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Old Reliable

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

We bought this Troybilt tiller used in 1989. Only thing we have had to do to it was to put on new tines a few times.
Regular maintance has kept her running. Still starts on one or two pulls.
Very easy to operate, one hand guides it down the field.
We don't use it as much now, because we have farm tractors & machines.
I would recommend this tiller to anyone.
Bernie

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Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

Bernie, I have a Troybilt...love it!

Altho I also have a big tractor (J.Deere) and an antique Gravely I'll hang on to my Troy. All those machines have their place here; each one does it's own special job that the others can't do.

(We should charge Troybilt for the advertising, eh??) :>)

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

I wonder if the ones now are built as good as these older ones. Some company bought out Troybilt or they merged or something a few years ago.
Hey, we finally got some rain last night. Took winds of about 40-60 MPH all day to brew it up. Couple of nasty storms around the state, but no major damage or injury.
Amazing how all those weeds can sprout in a couple of hours after a rain! Old Troybilt will see some action in a few days!
Bernie

Everson, WA(Zone 8a)

Bernie my horse is an 81 I spent 400 bucks on a new engine last summer it is undoubtably the machine that comes closest to doing everything they say it will.

I can't say as much for the two I bought and returned three weeks ago. I tried to buy a small one to weed with but I was just not impressed by the new troys. Ernie

Shoe I don't think they would pay me for what I have to say about the new small troys. Ernie

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Humansville, MO(Zone 6a)

I was looking at one that was 2 or 3 years old last sat. there about the same they have put a clutch to the tines and are using a 7 horse briggs the engine won't be as good at least in my opion If the clutch holds up they look good over all
This was the horse what lowes are selling i woudn't take out of the store I got one that is an 70's or 80 something it needs a new engine still works but you need to check the gas and fill the oil
Dave719

Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

yeh...I believe Troy was bought out by MTD (seems like everything is MTD nowadays).

Mine is the Horse model, about 11 years old, doing just fine!

Dave, "check the gas and fill the oil"!...Hehehe, I used to have a car just like that!

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

Mine has an 8 HP Kohler. You can buy a replacement at
www.northerntool.com


Edited with Model # 6008-1405
Sells for $674.99
Bernie

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Humansville, MO(Zone 6a)

Thats the engine 've been saving my pennys for my grandfather had one with the kohler on it was 30 yrs. old when he sold it still ran like new and our garden was well over an acre and that was all we ever used

Everson, WA(Zone 8a)

Kohlers are superior engines to briggs and because the are just built to last they have cast iron sleeves and the crank runs on real bearings.

Shoe is right about fill the oil I didn't fill the oil in my 81 and I either broke the rod or maybe the crank so I replaced it with a throw away for $400 late this summer if its the rod I can rebuild it for $50 not sure if it is worth fixing if its the crank as well.

Could be new style industrial briggs are a lot better than they use to be Ernie

Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

I'm a die-hard Briggs man. I've always preferred them over Tecumseh but can't honestly remember ever having a Kohler so really can't compare to them.

You're right, ernie, Briggs has been making theirs w/cast iron sleeves for quite some time now. Not sure about the crank, will have to quiz our local Briggs experts.

San Jacinto County, TX(Zone 8a)

I got my "horse" late 1990, sort of a christmas present.
Its actually a 1991, been great all these years!
The motor still works jus fine except the tines have started to slip.
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The wheels turn and pull but when you ingage the tines they slip and won't dig.
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Any ideas would be appreciated.
thank ye in advance

Humansville, MO(Zone 6a)

Is that the new style with the clutch if it is,that is where i would start looking

Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

Charlie...that sounds more like your belt needs adjusting or replacing.

When you put the load to it and the tines hang up like that you'll need to tighten the belt. You should have a manual that tells you how, plus a belt adjustment tool. It's fairly easy.

Linden, TN

I bought a Troy in 1986 and used it heavily for 8 years and then we sold that farm and moved to a small large home with a small lot...(big mistake !!). We have since moved to a larger parcel of land, 7 acres +, and a smaller home. I had sold my Troy to a friend of ours....another mistake, but this one is okay, because he just now sold it back to me yesterday !! I had gotten a Mantis for my small garden...well that dude is okay, but not for this Tennessee clay and rock mixture. I used my old friend Troy last evening...and it sure acted like he was happy to be home again...lol

I won't let him go now for nuttin'.

