #589135

Our tallest is 5 1/2 feet. (But you should have to spot me a couple of feet for each full zone difference!)
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

July 21, 2003
2:56 PM

Post #589150

The fence is 7 feet tall

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TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

July 21, 2003
2:59 PM

Post #589155

Another View

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
3:15 PM

Post #589180

Wow Chef looking great,all of it!be sure to pick the buds off them,Kyle said that gets them going up,Thanks for showing us!HmmmmLooks like your in third.LOL!
eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

July 21, 2003
3:33 PM

Post #589198

One of mine is about 5 ft. now...Hey Doc, ya think these would work for the fall roundup??

"eyes"

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
4:41 PM

Post #589270

Sure Eyes if you mean bringing some to trade?is that what you mean?I got some beauty Impalas from Debby at our round up!
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

July 21, 2003
5:09 PM

Post #589297

If I pick the buds off, where will I get seeds for next year?
tiG
Newnan, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2003
5:16 PM

Post #589305

well, the darn deer got the tops out of all my Red Spires, I'm hoping they will still get tall before end of summer.
irish
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)

July 21, 2003
9:07 PM

Post #589456

mines about ten or 12 feet will go out and get a pic later

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2003
10:10 PM

Post #589505

Chef it does not takethem long to produce seeds,for me I let them bud the last month for seeds,I have so many different kinds I am afraid I will not get any true seeds,so I will only keep a few.
irish
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)

July 21, 2003
11:24 PM

Post #589558

Here is mine the latter is 8' so I guess I am closer to 10 feet

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Studley
Rochester, NH
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2003
11:48 PM

Post #589577

I am still in the 3 foot club. How terrible it is to live up North sometimes.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
12:04 AM

Post #589585

Looking great irish!
Studley I still have some sitting at 6inches,:0)
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2003
12:39 AM

Post #589631

Here is a pic, what a jungle out there since I can't get out and take care of it. I am afraid to see how it will look at the end of August.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
1:15 AM

Post #589675

Thats a dandy!I guess I better atleast show a leaf,LOL,will get a better pic tomorrow.

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Liz
North Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)

July 22, 2003
1:38 AM

Post #589690

NO FAIR! You didn't tell me I had to grow the big ones! I'm growing Carmencita, only go to 6 feet. How about the reddest? LOL
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2003
1:42 AM

Post #589695

Root: I like it with the cleome in front. Looks really good.

This message was edited Monday, Jul 21st 10:09 PM
I meant to say in the first edit, that the Impala's are to attain a height of 5 ft. Had a C.R.S. moment or maybe a blonde one.

This message was edited Monday, Jul 21st 10:17 PM
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2003
2:12 AM

Post #589723

Okay, went out and took a picture of the tallest one. It comes in at 6 ft. Was almost dark, had to lighten up the photo.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
2:14 AM

Post #589726

LOL Debby I love that cat!!!!!!!You sure have some big leaves going there!!!
Liz I'm game for the reddest red also!!!
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2003
2:16 AM

Post #589730

Those cleomes do look good with it.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
2:18 AM

Post #589731

Thanks Weeds,I'll have a ton of seeds if you want a hand full to cast.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
2:20 AM

Post #589733

Great pictures all of you. I have four planted in this bed. One dwarf green isn't visible, but the tallest is on the far side of the trellis/arbor and a couple of others in the foreground. Guess this is about as good as it will get here.

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2003
2:23 AM

Post #589741

Root, you bet! I love them.
Brugie, that is one nice looking garden...I think that is good enough.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2003
2:24 AM

Post #589742

How about the most purple one..Last year these were whoppers, but have them planted in a different spot. Plus we are very dry here. Maybe I better give them some grow juice.
Hey, Root: That cat has been up there for years, he won't come down. I think Ted nailed him to the roof.LOL..Oopps, now PETA will be after us.

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Liz
North Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)

July 22, 2003
2:27 AM

Post #589743

Yikes! Debby, I was about to ask if that cat was real? LOL
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2003
2:28 AM

Post #589744

oh how luscious that looks!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
2:30 AM

Post #589747

Shirley I can't believe your garden,we sure could have tilled you a bigger bed,EH?that castor looks great!

Liz how about Debbys red?Wowzer!
I might like a cat like that!
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
2:51 AM

Post #589772

Thanks...the bed is very full this year. Some things aren't even going to grow much because they can't see the light of day.

Debby, that is a beautiful red.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
8:57 PM

Post #590425

Two on west side of porch.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2003
8:58 PM

Post #590427

Ones up by flagpole.

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Liz
North Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)

July 23, 2003
1:18 AM

Post #590588

what is the plant to the right of the flag pole?
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 23, 2003
1:40 AM

Post #590604

Brugie
What is the gorgeous blue flowers in your photo. That is the bluest blue I have seen for a flower.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 23, 2003
1:41 AM

Post #590606

Which one Liz?
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 23, 2003
2:33 AM

Post #590665

Busybee, that is a camera problem. It is a tibouchina and is more purple than blue. I love the color it came out on the digi, but I don't think it will do that in real life. Sorry to disappoint you. I just don't know how to make the change to get it to come out right when I snap pictures.
Liz
North Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)

July 23, 2003
4:17 AM

Post #590744

Root, the one that looks like a double something.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 23, 2003
11:57 AM

Post #590852

Those are triple yellow Dats,that needed to be deadheaded,it did it last night,they are setting pods already.

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


July 24, 2003
7:09 AM

Post #591807

Poor me, not only have I never grown a castor bean but I have never seen one either! Is that where they get castor oil from? I sure like the bright red one that Debby has!

Debby, your garden is just charming. Love your little touches. Your basket is lovely.

Brugie, I am so impressed with your tropical bed. I would love to see more pictures. I am so impressed that just a few months ago you had snow there and no plants! Amazing the work you do!

Root you must grow everything in your yard. Does your wife share your passion?
dayflower
Gonzales, LA
(Zone 9a)

July 24, 2003
12:51 PM

Post #591905

OK, Ya'll, where do I get a start of these things, do I start them from seeds or have to get a little plant in the spring from someone? I'm trying to make a jungle down here in La. and I need some of those Castor's.
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2003
1:21 PM

Post #591937

I have some of the green/red stem plants and some seed also one with a redish color leaf but not like the one Debby posted. Let me know what other plants you are looking for.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 24, 2003
1:38 PM

Post #591950

Poor ME??????????Hold on here Kell!!I just got out of the Brug forum!Seeing pics of your Brugs,one with tendrils a foot across!!!!!!!!More blooms on one Brug then I have had in a year,LOL!!!!I will trade all my castors to just sit in your yard for a night!!!
I just sent my last seeds off,will make sure you get some this fall,Dw monica doesn't really comment on my plants,or sit and enjoy them with me,But I do have a continuos parade of people she brings over!and from her looking at DG at work 2 people have joined,so I guess I'm haveing some effect,I did have a small GT blooming she proudly took to work for a few days,LOL!

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


July 24, 2003
2:03 PM

Post #591968

LOL Root! well your DW seems to be more interested than my DH. He wishes mine would all die! LOL But he did not kill them when he had the chance so I am happy!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 24, 2003
2:14 PM

Post #591975

I saw that,Someone deserves lots of Hugs and Kisses!!!!!

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


July 24, 2003
2:18 PM

Post #591979

Go look at Susie's newest brugling that Tracey grew out. INCREDIBLE!
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2003
12:18 AM

Post #592436

The castor bean that I posted is a Purple Castor Bean. I will have seed for who wants it this fall. They are blooming now. If Mother Nature doesn't do anything funny, I will have seeds.LOL.
Shirley1md
Ellicott City, MD
(Zone 7a)

July 25, 2003
12:20 AM

Post #592438

I'll post a picture of mine tomorrow, but it's about 5 ft. tall now and still growing...

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2003
12:40 AM

Post #592459

Great Shirley,I love seeing them all,don't know why I like this plant so much,it has to have the worst blooms of any plant,sure makes up for it with leaves!
Eclipse
Norwalk, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2003
2:56 AM

Post #592686

These aren't this year..was a few years back.But if you keep the flowers off them..they will get huge ..these were just under 17 feet.My friend is just under 6 ft tall.Several types.

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crestedchik

crestedchik
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2003
3:02 AM

Post #592695

If you cut the seeds off they get taller...?????

How do you get up there to cut them off?????LOL

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2003
3:12 AM

Post #592703

Climb the plant!LOL!This picture still amazes me Kyle!
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2003
3:57 AM

Post #592750

Hmmm, I can't reach mine either!
Carena
Woodburn, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2003
5:21 AM

Post #592810

Debby, I'll be in line this fall for seeds, I love the purple leaves!
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2003
1:09 PM

Post #592960

Debby, I would love some seeds too!
notmartha
Bay City, MI
(Zone 6a)

July 25, 2003
1:15 PM

Post #592963

mine are 2ft-i got a late late start! ;)
Mitjo
Lappeenranta
Finland
(Zone 3a)

July 25, 2003
2:57 PM

Post #593028

Eclipse, That's the greatest Castor bean which I have ever seen! It's awesome!
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2003
8:19 PM

Post #593274

Now don't laugh. This is a dwarf green that I believe is to grow to three foot. I don't think it is going to make it. :-) Is this what happens when you don't remove the flower? Actually, the other two are doing fine. I just don't have enough water to keep this bed moist. Have decided to let it go. We are bone dry here.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2003
9:42 PM

Post #593324

Holy smokes Girl!!!!you got Monster Pods!!!!!!
eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

July 25, 2003
10:32 PM

Post #593340

Debby put me in line for some of those seeds too...love that color!!!

"eyes"

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2003
11:18 PM

Post #593369

Is that a Rooty toot special there Eyes?
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2003
11:33 PM

Post #593389

Doc, you should see the ones on the big plants. I'll have lots of seed. Now, if I could only remember the names of them all. I think the only ones with seed now are the Dwarf Green and Red Spire.
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2003
5:13 AM

Post #593646

They have names?
tiG
Newnan, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2003
7:28 AM

Post #593691

Shirley, my Dwarf Greens are 5' tall, I've kept the flowers off of them.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 26, 2003
1:51 PM

Post #593853

Yes weeds,One on the right is Zanzibariensis,and the one one the left is Comminus,I also have Thai,red spire and Impala from Debby.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 26, 2003
2:03 PM

Post #593862

This is a cross of the two from last year,note the pinkish trunk,Zan should have no red in it,but the leaves have the form of Zan

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gone2seed
Milton, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2003
2:40 PM

Post #593887

Here is a Red Spire in my jungle.It's about 7 feet tall.Guess I had better throw some fertilizer on it.

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eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

July 26, 2003
2:41 PM

Post #593888

Yep, a Rooty Toot Special...LOL, now ya got that stuck in my brain!!!

