Anyone have this wonderful nana? I know it would be way too much to hope for a start of this expensive plant but I was just curious if anyone has given it a try and what kind of success they were finding with it. I am thinking of purchasing a pup (expensive as all get out) from a supplier online but wanted to see if there were any pitfalls I needed to watch for with this var. Thanks.
Yeah, I know, I have found pups as low as $100 but just know if I wait a year or so they will be on Ebay for 9.99 lol. Only reason they are so high right now is that they have been made available to us common folk for the first time this year. Was exclusive cultivar to the royal family in Hawaii up to this year. I cant help myself but to want one. I wonder if they throw pups with as much gusto as other Musa's?
Thanks for the info Buried - I really wish people would not post to a website unless they knew what they was talking about. I read on two pretty large musa sights about the royal family thing but know from your other posts and just seeing you around on here that you definately know your trops. Sorry all for the one year only info - was just passin on what I had read on sites that should know.
Have you grown any of these BT? Attempted any propagation? Would love to hear about your experiences since its obvious you know this Musa well.
Actually - has ANYONE propagated this at all? Would love to hear about it. If I get one I definately want to propagate so I have a good chance of keeping at least one going.
My friend has one, she said it's put out one pup in three years but she was afraid to take the pup off. I read that when AeAe is TC'ed, it comes out all white or all green most of the time. We know the all white ones won't live and who wants to pay a hundred bucks for a green one?
We have two clumps of this banana...growing in full sun and they really are easy to grow...here. To get a pup off the Mother Stalk you really have to kill the Mother Stalk because it grows so tightly next to it. If you wait until the Mother dies back after producing, the pup is HUGE. I tried twice to send a pup to a friend and they didn't life. Then I found a TC'd one at the market and sent it on...I know it living for a year but lost track of her so I don't know if it is growing still.
It was the banana reserved for the Hawaiian Royalty...
Our soil is slightly acid and we fertilize the bananas with 10-5-40...and let the stalks/leaves rot in place at the roots of the living bananas for nourishment. Hard to do in a small garden!
I haven't tried any my self, but have kept up with it through the labs. My expensive plant indulgence for now is Amorphophallus. I purchased an A. titanum earlier this year, that was about the size of a raisin, and nearly as expensive as the Ae Ae. In just 10 short years, I hope to have a very large, smelly flower.
Cala's 100% correct. Very few coming from TC, will have the variegation that's desired. Most of them are green or white. I doubt that will keep them from continuing to try, but at the 3 year mark, they should be seeing some progress, and aren't.
Even if they were to figure it out tomorrow, it's another 2-3 years before they have the numbers to make them available to commercial growers, and add another year of production for a 3 gallon. I don't think you're going to see the price drop on these any time soon.
Fivelabs, these have been available in Calif for more than 8 years.They sold at the nurseries for $75.00 for a 25 gal pot.7 ft tall.Mine died.it is a rather touchy grower.Our big plant had about 20 pups...but since they only activate 1 per cycle, we could'nt get many to grow.Stuttgart cannas are just as pretty and cheaper. LOL
Kyle.. I was thinking that your nanner reminded me of Stuttgart when I first looked at it... imagine my surprise as I continued to read the thread and found you posted a pic of the canna... Yes.. much cheaper and lots easier!
I just may be one of the "friends" Calla is referring. Carol sent me 3 AeAe nanas and I killed the first 2...and they were long, painful deaths. The third one she sent was propagated from tissue culture and other than an attack of spider mites last summer, It has grown by leaps and bounds. (Calla kept trying to steal it every time she visited my house)
I started fertilizing with miracid and once I used that routine, the plant has been happy. It is now 12' tall and I have no clue how I am going to overwinter it this year.
If you guys bight the bullet and buy one, make sure it is tissue culture rather than a pup AND be prepared to house a really large plant!
Calla, you better bring the horse trailor if you hope to steal it now!
Howdy Mel! Didn't know you were here! I can't believe your baby has grown so much! My friend here has a pup on hers that I've been threatening to steal(she won't let me in the garden alone for some reason), but if I came up there and got that 12 footer...BTW, Stuttgart is doing fine.
One of mine is from a pup cut from the mother...and it was nip and tuck for a long time...the pup was 6' tall when we cut it! I have a feeling that when they are TC'd you don't run the risk of transplanting them so large...or cutting them too young for the smaller size to ship.