Carolyn

Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

Hah!...what a great post! A big hearty welcome to DG, lindenlady!

Come on in and set a spell! Keep us posted on your new garden and home!

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

Well old reliable is down for a while. The carberator is like wore out. A screw came out of the butterfly, got in the combustion chamber & wreaked the piston. Got all that fixed, works fine. Now the shaft the butterfly is on broke, so we are getting that fixed. Maybe 20 years or so wears on the mechanical stuff!
Bernie

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Sigh. Even though I have no place to use it right now, I sure wish I still had my old 1980 Horse with the Kohler cast iron engine.

Everson, WA(Zone 8a)

Darius I have two both Kohlers died but you are welcome run one of these here lol. Ernie

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Thank you very much, Ernie. When I feel the need for a working vacation, I shall take you up on the offer!

Everson, WA(Zone 8a)

Ok will even let you run the one with the newest engine. Ernie

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

Old reliable is in hospital!
Seems the carbuator wore out. The parts moved to many times.
Will be back in action shortly.
Bernie

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

New carb, new piston, shortage of $378.00, she's back in fine shape.
Still can do the same good work. Went up & back on a strip for onion sets, she left everything nice & soft. We don't use her much anymore, but sure is handy to have around.
Bernie

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

Had to replace the head gasket this spring. 20 minutes & 10 bucks, not bad.
Still going strong.

Rocky Mount, VA(Zone 7a)

MTD - I have been fighting this "Lawn Tractor" (riding mower only) for over three months. Borrowed a push mower from my BIL cause I could not stand the yard anymore. Took two days and a lot of sweat, but it is cut.

I will fix the MTD or I will invite you all to the bonfire. At this point, I would await invitations quicker than holding my breath.

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

MTD, I love them. Bought a rider 9 or 10 years ago. finally wore it out end of 2006. It was $799 when we bought it new. Fall of 2006 we bought a new one for $1000. It's a little wider & more HP. Works great!

Rocky Mount, VA(Zone 7a)

Bernie, I know that that rider had to be stored indoors. Do not have that option at this time. It is true that I am rough, on equipment, vehicles, and most plants but most stuff lasts more than 3 years for me, and when it quits I can usually fix it in short order. This thing is one problem after another.

Thanks guys for letting me vent, the frustration has made it necessary.

Canyon Lake, TX(Zone 8b)

Speaking of Troybilt, how many of you remember Dick Raymond and his association with Troybilt?

His book, "Garden Way's, Joy of Gardening", has become by bible for gardening. The information in the book is as quality as is the Troybilt tiller.

Jerry

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

They also had a good cookbook, "Joy of Cooking".

NORTH CENTRAL, PA(Zone 5a)

Joy of Cooking has been reprinted. I passed a few out last Christmas. Agree it is one of the finest ever printed.

Everson, WA(Zone 8a)

Dod am Dmailing you my addy this xmas LOL.

Haskell, OK

I have 3 Troy's, Horse II, EconoHorse, and a Pony II.

If it ain't a Troy it ain't a tiller.

San Jacinto County, TX(Zone 8a)

Hi folks;
Got a reminder to renew my membership this morn, did so!

I forget sometimes how much i enjoy DG.
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Still have me 'ol Troy, almost wore out a set of tires on a 6300 Kubota also.

What prompted this post was Dick Raymond, joy of garden, Cooking etc.
An old post:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/512947/
Some might enjoy it.
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Sort of a little history on who we are: http://picasaweb.google.com/ccwade/Garden080705#
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If interested take a look.

Thanks

charlie

Canyon Lake, TX(Zone 8b)

Yeah Charlie, glad you decided to stay with DG.

"The Joy of Gardening" is my bible. Another gardening book I like is "Organic Vegetable Gardening", by Bob Percival.

Jerry

(Zone 5a)

I'm bumping this for everyone who is thinking about a tiller this year, like me.

