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Xeriscape Gardening: Perennials for Xeriscaping, Zone 7 (and zones 2-11)

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cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

August 9, 2004
5:27 AM

Post #993064

I've been researching Xeriscaping plants for zone 7. I have decided that my zone 7 is the perfect zone. Not too cold and not too hot. Temperature ranges from 0 to 100 (except this summer). We usually don't get much rain in July and August, this year has been the exception.

I am amazed that how many beautiful plants can be part of a Xeriscaping landscape. The photos in http://www.highcountrygardens.com/ proves it. Xeriscaping does not have to include Cacti and succulents if you do not like them. This is research that I have done for myself, I thought I would share it with everyone.

For the most part, I went with some of Michelle’s recommendations, David’s Favorites from High Country Gardens, and from my personal experience. I left out some of the plants that were recommended because they didn’t specifically state that they were drought resistant. The exceptions I made were plants that I knew from personal experience that had done well in my garden.

If you see that a favorite drought resistant plant of yours is not in this list, I would love to have that information. Most of these links are from the Plants Database, if there was insufficient information, or no photo, and it was from High Country Gardens, then I substituted with a link to www.highcountrygardens.com

Perennials for zone 7
Achillea – Yarrow http://plantsdatabase.com/go/58/index.html zones 3-9
Agastache http://plantsdatabase.com/search.php?search_text=Agastache&Search=Search
Amphora canescens - Lead Plant http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1512/index.html zones 2-9
Artemesia - Silver Mound http://plantsdatabase.com/go/54941/index.html zones 4-9
Aster novae-angliae http://plantsdatabase.com/search.php?search_text=Aster+novae-angliae&Search=Search zones 3-9
Aster x frikartii (Mönch) http://plantsdatabase.com/go/54947/index.html zones 5-8
Berlandiera lyrata - Chocolate Daisy http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1605/index.html zones 6-11
Buddleia - Butterfly Bush http://plantsdatabase.com/go/128/index.html zones 5-9
Calamagrostis x acutiflora ‘Karl Foerster’ http://plantsdatabase.com/go/51722/index.html zones 5-9
Callirhoe - Poppy Mallows http://plantsdatabase.com/go/695/index.html
Chrysanthemum?
Cytisus purgans - Broom Spanish Gold http://www.highcountrygardens.com/shop/prod.html?class=davids&subclass=award&page=3 zones 4-9
Dianthus http://plantsdatabase.com/go/4/index.html zones 3-9
Gazania krebsiana Tanager http://plantsdatabase.com/go/67206/index.html zones 5-10
Hymenoxys acaulis – http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1779/index.html zones 5b-10b
Lavandula Angustifolia http://plantsdatabase.com/go/54348/index.html zones 4-11
Penstemon eatonii – Firecracker http://plantsdatabase.com/go/53555/index.html zones 4-8
Penstemon palmeri - http://plantsdatabase.com/go/53561/index.html zones 4-9
Penstemon White Plains Beardtongue zones 4-8, Pike’s Peak Purple aones 5-9, and Red Rocks™ Hybrid Beardtongue zones 5-9 http://www.highcountrygardens.com/shop/prod.html?class=davids&subclass=award&page=6
Perovskia atriplicifolia – Russian Sage http://plantsdatabase.com/go/733/index.html zones 5-9
Oenothera missouriensis - Missouri Primrose http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1096/index.html zones 4-8
Oregano http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1537/index.html zones 5-10
Rosemary http://plantsdatabase.com/go/170/index.html zones 7-10
Salvia greggii - Autumn Sage http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1074/index.html zones 7-9
Salvia Nemerosa – May Night http://www.highcountrygardens.com/shop/prod.html?class=davids&subclass=award&page=8 zones 4-9
Thymus serpyllum – Creeping Thyme ‘Elfin’ http://plantsdatabase.com/go/53196/index.html zones 5-10
Thymus Praecox – Red Creeping Thyme ‘Coccineus’ http://plantsdatabase.com/go/54335/index.html zones 4-9