I had one of these from Hawaii about four years ago. It came complete with a worm in the shaft which ate its way down into the corm before I discovered it. The last leaf came out looking like swiss cheese and the corm rotted. I was so upset that my beautiful, insanely expensive plant was so suddenly dead that I didn't replace it and took a year long break from bananas. Since then I've learned to inspect everything that comes and quarantine for safety. In retrospect I should have contacted the nursery I got it from, but now I'm unable to find the purchase information.
Anyway got any leads on a good source? Or any they want to try trading (I've got things like variegated monsteras and amorphophallus varieties -no, not titanum like buriedtreasures'). :)
Here is my 2cents.
This particular banana does not like as much water as the rest. If you keep it in a pot of any sort, it should have bigger than normal drainage, and more drainable soil than normal. Key is dry by the end of the day, does not like wet feet. This is my experience, and others may have different experience..but they rot from the inside out, and it will trick you into think it's fine..at the top while it's dying at the stock. Drain Drain Drain...can't say it enough.
Sorry, I'm not saying it likes a dryer climate. It likes humid air, but well drained area's. Most folks keep it in plastic pots, where it does not dry out appropriately. I had mine in a location that did not drain as well, and it was suffering for it. Moved it adjacent 3 feet, to a special bed I had built for it last year that was specifically designed for super drainage, and that was based on my other experiences with bananas here in this particular location..I say this because we have gumbo soil here so other places might have something different to work with.
This is the picture of the small bed I built. This summer I decided to put it in the bed behind it, but it did not approve. It didn't like to be too moist for too long. This particular mini bed drys out completely at the days end, and it seems to like it. Same expereince with a friends Ae down the street. His Ae started looking poorly, and I told him about my experience with the water, so he changed the watering habit, letting it dry out completely every day. The banana recovered and is producing it's second pup.
LOL..exactly. I tell you, the most successful banana bunches I have are located in areas I don't do anything to them including watering. In fact, the less I do, the more they like it, which is completely contrary to stuff I read.
Where did you get yours, RJ? It sure brightens your landscape. I hope it continues to do great for you!
I wonder that since they are tissue culturing them, why are they so hard to find and so expensive??
Did you all see Mels? RJ yours is well on it sway. Such a beautiful sight! This is what true delight is about! When I first saw this picture, I gasped. I know Mel well. I was so jealous. Instantly! Since, the sweetheart she is, she has given this plant to a friend who is sick. It still is causing sheer delight!
they are pricey too. I bought 3 from 3 diff. sources, including a guy from Thailand. I have definitely given up on these. I also had a regular green heliconia and killed that one too but I didn't care about that one.
Kell, I was reading about tissue culture, and apparently, you can't get a variegated one that way. They all end up either all green or all white.
I'll definitely watch the water. Mine will stay in a container since the only shade I have is near or against the house. I wonder if it can be acclimated to full sun. The sun isn't that scorching here. I planted the variegated rubber tree outside, and those leaves became acclimated. I wouldn't mind planting it with these other bananas below.
That Corymbia is awesome! I have been jealous that those will not grow in our summer rain & humidity areas. I am grafting onto a more tropical Eucalyptus to see if I can get it to grow here in Florida. The flowering is amazing!
You guys have been so busy while poor me has been outside putting up my coleus shelving. I am only 4 months late. I am getting to old for this. I really am.
Thanks for that info, Clare. So sad for that means no variegated bananas groves in my future. However, Mel said her variegated AeAe was from tissue culture so maybe some come out OK?
Too bad your avocado reverted to green. i was at a nursery the other day and they had a so cool variegated fig - - below. I just grab anything variegated.
Rj, your friends AeAe is too cool too. Mel used to put hers in the GH every winter and it did did fine. I think she made it go dormant.
Nery, I bet Rj has already looked up var. heliconia.. LOL. And has big plans for one. I got a green one to live 2 years now but it is miserable due to be still being in a gallon can. I abuse so many plants. Some day I will be arrested. I heard recently some group wants to give trees legal standing. I will be in such big trouble. Jail for sure unless they give you credit for your dreams and not penalize you for your reality.
Popper1, it sure brightens things up. I have seen rose colored ones too along the freeway, never safe enough to get a pic of one though.