"eyes"

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 26, 2003
3:18 PM

Post #593914

LOL!Eyes!
Gone2seed,that is a dandy,be sure to keep some seeds,maybe we can trade this fall?
Bward
Hattiesburg, MS
(Zone 8a)

July 27, 2003
12:00 AM

Post #594302

Brugie, I too am amazed at all the blooms you have with such a late summer. Very pretty.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

July 27, 2003
1:15 AM

Post #594357

Thanks Barb. I'm still waiting on my favorites to bloom though. The brugs are very late for me. Some are just now setting tiny buds, so I have to be happy with what I have, even if they are castor bean blooms. LOL!!
nathalyn
Knoxville, TN
(Zone 7a)

July 30, 2003
2:27 PM

Post #597927

Here are mine as of last week. I think they are pretty large considering they don't receive full sun, and they still have plenty of growing time. Nat

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2003
4:20 PM

Post #598056

Wow!what a healthy looking plant!!!So nice to see you!great picture,looks like you may have a possible leader there!
nathalyn
Knoxville, TN
(Zone 7a)

July 30, 2003
4:37 PM

Post #598073

Thanks Rootdoc, It's actually 3 castor beans - - one really big one and two medium. But together, they have a nice shape. They are planted in the spot that used to be our area to burn brush and leaves. I suspect all that ash has enriched that old hard clay into something pretty good.
I also have 2 brugs in back of the castors and they are doing great also.

When I took this picture, I laughted out loud - - - as I look like one of those paper people next to my castor beans. But this is really me, promise...LOL

DH said he was going to trim some branches off the maple tree to keep the castors from growing into the tree.

Now, where is my miracle grow????? Nat

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2003
4:51 PM

Post #598095

ROFL!!!!Paperpeople!!!I think it a great picture!!!!
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2003
11:03 PM

Post #598405

nat, that is a beautiful plant...and I agree, you look like a paper person! How funny.
Shirley1md
Ellicott City, MD
(Zone 7a)

July 31, 2003
3:42 AM

Post #598762

Mine is a mere child compared to some of those humongous Castor Bean Plants!

Don't laugh!

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

July 31, 2003
3:46 AM

Post #598767

Not Laughing, that is the kind I have, do you know the name?
Shirley1md
Ellicott City, MD
(Zone 7a)

July 31, 2003
4:08 AM

Post #598781

Thanks weeds, at least I'm in good company! I'm not sure of the name because jody had given it to me in a trade. I will check with her and let you know.
eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

July 31, 2003
8:39 PM

Post #599389

Rooty Toot Special as of this morning...stretching to 7 Ft!!

"eyes"

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eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

July 31, 2003
8:41 PM

Post #599391

another angle...

"eyes"

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eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

July 31, 2003
8:43 PM

Post #599392

LOL...they almost look like I'm growing something else...am I hallucinating????

"eyes"

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2003
8:50 PM

Post #599399

LOL! Eyes looking good!!!
a_leon51
Tucson, AZ
(Zone 9b)

July 31, 2003
9:00 PM

Post #599409

O.K. guys you got me hooked I love these plants. I need to get my hands on some Seeds, but will they be o.k. in the southwest?
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 31, 2003
9:38 PM

Post #599436

a_leon51, I still have some seed but I am not sure of the name of them.
a_leon51
Tucson, AZ
(Zone 9b)

July 31, 2003
9:50 PM

Post #599452

Busybee, are they tall or 6ft. variety? Do you know if they will take the summer heat?
eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

August 1, 2003
12:18 AM

Post #599603

Leon, if'n they'll take my 105F...they'll work where you are!! BYW...where in 9B are you?

"eyes"
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 1, 2003
2:14 AM

Post #599734

Yes they sure will. I think they like the heat.They are tall.
a_leon51
Tucson, AZ
(Zone 9b)

August 1, 2003
5:52 PM

Post #600496

busybee-I would love to get some seeds from you. Not much to trade but I'll e-mail and set something up.
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 2, 2003
9:15 PM

Post #601647

mine is still quite small for this year. The one in the picture was 2 years ago...it had been planted in late July and it was 12 foot tall in September when I decided to chop it down. It had produced over 3000 seeds...I did get the 0's right on that one...lol. That's actually how I started gardening. I traded most of all of those 3000 seeds for other stuff and began to grow flowers :o)

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 2, 2003
10:12 PM

Post #601711

Thats one healthy Monster there!I sure have enjoyed seeing everyones castors!!This has been a fun thread!

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


August 3, 2003
6:43 AM

Post #602210

What I want to know is what do the flowers look like or are you all growing them for their size? Not to sound too dumb, but do you have to remove them every year? They would take up my green garbage allotment for 2 weeks!
irish
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)

August 3, 2003
1:09 PM

Post #602366

I just cut my flowers off or I would post a pic for you kell maybe next time it blooms
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 3, 2003
2:00 PM

Post #602417

Kell, the flowers don't look like much and are small compared to the plant. They are annuals here. I don't know how long they would live for you. Sounds like you need to start a compost pile. You could get rid of lots of green garbage and then re-use it.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2003
3:19 PM

Post #602521

Kell: This is my purple castor bean just starting to bloom. The blooms are insignificent. We grow them for the tropical look they give our garden. Some people grow them to deter moles, rabbits, etc. Which I do think they do deter. The Purple is by far my favorite.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 3, 2003
4:38 PM

Post #602590

Here is one Kell.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 3, 2003
6:04 PM

Post #602730

This is my big one so far,I'm 6ft.

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Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


August 4, 2003
6:08 AM

Post #603664

Thanks Irish for the thought. So do you cut the flowers off to prolong the growth period?

LOL Root! You must be a constant source of amusement for your neighbors!

I just love the red one Debby, and the red veined one that Root has is neat also.

I even bought a black compost bin Brugie a few years ago, then the directions said I needed to layer it with hay, so I have been looking for hay for 4 years.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 4, 2003
10:37 AM

Post #603723

Kell,I'm a bad influence,will take a couple pics later today.Sammy on one side of me,I have him hopelessly hooked on Palms,he has his first buds on a Brug,and has EEs,across the road Vince is into Dats,castors cannas and EEs,LOL!!!

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


August 4, 2003
2:44 PM

Post #603922

Your block will be the talk of the neighborhood!
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 4, 2003
3:55 PM

Post #603980

July 21st posted my castors
Here they are 9 days later ~ 7'8" on the tallest.
That is an average of 3 inches of growth per day. If we continue to have a hot humid August, I figure they should reach 15 feet by August 31st. At that rate, they'll never catch Root but we will sure enjoy them! Amazing how this is one of the only things I planted years ago that would grow from seed so easy. And more amazing at the number of Iowans that come to my yard and inquire, " What is that?!".
Too funny!

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 4, 2003
4:19 PM

Post #604003

Kell, you don't need hay. Some grass clipping, a little soil, kitchen scraps, no bones or milk products, and some granular fertilizer to make it heat up will get it going. Small twigs, leaves from your plants, etc. Just layer it with twigs on the bottom so air can circulate. Put everything in layers, brown and green. Turn it every so often and make sure it doesn't dry out, but don't keep it soaking wet. It should make some compost for you. I'm sure someone can tell you a better way to do it. I'm not making compost this year. Good thing. It has been too dry and I'd never be able to keep up with it.
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 4, 2003
4:34 PM

Post #604025

Just saw this morning on HGTV

Lasagna Composting:
1st layer: grass clippings
2nd layer: leaves
3rd layer: Mushroom Compost (available at Home Depot)
4th layer: Kitchen scraps (banana peel, veggies, egg shells, coffee grounds)
5th layer: All Purpose granular fertilizer
6th layer: garden soil
7th layer: bark mulch
8th layer: cayenne pepper (to keep varmits from digging for food)

Leave 3 months or over winter; you can repeat this layering process as many times as you wish.

Brugie, do you think this would work for those of us who do not have composters?
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 5, 2003
12:48 AM

Post #604448

It will work if you have the time for it to sit.
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 5, 2003
1:11 AM

Post #604471

Do you think it would break down over an Iowa Fall, Winter, Spring if we had enough precipitation? Seems like water would help.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 5, 2003
3:03 AM

Post #604634

Let's just say that it is supposed to. IowaGal has done this some, she could probably tell you more about it.

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


August 5, 2003
7:06 AM

Post #604948

I have nothing brown or any grass clippings. Tons of green plant clippings and weeds. Will that work with fertilizer and dirt layered in? Oh I have kitchen food. but won't that attact flies and smell?
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 5, 2003
1:09 PM

Post #605103

Kell,
The grass clippings add the "heat"; I think it has to be something "green"; above said no dairy or meat; but all veggies and I suppose fruit; these things are down deep enough with all layered on top I don't think so. Doesn't bark mulch detract insects?

Kell, what is your zone?

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


August 5, 2003
7:21 PM

Post #605451

9B TLC
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 6, 2003
2:57 AM

Post #605913

Oh, kell,
you are way above me!
playsndirt
city?? lol sticks, AR
(Zone 7a)

August 6, 2003
3:47 AM

Post #605973

ok Ill just beg from forum to forum tonight...the purple colored castor beans--who will have pity on my next years garden and send me a few---Ill trade my mom's only cow and with it our only hope of survival?

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


August 6, 2003
7:30 AM

Post #606159

Yes TLC, most people think that.





LOL
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 6, 2003
1:20 PM

Post #606313

Well, Kell . . .
your state? or is that a secret?
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 6, 2003
2:21 PM

Post #606358

I couldn't get the purple one from Debby, to grow. It is still very short. I should have seeds from the red spire though.

I just happened to think...my castors are close together and they may have cross pollinated, so if I have seeds, and you get any of them, you may have a surprise on your hands. LOL!!

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Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

August 6, 2003
3:40 PM

Post #606463

Brugie: That is very strange, my purple castor is almost 7 ft. tall now. They were out of the same lot of seeds, planted the same day and same way. Start cursing at it.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 6, 2003
6:36 PM

Post #606629

I threatened it with the weed eater a couple of days ago. I'm going to see what I can do to help it out. I like the color of the leaves. Of course, you saw that pathetic little green one I grew. May be the soil on that side of the house.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

August 6, 2003
7:26 PM

Post #606677

Brugie: Could be they don't like the soil. I have two datura's that I planted in the same spot as last year and they don't like where they are, didn't do well there either year. So I will have to remember not to plant any datura in that bed.
nathalyn
Knoxville, TN
(Zone 7a)

August 7, 2003
1:18 PM

Post #607441

Update: I measured mine last night and they came in at 12 feet, 4 inches! Nat
christmascactus

August 7, 2003
5:49 PM

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Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

August 8, 2003
1:01 AM

Post #608023

CC: Remind me in the fall.
eyesoftexas
Toadsuck, TX
(Zone 7a)

August 8, 2003
4:44 PM

Post #608681

Me too, Debby...I just gotta have some purple too!
Bodaman...you created a monster!!!

"eyes"
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

August 9, 2003
12:31 AM

Post #609009

Eyes: I started a list for the purple castor beans and you are on it along with CC. and Playsndirt.
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 9, 2003
12:57 AM

Post #609044

Oh me too, please????
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 9, 2003
1:46 AM

Post #609105

Me too debby, Please.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 9, 2003
3:19 PM

Post #609635

Pruning flowers standing on a chair,gonna have to get a ladder next time!

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 9, 2003
3:20 PM

Post #609638

Vince across the road.