Editing to add:
Achillea ageratifolia - Greek Yarrow http://plantsdatabase.com/go/53431/index.html zones 3-8
Achillea tomentosa - Woolly Yarrow
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1021/index.html zones 3-10a
Allium senescens - German Garlic http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1361/index.html zones 5-9
Aubrieta cultorum - Rock Cress 'Whitewell Gem'
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/56054/index.html zones 5-9
Delosperma cooperi - Hardy Ice Plant http://plantsdatabase.com/go/1928/index.html zones 5-9
Echinacea purpurea
http://plantsdatabase.com/search.php?search_text=echinacea%20purpurea
Geranium macrorrhizum - Cranesbill
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/2784/index.html zones 4-8
Petrorhagia saxifraga - Tunic Flower
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/963/index.html zones 5-7
Rhodiola rosea - Roseroot Stonecrop
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/55711/index.html zones 2-8
Sedum acre - Gold Moss Sedum
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/53276/index.html zones 4-9
Sedum aizoon - Stonecrop Sedum
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/40131/index.html zones 4-9
Sedum kamtschaticum - Variegated Kamschatka Stonecrop
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/38354/index.html zones 4-9
Sedum sexangulare - Six Sided Sedum groundcover
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/68630/index.html zones 3-8
Sedum spurium - Two Row Stonecrop 'tricolor'
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/3296/index.html zones 4-9
Silene uniflora - 'Druett's Variegated' Sea Campion
http://plantsdatabase.com/go/58279/index.html zones 4-9








This message was edited Aug 9, 2004 4:46 PM
SuzannesFlowers
Woodstock, GA
(Zone 7b)

August 9, 2004
1:23 PM

Post #993314

Cherish, this is a terrific thread I am new to xeriscaping after finding out firsthand that I just cannot water enough on the right days, (we have a summer water ban) and keep everything growing. So far my best success in the garden has been the simple purple coneflower. I just love it, it is the only flower that continously makes me smile because it is so reliable, flowers constantly. I have not done a thing to them except let loose some ladybugs. I planted a 7ft by 12 ft area and i think I am going to back it with liatris, and then perhaps a row of yarrow. I planted a couple of each as test plants. Hopefully they both will be as rewarding. Looking at your list has also given me some great ideas. Do you know if artesmia grows well (quickly)from seed?
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

August 9, 2004
2:06 PM

Post #993360

Suzanne, the only experience I have with Artimesia is buying it from Walmart, so I don't know anything about growing it from seed. I do love it though, at least the Silver Mound. I may try the Sea Foam since David highly recommended that one on the High Country Gardens site.

My experience with the purple coneflower is that the rabbits in my area are eating the leaves at the bottom. That's the only reason I didn't add it to the list, but I guess that's not a good reason. I did plant 3 this year and in spite of the rabbits, two of them are blooming quite well, without very many leaves at the bottom. Now that you've mentioned how well yours are doing, I'll go ahead and add them to the list.
sharvis
Klamath Falls, OR
(Zone 6a)

August 10, 2004
4:58 PM

Post #995292

Cherish,

I too am interested in xeriscaping and have been ordering from High Country Gardens for several years now. Most western states (unless you live on the coast, of course) have the kinds of climates that are suitable for this kind of gardening. And we all have water issues. Anyway, what I mostly wanted to mention is that Artemisia 'Tangerine' is often used as a barrier plant. Deer and rabbits are not crazy about it because it has a strong citrus fragrance when you crush the leaves. I love it. It isn't as flashy as some of the other Artemisia's, but it's great in my book. I also want to recommend to you both that you try some of the Lavenders. They do extremely well for me and ask for very little water once they are established. Hope to hear more about your experiences with this kind of gardening. 8-]

sharvis
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2004
5:45 PM

Post #995359

Sharvis,
I have been toying with the idea of using a barrier of several different plants that the rabbits hate, and that have strong smells. Such as Marigolds, Salvias, Lavenders and Artimesia. I am very interested in the Tangerine Artemisia, it does seem rather tall though at 4 feet. I found it in the High Country site. I might be able to use it at the backside of my garden and ring the shorter plants around the sides and front. I think I'll look through High Country's catalog for plants that specify rabbit resistance.
sharvis
Klamath Falls, OR
(Zone 6a)

August 10, 2004
6:16 PM

Post #995428

Hmmmm...mine never grew to 4 feet. I guess it depends upon soil and weather conditions etc. Anyway, if you like it, it is an easy plant to keep in bounds. You just cut it off when it gets too tall for your taste. I does grow fairly wide tho, so it can be hemmed to a hedge.

The very best plant I ever found to keep deer and rabbits from eating my plants is called 'A Tall Fence', sometimes known as 'A big mean dog'. Just kidding LOL

sharvis

P.S. Remember that 'rabbit resistance' doesn't mean 'rabbit proof'. I've never found anything that they wouldn't eat if they are hungry enough.
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2004
6:24 PM

Post #995449

Yeah, I don't suppose ANYTHING would be rabbit proof, I just want to make it more distasteful for them to get at the plants they want. I live right beside a field with plenty of buffet for them and they like my bermuda grass so there is plenty for them to eat besides my bulbs. I am going to get bloodmeal from Walmart, highly recommended by my in-laws. We'll see how that works.