Kell, you are so funny. You crack me up. I'm not sure about the tissue culture; I just read that in a couple of places, but who knows. I think it's propagated by the pups only, but I could be wrong. I'll give you my first pup, and you can start your grove from that one.
That fig is beautiful. I got a Semi-dwarf variegated Calamondin. I couldn't resist that one. I also bought a couple of different variegated adeniums. One of the adeniums is your kind of pink. The leaves are hard to see because they're folded right now.
Rj, that AeAe is beautiful. It looks like I'm putting up a greenhouse this coming winter!
Yes, I bet Randy is looking for a var. heliconia and if HE gets to grow one successfully, I'm gonna be green no, black green, with envy.
Kell, I got a var. fig "Panache" from Raintree Nursery and realized after the fact that only the fruit is variegated. Beautiful but I would have cared more about having var. foliage than var. fruit. Fruit is edible. BTW, I highly recommend Raintree. This fall I'm gonna get one of their 3-1 apple trees. They graft 3 compatible cultivars to one stock. Excelllent for small gardens. I have a large property but not a huge apple eater so that's why I'm getting one of these.
Clarey, two years ago somebody posted a var. avocado in GW. They didn't say how long they'd had, or if they'd fruited, etc.
Somebody in my area has a var. Valencia orange. ohhhhh. He doesn't have any for sale but I have him on my watch list. Seedpicker put me on to him.
I came across these two babies recently and, sadly I was only the go between, they are now living in two other DG gardens. The grower told me the biggest cause of rot is that they are unusually susceptible to a fungal problem they acquire from other bananas. He said to keep them separate.
He also told me they have had bad luck TC'ing the A'e A'e but that they have come up with a different cultivar with similar coloration and they are starting to TC that one. Not exactly the real thing but most of us wouldn't know the difference.
Kell, I liked that idea about wood ashes/lava; it makes sense to me.
Nery, I was wrong about the variegated avocado sport reverting back. The tip and a couple of branches are still variegated. I can see that a couple of leaves have burned below. I am definitely going to try to graft the branches when they get bigger. I don't think I would care if these didn't bear fruit because the leaves are just so pretty. It can't be in full sun either.
ALICE!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW COME YO DID NOT SEND ME THAT SO VARIEGATED ONE ON THE LEFT??? I am so crushed!! I can see my name all over it too.
How did you get to be a go between? Shoot, be my go between. I so need one.
WOW Sunshinesw, has that really spread that much so fast?
Funny last night after Rj talked about ashes, my husband was cleaning the barbeque and brought me a huge thing of ashes and asked if I wanted them spread in the garden. I so sadly said no for I did not have an AeAe banana. Poor me. LOL
Clare, that is so cool. I hope you get it to root and make a fortune on it. There is a nursery who specializes in growing variegated sports. They pay you for them. I wish I could remember its name.
LOL Kell, Now that I know where to get these babies I may have to go into the business.
The parent plant of those nanas throws pups of both color patterns and the creamier one will also throw the whiter pups and vice versa. The grower, who has had the parent plant for more than 15 years said it has never thown an all green pup. I was so overwhemed I forgot to take a picture of the nana mama.
About the Corymbia ficifolia; I have one now that is over 6 feet tall, about 1 1/2 years old from seed, growing fairly in a 3 gallon Air-Pot. It does much better in the winter when humidity is lower. I had more seedlings at first but lost many of them after a rapid, healthy start. From seed I was hoping I'd get one that could take the south Florida humidity better. So far, so good.
Mine hasn't flowered yet; I got the seeds from J. Hudson seedsman, although there are other suppliers of Eucalypti seeds out there. I was counting on natural variation in the seedlings to enable me to end up with a survivor or two that could thrive better in my climate. If I can get mine to flower and set seed, I will stand an even better chance of achieving that goal because of something called provenance, which is the conditions under which the plant that produces the seed is grown. If a plant that is marginally cold tolerant is grown at the edge of its range of cold tolerance and it sets seed, those seeds are more likely to yield cold tolerant plants than one which is grown in a warmer climate.
Yeah, there's been a few dumb husband moves since he's been working in the yard. He's broken off plumeria branches and stepped on my Michelia x albas. He even broken a plumeria in half when he threw something in the way back. Idiot. LOL! I told him that he gets points for honesty though so he comes to tell me when he's done something. Most of the time, I can tape up the break.
