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bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 11, 2004
11:17 AM

Post #750336

Where do you buy yours? I am taking the plunge. I have looked on the Eons site, any more out there? I like the look of the copper ones but they are so high!
poppysue
Westbrook, ME
(Zone 5a)


January 11, 2004
11:34 AM

Post #750341

The Everlast label company http://www.everlastlabel.com/
Pardancanda
"down the Shore", NJ
(Zone 7a)

January 11, 2004
9:00 PM

Post #750702

I am thinking of ordering from Everlast (PawPaw) myself. I think the rose marker ones look best, anyone try them? Also, I have a dymo label-maker, think that will work?

Thanks for asking, bluegrass, and for the link, poppysue!
poppysue
Westbrook, ME
(Zone 5a)


January 11, 2004
9:30 PM

Post #750715

Which Dymo, John? I think it's the Dymo100 and up that are good for plant labels. They need the special tape for outdoor use. I had a Dymo and it did very well but the thing started acting up after a year or so. Certain letters would not come out or they would print an entirely different letter.

I just got a new P-Touch label maker last fall and so far it seems to be working great. You can also use pencil or a china marker on the galvanized labels. I think the permanent markers hold better on them than plastic too. I use the "C" cap style markers. Those and the rose markers are great for daylilies. The single staff markers are the worst.
Wandasflowers
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 13, 2004
2:08 PM

Post #751950

I use the rose markers for my daylilies. They're tall enought to see when the daylilies get full. I use a dark "autograph" pen that stays well. I need the big , dark letters for my old eyes.
IndaShade
Kylertown, PA
(Zone 5b)

January 14, 2004
4:45 PM

Post #752927

I dunno- I like Eon rose markers. They are the cheapest that I have found, and the way I go through them, that's a GOOD thing!

I use a black paint pen on them, and it weathers just fine.
Pardancanda
"down the Shore", NJ
(Zone 7a)

January 14, 2004
6:25 PM

Post #753013

Thanks for the information. My Dymo is just called Office-Mate II, and I did not know about the outdoor tape.

Eon sounded fine also, I think those were the ones from the co-op.
Kelli
L.A. (Canoga Park), CA
(Zone 10a)

January 14, 2004
6:37 PM

Post #753038

I've been using zinc markers for several years and am very happy with them. I write on them with a regular "lead" pencil and the writing doesn't fade or wear off. It's not nearly as dark as magic marker but it's fine with me. The graphite of the "lead" causes the zinc to corrode a little and that etches the writing shallowly into the zinc.
Pardancanda
"down the Shore", NJ
(Zone 7a)

January 14, 2004
9:37 PM

Post #753170

Excellent... Thanks, Kelli.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 18, 2004
3:05 AM

Post #756054

One lady had mentioned to always write on the underside too. It gets less sun and rain and the writing will last longer.
Teresa
Ponditis
Payette, ID
(Zone 7a)

January 18, 2004
4:18 AM

Post #756088

I label mine too where they go under the soil as that area seems to last pretty well.
kathy_ann
Judsonia, AR
(Zone 7b)

January 24, 2004
3:25 AM

Post #761594

I use the zink plant labels from everlast, the cap labels. and I have a ptouch 550 and use the clear tape with black ink, I've tried a permenant marker and a paint pen both don't last in the sun. someone told me the clear tape with black ink holds up in the sun, so I'm trying this this year.

kathy_ann
Wandasflowers
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2004
12:35 PM

Post #763529

I was to a gardening symposium over the weekend. The lady uses AVERY weatherproof labels & a computer printer on metal stakes! She says they've stayed for 2.5 years now. She also reccommended the Martha Stewart garden marker from KMART.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 26, 2004
2:48 PM

Post #763681

Thanks, Wanda I will check out the ones at KMart too.
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)

February 22, 2004
10:19 PM

Post #788765

PoppySue is right...

http://www.everlastlabel.com/catalog.htm

has some great rose markers with extra tall stakes.

On the link above, have a look at choice F,
which is called the Double Wire Standard.
It is a tall display marker which the company
itself advises for daylilies.

30...$20.20 (.67 each)
100..36.25 (.36 each)
1000...281.50 (.28 each)

21" tall zinc nameplate is 1 1/4" x 3 1/2".
I prefer to use the Avery Weatherproof labels in
addition to the zinc markers.

You can print the labels on your computer,
typing nice and neat, several lines to include
all the information needed.

After you've typed your info, just print and stick them
on a nice clean marker. Wa-la!

The labels are:

Avery WeatherProof White Labels #5520.
They are 1" x 2 5/8".
From my source, the stickers run .03 each.
They come 30 labels per sheet, 50 sheets.
You can also use them for address labels,
pot labels, etc.

Combining the two averages out to about .39 each,
too bad you can't order just what you need, though.