As for the Artimisia, I was just going by what High Country Gardens said about it. Their description said 48" by 48". If it can be sheared and still look good, then thats the stuff I need.

As for the dog...we can't get one until we get a fenced in yard. We will eventually though.
shearpamela
Flower Mound, TX
(Zone 7b)

August 17, 2004
1:58 PM

Post #1006102

Here is a link from the plant database of a plant I have growing successfully in my garden; zone 7. I'm in Flower Mound, Texas. This plant is attractive to birds, butterflies and bees, and is xeric. It grows fast, mine is about 4 1/2 feet tall now and was only a foot when I bought it earlier this year. The blooms are yellow and look like candles, and the leaves fold up at night - very unique and interesting plant in my book! Mine hasn't bloomed yet, but I will take photos when it does. I got mine at Calloway's Nursery.


http://davesgarden.com/pdb/go/371/index.html
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

August 17, 2004
2:15 PM

Post #1006111

Pam, that is a beautiful plant. I would love to try it some day.
ncgardenaddict
Kannapolis, NC
(Zone 7b)

November 9, 2004
12:00 PM

Post #1136286

Cherish, I just stumbled on this thread! Great one!! I noticed that I have many of the plants above and you and I are in the same zones. Hope you are still watching this thread! I would love to hear about trees good for Xeris...

One more thing - Artemsia (sp?) is EASY easy to grow from seed. I did it this year and started it way too late and it still grew wonderfully! Here's a pic. The seeds are incredibly tiny - I got mine from Johnny's select and started them briefly indoors in spring then set them on my porch for awhile. They practically grew themselves! I actually had to use an axe to get them down when I cleared all my annuals. I wish I hadn't already traded so many of them or I would send you some. I do plan on ordering from Johnny's soon and since they have a couple of different kinds will probably buy more though. It's the one on the right.. By the way, to the left of that is another good perennial plant - White Sage. It's at Johnny's and it's the kind that Native American's use for smudge sticks - stinky stuff!!

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cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

November 9, 2004
2:12 PM

Post #1136462

Ooooh! What's that grass at the back left? That's really pretty.

You've got a nice looking grouping there. The only artemesia I have is Silver Mound. There is one little patch of seeds forming on it, but it's taking forever. I don't know if the frost will get it or if they will still go ahead and do what they are supposed to do. Looks like we'll get our first frost this week sometime.

I'm working on getting more of the drought tolerant plants, but in my neck of the woods, they have to be able to take a lot of rain in the spring too. That really cuts me out of a lot of the Xeriscaping plants, I think. But I will only be able to tell by trial and error. I'm starting to lean towards using a lot of our local stuff, right out of my uncle's field. My dad calls them weeds. Won't he be surprised when my garden is really pretty with the stuff he calls weeds.
ncgardenaddict
Kannapolis, NC
(Zone 7b)

November 9, 2004
2:18 PM

Post #1136471

We have been getting more rain than usual these past 2 years. Kinda makes me second guess all my plant - plans.. My Corkscrew Willow was really happy this year but my Lavender - sigh...

Grass at back is regular ol Variegated Miscanthus. If you want some DO NOT buy any! I will have to divide this one in the Spring. Send me a reminder (I can't remember yesterday lol) and we can do a trade or SASE if you like. It gets big though and has a fountain effect so if that is not appealing... It flowers too!
I like a lot of grasses b/c they don't seem to care what you do to them! I have a lot of wind and sun..

Cool thread!!!

cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

November 9, 2004
2:23 PM

Post #1136477

I had planted two English Lavender's and one Spanish Lavender. Lost both English L.'s to too much rain, but the Spanish L. kept going strong and it still looks good.