Bad Lari Ann for posting new items to test and buy!. Kell & I will be clicking and buying soon I'm sure!
Speaking of which, is there any news on that freeze spray? I keep looking on their website..but nada, zip, nothing ...
I grow all my trees in Air-Pots, and have done so for years. I won't plant a woody plant or tree in anything else now. The difference in growth and vigor is substantial, and if I can't plant a tree right away, I don't have to worry about it becoming "pot bound" because this cannot happen in an Air-Pot. Also, my finicky Alocasias respond well to the increased aeration that these containers provide.
On the freeze spray, I'm going to have to write the inventor again and find out what's going on with it. The product should have been out by now, but maybe they are waiting for a rollout in the Fall. Sometimes, timing is everything.
air pot coop!!!!!!!! Seems to me that you couldn't chance skipping daily watering with the air pots. This would be something I would love to try. Have never seen the before.
Since we're drooling over various and sundries variegates, Tropiflora has 12" var. pony tail plants for $25 + ship. I will give this plant one more try. I think excessive rain and/or watering killed my first one. But it is a beauty.
For those of you who crave variegated plants, I have a variegated Zamia furfuracea and a few variegated seedlings out of over a hundred seeds. I'll need to post a pic as soon as I get back to my plants (at the office now, grrrr!).
As for watering in the Air-Pots, it depends upon the water demands of the plant. Overall, you do have to watch them, but the soil media you use makes a difference also. I use a loose mix so I tend to water more often for a lot of plants. But then again, I have most of my plants on drip irrigation (13 zones) so the watering is not so onerous. Wintertime watering is less of a problem, of course.
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I'm going to have to look into that. I was at Caldwells nursery saturday night and he was showing me all the zones he had for watering...after this hot summer, it is something that is needed in order to proceed with other projects. In any case, they shouldn't dry out that much fast than the pots are now!
Yes, LariAnn post a pic and where did yo get it? Please.
Awhile back I was looking at var. kentia palms I think it was. Tiny things for $$$$, several cultivars too and I was in love with the minis. But I kill ones that are supposedly easy so I was hesitant to jump and spend the big bucks.
You guys have me rethinking that one. I may NEED them.
Here's another view. This plant is a siamese twin with an all-green one. I spotted this plant at a plain ol' nursery and got it at the same price as a regular green one. Sometimes people just don't appreciate what they have . . .
So are you selling them, LariAnn? Nery wants one! So what is a zamia? A fern like plant? I have never heard of it.
Rj, since you brought it up earlier, I have a funny story about my plant allowance. Several years ago I asked a checker at Safeway, our grocery store, if I did the get the additional cash you can opt for as you are checking out, did it show up on your credit card bill or was it just added into your grocery bill.
She said it was added in to yourg grocery bill so no way to tell you had gotten cash. I was thrilled. I was on an allowance so I happily started getting $40 extra many times I went. I even made special trips an dobught a small item and got the extra cash.
Some weeks I would get the $40 extra (then even more when you were allowed to get more) 4 times a week, depending on my nursery hopping. This went on for several years and the whole time I felt so smug. I even bragged about my way to get extra money from my husband without him even knowing.
A couple of months ago I was looking for a particular charge so I opened the credit card bill whenit saw it in the mail. To my chagrin, there was a whole months worth of Safeway charges and under each one it said I had gotten additional cash. It looked to me like it was in PINK neon it was so obvious on the bill.
For a minute or 2, I died. Then I realized that I had been doing this for a long while and my husband had never said boo. Never even asked me what I was doing with all the cash. LOL I could breath again.
I thought it was so funny that by the time Tom got home I actually told him the story of how I thought he had no clue from the credit card bill that I was skimming cash from the grocery bill. He didn't think it was quite as funny as I did. LOL
HELLO BARBARA!!! It has been a long time! I occasionally would hear about you from Donna or Delisa. How are you doing? Is your garden still so fabulous? I find the older I get the worse my garden looks. Just going out to the nursery exhausts me, forget planting whatever I bought. LOL Always great to hear from you!
Are you still collecting brugs? Love your gum tree. Katrina knocked us for a loop. Lost one greenhouse and had a lot of damage to the house. All my neighbor's trees fell into our yard crushing so many plants. Just now getting the inside of house back to normal. The upstairs bedrooms just have the furniture sitting in the rooms in a pile. It has been hard to get back to "normal".