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 9, 2003
5:04 PM

Post #609714

I didn't prune my flowers, can't get to them, they are tall enough anyway.
Looks like you have the whole neighborhood into plants!

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


August 10, 2003
5:36 AM

Post #610399

LOL Root! Vince looks like he is not so sure about this plant thing! LOL
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2003
2:00 PM

Post #610577

Can I post the one with "the most potential" or maybe we can call it a "Bonzai Castor" This one got left behind when I planted the others, which are 4 feet tall or so (I got a very late start). This one is not much larger than a soda can.

Question here - would it be possible to put it in a larger pot and keep it as an indoor plant until next year or should I give the little guy a chance and move him out with the big boys?

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2003
2:34 PM

Post #610606

In the picture above,where I am pruning blooms.the one one the right was kept in a pot all winter under lights,it looked exactly like yours,only a couple months ago,I thought it would never take off,so I guess it can be done.
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2003
2:41 PM

Post #610613

Another question - *I never lack for questions* - Could some of my big ones be transplanted inside for the winter or would it not be worth the effort. I do have a HUGE heated basement, temp stays about 60 year round - would I have a chance at keeping any of them alive to get have something next year earlier in the season. Our winter goes SOOO late, that few things can be planted outside before May, so May and early June are not especially exciting around here.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2003
4:58 PM

Post #610729

I wouldn't!They get so big from seed,all you should have to do is start a few weeks early.
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2003
5:06 PM

Post #610738

Sounds good, I'll take your advice - that makes for one less dependent over the winter. I did get a very late start with these, planted the seeds in mid-May.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2003
5:08 PM

Post #610743

We will all have to swap seeds at the end of season,I have loved this thread!
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2003
8:06 PM

Post #610937

Root - wonderful idea. I do have three kinds, hopefully they'll produce some seeds. I'd really like to try some more next year.
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 10, 2003
8:15 PM

Post #610944

I don't know what kind mine are but would love to trade.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2003
2:12 AM

Post #611375

Here is a picture of Red Spire. In the background there are a couple of other kinds. It has been years since I've grown castors and I'd forgotten how pretty and tropical they look.

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 11, 2003
11:13 AM

Post #611643

That is beautiful brugie! I love your whole yard. Could you post more pics?
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 11, 2003
1:07 PM

Post #611721

Brugie, What is the blue flowers to the left of the red castor beans? I guess you know blue is my favorite color.
nathalyn
Knoxville, TN
(Zone 7a)

August 11, 2003
2:18 PM

Post #611784

Here's an updated picture of mine. I cannot believe how much they have grown in just 10 days. Not too bad for a first time grower! Nat

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2003
2:29 PM

Post #611791

BusyBee, actually those flowers are more deep in color and a little bit more purple looking. It is the Jackmanni clematis. Here is a blue one that I love. The Bluebird Rose of Sharon. I have one at each end of the big bed. As soon as our ground gets a good rain, I can dig some seedlings. I know that first on my list is Azalea and then two others after that. If there are plenty and I think there are, you are welcome to some.

Weeds, I hate to mess up the thread, but I'll add one more picture. I don't think Bob will be too upset.

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2003
2:38 PM

Post #611798

One more picture. My yard is more like a jungle this year. I wanted a tropical look and I sure have it. Everything grew much bigger than I thought it would and some things got crowded out. This picture is part of a bed that is actually the front. The picture above with the Red Spire is the back side of this bed. It is about 40 ft. long and six foot deep. Was going to mention that I have Dwarf Green, Red Spire, Royal Thai, and a purple castor bean. Royal Thai being my favorite. Huge leaves on it compared to the others.

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busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 11, 2003
4:46 PM

Post #611922

Thanks Brugie, That is very kind of you. Just let me know when to send postage or whatever you want.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

August 11, 2003
5:50 PM

Post #611967

Brugie: Can you please post a pic. of Royal Thai, I have never seen that one. Thanks.
Carena
Woodburn, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 11, 2003
8:31 PM

Post #612099

Brugie, where did you get your seeds? I've been looking around a little bit and haven't found anyone that has a good variety of them
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 12, 2003
2:53 AM

Post #612410

That's it in the middle top of the picture Deb. I'm having computer problems so I hope I can get this posted for you.

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2003
11:35 PM

Post #621483

I just took a measurement,I'm at 12 ft. even.
Nat.I let my neighbor Sam look at this thread and he said you are in the lead!

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TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 20, 2003
1:53 PM

Post #622069

Just behind you Root at 11 1/2 feet; It's getting hard to measure them!
MOLLYBEE
Villa Rica, GA
(Zone 7a)

August 21, 2003
12:40 PM

Post #623013

Thanks for the invite Root! I just went out this a/m and measured my castor beans.
Although I couldn't hold the tape measure, and the camera. They measured 11'tall!

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 21, 2003
12:59 PM

Post #623020

Molly, your picture is very pretty. Nice and tropical looking.
MOLLYBEE
Villa Rica, GA
(Zone 7a)

August 21, 2003
1:33 PM

Post #623064

Thanks!
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 21, 2003
2:25 PM

Post #623115

I think mine are of a dwarf variety...RTOFL
they're just not taking off real fast this year, they're only about I would guess, close to 6 feet
can't compete with all of you :(

molly, that pic makes you think of a tropical rain forest for sure :)
MOLLYBEE
Villa Rica, GA
(Zone 7a)

August 21, 2003
2:35 PM

Post #623130

Hee heee Thats good to hear, since I was shooting for the Jungle look!
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 21, 2003
2:55 PM

Post #623151

Beautiful pic, Mollybee

Here are mine at 11 1/2 ft.

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 21, 2003
5:28 PM

Post #623308

I'd like a picture of Bruce when he tries to get them out of the ground this fall. LOL!!
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 21, 2003
6:31 PM

Post #623356

Will have to break that to him . . . gently!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 21, 2003
10:20 PM

Post #623577

LOL!Chef!!!!He odesn't know what he is in for!They look great!I can not believe how they came on for you!!!Amazing!
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
12:18 AM

Post #623678

Sooooooooooo, how does one dig them out?
MOLLYBEE
Villa Rica, GA
(Zone 7a)

August 22, 2003
12:26 AM

Post #623690

Very carefullllly! Sorry I couldn't resist! Although the roots do go to china!!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
12:32 AM

Post #623700






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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
1:53 AM

Post #623798

My Red.Carmincitra(Sp?)

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
2:02 AM

Post #623812

Okay...great pictures you guys and I'm not even in the running. Now, I have a stupid question. I've never harvested the seeds before and tonight I picked some dried ones. How the heck do you get the seed out of the pod sections. Those things are like armor.
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 22, 2003
2:09 AM

Post #623819

Brugie, if you just seperate the four seed sections, put them in a brown paper bag in a dry place, they will pop on their own :)

I'm way behind everyone, here's mine sofar

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
2:13 AM

Post #623824

LOL!!!I let some sit in a shoe box over winter,they would pop from time to time and shoot a seed across the floor,good thing I don't have castors growing out of dustbunnies!Let them dry,I put them dry in a shoe box,stood and ran my foot over them in a tennis shoe.it will get them out of the husk!
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 22, 2003
2:18 AM

Post #623830

I actually put them on a sheet one year on the front porch where my dogs couldn't get to them. Covered the sheet with aluminum foil...those things popped all over the place and then I just picked them up. First year I grew them I harvested 3000 seeds. That was when I began to garden...LOL
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
2:18 AM

Post #623831

Thanks. I thought I was going to have to get a chisel and hammer out and beat the husk off of them.
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 22, 2003
2:20 AM

Post #623833

we posted at the same time Brugie, have another suggestion for ya above your post
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 22, 2003
2:25 AM

Post #623838

Since I have never collected seeds, does anyone have pics of what you are talking about? I am a visual learner and need help!
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 22, 2003
2:28 AM

Post #623842

here's the actual seeds

http://www.sewamart.com/products/farmproducts/castor_seed.htm

the round ball looking soft spiney things are the seed pods

http://www.pwbelg.clara.net/seeds/Seedpics/Ricinis_communis2.jpg

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 22, 2003
2:31 AM

Post #623845

Thanks flowox. Mine seem to be just popping out when I pick them. Will have to go look again.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
2:32 AM

Post #623846

Thanks Susan. I'm not going to harvest all of them, just enough to share a few and plant a few next year. After I try digging them out of the ground, I may even change my mind about planting them again. A couple of them would make a good bonfire for a couple of hours.
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 22, 2003
2:39 AM

Post #623849

Brugie, no need to dig them out of the ground, just cut them down and the weather will take care of the rest
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
3:05 AM

Post #623863

I want to till my bed this fall and put a cover crop on it, so I have to get the roots out. I've had brugs that didn't decay away and these things are much, much, bigger than brugs. Almost scary when I look at the size of the trunks.
flowox
Newark, OH
(Zone 5a)

August 22, 2003
3:14 AM

Post #623871

but they don't root like the brugs :)
shouldn't bee too hard to get them out of the ground and they don't come back from the roots anyway but I know what you mean. Good luck with your cover crop next year!!!
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 22, 2003
10:42 AM

Post #624033

Mine don't look anything like yours.

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
10:49 AM

Post #624036

They will Chef,the red flower will wilt after it is pollenated,then the seed swells.
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 22, 2003
10:52 AM

Post #624037

Thanks Root,
This morning ~ tried to email you and it bounced.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 22, 2003
11:06 PM

Post #624595

TLC,just hit you back.
datdog
Medford, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 26, 2003
11:58 PM

Post #628496

Mine may not be the tallest, but I know for a fact that mine is the strongest! My concrete castor bean leaf cast-

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datdog
Medford, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 27, 2003
12:00 AM

Post #628498

Here is the 'model' plant in my front bed!

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 27, 2003
12:42 AM

Post #628563

Kristi,I have to learn how to do that!!Nice color on yours,I thought your first pic was a dry leaf!LOL!Do you have a thread showing how to make the concrete ones?

Sue_WA

Sue_WA
Seattle, WA
(Zone 8a)

August 27, 2003
1:04 AM

Post #628590

That is beautiful, Datdog! How did you achieve that color, did you color the concrete or paint?
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 27, 2003
2:07 AM

Post #628645

Whew, that leaf is beautiful.
MOLLYBEE
Villa Rica, GA
(Zone 7a)

August 27, 2003
3:07 AM

Post #628687

hmmmm looks like I need to try this on one of my castor bean leaves too. I also have a HUGE elephant ear leaf that would make a good one.

I wanna know more!!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 27, 2003
10:31 AM

Post #628908

Now that you mention it Mollybee,I have a EE that would make a nice patio!
datdog
Medford, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 27, 2003
11:46 AM

Post #628924

Thanks! Here you go guys! I use 1 part portland cement to 3 parts sand PLAY sand. I add a concrete fortifier and a concrete stain. The color I used for the above leaf was buff. You add enough water to make the mix wet, but not gooey. You don't want it to slide off your leaf.
Place the wet mix on top of your leaf to a thickness of 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick. Cover with some plastic wrap and let sit for 24 hours. I cheat and turn them over at about 12 hours- but be warned, they will sometimes break.