Thanks for offering your miscanthus. I'll put a note in my tradetracker or I'll forget too.
ncgardenaddict
Kannapolis, NC
(Zone 7b)

November 9, 2004
2:28 PM

Post #1136484

:-)
sharvis
Klamath Falls, OR
(Zone 6a)

November 9, 2004
2:39 PM

Post #1136504

Speaking of artemisia, the cultivar 'Tangerine' is really good if anyone has a problem with deer, rabbits, etc. It has kind of a citrusy smell if you brush past it or crush the leaves and the critters don't like it at all. Sometimes it's used as a barrier to protect other more vulnerable plants. I love it, but it doesn't flower.
ncgardenaddict
Kannapolis, NC
(Zone 7b)

November 9, 2004
2:43 PM

Post #1136511

Thanks! I will look that up in the database! I really liked the one I grew last summer and am certainly open to different varieties!!
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

November 9, 2004
2:51 PM

Post #1136531

Thanks sharvis, those little varmints have destroyed my bulbs.
rweiler
Albuquerque, NM

June 20, 2005
7:08 PM

Post #1562718

Have you looked into Catmint? I am in the Desert Southwest Zone 6b-7b. Catmint is amazing and if you get decent rain it would be very happy. High Country Desert describes a couple varieties, some sterile and some re-seed like crazy. I love it because it blooms all summer and everyday I have at least 10 butterflies hover around it!

Also, Boules Wallflower is a beautiful purple, Spring-Summer Xeric plant. And as someone said above you must have coneflowers. Even try Cornflowers, the Centaurea group. These are annual Bachelors Button and some great perennial ones too -try Centaurea Montana.

I have Black-eyed Susan/Rudbeckia blooming right now from a wildflower mix. I forgot I even threw in the bed last summer and this Spring it came up with no water for months.

Lantana and Verbena sound like they would do great in your area too.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 23, 2006
2:31 AM

Post #2131944

This is an old post, but here goes, I live in zone 5, but I've been ordering from High Country Gardens for a couple of years now. I love penstemons, and agastache. We don't have real dry weather, but I do have hot dry spots around trees. I had the Berlindera ( hope that's right,) that smelled like chocolate for a couple of years before I lost it. I order every year. I have to be careful tho. Some plants say hardy to zone 5 but aren't.
BloomsWithaView
Moab, UT
(Zone 6b)

March 24, 2006
12:13 AM

Post #2134373

billy thanks for the bump... needed to see this again forgot where it was

Cherish this is still a verrry good thread with great information

Will get back here as the garden year wears on.
~Blooms
mary0114
Lodi, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 24, 2006
3:41 AM

Post #2135010

I am putting in a Mediterranean garden in my front yard ( no grass). I know you're High Country Garden fans, and I'm sure they've got a great selection. Just thought I'd let you know about Canyon Creek Nursery. If you're looking for some unusual perennials, salvias, euphorbias, kniphofias, etc., they would have some great selections for xeriscape also. Good luck with your endeavor.
DanaDW
Pahrump, NV
(Zone 8a)

March 24, 2006
5:30 AM

Post #2135167

Thanks mary, I can never know enough good nurseries so I will definitely give them a look :).

I just put a raised bed out front and filled it with 2 types of opuntia, rock rose, perky sue, sotol, agave, and and and...still waiting on a few other things to get here. Most of the front still looks like a barren wasteland but it's a start.
mary0114
Lodi, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 24, 2006
2:16 PM

Post #2135735

My neighbor across the street loves her lawn and can't understand what I'm doing. She can't imagine a yard without grass. I'm hoping that when everything is in, people will do the same. ARound here, no one uses their front yards and yet they pour excess amounts of fertilizers and water on the grass just the stand there and look at it. I'm actually putting a little seating area in the front so I can actually utilize my yard when it's done. Our summers are hot and dry and winters get down into the high 20s at times. This is not an area of the country where grass is easy to grow. There's just too much water wasted. So, I'm rebelling. Those opuntias will look gorgeous in bloom, by the way.
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 24, 2006
2:31 PM

Post #2135780

Change is hard to accept, so by giving them a positive example you are helping them adapt and maybe even try it themselves.
Where are some pictures of your yard? Before and give us some when you get it all fixed.
I know you will enjoy it.
Sidney
mary0114
Lodi, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 24, 2006
4:15 PM

Post #2136009

I'll post some pictures as soon as I get the first berm completed. It will have salvia clevlandii,gaura, calothamnus villosus, achillea and limonium perezii. In the meantime, everything else I have planted is hard to see because the plants are so small. As they fill in, I'll send pictures. THanks.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 24, 2006
6:32 PM

Post #2136283

This year I'm trying penstemon - Firecracker, silene - Prairie Fire, agastache - Desert Sunrise, and Hysopp. I'm getting back into the fragrant dianthus hoping for butterflies.
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

March 24, 2006
6:41 PM

Post #2136301

It's nice to see other people get some benefit from my posting. :-) I'm very interested in seeing a pic of your yard, mary, when you get it posted.
Pagancat
(Sheryl) Gainesboro, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 2, 2006
7:19 PM

Post #2158062

Billy, just an FYI from where some of those plants thrive - put the penstemon in the brightest spot possible, make sure the soil is very lean (don't bother composting) and *very* well draining. The biggest reason they fail here is overwatering and rotting out.