Oh Barbara, I think the 6 that bought the AeAes are the lucky ones!
That is so sad about Katrina. So many people suffered so. I remember you talking about all the damage to your yard. You didn't evacuate did you?
I lost all interest in brugs for a couple of years. I was so sick of mites. I just left them wherever they were and watered them on occasion. Then a couple of months ago, I looked out my window and saw the perfect pink in bloom. So I was captured again! LOL
Since I have been potting so many seedlings and cuttings from 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007 up to 5 gallon cans or even 15 gallon cans. Brugs are so amazing how they hang on for years in a gallon can. As soon as they hit a bigger pot they go nuts in delight and you would never know they were stunted for so long.
Today I found a brug in a red plastic cup that was dated in 2004. I could not believe it was still alive. The main stem was long dead but it had grown a new sprout from the roots and it was about 8 inches tall. I could not read the name but I potted it up to a gallon can anyway. I bet it is Pink Beauty or one of the older ones. It deserves to live on after being such a survivor on its own for so long.
here is a closeup of the base. As you can see, not as bulbous as the reg. ponytail plant but gets bigger as it matures. I think I will keep this one as an indoor plant at least for 1-2 yrs. low water. This is a slow grower like the reg. green.
My reg. green was transplanted outdoors a couple of yrs ago and it grows about 6"/yr. has done well w/o winter protection but upper leaves get ratty. I may cover the plant this year just to avoid the rattiness altogether.
Beautiful. An acquaintance got one of those from tropaflora a couple of years ago and you are correct, it is a slow grower and she too protected it for the first year or two. I don't knolw how it handled this past, very cold winter.
I drove over to Opelousas and met Don & his wife Helen and acquired this baby!!!! Went early and spent a little time at the casino and did not do well there at all but I still smiled all the way home!!!!
LOL, Kell. Definitely afraid to water it. I just cut off all the old leaves too so I'm definitely not going to water it!
Jeri, I don't know if blue bamboo is as invasive as regular bamboo, but a friend of mine has it all over his yard and can't get rid of it. He says it comes up through the cracks in his driveway and comes back from any roots left in the soil. It is really causing him trouble. That's nice that you got to meet Helen and Don. I talked with Helen a bit too by dmail, and she is very nice. I feel badly that I talked them into signing up for a PayPal account, and they were surprised at the fee that PayPal took when I sent them payment. Shipping was more than they expected too. Well, it was a good buying experience for me:-)
LOL..did I scare ya. The trick is water, but dry by days end...easy in your area.
And in the winter...then don't water it. Some folks even keep them in the house...now that would be a pretty house plant...hmmmmm
I wouldn't suggest anyone else try this but a friend who has a large A'e A'e, cuts it to the ground each winter. His tree is over 15 years old and very healthy - I saw it myself. His theory is that people fuss too much with these plants. However, he does advocate that they absolutely must be on their own and planted far away from other nanas.
Yes, I'm finding out there is a big dividing line between fussers, and not.
This is indicitive that it thrives on neglect..mmm hmmm..
But I ask you...if you pay 100.00 to 250.00 for a plant...woudn't ya fuss...sounds like the hackers got theirs for free...lol...
I left mine out until mid January this year..then panicked and tucked it in the green house..
Alice, why did he say that they should be planted far away from other bananas? He's probably right about how fussing too much can be detrimental to the plant.
Rj, with no real leaves and just transplanted and in full shade, the soil isn't drying out that fast. I think I'm going to move mine to part sun now and see how it goes. I don't think I'll see burn in part sun.
Clare, He told me they are susceptible to a fungal disease that they get from other bananas. It seems most bananas varieties are not bothered by this fungus but it can take down an A'e A'e and it will rot.
Yes, mine gets sun, in fact it didn't like the shadier area I relocated it from. Waynes is in the cold frame green house in mostly sun all day, some morning and afternoon shade..doing fine. They will get brown spots eventually, but the new leaves seem fine.
The do get quiet a bit of sun. Here is a picture of some in the sun..