The above castor bean was the hardest leaf I've done. All the serration and detail in the leaf was a 'B' to cast and get it to come our right. Took a lot of work to get it to look right after I took the leaf off. The best leaves to use are those with lots of veins and detail. I love the serrated leaves, but that is a ton of work to get them to keep their character when they are unmolded. Try using a hosta leaf. That seems to be the easiest. The EE ear leaves turn out good, but don't have as much detail/veining. So it looks kind of smooth to me. Have fun, practice makes perfect. Let me know if you have any more questions.
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

August 27, 2003
4:05 PM

Post #629170

Garden Gate magazine will be coming out with an article on these in the future. We saw several in different colors when we visited their test gardens last Friday.

Thank you for the info ~ would like to try this; just don't what to do with it after it is finished! Theirs were cupped slightly like for a birdbath. But they had them just laying around . . kinda like garden art.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 27, 2003
5:37 PM

Post #629269

Here is my Royal Thai castor. It has some huge leaves. Kinda like Doc says...big enough to be a patio. Just took this picture a day or two ago. It sure won't win the tallest castor bean prize, but it is definitely a pretty one and doesn't seem to go to seed as readily.

The early worm gets eaten by the bird, so sleep late. (Unknown Quote)

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Badseed
Hillsboro, OH
(Zone 6a)

August 27, 2003
8:11 PM

Post #629423

Hey Shirley, if you are not completely overtaken with requests, will you save me a few of those?
ClaytonDT
Waco, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 27, 2003
8:12 PM

Post #629428

Hi Rootdoctor and everybody else, I have a castor been plant right now that is between thirteen and one half to fourteen foot tall. I don't have a picture yet but I will be taken one soon. Root Doctor my malanga is also doing well.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 28, 2003
12:00 AM

Post #629602

Fantastic!Glad to hear from you ClaytonDT!!!You could be leading at that Height!
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

August 28, 2003
1:40 AM

Post #629746

Sure Michele. That is if the seeds have time to mature. The seed head has just formed, waaaaaaay up there at the top. I would think that another month or so would be enough time. I picked seed from the Red Spire, Green Spire, and Dwarf Green tonight. Remind me in October, okay?
nathalyn
Knoxville, TN
(Zone 7a)

August 28, 2003
2:32 PM

Post #630185

Oh no, now the competition is picking up. I measured mine about three nights ago and they came in at 13 ft. 9 in. BTW, it's pretty difficult to measure them when they get taller than 12 ft! Nat
ecobioangie
Mableton, GA
(Zone 7b)

August 28, 2003
5:32 PM

Post #630334

For the EE cast, couldn't you use the back of the leaf to get more detail?
datdog
Medford, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 28, 2003
8:36 PM

Post #630504

Ecobioangie- yes, you would use the back. The EE just doesn't have very much detail in the the leaf. It has the large veins, but not the smaller ones. Don't get me wrong, it does work and looks nice. I just like more detail.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 28, 2003
11:31 PM

Post #630691

I am thinking about pulling the flagpole down and putting some measurement marks on it.it is hard to get a tape to stand that tall,I am trying to figure out how I am going to pull these seed pods off.
It is raining here,YEAH!!!!!I love being out barefoot in the grass,so sorry this picture is so dark.

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 28, 2003
11:47 PM

Post #630718

Looks good there! A tropical paradise in the middle of the U.S.
datdog
Medford, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 29, 2003
12:21 AM

Post #630758

Loving that picture Root!
ClaytonDT
Waco, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 30, 2003
2:05 AM

Post #631856

Hi Root, I just remeasured my castor bean plant. I had to straighten it up because it is leaning to get out from under the tree limbs.I then measure the castor bean when it was straight, its total height is around 15 3/4 feet tall. How I measure it was with a 16 1/2 foot piece of conduit marked every foot with a black mark and a red mark every half foot. I held it up next to it, while my mother looked to see where it reached on the conduit.
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 30, 2003
2:08 AM

Post #631858

Heck Clayton, I was gonna measure mine but I don't think I should even bother...but I will anyway. What you feeding that thing?
ClaytonDT
Waco, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 30, 2003
2:20 AM

Post #631872

Hi Weeds, I haven't feed it at all. All I did was watering it now and then. This was the first year have have ever grown a castor bean and wasn't for sure how to take care of it. Plus I didn't have alot of time for gardening this year because I was helping my mother take care of her husband my step father that passed away with cancer this month.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 31, 2003
4:41 PM

Post #633359

Rain is letting up here,looks like we will have to do some staking.

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 31, 2003
4:42 PM

Post #633361

Here is Vince's

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 31, 2003
4:43 PM

Post #633364

My Driveway go it hard.

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

August 31, 2003
5:09 PM

Post #633378

Wow, look at those big, healthy plants!
Brinda
Yukon, OK
(Zone 7b)

September 1, 2003
8:58 PM

Post #634545

Hi everyone,

I'm a newbie to DG, as of yesterday (registered with PlantsDatabase a few months back)!! We've had rain here for 3 days so I have had plenty of time to read 'every' thread on here. I keep coming back to this one and have some questions.

We've been gardening for about 7 years or so and have really gotten interested in anything tropical looking in the past few years. We have many flowers, EE's, Daturas and Brugs (just starting with cuttings), along with a banana and a white BOP. I've been wondering about Castor Beans for awhile now and would like some information about the varieties available. I'm sure there are dwarfs too. I'm really interested in the red or purple ones. We are in OKC in z7, will any of them be hardy here? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Something else...I just recieved some Castor Beans in a couple of seed trades. Is there anyway to tell what 'kind' they are without planting them? Do different varieties have different colored beans? (Is that a stupid question?)

Thanks for the help & info in advance...Brinda :)

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 1, 2003
10:57 PM

Post #634655

Welcome Brinda!!Hang around us and you will end up with tons of stuff!
Yes castor seeds do look different,not much!I noticed the Thai.were small dark,Zins are large light brown,Comminus are darker brown and smaller in size.it is hard to look at a seed and tell what it is,for me anyway.
Got you confussed?I am,and I typed it,LOL!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 1, 2003
11:05 PM

Post #634658

Cleaning out the drive,sure hated losing this one.

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 1, 2003
11:06 PM

Post #634659

Seeds do not look mature yet,guess my harvest will be smaller then I wanted.

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 1, 2003
11:07 PM

Post #634661

Very white,but firm.

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Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 1, 2003
11:14 PM

Post #634667

Root: So sorry for your loss. I was hoping that you could save them. My harvast will be smaller because of our drought. I have harvasted a few of the tall purples. This has not been a very good growing season. Can always hope next year is bigger and better. That's what keeps us gardeners going.LOL.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 1, 2003
11:16 PM

Post #634668

I can save a few plants,this big one snapped low,did you get a good rain?
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 1, 2003
11:36 PM

Post #634691

We got about 5/8 of an inch of rain. Not nearly enough. But it was great to get that. Today was a lovely sunny day, temps are much milder. Hope you can dry up abit before anymore rain. I am watching my yellow and purple datura seedpods and the castorbean pods to catch every seed I can. Have you noticed the coloring of the Impala seedpods. I just noticed them tonight. Very pretty. Should go take a pic. They did grow taller than what the package said. I have some Impala's 7 ft. tall. I think they were only to be 5 ft. tall at the most. My red spire from Kyle is about 7 ft. tall, too. They must like where they are growing.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 1, 2003
11:49 PM

Post #634701

I just looked,no pods on Impala.:0(
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 2, 2003
1:07 AM

Post #634810

Root: I planted three Impala's. Will have plenty of seed if all goes well. They all have good size seed heads. Here is one of the seed heads.

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 2, 2003
1:27 AM

Post #634844

Nice one Debby,put me down for one or two of those seeds,Thx!
ClaytonDT
Waco, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 2, 2003
1:44 AM

Post #634883

Hi Debby, I would like some seeds too, if you have enough after you are able to harvest them
Brinda
Yukon, OK
(Zone 7b)

September 2, 2003
2:09 AM

Post #634925

Hi again everyone...

Debby posted a pic of "the most purple one"...what kind is that? They are beautiful. How tall do they get? And is there any kind that will be hardy in OKC z7? Or should I plan to put it in a pot and overwinter it? Or just let it die and plant more the next year?

And yes, Root...you did confuse me. LOL I've got alot of learning to do. Plantdatabase only shows 2 different castor beans. Oh well...google, right?

Brinda :)
christmascactus

September 2, 2003
3:55 AM

Post #635071



This message was edited Thursday, Sep 4th 2:50 AM
Studley
Rochester, NH
(Zone 5a)

September 2, 2003
11:23 PM

Post #635805

I have been watching this thread with envy since it started. My castor bean is by no means a contender but I had to post a pic. It is probably about 7 feet now. I'll post again once it grows some more.

OOPS!!! Wrong pic. See below.

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Studley
Rochester, NH
(Zone 5a)

September 2, 2003
11:26 PM

Post #635810

Here's my castor bean

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 2, 2003
11:28 PM

Post #635812

Wow,Does that go great with Papaya,Nice touch,shoot after my storm you may have me whooped.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 2, 2003
11:39 PM

Post #635833

I do have a baby showing some potential,after I gave away as many seeds as I could,I broadcast the rest,this little guy is coming on,only 2 mos old.

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 2, 2003
11:40 PM

Post #635835

It shows good leaf size.

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Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 3, 2003
12:26 AM

Post #635877

Studley: Very nice Red Castor you have growing there. They don't get too tall. It looks like it is as tall as they get. They are lovely though.
Root: Georgeous photo as usual. Will have to try nana's with them next year. We get so much wind here on top of this hill, don't know if nana could stand up to it.

Brinda: I don't know the name of the Purple. Last year they got really tall, like 10 ft. I received the seed in a trade and the lady said they were dwarf castor beans that would grow to be about 2 ft. tall. I was very surprised when they reached 10 ft. plus. This year they are about 8 ft. tall because of our drought.

Everyone that wants seeds I will post when they are ready.
Should be within the next month when they mature.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 5, 2003
12:33 AM

Post #638097

A Mandavilla from Cala decided to bloom.You have to look hard,it's hiding behind the Castor

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llilyfan
South Central, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 5, 2003
1:12 PM

Post #638576

rootdoctor said I should post my photo here as well as in the forum I orginally posted it to.

Even though it is hard to see there are cannas and elephant ear hiding in there along with some totally buried crocosmia and glads

llilyfan

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Brinda
Yukon, OK
(Zone 7b)

September 5, 2003
1:15 PM

Post #638578

Root, I just love your mandevilla. I think they are such a sweet little vine and the smell is so nice. Very nice pic. OK, tell me what that Castor is? I really like it. And how tall will it normally get?

Debby...Oh, can't wait til you post for seeds. The purple you posted is fabulous.
ClaytonDT
Waco, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 5, 2003
10:37 PM

Post #638979

Hi Root, here is a picture of my castor bean plant. It is not the best looking and hasn't flowered or seed out yet. It is now a little over sixteen feet tall.