HTH

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

April 3, 2006
9:06 PM

Post #2160813

Thanks Pagancat, I have a sandy soil near a silver maple. I put all my hot and dry there. I have had plants rot, so I'm learning!
Pagancat
(Sheryl) Gainesboro, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2006
9:18 PM

Post #2163713

>smile<

There I go, preaching to the choir again!

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

April 4, 2006
10:38 PM

Post #2163884

Doesn't bother me any. I don't mind reviewing,and I did lose plants...
Pagancat
(Sheryl) Gainesboro, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 5, 2006
8:30 PM

Post #2166466

Lost some plants??? LOL, get in line. Gardening in the blast furnace down here feels like an exercise in futility at times.

Good luck!

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

April 6, 2006
12:53 AM

Post #2167084

We cry when it doesn't rain here, and we have the humidity, but I don't think I could handle a blast furnace. No wonder you know hot and dry! Smile.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 15, 2006
6:13 AM

Post #2191778

Cherishlife, thank you for taking the time to put all this information here. Excellent quick resource.

Pagancat, I spent a year in Bullhead City - I couldn't even keep an aquarium without air conditioning on, so I didn't have it. I found a rental with big windows - big mistake - I had to cover them with bubble insulation! I did manage to keep petunias growing on my patio, but not much else!

Billyporter - good to see you on another thread of common interest. I was able to visit HGC on a trip to Santa Fe in 2004. I thought I'd go crazy buying, but it was August, so of course, not a good time (instead I bought 30# of fresh roasted green chilies and carried them home in my carry-on...YUM!) About ten years ago, in CO (I've been around) I did a version of their Big Easy Waterwise garden, and then again here last year. It takes a while to fill in, but it's just gorgeous when it does.

Agastache is at the top of my list of wants, but in this very wet winter climate, I'm not ready for them yet. The one I tried last year didn't make it.

One of the things that I think about with xeriscape is to consider what natives are around. I've been known to cultivate "weeds" with flowers, no prickers, and nice habits. For example, in CO there was a mallow with tiny orange flowers that was encouraged. Here I've noticed cranesbill and a few other neat things (like wild roses, CA sunrose, ferns, False Solomon's Seal). But, a problem with natives is that they don't always take well to transplanting.

BTW, I've also been known to cultivate a weed, thinking I planted it, only to pull out the plant I wanted...hmmm...so don't take my word for anything...lol

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

April 16, 2006
6:43 PM

Post #2194933

Thanks 4paws. We dug up one wild rose and set it on the end of a 25' wall. It has spread almost the entire length. I look forward to the blooms every year. I still have the petals in a jar with blue delphinium and other garden flowers. I used to dump it out every year, sort the faded petals and renew it. I'm really getting excited by the colors of Agastache.
peterand
Seattle, WA

May 1, 2006
8:42 PM

Post #2239465

Hiya-
I just discovered Davesgarden today, went right for my favorite subject- Xeriscaping. I have done extensive research for personal enjoyment (much like Cherish), thought I'd share some of my finds with you, my waterless friends. Add these plants to Cherish's excellent list. First, perennials - trees & shrubs later.

PERENNIALS SELECTED FOR LOW-WATER USAGE - Z7 or less

1) Agave parryi
2) Agapanthus campanulatus
3) Alchemilla alpina
4) Allium species - try Allium sphaerocephalon
5) Amsonia tabernaemontana
6) Anaphalis species - try Anaphalis margaritacea
7) Armeria species - try Armeria pseudarmeria
8) Asclepias tuberosa
9) Baptisia species - try Baptisia lactea (=B. leucantha)
10) Ceratostigma plumbaginoides
11) Echinops ritro
12) Eryngium amethystinum
13) Filipendula vulgaris 'Floro Pleno'
14) Geranium sanguineum
15) Goniolimon tataricum
16) Gypsophila species
17) Hesperaloe parviflora
18) Knautia macedonica
19) Limonium gmelinii
20) Limonium latifolium
21) Linum flavum
22) Linum hirsutum
23) Nepeta x faassenii
24) Penstemon pinifolius
25) Ruta graveolens
26) Saponaria x lempergei 'Max Frei'
27) Satureja montana
28) Sempervivum cultivars
29) Solidago species
30) x Solidaster luteus
31) Stachys byzantina
32) Teucrium species
33) Verbascum species - try V. chaixii
34) Zauschneria species - try Z. garrettii 'Orange Carpet'

This message was edited May 1, 2006 1:47 PM
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

May 3, 2006
2:23 PM

Post #2244596

Awesome! Welcome to Dave's Garden and thank you for the addition.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 3, 2006
3:21 PM

Post #2244753

I second that welcome and thank you, peterand
MollyMc
Archer/Bronson, FL
(Zone 8b)

July 1, 2006
2:49 PM

Post #2454418

Now that I don't live in the tropics anymore, I find that it would be a great idea for me to spend more time here in Xeri.