I just cut my mother Ae Ae down. She was at about 18 feet and had been hitting the greenhouse roof for months. Since the leaves were 8-10 ft long, every leaf would hit the roof and break the midrib. Got to looking real scraggly. I suffered through until the plant bloomed (finally, after about 4 years). Had a nice hand of variegated bananas and several pups at the base. Squirrels started going after the bananas and i was afraid they would damage the pups. So a few days ago I cut the mother down and sacrificed the bananas to let the pups have a chance. Here are a few pics...first the plant over a year ago before it got to the roof
I wish I'd been able to keep them on til they ripened so we could eat them, but the squirrels can be vicious to my plants sometimes, so I just gave them to the squirrels so they would leave the trees alone
I dread the day that I have to do that!!! Of course, I pray that mine will make it to that stage!!! I finally watered it Thursday. I hope I don't do the opposite and kill it for the lack of water. I'm still keeping it under the carport. Afraid of the sun too!!!!
We layed ours down in the greenhouse this last winter and it was looking real good whenwe took it out. I had 15 pups and still is etting another one as we speak. It's geat and t never gives up. it's 9 years old and 21 ft. tall and is like the energizer bunny she never stops.I have exactly 3 plants left can't sell them fast enough.I am very happy with it and also it is by other bananas and we have no trouble with any kind of bugs.
My Ae Ae that I have been growing in upstairs bath and sitting area since first of December. Loves to be misted as many times a day as you want. Let the soil dry until 1 day before leaves droop and water enough where it does not run out of the pot drainage holes. (I use the pick up the pot and feel how heavy it is test for dryness)
I use 2/3 Miracle grow potting mix and 1/3 medium coarse perlite. Osmocote 14-14-14- as per directions.
Sometimes you can find them via Bananas.Org. I have seen them on E-bay also; usually a 2' tall plant for $65.00 plus shipping. I paid $100.00 plus shipping of approx. $35.00. It has grown about 1/3 since First week of Dec. Total height now with leaves in their bent over state about 3'-8''.
Upstairs in one of the baths. I have a Money Tree, Alocasia Borneo Giant, A. Lutea, A. Sarian, A.Odora Okinawa Silver, A. Lauterbachiana, A. Calidora tuber, A. Blue Portora tuber, A. Portei tuber, A. Odora Variegata, Xanthosoma Variegata, X. Sagittifolium tuber, X. Lime Zinger, plus about 30 aroids and bananas in the garage.
Well dyzzypyxxy, Yes; those are 120 watt Gro Lights in the sinks and on the walls. On the other side of this mirrored wall is a sitting area. The second floor, has a huge floor to ceiling window on the south side of the house (in that sitting area) that is about 6'x8'. That's where they live when the "outlaws" come to town.
Everything in the garage hangs there till spring (4-6weeks). I have two Ceramic heaters in the garage and mist all plants in there twice a day. Inside stuff 8-10 times/day.
I have never grown the AeAe before so am reluctant to put it in the ground. However all my other tropicals I have ever had out in the gardens have done really well. I am zone 7-b. Will post pictures in the Spring and Summer.
Hello, All. I've been away for awhile, but I thought I would give you an update on my variegated bananas. I bought four AeAe's in the summer of 2009, and they all died shortly after arrival. Luckily, the 5th one I bought (from Hawaii) survived. I too paid around $100 each. I have it in the ground where it's been since April, 2010. In January of 2010, I bought some Thai Variegated bananas, which are much less fussy and just as beautiful as the AeAe. I am really pleased with how the Thai ones have performed. The variegation is interesting and beautiful, and the white part of the leaves stays beautiful for much longer in full sun. They also pup quickly, and since the variegation is unstable, you get lots of interesting variegation in the pups. Here's a link to my photo album where I have some pictures: http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Clare_CA/ Check the album that says "Bananas" also for more pictures. I'll upload a series of pictures here for you to see.
This is the AeAe that survived when I first received it. This is March, 2010.
Hi Dana! How are you? I hope doing well. Yeah, I totally am a farmer:-) I have 23 chickens, 1 rooster, 3 zebra finches, 2 coonhounds, and 1 cat, and I have a large garden to tend:-) I hope you and your plumies are doing well. I just subscribed again yesterday. I've been away for a while.
Thanks, Candela:-) The variegated palms are a double-edged sword, I'm told. They can never be planted outside or else the variegation will burn in full sun. They also may revert to all green eventually. Oh, well. They are beautiful while it lasts.
Yea, I experimented and managed to get it to send up two pups so I have three total in the pot. The other clones I have are nice, 2 are a more yellowish than white, the forth is white like Ae Ae, but very variable in its coloring, sometimes half the enite leaf is white, others are almost normal.