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 5, 2003
11:36 PM

Post #639028

Brinda,this is Impala with the Madavilla,I got it from Debby.;0)
Lilyfan,Thanks,I love the color of yours!!!!Glad you share here!
Clayton unless someone else brings one bigger,I think 16 ft is a leader!WoWser!!!!!!!!!

weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

September 6, 2003
2:29 AM

Post #639198

Now that is one honking big plant!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 6, 2003
5:24 AM

Post #639327

Weeds,Let's Make You,the one Tan legged judge,in this contest!!!Unless you have a 16footer?
(and I think you are holding out some Whoppers)
You the Judge?(Please?)
LOL! Root©ट©¬
datdog
Medford, NJ
(Zone 6b)

September 6, 2003
11:02 AM

Post #639370

lilyfan I love the color on your castor plant! It looks black. If you have any extra seeds I'd love to trade your for a couple. Thanks, Kristi
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

September 6, 2003
1:50 PM

Post #639485

Me too Sue. Pop a couple in your pocket when you come over. Thanks a bunch!!
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

September 6, 2003
3:13 PM

Post #639608

Hey Root! I can't judge this contest, I'm in it. I still have to measure mine!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 6, 2003
3:23 PM

Post #639615

Just making sure you were paying attention!LOL!!!!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 6, 2003
4:55 PM

Post #639678




;0)

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weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

September 6, 2003
5:20 PM

Post #639690

I just tried to measure mine and it is about 3 1/2 crutches tall.

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


September 6, 2003
8:10 PM

Post #639823

Just checked in on your contest. Just love all the pictures. Too much fun. I am going ot have to grow one of those next year as I REALLY want a Ce-ment one!!! Just love the red ones.

Kristi, your leaf is so great. It looks curved. Is it? For what do you use it? I can see making path stones across my DH's lawn which I am plotting to take over.
llilyfan
South Central, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 11, 2003
3:11 AM

Post #644663

Thanks everyone. I just measured mine this evening and they are 9 feet tall. These are from Debbie at our plant swap this last spring. I'm going to have to do this again next year. This was my first year growing castors in about 10 years. Why did I wait so long!

llilyfan
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 12, 2003
12:25 AM

Post #645546

Lilyfan: They look fabulous esp. against the white. Only one of mine made it to maturity. Weeds took over one bed I had several in and crowded them out, the drought hindered them too. Next year I am planting a whole row of just the purples, even if I have to get some ground plowed.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 24, 2003
12:06 AM

Post #658921

If ya know the ole Root,you know I just had to stop and talk to this lady,it is on my way home from work.
I could only get the tape up to 15 ft.and still had a couple ft. of plant,we are going to trade seeds,and I have invited her to join Daves',she said her sister has a yard that is on the home tour,so I told her to tell her about DG also.

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TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

September 24, 2003
1:09 AM

Post #658960

Hey Root,

Just harvested my first purple castors today . . . on one pod 127 seeds . . lookin good! Got a lot more to go if the weather holds.
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

September 24, 2003
1:26 AM

Post #658976

Root, are you obsessed with Cator Beans? Those are some huge specimens...get that lady online!
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 24, 2003
2:20 AM

Post #659029

TLC: Good going. I sure hope the weather holds too. Got lots of seeds of castors and daturas, waiting for them all to mature.
I did get a few of the Imapala seeds tonight, they are extremely slow.

Root: Way to go. We need some more Castor Bean Growers.
ClaytonDT
Waco, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 24, 2003
2:26 AM

Post #659039

Hey Root, my castor bean is a little over seventeen feet tall now, but it still hasn't began to make any seed still.
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

September 24, 2003
2:29 AM

Post #659043

Clsyton, thst is huge! Maybe it is using all it's energy for growth.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 24, 2003
3:22 AM

Post #659084

What the Heck are you guys taking about????See I'm not the only Castor wacko here???
(gotta admit this Gal has some Castors!)
Brinda
Yukon, OK
(Zone 7b)

September 24, 2003
3:26 AM

Post #659091

They are just great! I will have these monsters next year!!! YEEEEEEEHA! I just can't wait until next year! I love them!

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 24, 2003
4:11 AM

Post #659128

Brinda,Losta room,Lotsa water,Lotsa plant!
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

September 24, 2003
11:52 AM

Post #659262

Debby,
What is the name of the green castor with red stems and red veins in the leaves?
They are my favorite next to the all purple ones so I have a lot of that seed drying also.

Boy that seed is easier to collect than the Giant celosia seed (so tiny!).
Badseed
Hillsboro, OH
(Zone 6a)

September 24, 2003
11:23 PM

Post #659833

Root, I just want to know what you said to her when you walked up??? LMBO!
ecobioangie
Mableton, GA
(Zone 7b)

September 25, 2003
1:16 AM

Post #659944

I know! I know!

'Hey baby, nice beans' :)

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 25, 2003
1:21 AM

Post #659950

LOL!I am not shy when it comes to plants!I think she really thought I was nuts when I pulled out the tape measure!
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 25, 2003
1:42 AM

Post #659979

Hey Root: You're problably the talk of her neighborhood by now.LOL.. All kidding aside, you problably made her day.

TLC: I have never found out what the name of the red veined green leaf--red stem variety is. Have searched the internet and all to null.
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

September 25, 2003
1:54 PM

Post #660434

Thanks Debby
I collect three good seeds off that yesterday.
rutholive
Tonasket, WA
(Zone 5a)

September 25, 2003
5:32 PM

Post #660679

Here is a shot of my castor beans, on the right is Ricinis Carmencita, red one. I can't remember the name of the tall green one. Donna

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rutholive
Tonasket, WA
(Zone 5a)

September 25, 2003
5:37 PM

Post #660684

And here is one of me and the green Castor Bean. i measured it this morning it is 9ft. 10inches now. That is pretty good for zone 5. Donna

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rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 26, 2003
1:23 AM

Post #661043

Alright Donna!!!!!The one on the right may be Ricinus Zanzibarensis,I am so glad you got in here for some fun!if I get some seeds from Kyle Thai I will save you a few.
So great to see you!
Shirley1md
Ellicott City, MD
(Zone 7a)

September 27, 2003
1:03 AM

Post #662068

SOB! SOB! I should have taken a picture of my Castor Bean tree BEFORE Hurricane Isabel hit the mid-Atlantic last week!! It was easily 10ft tall. Now, it is leaning on it's side, resting on the top of our split rail fence, with the top 1/3rd of the tree totally wilted and looking utterly pathetic!!! SOB!

Oh well, there's always next summer...

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 27, 2003
1:09 AM

Post #662073

Next summer we will have an official contest lol!I lost my big one on the drive when we got 9 in. of rain over a weekend.did you get to save any seeds?
Shirley1md
Ellicott City, MD
(Zone 7a)

September 27, 2003
1:32 AM

Post #662120

I'll see if the seed pods remained on the tree after being knocked over by Hurricane Isabel. I will definitely save the seeds, if any are remaining! :~)

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 27, 2003
5:40 AM

Post #662407

If not LMK!
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

September 27, 2003
7:17 AM

Post #662424

Shirley1md,
Looks like I will have seed

Root,
What is Thai?
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

September 27, 2003
12:47 PM

Post #662478

Debby, maybe you have Royal Thai. It has huge leaves with red veins on the bottom and a very dark trunk. Mine was slower to set seed too. In fact, they may get frosted next week before ready to harvest.
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

September 27, 2003
12:55 PM

Post #662482


Do you mean Arlene?
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

September 27, 2003
6:54 PM

Post #662752

Well, I guess you were the first to ask Arlene, and I didn't go back that far. Just caught Debby's post. Sorry about that.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 27, 2003
9:35 PM

Post #662884

Brugie: It may very well be Royal Thai. I should take a pic. of it before we do get the frost. I did get a few seeds of it, if yours don't come thru, I would have a few for ya.
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

September 27, 2003
9:39 PM

Post #662889

So I am still wondering what Royal Thai is. . . does anyone have a hyperlink?

Thanks
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

September 28, 2003
12:23 AM

Post #662976

Arlene, you can see mine when you come down on Tuesday. It is a huge, but very pretty, castor bean.
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

September 28, 2003
1:40 PM

Post #663393

How late can we keep these plants going - what's the bottom temperature?

Mine are finally hitting the 7 - 8 foot range (pretty good for me - got a late start in May and no extra water or fertilizer - pretty much whatever the sky gave it). My pods are still very soft and immature.

Do these pods really explode when drying?

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 28, 2003
1:43 PM

Post #663394

LOL!!!!!!!I had a load in a shoe box last year,sitting just behind me at puter,could not figure it out,I would here a pop,then something bouncing across floor!yes they do!
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

September 28, 2003
1:53 PM

Post #663398

I have the pink (Carmencita??) that is a very slow grower with seedpods that I want to collect. The one I really want seeds from is a giant purplish burgundy one (and it JUST set a pod) - so I might be begging for seeds for the purple one this winter. We're thinking about putting it all along a white picket fence as a secondary barrier to the street.

Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 28, 2003
5:21 PM

Post #663507

I love this post! Rootdoctor just told me about and I've spent a good hour checking out all the posts and the pictures!

Man! You guys have some AWESOME Castor Beans here!!! I'm so impressed! And I'm not even in the RUNNING with my puney little 4' Carmencita! But I definitely want in on the contest next year!!!

My Red Castor Bean started producing blooms in late June, and was in full bloom a week or so later. I let the blooms dry on the plant and then harvested them later than I could have last week (got about 52 seeds).

Should I have pulled the blooms off to keep it growing? It seems that since I clipped off the seed pods, it's taken off again. When is the best time to let them go to seed and collect them? You guys seem to be just now getting yours.

I let someone mess me up with mine, telling me it needed LESS water and didn't like too much! Sheesh! No wonder mine was stunted!

datdog & llilyfan, I love that gorgeous purple you have! If you ever want to swap seeds... LMK! ; )

Can't wait for next year's contest!
~ Carole
Brinda
Yukon, OK
(Zone 7b)

September 28, 2003
5:27 PM

Post #663515

I also want the giant purple CB to make a row around fence lines here. We have moles so bad that they destroy everything, even the grass. (I had a bed with well over 300 bulbs in it and they ate all of them except 3 bulbs, wasn't that nice of them?) I just hate them. We've spent so much time and money trying to get rid of them, and I'm really tired of messing with moles! Debby is my saviour here!

sbarr...I just read email that you sent me over a week ago. I will be responding to it later today or tomorrow. Please forgive me, sometimes I overlook some email when I'm in a hurry.
llilyfan
South Central, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 29, 2003
2:53 AM

Post #664066

cajun2, I'm just starting to harvest my seeds and should have enough to work out something with you.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 29, 2003
3:13 AM

Post #664082

lliyfan,I was just talking about you,and all my great friends I met up there!we might do a road trip to next Iowa round up!

Snag has a twin!

Cajun2 glad you found this thread!

Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 29, 2003
4:29 AM

Post #664123

Oh Yippee, Llilyfan!
What kinds of lilies do you grow?

Thanks for the welcome, Root!
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

September 30, 2003
1:17 AM

Post #665020

Bob, can I harvest immature beans and will they go ahead and mature? I'm afraid we will get a freeze in a couple of nights and they aren't ready yet. Let me know, will ya?

