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henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

January 11, 2004
5:39 PM

Post #750559

Another of the tenant leavings. LOL
Sorry about all these but non-thorny succulents aren't my forti or passion. LOL
Though that is slowly changing.

Ric

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MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

January 11, 2004
10:19 PM

Post #750736

Graptoveria http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Crassulaceae/Graptoveria_hybrid.html
henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

January 12, 2004
12:45 AM

Post #750847

Thank you MVR.
I've been dancing around looking forever for that one.
I knew I'd seen it before! I just wasn't thinking hybrid.

Thanks
Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA

January 12, 2004
12:47 AM

Post #750851

I going to make a guess, it could be an Echevieria, 'Lola'
perhaps, but I still have another that looks more like it. I went outside just now to find the name, I'm sorry it is lost. Is it lavander in color, if so then I will know what it is, and will even be able to know the parents?
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

January 12, 2004
1:19 AM

Post #750887

Norma, E.'Lola' is whitish to silverish in petal color http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Crassulaceae/Echeveria_Lola.html , not lavender... no offense but it is totally different from the above variety. i have a Graptoveria Opalina which is purplish in the edges of the the petal tip.
Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA

January 12, 2004
4:22 AM

Post #751011

MVR it's a perfectg match. I really thought it was an Echeveria, good catch. Norma
henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

January 25, 2004
3:46 PM

Post #762718

As per everyones advice here I've ramped up the light.
Here's a shot taken last night.
Quite a difference.

Ric

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Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA

February 1, 2004
5:02 PM

Post #769609

Could this possibly be gratopetalum paraguayense? there are two colors of these.
I do have 'Lola' in my collection. Small leaves close and tightly formed in a rose. It has red tips coming to a point. Mine is a pale, pastel blue green. the leaves are cordate being very wide and the tip and very narrow at the base. Elongnating as they grow and start to turn down when ready to be removed. It certainly not my 'Lola' I think MVR is right. It also not XGraptoveria 'Opalina' I have a picture of the in front of me/ The Graptoveria have very plumb leaves. but the Graptopetalum paraguayense does not, if you waant a full description I have it in front of me and can reproduce it for you. X Graptoveria 'Opalina' is one of the many choice Echeveria hyubrids produced by Robert Grim of San Jose, CA I also have a full description of this plant, including the parents names. Now which one do you think you have? I sure would like to know. This in formation was obtained from Dry Climate Gardening with succulents, Huntington Botanical Gardens.
Lets see the flowers, it is about to flower soon, some of mine are still in flower at this time.
Norma

Norma
henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

February 1, 2004
6:42 PM

Post #769726

Norma,
That Graptopetalum paraguayense looks the closest I've seen to my plant.
Especially the one on Desert Tropicals' site.
I'll have to search that one a little more.
Thanks!
Ric
Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA

February 3, 2004
1:21 AM

Post #770918

The Graptopetalum comes in two colors, one is called 'Gray Ghost' the other ? They grow tight when given full sun, and take on good colors.
Each color species having it's own name. I just have a hunch, I must look it up before I say a word. Well off to the books again. Norma
Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA

February 7, 2004
2:33 AM

Post #774518

I think the gray grapopetelum is more common. If I have the time I will loook up the name of the other (pink) paraguaynsis (spelling) Norma
Degarotty
North Ipswich, Qld
Australia

July 16, 2009
12:58 AM

Post #6824617

Hi Guys,

I am also looking for an ID for this plant that I think looks exactly like the first picture.

Anybody agree with me?

So what did we decide on for the ID of the first plant?

Debi

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themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

July 16, 2009
1:05 AM

Post #6824642

I think they finally decided it was Graptophyllum, possibly Gray ghost. If not, then it was Graptoveria.
Degarotty
North Ipswich, Qld
Australia

July 16, 2009
2:26 AM

Post #6824964

Hi,

I forgot to tell you what mine had written on the tag.

"Graptopetalum subspecies supergum"

Debi

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

July 16, 2009
4:45 AM

Post #6825426

My bad, GRAPTOPETALUM, not phyllum...that's what I get for trying to multi-task..grin.

How far is West Ipswich from Brisbane? My daughter is in the Northgate area of Brisbane.

Jean
Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA

July 16, 2009
6:03 AM

Post #6825528

Rick it's in bad shape, but I think perhaps it may be a Graptopetleum, 'Super Bum' ? found by Myron Kimnach and introduced by the Huntington ISI Introductions. I'll try and find mine and see if I have the ISI number. Keep your hands off of it and it should develope a bloom, like a plum or grape. The color should be lavander. Found it but no label, Sorry I couldn't do better. I know the spelling isn't right, but the wrist hurts too to much to correct it now. Norma

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Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA

July 16, 2009
6:06 AM

Post #6825532

In 1904 I thought the plant was 'Lola' now I don't believe it is. Norma
Degarotty
North Ipswich, Qld
Australia

July 16, 2009
7:27 AM

Post #6825591

Hi Guys,

Looking at the label now it is "superbum", I didn't think there was such a name with BUM in it. lol.

So, can I safely say mine is a "GRAPTOPETALUM SUBSPECIES SUPERBUM"?

So would I say it is a "Graptopetalum superbum"? Or do I have to have the "subspecies" in there?

Debi
P.S. Northgate is about 1 hour from West Ipswich.

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seedpicker_TX
(Taylor) Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2009
1:09 AM

Post #6828728

if you just say graptopetalum superbum, it would indicate that superbum is a hybrid name, instead of a subspecies, wouldn't it?
Degarotty
North Ipswich, Qld
Australia

July 17, 2009
8:09 AM

Post #6829767

Hey SP,

I am still learning about writing the correct names.

Just in case I do a swap, I like to have the correct name.

Thanks All,

Debi
seedpicker_TX
(Taylor) Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2009
1:25 PM

Post #6830214

Debi-
I'm sure you can call it that, and the trader will google it, and certainly find the plant.

I was just being ultra technical...don't mind me :0)
cactusloverlady
Menasha, WI

November 14, 2009
4:08 PM

Post #7273322

Hello everyone, I'm new to Dave's Garden Forum. I have many cacti and succulents in my south and east facing windows. They get me through the long winters here. It'll be nice to talk to someone about my plant passion. Diane
henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

November 14, 2009
5:51 PM

Post #7273569

Pleasure to meet you Diane and welcome to Dave's!
I'll start an introduction thread for you and you can meet the gang.

Ric
henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

November 14, 2009
5:55 PM

Post #7273584

Diane please click this link and introduce yourself.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1056067/

Ric
thistlesifter
Vista, CA

December 9, 2009
11:36 PM

Post #7353425

Graptopetalum superbum:>) here is an image captured from Palm Bob's collection.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/137156/

link doesn't work!! oh well maybe if you copy into your address line above it will work.

Cheers!

thistlesifter
Bob:>)



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henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
2:42 AM

Post #7354040

Thanks BOB!

If it's from Palm Bob it has to be Correct.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 10, 2009
2:56 AM

Post #7354094

not true!! I make mistakes all the time
henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
3:00 AM

Post #7354102

Shhhhh I'm talking you up... LOL!
Yes as we all do ...but honest mistakes PB and you always fix them in my experience.

Thanks '2 Bobs'!
(Which by the way is the name of a bar I used to frequent)
tervherd
Lima, OH

December 10, 2009
10:59 AM

Post #7354637

The color is absolutely GORGEOUS! Sigh...too many beautiful plants and too little time and space...sigh.

Sharon

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