The way I look at it, the labels last for years,
the stickers make them nice and neat, easily read,
clean, crisp and nice looking. Who knows, you may
one day be an AHS display garden.

:-)


Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

February 23, 2004
4:08 AM

Post #789078

Where do you get the Avery labels. I've got to do some more permanent labeling this year... that in itself is going to be a huge task!

Sounds like printing them on the computer would be the quickest, rather than hand writing all of them.
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)

February 23, 2004
1:22 PM

Post #789241

Hi Melissa,

I purchase all of my office supplies from:

http://www.vikingop.com

The item number is G08-5520A

Shipping is always free with orders over $25.00.
They have sales all the time and you get free stuff
when you purchase certain items, you just have to
scan the catalogs when they come to see if what you
use the most of is on sale or comes with a bonus.
I stock up when the price is right.

The last order I placed for these came to $50.38 for
1,500 labels.

Hope this helps!

:-) Wuvie


Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 10, 2004
4:09 PM

Post #834740

I am waffling between the avery labels and the dymo label maker. Anyone else want to weigh in on this before I decide?

I can't read a LOT of the labels just from last year... mini blinds, popsicle sticks with permanent marker, so I've got to do something else.
picturelady
San Jose, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 10, 2004
5:21 PM

Post #834803

I bought a Brothers P-touch 2500 pc labeler, during the winter. It does a great job making labels up to 1"...in your choice of colors. I get the labels from a fellow on e-bay, and they are much cheaper that way.
The labeler hooks up to the computer, so you can copy and paste info. onto it!
I really like it! Very permanent labels! that I put on the EOS, metal stakes.
dablaw
Murray, KY
(Zone 7a)

April 21, 2004
5:11 PM

Post #845561

Here are some markers I use. This is a ONE TIME MARKER!! Made of a plasctic used for signs, I engrave them then write in the engraved area with a paint pen. I use solid core plastic coated clothesline wire for the stakes. One woman I know has used these for 10+ years and they look as good as mine do still to this day. This will be the last marker you'll ever have to use. That in it's self is worth alot.

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dablaw
Murray, KY
(Zone 7a)

April 21, 2004
5:12 PM

Post #845563

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dablaw
Murray, KY
(Zone 7a)

April 21, 2004
5:15 PM

Post #845565

The thing I like most about them is that they don't stick out like a sore thumb. They get lost in the foliage quite well so as not to detract from the plant. And tough!! I clamped one in a vise at work and started putting pressure on it and never did break just sort of bent over. Very durable.
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 21, 2004
6:55 PM

Post #845648

Where do you get the plastic at? I like the look of those, I"d probably like the price a lot better too.
dablaw
Murray, KY
(Zone 7a)

April 21, 2004
7:19 PM

Post #845669

The lady that introduced me to them lives in Paducah,Ky. Her nephew is a sign maker and sells wholesale. This stuff is high. It's 15.00 per sheet 24"x18". I can get 84 out of a sheet and there is a 10 sheet minimum. Be better off to go to a local sign maker and see if they carry it. Not sure what type of plastic it is but is easy to work with. The wire is available at Lowes or probably Home Depot as well. It's a 100' roll so I can get 100 out of a roll at $7.00 per roll. I figure I have 24 cents each in them and I'll never have to do it again. I'll see what I can find out about it next time I see her.
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 21, 2004
9:38 PM

Post #845804

Please do, even if I have to buy the 10 sheets, it would still be cheaper in the long run than the Zinc markers.

Thanks David
Tammylp
Lima, OH
(Zone 5b)

April 2, 2006
9:55 PM

Post #2158401

Now it's 2006 - any new recommendations for zink markers other than Paw Paw Everlast Label Co. or EON. Paw Paw seems cheapest with their free shipping.
Debsroots
Northwest, MO
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2006
10:32 PM

Post #2158472

I ordered 1000 from Paw Paw of style E and received them within a week of ordering.
notmartha
Bay City, MI
(Zone 6a)

April 2, 2006
11:51 PM

Post #2158681

maybe a marker co-op again!!!! ;)
vossner
Richmond, TX
(Zone 9a)

April 3, 2006
12:00 AM

Post #2158704

I bought 100 from everlast label, size E to use with DLs and have been extremely happy. Use a P-touch labeler, then spray with clear varnish and they seem to last quite well. However, my neighbor has a HUGE dog, and when he or my Lab trample thru my gardens, the metal plates get bent easily from their stepping on them. No big deal as they are easy to straighten out.

However, I would be interested in somebody posting whether the EON brand is a stronger gauge metal. Having said that, if price difference is much, I would stay with Everlast Labels, because, as I said, the everlast metal plates are easy to reshape if bent. Just making an observation.
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 3, 2006
4:24 AM

Post #2159358

I think Cheryl did the co op with Everlast didn't she? With pawpaw it's so easy for a couple of people to go together to buy the markers, 500 markers fit perfectly in a flat rate box! ;0) If you get a 1000 you end up paying like 23 cents each for them.