So, any more advice on the Troys that are built these days? No pun intended, but there it is :o)

Sally

NORTH CENTRAL, PA(Zone 5a)

I used a Troy Built twice. The first and the last time. What I got was a seed bed ground down to smitherines, chopped up worms and a texture far to fine to be right. Two years ago when I was sick two friends with Troy Builts came in with all good intent to help me. They did and the results were exactly the same as my personal experience with one of the very early Troy Builts. Troy Built is more about mail order and credit than the finest machine on earth which they advertise.

If you feel you must till a good front end tiller will be a bit more difficult to use. If a good seed bed is what you want this is what you should use.

Today the thinking is no till. I would suggest you read every line of no till you can find and get into some kind of a permanent mulch program that will do a far better job for you. Save your money for some other nice back yard improvements. This program is right, always has been right and will remain right for all time.

I'm behind a tree. Go ahead and throw your stones if you wish. The tree will save me and drop a nice mulch this fall in spite of your throwing stones. LOL

(Zone 5a)

Docgipe, I couldn't hit you if I aimed real good! I've sort of no tilled the past few years. I know it ruins the soil structure, but DD has manure now and I want to turn large amounts in, in the fall, along with lime and leaves. I'm getting too old to shovel it all under like I used to.

My dirt is not clay or good loam. It turns well with a shovel and the clods break up, so it's sort of sandy. It isn't real high in humus because I haven't turned anything under for years.

My Dad's old tiller had the back tines. I don't know what brand he had, but it was like trying to turn a buffalo and about as hard to hang on to. He still has it so I haven't asked to borrow a tiller from him.

I like everyone's description of holding on with one hand.That's what I want. A smallish one. But I also want quality, and being able to walk into a store and buy one would be great too.

NORTH CENTRAL, PA(Zone 5a)

Did you ever consider renting one for a few years of serious soil building and then go back to your no-till?
I would suggest a cover crop and Mycorrhiza being added in the fall with your manures and leaves. Then in the very early spring till under the total and add another inch or so of fresh manure. Start your planting about a month later. Start thinking of five percent organic material in your soil. When you get there think about ten percent where the really outstanding volume and quality will be great.

Some gardens like yours get a really great improvement with the adding of trace minerals. You have sandy loam which is a classified soil type by most testing centers. Greensand either Eastern or Texas product, azromite from organic sites, Ironite from the big box stores. They are all just slightly different from each other. If you get serious use one and rotate into another for three or four years.

You are absolutely correct about turning a rear tine tiller being like turning a buffalo. It would likely be easier to get a donkey to sit down and offer to shake hands. They do not work well in small places. A front tine tiller will bounce you about and require two hands. Those other fellows lie about one hand on in the corn patch anyway. That is why I suggest renting. Don't listen to me or any other jake in a forum. I have not used a tiller during my last thirty five years of growing under one form or another of mulched gardening. Don't even own one today.

(Zone 5a)

I never thought about renting. We usually buy what we need. I'll do some reading and take all into consideration. I don't have a real large garden. I make compost too, but it's never enough. We eat a lot of our peelings, so coffee grounds are the main throw away around here. I crush the egg shells for the birds in the winter.

Quite a few years ago I had quack grass that over took the flower bed. I removed all the plants, dug and sorted each shovelful by hand to get all the roots out. I found a patch of rusty cinders in the soil and removed it while I was at it. I wish I had pictures, but that was before I got my digital camera. The dirt was dug a good 6'' deep. It then became another garden. Since then I haven't done more than than turn a row, rake and plant.

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

It would be pretty hard to plant 13000 onion plants into hard ground! With the tiller the soil is nice & loose 8" deep.
I would like to see you weeding between the rows of beets & carrots. We usually plant 7 or 8 rows 300 feet long. Takes nearly 1 hour to go through with the tiller. We have it set so it throws a bit of soil into the row & that smothers small weeds.
Most of our garden we go after with our tractor & big equipment.

(Zone 5a)

Country, sounds like perfect dirt for carrots and I like the idea of weeding between the rows quicker, (in my small area,) too. I'm sitting here looking at chickweed slowly taking over the half of the garden I've done nothing with yet.

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