It has been sometime since I have done it. I bought the pure hormone from the internet (I don't remember the name of the company) and made a paste with it and applied to the nodes. There were instructions with the hormone and I used the middle amount as there was nothing pertaining to bananas. Worked very well, the plant I appled nothing to there was no new pups.
4 pups is a good number, Ae Ae doesn'usually pup that heavily. I don't know how large your plant is, but I got pups on a plant what was only 2' tall or so. I'll look around and see if I can find any more specofic instructions on what I did and use DM to contact you or vice versa-
Still just gorgeous, Drew. I had a thought when you said the pups were not growing. Do you still have 4 pups?
Back at our old house, we had a big clump of bananas - nothing special just regular fruiting variety. I was all keen to grow fruit, so I recall reading up on them to figure out how to make it happen. One tidbit I recall said when the pups start to pop up, not to let more than one or two grow each year, and remove the rest. Something about the corm not being able to support too many at once.
D'you think the pups might be either starving to feed the mother, or everybody being set back by too big a family feeding off one corm? If they don't start growing, I'd consider removing one or two, to see if the others jump up. (maybe the ones you remove will make it a go, too)
I think it is more to do with a lack of sun Elaine! 2 went to the wayside and I still have 2. I could kick myself for planting so far into the tree line!!!
DW. wanted me not to plant it in the tomato garden this year as it was not on it's deathbed as it was last spring. That area of soil is the E. R.. It only got about 2.5 hours direct sun at the summer solstice.
The best way to continuously grow a stand of fruiting bananas is to keep three at all times. The grandmother the mother and the daughter. That way you have a flowering plant and one for the next year and so on!
I am fairly certain that the pups will really get going as the mother gets closer to flowering. Right now I am concerned more for keeping it alive through the fall and then I will dig and I will be fine next spring IF... I have a true variegate. They could end up being all greenies.
They are way too small to remove ... about a Nickel dia. size at the base.
We are suppose to cool to 96 tomorrow and then low to mid eighties the rest of the week.
Thank you so much for your input. I will stay in touch on progress via this thread.
As much as I love varigated plants, this AeAe is making me want one, but my pocketbook can't justify that expense. So I'll keep admiring yall's. Maybe one of these days as I have no other banana plants so maybe I wouldn't have too many problems...
I will put in my two cents here about pups since the topic has come up. I was told by a grower that pups should not be removed from the parent plant until they have unfurled a leaf, but I have had several bananas, including ae ae, fall over (without my permission), and I have replanted pups no longer than four inches tip to tip of root. Three of those were ae ae. I figured I didn't have anything to lose. I made sure they were watered and they all grew. I didn't lose one. My bananas are more particular about water than they are about sun. I have some bananas growing in complete shade, but they don't like dry places. I will say that my soil drains perfectly. If you think you want to thin your pups I would definitely replant them and see what happens.
Speaking of water, Drew, what are you watering with - municipal or well water? I wonder if these plants could be sensitive to the chlorine and flouride, not to mention what else, in municipal water systems. Many places in HI where they do better are usually on catchment systems so they would be watered with rain water. Just being curious...
Thanks koa for that info. I have deprived my poor baby some then. Of course, I don't have as good a drainage as you do there in Hi. I am experiencing some brown spots in the white of mine and Drew had suggested last week that I take a picture and post it and he thought it could need more water then. I took the picture and my battery died and I've never gotten back to posting it. I'll try when I get back in this PM.
Jeri, I think the brown spots on the white is just from the sun. It happens very easily on my AeAe's. The white stays nicer on my Thai variegated bananas for a little longer before turning brown. They are both in full sun though. If you grow them in dappled sun or part sun, you can keep the white parts on the leaves looking nicer for longer.
Thanks Clare!! I have it in a large pot in the semi-shade of my south facing front porch. The little miniature nana is doing well also!!! I'm doing excellent. School will be starting soon and all the grands will be back in place instead of treating my house as a revolving door. I don't get one out before another is at my door. We even took the pool out or rather in the process of removing it and gave them all passes to the local water slide, pool and amusement park and it still hasn't worked. LOL!!!
Zone 9 Tropicals had 2 Huge ones a few years ago and I know they lost one not sure about the second one. You could email them and see if they have any pointers on taking care of them. http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/4456/