I agree with Vossner, they do bend easily, but, they easily bend back to shape too. I don't know that I have any of the everlast markers to compare them to the pawpaw labels.

Hmmm I need a few hundred more, might not be a bad idea for a small co op.

This message was edited Apr 3, 2006 12:25 AM
Tree_Climber
Brown City, MI
(Zone 5a)

April 3, 2006
3:53 PM

Post #2160042

Melissa ... believe it or not, I'm ready to order again too. LOL
IndaShade
Kylertown, PA
(Zone 5b)

April 4, 2006
1:28 AM

Post #2161430

I can't believe how fast I go through these metal markers!
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
2:13 AM

Post #2161531

Yes, I know, and I plan on using them in the vegie garden this year too, just to help keep things straight. My "regular" splitter and I only need 800 between us. Should I post in the co op forum, or just ask here if anyone needs to pick up some.

I did email them, and anything over 1000 is still the 23.95 per hundred price, meaning if someone else wanted to go with us and get 300, we wouldn't have to go all the way to 2000 to get another price break.

vossner
Richmond, TX
(Zone 9a)

April 4, 2006
2:18 AM

Post #2161544

I might be interested in 100 if numbers work. so it would be $23.95 shipped to you, plus postage to me, right. Unless it's shipped to me parcel post, cheapest, seems like this is pretty close to me buying directly from them. Is that right?
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
2:32 AM

Post #2161586

I'd do the flat rate box, so it would be 8.10 shipping, or total of 32.05. It costs 33.40 to buy from them, so yep, basically the same thing. Now, 200 from our split would be 56.00, and from PawPaw direct it would be 66.80, so a decent savings there.
vossner
Richmond, TX
(Zone 9a)

April 4, 2006
2:36 AM

Post #2161604

thanks melissa. I guess I will pass. getting at least 200 makes this worthwhile, but I don't need that many.
TuddyE
Georgetown, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 4, 2006
4:41 PM

Post #2162988

I just ordered another 300 from Eon this morning. Dawn at Eon said their plates are a little thicker than Everlast. I had asked about a co-op for markers to get the discount, but only one person said anything. If interested her phone is [419]533-4961.
Everlast only takes snail mail and e-mail orders. I will not leave my charge number in an unsecured e-mail, [I'd rather give it to a person], and snail mail is to slow.
I will get my order by Thursday this way, I don't know how long Everlast would take. I bought several hundred last year, and I think I got a good deal since they are like new after this winter.
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
7:25 PM

Post #2163461

The times that I've ordered, the turn around has been really quick from Everlast. Normally less than a week from me sending the check to the markers arriving.
sadie_mae
Central, KY
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
7:37 PM

Post #2163500

From Everlast, I've gotten my order by Friday, when mailed on Monday...they're very fast.

TuddyE - how much was the shipping for 300 markers, with Eon?
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
8:07 PM

Post #2163597

For this area, Eon charges 8.75 per hundred I think.

I think I'll go ahead and post a small co op in case anyone is interested in them that isn't watching this thread. :-)


This message was edited Apr 4, 2006 4:09 PM
sadie_mae
Central, KY
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
8:20 PM

Post #2163625

Melissa,
Are you doing one thru Everlast? Is there a better price break for over 1000? Just wondering because, until today, I've never ordered in that quantity and I just mailed an order for 1000, that a friend and I are going to split.
Vicki
irisluvr0252
Lafayette, IN
(Zone 5a)

April 4, 2006
8:26 PM

Post #2163634

I would be interested in ordering some if you are going to do a co-op.
se_eds
Millersburg, PA
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
10:36 PM

Post #2163877

I, too would be interested in 100 labels if they are the ones that the wires go down thru the name plate/ Do you have a picture?
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 5, 2006
2:46 AM

Post #2164546

Vicki, yes, I'll do one through everlast, and no, there aren't any additional price breaks after 1000 I had class tonight, but I'll write something up and get it posted.

Yes, these are the ones Zinc name plates, wire that goes down through and holds the plates. I think 11.5 inches tall.
irisluvr0252
Lafayette, IN
(Zone 5a)

April 25, 2006
4:01 PM

Post #2219596

I hope I haven't missed this co-op! Just wanted to make sure.
notmartha
Bay City, MI
(Zone 6a)

April 25, 2006
4:52 PM

Post #2219717

no i havent seen one for markers
irisluvr0252
Lafayette, IN
(Zone 5a)

April 25, 2006
5:21 PM

Post #2219823

Good! I didn't want to miss out on it! I need to get new markers up for the daylilies and iris so THEY remember who THEY are!