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 30, 2003
1:32 AM

Post #665042

Sure Shirley,I like to cut one open to see how well the pulp is developing,I have pulled a few already,and opened some from my storm damage,they seem to mature quickly,I'd say pop one off and inspect it to see what you have so far.
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

September 30, 2003
2:00 AM

Post #665111

Well, I'll have to call the fire dept. out with the ladder truck to get to the top of the plant. No way can I reach it without just breaking the top out.

I guess what I wanted to know was, will the seeds be okay if they freeze or should I take my chances with them developing on a chunk of the stalk?

This message was edited Sep 29, 2003 10:01 PM

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

September 30, 2003
2:13 AM

Post #665137

Shoot they reseed here,so the seeds must sit out all winter,don't worry too much on them,I'll make sure you get some seedlings in spring!or good seeds this winter,which ever you prefer.

Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 30, 2003
10:05 AM

Post #665341

Shirley, if you can't get seeds off yours, LMK. I can send you some too (Carmencita).
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

September 30, 2003
1:09 PM

Post #665593

I have the seed from the Red and Green Spire and Dwarf Green, just waiting on the Royal Thai. Thanks...I'm going to take my chances with the frost/freeze and leave them up there.
Shirley1md
Ellicott City, MD
(Zone 7a)

October 1, 2003
1:13 AM

Post #666192

Thanks everybody for your very generous offer of seeds. I greatly appreciate it.

But it turns out that even though Hurricane Isabel knocked over my Castor Bean Tree, it is STILL alive! It was saved from total destruction by our split rail fence, which broke its fall! When I checked tonight, the flowers were still there, plus, most of the leaves on the top and sides. The portion of the tree that struck the fence, those leaves have since wilted. That is one very hardy specimen! I'll be able to share the seeds from my tree too.

Here is a picture of it. It's really grown since the previous picture I posted in June. It just looks pathetic leaning against the fence rail.

Oops, I meant July.

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Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

October 1, 2003
3:14 AM

Post #666306

WOW Shirley! That's amazing!
So you can get it back into the ground then?!
That's fantastic! And check out those seed pods!! whoohoo!
Did you measure it when it was down?

Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

October 1, 2003
9:30 PM

Post #667082

Ok now I gotta couple of questions for you seasoned expert Castor Bean growers here. I have been watering and feeding my Carmencita and it's getting quite a few leaves now (or again) and seems to be making a come-back.

1) There is a tiny cluster of leaves growing at the BASE of my plant. Should I leave these? Or do they need to go so that the nutrients can focus more on HEIGHT?!

2) I believe it's making a cluster of blooms (and future seeds) again. Is this normal for this time of year? I think we've only got another couple of months before it starts getting really cold.

Do you think I'll have another batch of seeds on mine?
llilyfan
South Central, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 2, 2003
1:04 AM

Post #667272

Cajun2, forgot about this thread. I try orientals, asiatics, all their offspring and hybrids and of course dayLILIES. Email me your addy and I'll get a packet sent to you so I won't forget. We are supposed to get a hard freeze tonight so this may be the end of the season for me.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 2, 2003
1:36 AM

Post #667334

Cajun 2: Castor bean plants bloom up to the time it frosts and set seed too till then. We are to get a heavy frost tonight and Ours will be history.
If you want to cut off the leaves at the base then that would be okay.
Here is my good-bye picture of my Impala Castor Beans. Taken today, notice all the seedpods and it is blooming still. The seedpods have not matured, so they will be lost. Tomorrow morning it might be mush.

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Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 2, 2003
1:44 AM

Post #667351

Good Bye to Red Spire Castor Bean--Such a great joy to watch these grow. These and the impala's were only to get to be around 5 to 6 ft. tall. They have not been fertilized and we have been in a drought.

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scooterbug
Tellico Plains, TN
(Zone 7b)

October 2, 2003
2:02 AM

Post #667370

You all have really made an impression on me with these beautiful plants. Castor Beans have been added to my new tropical garden look next season.
...I've spent the last 2 months digging my iris & daylily Friendship Garden.
...Now I can start thinking about tropicals,I already have a few cannas and some brugs...got all winter to search for others.
...BTW...Everything has been killed off here already,just waiting for a little warmer weather to start cleaning up the gardens and yard.
...This is so strange to see all this dead stuff and the tree's leaves have not really started to color or fall yet.
...I was hanging linens out today ,sunny and very strong windy temps in the 40's,,,my fingers got numb...brrrrr.
weeds
Panhandle, FL
(Zone 8a)

October 2, 2003
2:12 AM

Post #667384

Beautiful Debby!

Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

October 2, 2003
4:03 AM

Post #667569

Debby ~ your Castor Beans are really so pretty. I know it's hard to say goodbye. There's always next year though!

Thanks for the advice on mine.
I'm happy to share seeds with other Castor Bean lovers too. Mine are Carmencitas (Red). I have a few plain green ones too (like one trade).

I think I'm going to put at least one in my front flower bed near my front door. The DH oughta LOVE that one!! LOL
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

October 2, 2003
4:11 AM

Post #667587

Hi Cajun2,
Welcome to Dave's. Do you have a picture of your carmencitas? Thanks

Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

October 2, 2003
4:15 AM

Post #667598

wellllll yes... but... let's just say I KNOW I'm not in the running here (this year anyway):
(and thanks for asking ; )

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rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

October 2, 2003
4:27 AM

Post #667616

Cajun2,My favorite saying from my father.

Our past is not our potential.

Cajun2

Cajun2
(Carole) Cleveland, TX
(Zone 9a)

October 2, 2003
4:56 AM

Post #667637

That is such a nice thought.
Wish my mother might have heard that at least once in her life (ahem).
We'll save that for another thread (lol).
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

October 2, 2003
10:30 PM

Post #668228

How are carmencitas different from Red Spire?
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 3, 2003
1:14 AM

Post #668386

TLC: I found my photo of Carmencita Red on the PDB. They are a short variety growing about 6 ft. tall. This photo will tell the rest. I believe the photo was from last year. As I didn't grow the red this year. I like Red Spire much better.

http://plantsdatabase.com/showpicture/771/
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

October 3, 2003
1:19 AM

Post #668396

But how is that different from the Thai? They look the same to me. I agree the Red Spire is much prettier.
Debby
Milo, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 3, 2003
1:20 AM

Post #668398

The season is over for me. It is history. They look so sad and sickly. We got a really good frost last night. Wanted to take a pic. tonight, but got busy with household chores. This thread will be nice to look at this winter and dream for next spring.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

October 3, 2003
1:44 AM

Post #668439

This was from Kyle,Thai I believe,just took this no buds or pods:0(

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

October 3, 2003
2:54 AM

Post #668510

My Royal Thai doesn't have red on the leaves. The seed stalk is covered with green pods. The stalk, and stems/veins of the leaves are deep red. I got my seeds from Kyle and am sure I don't have them mixed up. I only had four kinds this year. This one and both red and green spire and dwarf green. Maybe this is another of those cases where temps and soil makes the difference. My Royal Thai is quite tall, but I doubt that it would be over ten foot. Very pretty castor though.

Deb, my castors look fine after the frost. I've already collected seed except from the RT, so if you need any, let me know.
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

October 4, 2003
1:33 PM

Post #669975

I'm trying to eek more out mine before it gets really cold. Then I'll try to snip the pods and hope they have ripened enough. I was very pleased to get about 7-8 feet with no special treatment and a VERY late start.
plantfreedom
Saint Paul, MN
(Zone 4b)

May 14, 2004
4:04 PM

Post #870304

Hi, this is my first time posting a question.

I have long since loved the tropical look. My intention is to have castors all along a long fence and also I plan to clump them in some large corners. I'm wondering if there is a recommendation as to how far apart to plant them. Do they become more full if planted farther apart/do they crowd each other out if planted too close together? I don't need to go for record height, but would like a full look hopefully at least 6 feet tall.

Also, I am wondering if it is possible, or if anyone has tryed, to dry these plants to be used as indoor decor. I have some tropical decorating going on indoors too, and would love to use the castor bean as a dryed floral arrangement if possible.

By the way, I live in Minnesota, zone 4-5.

Thank you for any suggestions.

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

May 14, 2004
5:10 PM

Post #870357

Well Wlecome to Daves!!! Glad to have you here!
I just started soaking my seeds,I like to soak them for a day and let the end swell,I plant them right in the ground,I have found the ones that do the best,are the ones that have reseeded,they seem to like being direct sown,I do not think they like to have their taproot cramped.
I would plant them about 2ft apart for a hedge effect,they should fill in nice for you.
As far as a dried flower,I am not sure how they would work for this,they get ugly as they dry.
I have seen the leaves used in concretee,as stepping stones and birdbaths,with stunning effect!.
Root.
irish
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 14, 2004
8:21 PM

Post #870572

Hey root can I enter a pic of the same plant from last year or do I have to grow a new one...
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

May 14, 2004
8:41 PM

Post #870592

I keep meaning to ask about entering some from down here(they are trees here, they don't die in the winter)

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

May 14, 2004
9:09 PM

Post #870602

Hey Cala!! How about if you or irish start a new thread!! It can be this years contest,I notice this one loaded slow even on my cable,so lets get a new one going,you start it!
I'm gonna have to read through this one to see who the Unofficial winner was of this unofficial contest!
See,I could not claim myself as winner of my own contest,and this year I have a really good feelin about my Castors,I could be a contender!!LOL
irish
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 16, 2004
11:28 PM

Post #872768

this is last years plant this year...

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Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

May 17, 2004
1:40 AM

Post #872894

What's the name of that one Pete?
Liz
North Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)

May 17, 2004
3:39 AM

Post #873026

Is the contest happening again this year?? Cool! Does the winner get a monkey?

rootdoctor

rootdoctor
Harrisville, MI
(Zone 5b)

May 17, 2004
5:09 AM

Post #873087

Winner gets a Monkey sittin on the deck with a Beer! I have a good feelin I may win,(LOL!)call it Monkey luck,call it dumb luck,I just can not start the contest!(Last year,I coulda been a contender!,LOL!)

Somebody please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Start one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sbarr
Albany (again), NY
(Zone 5b)

May 17, 2004
7:51 AM

Post #873143

awwww. aren't you the monkey on the deck? :)
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

May 17, 2004
12:48 PM

Post #873244

Susie started the new 2004 contest here:
http://davesgarden.com/t/430729/
irish
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 17, 2004
8:09 PM

Post #873700

brugie... don't have a name for it but I wish it could hide the view of my neighbors back yard...lol
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

May 18, 2004
12:07 AM

Post #873959

If those red blooms are on your castor, I've never seen one like it before. Some red spires would hide their yard. Wish I had some seeds, but I sent them home with someone. I love the red spire's color in the leaves. Well, I'm moving over to the new thread now. This one is taking a long time to load. See ya there Pete.
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 29, 2006
5:00 PM

Post #2770157

Well...I have been trying to get Castor Beans for several months and was told at the nursery that they are now illegal to sell and they would not be forthcoming. Seems that a common poison can be made from the seeds and due to Home Security Laws they are listed as dangerous. Sorry to be spoil sport because my mother grew them every summer and I wanted to duplicate her green thumb.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

September 29, 2006
6:31 PM

Post #2770386

LouC

When did this law start? I just bought 3 varieties from eBay a few weeks ago and they were delivered within a few days. I just did a search on eBay and see they are still selling them. I hope they don't do this. What's next on the hit list? Datura?