So you say "But Molly, you live in Florida!" Yes, that's so true, but the difference in a 5-6 hour drive is amazing.

My property here is known as the Sand Hills of Levy County. We have sand on limerock. My 5 acres brags Long Leaf Pines, Turkey Oaks, Sand Oaks and wild Rosemary Bushes.

I can water a flower bed for over an hour, and it only takes a step on the wet to show it only went down 1/8 inch. Sooooo, it's a new kind of gardening for me.

I am concentrating on the natives of Florida that prefer this kind of sand. I buy natives from some local back yard growers who gather seeds from these natives. If I transplant some from the field out back or the road side swale up front, I hope they will have enough seeds on them to grow back after they die from transplant shock.

Cherish, in reviewing your list and the others added to this one, I am amazed at how well I have adapted and learned this new kind of gardening. I look for plants that are heat and drought tolerant and am amazed that you can still get a lot of color and personality from these kinds of plants.

I indulge in a lot of salvias, ornamental grasses and now coneflowers and rudbeckias. I am certainly surprised at how much better my roses are doing now that they are out of the tropics.

Thanks yall for all the research you have done on these plantings. I hope to come back here often to refresh.

Molly
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 1, 2006
3:36 PM

Post #2454524

Just two cents of caution - be careful of which buddleia you chose, as it invades the wild and isn't good for wild things (even if it looks like it is for butterflies... :-) I was saddened when I realized that all the "wild" buddleia has really taken over many places here, which is supposedly a remote area.

Xeriscaping just makes so much sense! Thanks for the bump on this thread!
:-)
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 2, 2006
9:37 PM

Post #2579843

OK here are my two picks for xeriscape extrordinare 1. Atriplex chenopodiaceae(salt bush) all varieties are usefull especially in the desert and in alkaline soil. It grows faaast for a bush,wide and tall, pretty, evergreen, silvery it takes heat, cold and drought and mine even survived 2 months of a rare flood which brings me to 2. Baccaris all varieties again, pilularis A. TWIN PEAKS DARKER MODERATE GROWTH B. PIGION POINT LIME COLORED, FAST SPREADING CAN BE CLIPPED INTO A HEDGE. Santhroides has bright green, nearly leafless branches, it can grow 7 ft. tall or clipped into 3 ft. hedge. All are evergreen groundcovers or shrubs, they take all the poor conditions including resistant to molds from wet feet and drought as well. they are beautiful and useful especially in fire prone areas and areas where you need a quick errosion control. No one ever talks about these well kept secrets. But I`m talking baby.
If I knew how to download pix to this site I would show pictures of my 2 year old plants.
Katlian
Carson City, NV
(Zone 6b)

August 7, 2006
8:12 PM

Post #2596813

Great list but I'm surprised no one has suggested Gailardia yet. We have several gailardias that mostly get ignored but do quite well. I have to keep deadheading though because I let one go last year and had to dig 2 dozen volunteers out of the yucky clay soil between our flagstones. I was surprised anything was growing in that soil, we don't even get many weeds that attempt such an unfriendly spot. When we moved this spring I dug up those volunteers plus some volunteers I had transplanted during the winter plus a few mature plants and stuck them all in pots. Even though the watering has been sporadic, and several other plants suffered major set backs, the gailardias are growing like champs and I haven't lost one yet.
dirttiger
Portland, OR