Deb
bluektodd
Hillsdale, MI
(Zone 5b)

April 25, 2006
6:18 PM

Post #2220014

I used the all weather labels and they do work well and can put all the info on them but I got lazy with typing and printing so far these labels have lasted 3 years in my garden only a few are showing signs of the edges breaking away and I think that was wasps. I use the metal tags bought on the LA and paint markers those last forever I think also pencil on plastic sunk in the ground I've had some of those here for 10 years plus. I also keep maps just in case and I've actually surprised myself and have been good about keeping them up. On occasion a dog, kid, goose, or duck can knock one off then the map is really helpful.
Kim
irisluvr0252
Lafayette, IN
(Zone 5a)

April 25, 2006
6:27 PM

Post #2220039

Yes, the maps are helpful! I had one for my gardens when I lived in WV. I haven't made a map of my gardens here yet. I keep moving things around! Once I figure out where they will stay, I will do the map! I re-marked the plastic tags I have on the daylilies on Saturday, which will help. But I really NEED to do the metal markers with the labels. Thanks!
sarv48
south of Grand Rapid, MI
(Zone 5a)

April 25, 2006
7:13 PM

Post #2220151

I got some from 2 co-ops here- one was a much nicer than the other (of course I can't remember who I got them from) anyhow - the nice ones were a heavier gauge and had rounded corners - the other ones were thinner and bend easily and had square (sharp) corners!

But I tell ya, I wouldn't be without them!!
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2006
12:19 AM

Post #2221094

Does anyone need more markers? I do. I wish we could have a co-op on these again.
mgh
Willamette Valley, OR
(Zone 8a)

April 26, 2006
1:01 AM

Post #2221237

organize one! LOL
Melissa_Ohio
Southwestern, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 26, 2006
1:51 AM

Post #2221414

I'm planning a small one, but it won't be for a week or two.
irisluvr0252
Lafayette, IN
(Zone 5a)

April 26, 2006
1:55 AM

Post #2221424

I am in need of markers also and don't want to miss the co-op!
Ponditis
Payette, ID
(Zone 7a)

April 26, 2006
7:22 AM

Post #2222279

I am trying to find the copper ones so would appreciate if someone knows a website for those? . The zinc ones don't last. They corrode within about three years.
Eglantyne
Gardiner, ME
(Zone 5a)

April 26, 2006
12:29 PM

Post #2222587

Ponditis,
Great idea,I made some of copper years ago because like you said the zink ones don't last .

I did join the markers co-op last time .

But have sprayed my zink ones as of 2004 with darkgreen paint and that seems to help.Am using a labeler with white 3/4" labels.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2006
2:57 PM

Post #2223075

Good, Melissa I will be watching the co-op forum.
TuddyE
Georgetown, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2006
3:50 PM

Post #2223220

I just read sarv48 's post. My order from Eon was about $138 for 300 of the 20'', plus 100 extra plates--to replace those that get nasty. This includes shipping, but no tax since I don't live in Ohio. These are the heavier gauge [ or so I've been told ] with rounded corners. There are quantity discounts, and discounts if you have a business [tax id required]. I have only used these for 2 yrs, so I can't say how long they last, but they are zinc.
Park/Wayside sell their copper ones, but they turn green and crusty, so I'm not sure if that's what you want. I find they bend too easily and look terrible after one season. I guess you could spray them with something to protect them? Just thought I'd let you know.
zeoplum
Mobile, AL
(Zone 8b)

June 8, 2007
5:46 AM

Post #3589876

So if both the zinc and the copper ones corrode, is there a better option?

(Since this is an old and long thread that I'm digging up, I'll tell you that you only have to read that last four comments above mine to see what I'm referring to)
Jazzpunkin
Springfield, OH
(Zone 5b)

June 8, 2007
1:41 PM

Post #3590516

LOL.. Glad you said something Zeo. I was about to go check the co-ops..lol..I was wondering how the thread got so long so fast! lol
Kydaylilylady
Waddy, KY

June 8, 2007
3:52 PM

Post #3591098

I got 1000 mini markers from Paw Paw this spring and I'm planning on dipping the marker legs in diluted Plasti-dip to see if that will help keep the legs from corroding. It might be another one of those fruitless tasks that we take on and wonder later why we spent the money but we'll see. I'll let you know how it goes.

Janet
gen2026
Camden, AR

March 11, 2008
3:48 PM

Post #4650539

I am new to Gardening and see there has been a lot of discussion over markers - I am overwhelmed and not sure where to start... suggestions? Will there be any coops on markers this year?
Thanks
MollyD1953
Columbia, TN
(Zone 7b)

March 11, 2008
9:30 PM

Post #4651590

gen2026,

If you look in the coop forum you'll find an EON co op running right now till March 14th

MollyD
Hyblaean
Niles, IL
(Zone 5b)

March 12, 2008
11:43 PM

Post #4656064

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/810287/
just doing my part as an fellow enabler ;)

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