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&catref=C12&satitle=castor&sacat=2032&catref=C6&sargn=-1&saslc=2&sadis=200&fpos=30127&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1&fsoo=1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=



renatelynne
Boerne new zone 30, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 29, 2006
9:08 PM

Post #2770771

Datura grows wild around my house... I never planted it and I have beautiful plants! *giggle
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 1, 2006
10:32 PM

Post #2776604

the poison is called Roisin and was involved in a mailbox something in Washington DC two or three years ago.

Easy to make and looks like talcom powder according to the big stink when it was found in the mailbox.
scooterbug
Tellico Plains, TN
(Zone 7b)

November 6, 2006
2:48 AM

Post #2886093

Ricin mailing was linked to terrorism.

Then there followed the usual jerks sending out talcum powder to officials in DC
plantladyhou
Katy, TX
(Zone 8b)

November 6, 2006
2:30 PM

Post #2887050

Used to have beautiful Castor bean trees. DDH hated them because they got in his way when he mowed so I got rid of them. Later when I wanted to plant some, no seeds on the seed rack. I think they are beautiful! There are so many plant that are poisonous including indoor plants or others that are inedible because they don't taste good and/or make your mouth pucker. We were told the other day that Turk's Cap leaves are edible but they don't taste good but if you are starving and happen upon Turk's Cap, you won't exactly starve. I have a spot that would really be good for Castor but no seeds. It would be right next to a bush you don't want to use for your campfire or to roast your marshmallows on - oleanders. Go figure...

Ann
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

November 6, 2006
3:37 PM

Post #2887242

Ann,

You can buy some off eBay. I just checked and there were over 40 offers. I ordered 3 different types off eBay a couple of months ago and checked the germination by planting two seeds of each. They all came up and I now have them in the basement under lights where they are blooming but aren't very big due to being grown in pots.
plantladyhou
Katy, TX
(Zone 8b)

November 6, 2006
4:20 PM

Post #2887372

Thx for the info but I'm not into Ebay. It's just me - I don't trust them but I do trust DGers.

Ann
Azalea
Jonesboro, GA
(Zone 7b)

November 6, 2006
5:21 PM

Post #2887549

There are a lot of DG'ers on Ebay- me included! The sellers have a reputation to uphold. You can check their feedback.
plantladyhou
Katy, TX
(Zone 8b)

November 6, 2006
5:45 PM

Post #2887609

Thanks so much! I will have to try them. I have a DDIL who does a lot on Ebay so I'll ask her about all this.

Ann
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

November 6, 2006
7:27 PM

Post #2887871

I've bought a lot of things off eBay and have only had one bad experience so far and it wasn't a lot of money.

You can also check other seed suppliers on line which would be quicker than waiting on catalogs to be delivered through the mail.
digital_dave
Springfield, MO
(Zone 6a)

November 6, 2006
9:25 PM

Post #2888212

I've got a packet ready for next Spring courtesy of "Tropicman." Since these grow so fast is there any advantage to starting them in pots in the greenhouse in early Spring?
scooterbug
Tellico Plains, TN
(Zone 7b)

November 6, 2006
9:34 PM

Post #2888248

I believe you get the best growth in the ground where it will stay.

Castor beans highly resent having their tap root disturbed.
If transplanted they will still grow but not as tall.
BDunn
Sunset Beach, NC
(Zone 8a)

November 9, 2006
3:30 AM

Post #2896547

I thought the castor bean would be an annual in my area (8b). It grew about 8' this season. Do you think it will come back after we get a freeze? We only get a few during the winter.

I keep cutting the blooms off so that it doesn't self sow and just to be sure the dog doesn't go after the seeds, but I'm thinking about letting it go now and see what happens through the winter. What do you think will happen?

Barbara
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)

November 11, 2006
1:38 PM

Post #2903890


BDunn,
I let the castor beans go at the Southern California house and the trunk got so big we had trouble removing them. In Iowa I just collected the seeds and started new ones every spring. Even if it would keep growing for you, it would be better to start over.
BDunn
Sunset Beach, NC
(Zone 8a)

November 19, 2006
3:29 PM

Post #2927586

Thanks TwinLakesChef,

I think I'll do what you recommend.
scooterbug
Tellico Plains, TN
(Zone 7b)

November 19, 2006
4:58 PM

Post #2927772

I agree, even here in Wisconsin they get so big I need to yank them out with my 4 wheeler and a chain.
A friend in TX said they are like big trees down there.
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

March 19, 2007
10:27 PM

Post #3300105

does anyone have any of Debby's purple castor seeds they could share? someone pointed me to some on ebay, but I"m not sure they're the same.

rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

March 26, 2007
1:51 AM

Post #3320866

This ones pretty tall...It's shaking off the winter slumber and the leaves are starting to grow bigger.
Rj

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Brinda
Yukon, OK
(Zone 7b)

March 26, 2007
6:20 PM

Post #3323021

Rj, that's a tree!!!!
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

March 26, 2007
6:27 PM

Post #3323035

Yeah...It must be a perfect senario location, sun and everything..I haven't seen any around the neighborhood as tall
Desertdenial5
Tolleson, AZ
(Zone 9a)

March 26, 2007
6:31 PM

Post #3323042

Wow RJ that is very tall. I need about 30 of those to keep the gophers at bay.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

March 26, 2007
6:35 PM

Post #3323058

LOL, even the rats leave them alone here. I wonder if there are castor bean forrests? besides the one trying to grow in the back garden
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2008
6:22 PM

Post #4974411

Though I notice some of these postings are a couple of years old, I have noticed people interested in purchasing castor bean seeds but cannot find them. Just thought I'd let everyone know I purchased castor bean seeds this spring from Seedrack.com and Henry Fields Nursery. One was a red variety, but I can't remember which place I got it.
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 20, 2008
4:46 PM

Post #4978682

Shoot I have tons of red castor beans if anyone wants them.
Jan
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

May 20, 2008
4:51 PM

Post #4978702

I'll take some.
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 20, 2008
5:36 PM

Post #4978905

Anyone interested just send a SASBE.
i'm in the address exchange. Include a note that it's for red castor beans


busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

May 30, 2008
2:36 AM

Post #5023807

budgielover, do you have the one that has the burgandy leaves?
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 30, 2008
8:56 AM

Post #5024797

Yes they have the burgandy leaves.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

May 30, 2008
12:37 PM

Post #5025221

Did you get my sasbe? I mailed it last week.
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 30, 2008
12:39 PM

Post #5025227

Got it yesterday or day before. Will be picking fresh seeds tomorrow.

This message was edited May 30, 2008 8:40 AM
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

May 30, 2008
4:05 PM

Post #5026050

K.
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

May 30, 2008
11:17 PM

Post #5027828

budgielover,
I would like to have a couple of seed if you still have some.
I will send the sasbe.
Thanks
Mary
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 31, 2008
10:28 AM

Post #5029765

Have plenty.
Dean_W
Central Texas, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 3, 2008
2:06 PM

Post #5045709

My castor bean plants are about 4' tall and already flowering. Anybody know why? I thought they were suppose to get taller before they flower.

Dean
Azalea
Jonesboro, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 3, 2008
3:38 PM

Post #5046138

I think they will still keep growing, give them lots of water if you can.
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 3, 2008
4:24 PM

Post #5046436

Cut off the flowers. It will waste it's energy with early blooming. It will continue to grow.
Dean_W
Central Texas, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 3, 2008
6:36 PM

Post #5047099

Okay, I've been watering them every two days. Oh, I'll cut off the flowers then.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 3, 2008
7:03 PM

Post #5047210

Do we have any seeds yet?
Dean_W
Central Texas, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 3, 2008
8:41 PM

Post #5047636

no seeds yet.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 3, 2008
9:07 PM

Post #5047758

mine is on it's second round of seeds.
The largest has a 12 inch round trunk. It became so big that large branches have broken off when it bloomed. It didn't help that there are heavy woodrose vines in it too..I have to keep pulling them off.

I'm wondering if we're on the verge of a drought...it's been hot and windy for weeks with no rain in the forecase for this area.
rj
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 4, 2008
9:08 AM

Post #5050493

Bubba,
Your seeds went out Monday.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 4, 2008
12:40 PM

Post #5050989

Thank you very much! I look forward to getting them!
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 6, 2008
9:49 PM

Post #5064630

Bubba
Did you get the seeds?
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 7, 2008
3:10 PM

Post #5067510

I'm sorry. Yes, I did. Thank you! They are soaking now, getting ready to plant.
BDunn
Sunset Beach, NC
(Zone 8a)

June 7, 2008
4:14 PM

Post #5067721

I've got some seeds from 2 seasons ago. Do you think they're still worth planting? Should I just soak them till they pop open then plant or should I start them as seedlings inside till they get their true leaves then put in the ground. What's your advice?

Thanks everyone!

Barbara
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 7, 2008
6:10 PM

Post #5068202

Soaking isn't necessary. Just pop them in the dirt and keep damp. Germinates very quickly. I always have lots of babies coming up year round from where ever they hit the ground. Fortunately, they are easily to pull or hoe up when small.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 9, 2008
8:04 PM

Post #5078073

Hey! Anybody know? Are castor bean plants just as lethal to insects as they are to people and animals? I have something chewing on mine and I am hoping whatever it is is gonna die! Does that sound cruel?
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 9, 2008
8:05 PM

Post #5078077

nope...I keep trying to get the squirrels to try it.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 9, 2008
8:15 PM

Post #5078118

That makes me laugh! I have 3 squirrels. (That I know of.) When I first noticed them a few years ago I thought they were cute. I still think they are funny. When I go out in my backyard and catch one running across my roof or in my tree I think it's funny the way they freeze and think I don't see them. I walk right up to them and look them in they eye and talk to them 'til they can't stand it, they have to look. But it is irritating to go out and find the new branches of my blushing bride hydrangeas broken. They are not very big to begin with. I have seen ants crawling on my castor bean plants. I am hoping the castor bean plants will kill the ants. We are having a terrible time with them here. I have put 7 granules in the grass and flower beds. I even tried a home remedy last year that called for grape jelly mixed with poison powder. Didn't work.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 9, 2008
8:31 PM

Post #5078206

aaahh...I was wondering why I still had pears on the pear tree in june, because usually there all chowed by then. I think they must have been nesting, because no sooner had I marveled at the fact of having pears, I came home to see pears all over the ground with a bite out of each and tossed. A couple of the squirrels are big as cats, my friend and I couldn't believe our eyes because it was so big. No freezing on this one..he just looks back at you unconcerned. I call it the mutant squirrel. And the behavior...it chased off some pidgeons from the bird bath, and then postured like a an angry bear or chimpanze, boxing the branches of the tree it was in after chasing the pidgeon.