August 9, 2006
6:21 PM

Post #2603926

Even though I live in Portland Oregon, I am leaning into xeriscaping. There just isn't enough water to go around on this planet already, I feel like I don't need to help contribute to the shortage!!!!
Besides, there isn't a garden chore I hate more than watering! I could deadhead and weed all day long, but for some reason when it is time to water I drag my feet. Probably because of the guilt I feel about it, and the upcoming water bill!
Some of my favorites are lavender, coneflowers, penstemmon, gaillardia, rudbeckia, helianthus, coreopsis, orange cosmos, and any ornamental grass I can get my hands on. One of the things I need to work on is getting some "bones" into my landscaping. I definetely need to find some evergreen dwarf trees and some other substantial pieces. Maybe even some rock features.
Unfortunately I am just renting a house right now, but hope to buy in 1-2 years. At that point I will do a complete xeriscape when I know that the investment of time and money will be worth it. For now I get to "practice" in somebody else's yard!!!!!
cherishlife
Pocola, OK
(Zone 7a)

August 11, 2006
12:34 AM

Post #2608849

Even my xeriscape plants are having a hard time in this heat. My lavender is about dead, my salvia and artimesia looked sad and wilted until I watered a couple of days ago, and the coneflowers aren't doing so well either. I've pretty much neglected them thinking they were supposed to be xeriscape plants, but it's just so hot and so dry, they are not doing very well. So it's back to deep watering once every week or two to keep them going until it rains. I may do more than that to get them back to feeling better.

hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 11, 2006
12:46 AM

Post #2608878

I am having the same problem with my artimesia wilting along with a few others I`ve been experimenting too but so far the only way I got some to perk up is to cover them w/ green shade cloth just to save them from shock.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

November 8, 2006
5:51 AM

Post #2893340

Are these usda or sunset zones?
jkom51
Oakland, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 10, 2006
3:20 PM

Post #2900846

Most people use USDA zones. Sunset zones are more familiar to Western gardeners.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

November 13, 2006
7:47 PM

Post #2910416

Even in zone 5a the coneflowers, sedum, liatris, wormwood, and a few others wilt if we haven't had rain for a while. The dianthus seem to take the heat the best.
rebecca30
Cary, NC
(Zone 7b)

September 16, 2007
3:07 AM

Post #3980245

Hi recently discovered 'Purslane'- portulaca oleracea. I purchased about 2 weeks ago from Lowe's. The label said Drought tolerant, blooms summer to fall, and I noticed butterflys landing on the blooms.


I will see if I can get a better pic this week. There are about 8-10 blooms on it this evening. This was when it was first transplanted.


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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

September 16, 2007
6:52 PM

Post #3981961

they do good here in the desert and I like the little roses they get.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 14, 2007
7:16 PM

Post #4082241

I don't know if this is the same as the ''weed'' I pull all summer or not. Those I pull can lie on the dirt for a week and if a root touches the ground and it rains, I swear they green right up! I've never tried eating them, but they sound like an ideal food.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

October 14, 2007
10:05 PM

Post #4082717

There's a weedy portulaca which is probably what you are always pulling, and then there are more ornamental ones that have larger flowers and don't spread out of control quite as much, those are typically the ones you'll find at garden centers.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 14, 2007
10:14 PM

Post #4082741

I never knew there were ornamentals. Thanks!

Chantell

Chantell
Middle of, VA
(Zone 7a)

October 15, 2007
1:49 AM

Post #4083567

All of the ones I plant - spread...I regularly cut them back during the summer to give room to the sedum and semps.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

October 15, 2007
1:58 AM

Post #4083603

I guess they behave different here--the weedy one still spreads everywhere, but the ornamental ones stay where I put them. Maybe it's our lack of summer rain--I never gave them much water, maybe once a week at most and they stayed very well behaved.

Chantell

Chantell
Middle of, VA
(Zone 7a)

October 15, 2007
2:05 AM

Post #4083626

Maybe your's can give mine a talking to...LOL. I love their color throughout the summer - just wish they'd stay in "their" area. :)
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

October 15, 2007
2:11 AM

Post #4083648

Maybe you could try watering them less? You get more rain than we do and obviously there's nothing you can do about that, but if you could avoid watering them in between rain they might not get so out of control.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

October 15, 2007
2:14 AM

Post #4083666

lol I've been a gardening fool today. I put the rest of the ammonium nitrate on my lasagna garden to break up the last of the cardboard and paper and straw with the winter (I pray we get them) rains so I can finally plant in March.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

October 22, 2007
11:09 PM

Post #4112094

:))

I hand-spread horse manure and turned it yesterday. Also hoping for rain. Today it rained some.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

October 23, 2007
2:44 AM

Post #4113115

Everyone pray we get rain soon before we completely burn up California.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

November 7, 2007
9:07 PM

Post #4168630

Believe it or not, I haven't had time to watch our local weather much less the national weather.

