Now ain't that purdy?! (Morning Glory pic)

Franklin, WI(Zone 5a)

I forgot about taking this pic last season. This one was quite striking while it lasted! I enjoyed the large blooms, about 4" across. They were from a packet of Purple Tye Dye and obviously mutated or were from open pollinated seeds? Sadly, I accidentally broke the vine off while trying to snap some additional pics a few days later. Just thought I'd share!

Sandy

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Franklin, WI(Zone 5a)

Here's another one photographed on a different day. I think it was a little brighter out that day, making this one a little more cheerful!

Sandy

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Stockton, CA(Zone 9a)

That is beautiful! Hope you were able to collect seed from it before it broke.

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Love the color. I'm just getting so anixous for spring to arrive. Great pictures.

North Vancouver, BC(Zone 8a)

Well, miss Brugie, if you are into getting anixous, then I am sure getting anixous, too!!!!!!!! Elaine

Lewisburg, KY(Zone 6a)

Very pretty. I am just learning about vines. Some of the morning glories are really pretty. After growing up on a farm and chopping many down when at home. I had never given them a second thought. I must do some research, any more good photos I could see?
Teresa in KY

Franklin, WI(Zone 5a)

...sometimes its just fun to go waaaay back and read old posts! I don't even recall posting this, much less these flowers I must have grown in 2003!

Sandy

Calgary, AB(Zone 3a)

Sandy - it really is a great idea to read the old posts, especially for us newbies. I scanned all 61? pages of threads on Friday night, and read the ones I was interested in. I'm going to start my first annual morning glory seeds inside in a few weeks so I want to make sure I don't mess them up.

(My eyeballs were ready to pop out of my head by the time I finished going through all those old posts!)



Joanne

Mid-Michigan, MI(Zone 5b)

Grow_Jo, I'm pretty much a newbie myself and I've been reading a forum a night! I just started my very first morning glories yesterday. I sprouted over 60 seeds!! :)

Edited to add:
I haven't grown any to maturity yet and I'm already addicted....to the point that I'm bidding on JMGs on ebay!! Matuskaze is breathtaking!

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Calgary, AB(Zone 3a)

Holy Cow, MsKatt. Are you saying your morning glories germinated overnight? Awesome. Be sure to post some pix of your babies once they've grown a bit. How exciting.

(I hear ya about the addiction thing. I don't know if I've ever even seen a morning glory in my life but after seeing the pictures posted in the morning glory forum, I'm itching to grow my own. Haven't ventured on to ebay for seeds yet, but I imagine that's just a matter of time. LOL).

Joanne

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

one of my favorite forums to brighten my day with these glorious pictures and instruction...

Mid-Michigan, MI(Zone 5b)

Well, I don't know if "germinated" is the correct term. I soaked them and when I took them out of the solution, they had little white things sticking out them. For this plant-challenged newbie, I'm calling them germinated! Woo hoo! :)

Now after they are in potting medium and green things actually appear...then I will post pics :)

Michelle

Wilmington, DE(Zone 7a)

Really pretty MG, Sandy!

Joseph

(Ronnie), PA(Zone 6b)

WoW that sure was a pretty one Sandy!!

Franklin, WI(Zone 5a)

...colorful memories of days gone by ~ LOL~

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

The ray pattern is similar to Sazanami exept Sazanami looks like it has a blizzard affect along with it. It is very pretty the way the pattern comes out on the sides making the flower impressive to look at. I love it!

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

I remember you sharing that georgeous Sazanami. Do you s`pose this flower could be a cross with Sazanami? Did you grow this from seed that grew with your Sazanami or did you get it from another open pollinated source?

I`d be interested if Ron had any input.

Here is another flower that has the ray gene with the blizzard gene together that looks similar to the one seen in the Sazanami. It is a smaller type of flower. I think mine has six "spokes" to it but one is sort of "blizzarded" out. I can`t really tell from this picture or recall if it has 5 or 6. I`m growing it again from three larger healthier looking seeds I got from it. We will see what happens.

I`m learning so this is very interesting to me.



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Jacksonville, AR(Zone 7b)

Very pretty Karen.

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

It isn`t as pretty as Sandy`s but I was inspired by the picture of her Sazanami flowers. I also noticed the flower in this thread has the ray pattern like the Sazanami but isn`t showing the blizzard. This one of mine is a little stray sporting the interesting patterns. :)

Btw,I got some Sazanami seeds on the way. I`m going to try growing some out and hand pollinating....so I can hopefully share these with everyone and get Sandy some more seeds. I hope they breed true!

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Franklin, WI(Zone 5a)

Gardener2005...these MG's were from a pkt of Park's Purple Tye Dyed seeds, so they weren't a result of seeds I harvested. I do agree that they remind (us) of Sazanami. I doubt that I collected seed...don't have the opportunity for mature pods here in these parts! This year I am definitely growing more MGs in containers and will do what I have to in order to collect seed!

I do have a few more sazanami seeds that I will try and grow this year and collect seed from. Is the sazanami you have in route the more purple cultivar, or the blue like I posted in another thread? I know when I bought the seeds thru a Co-op, there were two different ones available.

When you grow them out I hope you can harvest seeds as I'm sure we'd all like to trade for them! BTW...I like the photo you posted....was this harvested seed or a particular variety? I'm partial to purples....oh, and blues....and pinks...and !!!



Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

My Sazanzmi are supposed to look blue like yours. I got my little purple one in a seed mix from ebay...go figure. :)

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

*sighs* It`s Sazanami. Sorry about that. ;)

Gresham, OR(Zone 8a)

theres two variations of the sazanami...light and dark

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

I never meant to imply my purple one was a Sazanami and true the Sazanami is blue and comes in light and dark. I`m going to give both the light and dark a try this year.