I heard there was an invasion of a new species of ant in Texas this year that was pretty difficult to get rid of because of their numbers.
I haven't tried it, but was told that coffee grounds deter ants. The concept is that the coffee odor interferes with they're communication and navigation.
busybee
Kentwood, LA
(Zone 8b)

June 9, 2008
8:32 PM

Post #5078212

I sent my sasbe several days ago. Have you received it yet?
Many thanks.
M.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 9, 2008
8:39 PM

Post #5078243

As many ant holes as I have? My yard would smell like coffee. Coffee isn't cheap either. Are you suppose to put it in the hole? Or sprinkle it around?
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 9, 2008
8:42 PM

Post #5078261

all of the above. Starbucks gives away their grounds
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 9, 2008
9:06 PM

Post #5078374

There isn't a Starbucks in Woodward, but thank you for trying to help. By the way, does your squirrel have a collar and a leash? Ha! ha! Do your pears have growth hormones in them?
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 9, 2008
10:48 PM

Post #5078854

LOL, it's probably drinking starbucks coffee!
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 9, 2008
11:29 PM

Post #5079061

That would explain throwing the pears! Wrapped a little tight, are they?
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 10, 2008
12:26 AM

Post #5079487

They are...They really get irratated at the vines, as they both travel the same pathways, and I've seen the squirrels just go off on the vine
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 10, 2008
1:09 AM

Post #5079705

Busybee,
Got yours and several others. Been putting in alot of OT at work but they are all ready to go out in the am. Did you have seeds in yours. Wasn't sure what your note meant but there wasn't anything in it if there was supposed to been. The flap was loose so they could have fallen out or been hyjacked.
joycet
Franklin, OH
(Zone 6a)

June 18, 2008
5:43 PM

Post #5123163

Budgie...do you have any red seeds left?
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 18, 2008
10:30 PM

Post #5124533

Yep. Just send sasbe. Always have plenty.
joycet
Franklin, OH
(Zone 6a)

June 19, 2008
12:28 PM

Post #5126863

On it's way tomorrow!

You're a gem!

Thanks.
LiliMerci
North of Atlanta, GA
(Zone 8a)

June 19, 2008
7:02 PM

Post #5128651

I hate squirrels. Call them Tree Rats! Before we had kids, use to shoot them with a bb gun. It just keeps them away for a few days, then they come back. I know a friend that grew up in southern georgia and his mother eat them. She can come and get mine anyday.
scooterbug
Tellico Plains, TN
(Zone 7b)

June 19, 2008
10:14 PM

Post #5129511

*snort* tree rats.

Up in Wisconsin we called them roof rats lol lol
scooterbug
Tellico Plains, TN
(Zone 7b)

June 19, 2008
10:16 PM

Post #5129524

Party Rat

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bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

June 20, 2008
12:02 AM

Post #5130079

I think they are cute, but they are really starting to aggrivate me. I wait and wait for my cannas to start peaping out of the ground. When they start getting big enough to have the first leaf, I go out to find it's broken. Same with my elephant ears. They broke my bird feeder. How do you feed the birds and thwart the squirrels?
scooterbug
Tellico Plains, TN
(Zone 7b)

June 20, 2008
12:47 AM

Post #5130304

I feed all or none at all , simple☻
LiliMerci
North of Atlanta, GA
(Zone 8a)

June 20, 2008
3:17 AM

Post #5131067

They're greedy. Even if you feed them, they will still get in your birdfeeder. Hate 'em.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 12, 2008
9:16 PM

Post #5248149

K people. I need assistance. This is my first year to grow castor beans. LOVE THEM!!! Love the foliage, but I have a question. I have planted both green and red. Aren't the leaves of the red one supposed to be burgandy colored? All mine seem to be green so far. I have spied a purple leaved one on ebay I would like to buy. When I get it and plant it, am I going to be disappointed 'cause when it grows the leaves are going to be green also? I like the green, don't get me wrong, but I was anxious to see the differing colors of foliage. I have also just purchased two new ones, giant zanzibar that is supposed to have leaves up to 3 ft. wide and zanzi palm which is supposed to grow like a palm. Anyone ever grown these varieties before? And can anyone tell me why my red ones are not red?
LiliMerci
North of Atlanta, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2008
9:22 PM

Post #5248196

I can't get my castor beans to germinate. Do you just stick yours in the ground and look for them to come up next year. I'm actually pretty good with seeds, except Castor Beans, Plumerias and Passionflower Vines!
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 12, 2008
9:30 PM

Post #5248240

I soak my castor beans overnight, then plant them. In March, when I got my first bunch from Henry Fields, I put them in peat pellets, put the peat pellets in a Jiffy tray, and put a plant light on them. They always started popping out of the pellets in a week. Once they popped out of the pellets, it wasn't long before I had to put them in pots because they just got too tall for the jiffy tray. Also, the roots grew out of the pellets and into the pellets next to them. Once it got warm enough, I just stuck them in the ground. I have heard others say you don't have to soak them but I always have. Not all of them come up, but most of them do. How are you planting yours?
LiliMerci
North of Atlanta, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2008
11:16 PM

Post #5248726

I did soak them for about 24 hours and then I'm trying to germinate them in the coffee filter method. It's hard as a rock. I even sanded them down a little.
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 12, 2008
11:30 PM

Post #5248802

I don't know what the coffee filter method is. Put some peat moss in a baggie, dampen the moss (not wet) and plant them in it. I have some ruffled fan palm seeds that are hard as rocks. I soaked them, put them in peat pellets, then put the pellets in baggies. The instructions on these seeds said it would take 60 days at least for them to germinate (or not at all). It said they needed a certain temp. I had the baggie sitting on my kitchen counter for the longest time. Nothing. Then I tried laying it on my heating pad set on low. I finally put the baggie outside where I knew the outdoor temps would keep the bag warm, but I put it in the shade so they wouldn't cook. I just checked them today. Two of them have a root. Have you tried just poking them in the ground and keeping the soil moist until they germinate? It shouldn't take very long. How many seeds do you have?
Dean_W
Central Texas, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 13, 2008
12:20 AM

Post #5249035

I planted mine directly in the ground where I wanted them.
joycet
Franklin, OH
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2008
5:34 PM

Post #5252152

Budgielover!!!

I got my seeds! Thanks so much for sharing!
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2008
10:09 PM

Post #5253524

Anyone know where I can get the castor bean seed called "Black Death"?
Dean_W
Central Texas, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 13, 2008
10:26 PM

Post #5253623

Bubba, Lol!!! What do you want "Black Death" for? Where did you see it?
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2008
10:41 PM

Post #5253724

That's the name of the plant. I saw it in a picture on another thread. The leaves are really dark. Almost black.
Dean_W
Central Texas, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 14, 2008
3:41 AM

Post #5255377

Oh!
robcorreia
San Diego, CA
(Zone 10b)

July 15, 2008
10:48 PM

Post #5264890

I just came accross this thread, and I am cracking up! lol! Budgielover, I would love to try growing castor beans. Do you still have some for sasbe? Thanks!
Bubba: just toss the coffee grounds around your plants, I always get some at starbucks, the plants love it!
LiliMerci
North of Atlanta, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2008
3:34 AM

Post #5266493

Bubba, I usually use the coffee filter method to germinate my seeds. I get about 90% germination this way. I have small coffee filter (for 4-6 cups?) Open them up flat and cut them in half. Wet the filter and squeeze out the excess water. Put the seeds in them. Roll them up 2 times and fold the rest back, so that I will only have 1 layer of coffee filter on one side. Put the coffee filter (with seeds) in a small "snack-size" bag, Seal most of the edge and stick a straw into the middle opening and blow some air into the bag. Seal up the rest of the bag. I leave it the bag in a warm sunroom or under kitchen puck lights (in winter time). Check on it every few days to see if it's germinated. If not, check the filter to make sure it's still damp. If not, add (or mist) some water and squeeze out excess water.

Anyway, if the seeds are hard, I sand them down a little bit on the sandpaper (or nail file) after initially soaking them for 24-48 hours.

Anyway, the castor bean seeds are hard as rock. I'm just going to put them in the ground tomorrow and forget all about it. I'm sure this is going to come back to haunt me in a few years.

N.
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

July 16, 2008
11:37 AM

Post #5267347

There is no need to pre-germinate castor been seeds. If there was, I wouldn't get hundred of volunteers plants coming up from where the seed pods drop on the ground. Just plant them 1 inch or so under the dirt, water when dry and forget about them. They will be up in no time.
Jan...
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 16, 2008
2:08 PM

Post #5268020

LiliMerci- Thank you for explaining that method. And it comes just in time. I am very upset right now. I have seeds planted in little pots (the small ones seedlings come in) and had them sitting on a stand right outside my back porch. I was keeping them moist but not wet. This was the perfect spot because it got morning sun but not the baking afternoon sun. I got up this morning. It was raining. I had the pots sitting 4 to a metal pie tin. One tin was receiving water that was coming off the roof. Half the soil is gone out of those pots and is all over the porch, washing off into my flower bed. Later on, after I recover emotionally, I am going to have to go into the kitchen (brought them in) and fish through the soil and see if my seeds are still in the pots. I am sooo hoping the soil washed out from the bottom.

One question. After you stick the straw in and blow, do you take the straw out and seal bag completely?
LiliMerci
North of Atlanta, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2008
3:18 PM

Post #5268405

Julia, Yes, you take out the straw. I meant to put that. I guess blowing some air in it and sealing up the "bubble" gives it the greenhouse effect. I'll have to find the link that I read all this under and post it for you later. So you don't have to use the straw, you can blow into the plastic bag and seal it, but I find that it's easier to seal most of the bag and stick a straw in it. This keeps most of the air in the bag.

I am sorry about your seeds. I know how you feel. I had some zinnias that I planted from seeds. I got one bloom on one and I was waiting for the buds to open. Came out the other morning and the deer had eaten the bloom and most of the buds off the top! Luckily, I still have a few side branches, so I hope I'll get to see some of the blooms. To make it worse, I can't seem to find the remaining of my cactus flower zinnia seeds, so if I can't salvage the blooms, I won't have any seeds for next year. :( I don't know why, but they are not interested in my yellow ones. They did eat my purple ones.

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bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 16, 2008
3:53 PM

Post #5268589

Well. I have been through most of the pots. I purchased 5 musa sikkimensis daj giant (it's a banana) seeds. I planted 4. Now I only have the one I didn't plant. You can bet I will be germinating that in the house. Of the others, there were only 1 or 2 seeds in each pot. Fortunately, I never pot all the seeds at once so I have a second chance. But I spent so much money.
robcorreia
San Diego, CA
(Zone 10b)

July 16, 2008
6:40 PM

Post #5269451

Oh no! That's not good Julia...sorry to hear that!
I usually sow my seeds in peat pots (the ones they sell at lowes, etc) and cover with a plastic dome to keep humidity. I put everything in the patio, shaded by a trellis and warmed up from below by the stone floor.
Can you believe I sowed zinnias this way on Sunday and they ALREADY germinated???
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)

July 16, 2008
6:48 PM

Post #5269486

They must be the Oklahoma variety (ha!ha!ha!). Everythings sharper and quicker here!

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