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

The Sazanami has thrown more different variations than any other 'named type' that I'm aware of...including all manner of blizzards,solids,dilutes and rayed...more inconsistencies than consistencies...the most consistent feature of a sazanami is the extreme variations that 'it' produces...JMHO...

The flower posted by Sandy here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Seedsower_1073704730_172.jpg
is typical of the variations that come out of the blizzard(s)...basically looks like a blue rayed type...it may or may not stabilize like shown...there are 5 types of blizzards described by Dr.Yoneda...some blizzards can have a cycle of patterns that can jump or skip generations...these patterns that jump generations may or may not become stabilized...

So,since the ray pattern is such a common 'archetypical' pattern...it get's thrown by various named or unamed types...the genes for the rayed pattern are floating around in alot of types...and I'm personally glad to see them as they get combined with color variations...
hopefully these variations will get isolated and stabilized...
too often the interesting variations just get lost in the genepool by being grown out in a situation where isolating the unusual variation just isn't done for various reasons,e.g., lack of sufficient motivation or plants grown out too intertwangled together to enable isolating the standout variations etc,...

I've noticed that alot of variations(more than usual) come out of Ohio and Texas...Sandy also seems to always get unusual variations ..
the 'mutations' from Ohio have been 'laughingly' ascribed to various types of environmental/Industrial pollution and this may actually be the case...what's going on in Texas and in Franklin,WI also remains 'speculative'...

TTY,...

Ron

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Thanks Ron! You are right about the selection. Simply hand pollinating isn`t enough. The rogues and also the cool variants have to be singled out of the batches to avoid any undesirable traits or any traits not favorable for maintaining a partucular named cultivar. The hand pollinating eliminates cross pollination from insects but watching for the quality and partucular traits will ensure maintaining the variety. Another thing I do is purchase new seed of a variety once in a while to introduce genetic diverstiy to prevent too much inbreeding.

Sometimes I think you will see the flowers they used to create the variety. The seed can revert back to the varieties used to create the variety in the first place sometimes. Most working people are too busy to stop on the walkway on their way into work and say,"Oh,I better go mark that flower. It isn`t supposed to be pink...but I like this one. " I think it is wonderful we do have people who are taking the time to work on keeping their gardens growing pretty and taking care to maintain heirlooms and also coming up with different seldom seen colors and patterns. That is one of the reasons why I visit here.

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

It won`t let me edit...the word is particular not partucular. It`s my typing...sorry

Franklin, WI(Zone 5a)

Hmmnnn...very interesting Ron!

I live across the street from a large quarry....maybe all the lime in the soil (and the resulting dust floating around in the air is affecting my blooms?!

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)






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Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Franklin,WI >solved(!)...

Mining certainly brings up and concentrates alot of metals(heavy) and other substances that would ordinarilly not be present in such concentrations on the surface...

Well at least we get some nice MG variations out of it...


Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Here is one of my Plum Rayed.
This is a sport of my 'Plum Frost' that I STILL don't have stabilized, but the seeds continue to produce beautiful and interesting blooms.

Emma

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Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Different Bloom, Same Vine

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Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

One more,
Again different Bloom, Same Vine

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scio, oregon, OR(Zone 8a)

I have one of your Plaum Frost seeds growing now, Emma. I can't wait to see what bloom it produces.

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Is this your plum frost? This went through stages. First is was almost solid purple rayed,then it developed blizzard in a sprinkling over it and the final blooms showed a bit more blizzard and some striping of the white. I bought these on ebay and it could have been you. I have some selfed hand pollinated seeds from this and growing it again at this very moment preparing the seeds to grow it out to see how it does. I crossed it with some others too.

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Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Beth,

Be sure to let us know what your blooms do. Are you sure it was 'Plum Frost' that I sent you.
It may be a bloom that I named 'Plum Shadows' which is a sport of 'Plum Frost'
All three photos above are 'Plum Shadows'.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=3258410

So, maybe you will get the 'Real Thing'. BUT - What ever those seeds do, they WILL be awesome.
There are some VERY strong genes in this strain and it continues to amaze me at all of the different types, colors, and styles of blooms that I get.

Incidentally, this one single seed that gave me 'Plum Frost' came from one single seed that didn't grow true and was instead 'Plum Frost', that came from Japan. Now, that was confusing!


Karen,

No that isn't 'Plum Frost'
But it IS 'Awesome'.
Love your Bloom...

I have gotten some very nice 'Plum Frost' Blooms since the original, but when I re-grow them they are not 'True'.
This could possibly be one of the types that may skip generations that Ron was talking about. Not sure yet. In the meantime, I am still trying.

I did get 'Plum Frost' from three different vines last year and once again tagged the seeds to grow again this year to see what they do.

Here is one of the Blooms from the Original 'Plum Frost'

Emma

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Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

This is a Bloom from last year that was 'almost' Plum Frost...

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Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

And another that was 'Almost' Plum Frost.
Totally different Vine,
but the 'FROST', just isn't quite there.

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Clatskanie, OR(Zone 9b)

These are all beautful, and not as boring as an inbred and stable variety. Keep this up. Frank

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

This is another picture of the same purple rayed blizzard pattern vine after 4 more weeks. The blizzard progressed to more white over time so that no two flowers on the vine are ever,ever the same. And thanks Emma for sharing your pictures. Your Plum Frost looks special and good luck getting results this year!



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