How did you do with the fires?
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

November 11, 2007
4:04 PM

Post #4181923

The first ones were about a half hour from us but no where close to our home. Thank God. Funny it sounds like all of California was on fire. It is wierd how the west is though. There is hours of driving out here where you never see anything but desert w/no houses anywhere near. The idiot arsonists can't start a fire there though.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

November 15, 2007
7:10 PM

Post #4196499

I'm glad you were ok. How was the smoke? Hopefully the wind was in the other direction and you had clean air.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

November 23, 2007
2:52 AM

Post #4221190

We were fine and the wind was in the opposite direction from the usual when we have Santa Anna conditions like when the fires happened.

happy TG everyone.

Last night we had our first freeze and lost one seedling and my wooly Pletancthrus wilted over a bit so I will go cover the monster up tonight and see if it helps.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

November 30, 2007
12:32 AM

Post #4244530

Giggling, I'm picturing a dinosaur :))

Verbascum seems to do well with the roots of a maple. I only water when I transplant.

Verbascum, Phonecian Hybrids

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 10, 2007
1:45 PM

Post #4280216

We go through extremes here. It rains volumes ~ then is totally dry for extended periods. As a result of the dry, I am interested in more drought tolerant plants. At the same time, our heat is intense.

My question is this ~ I need to improve beds for xeric plants. We have too much clay which won't drain well. I want to raise beds that will shed rain during the flooding. I know it needs to be a leaner soil for most of these plants. What will be the best things to amend with? I am contemplating Penstemons, Scutellarias and Agastaches for starters.

Enjoying this thread ~ thank you...

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 11, 2007
11:28 PM

Post #4285356

I got this from High Country Gardens.

Soil drainage is a very important factor to consider when planting Salvia, Agastache, Lavender, Penstemon and other perennials that like well-drained soil. The essential element in a well drained soil is oxygen, which is just as important as water in growing healthy plants. Soil that is water-logged does not drain well and is anaerobic (oxygen deficient) resulting in drowned and rotted roots.

If you have clay soil and wish to preserve your tools and sanity, amendments or raised beds are a must. Mix the native clay half and half with coarse sand or crusher fines. (DON’T use fine sand; this will create concrete.)
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 12, 2007
2:16 AM

Post #4286017

Thanks Billyporter ~ I appreciate the info. That should help steer me in the right direction. I am intending to try Agastache, Penstemon and more Salvia.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

December 15, 2007
12:49 PM

Post #4296635

I have clay too and found that out the hard way that everything that grows in this area that is a native and drought tollerant likes very ammended soil or raised beds. Lost a lot of money finding that out.
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 15, 2007
1:19 PM

Post #4296707

LOL ~ I remember some of your early posts. Here, I have kept much in pots and if I plant in ground, I watch the plant like a hawk. If it shows signs of suffering, I uproot it and repot.

Our clay also suffers from cotton root rot (the common name as I can't immediately call the technical disease). I have lost plants that should easily grow in the clay here.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

December 28, 2007
5:21 AM

Post #4333873

I think my clay here has fungus too the kind that you need to sterilize the soil to kill. It isn't everywhere but I know in a certain area it has it. The lasagna garden is my great hope for this year.

Pots are good as long as they are on timers and a watering system.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 4, 2008
6:58 PM

Post #4360364

I think I feel pretty fortunate to not have clay. Do you try adding bags of better dirt and compost to it or does the clay seem to just eat it up?
doccat5
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 4, 2008
7:10 PM

Post #4360397

Clay takes time to rebuild, but composting will take care of the problem. I have or had VA red clay here and with time and plenty of compost, most of my 3/4 acre lot is black loam. Lasagna gardening is a great way to go, if you don't have a tiller or access to one.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 4, 2008
7:15 PM

Post #4360417

Clay also has a lot of natural nutrients too doesn't it? I saw the red clays long a go on Victory Garden and was very glad I didn't have to shovel thru it!
doccat5
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 4, 2008
7:25 PM

Post #4360437

Red clay has a lot of "trace" elements so it actually adds to the process. Over time compost will turn it to black loam, but it takes time and patience. Every time you add compost your are enriching your soil, drawing the worms in, which help aerate the soil and their castings are like gold. Good stuff! Worms love wet shredded newspaper and coffee grounds, it will bring em in a NY minute. I guess they like to read the paper and drink coffee too...LOL
If you're really interested try the soil and composting discussion. Lots of good information in there and many different methods of doing composting. Very interesting.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 4, 2008
8:05 PM

Post #4360510

I compost on a small scale and use it up every year. I save all my vegetable scraps, coffee grounds, tea bags, eggshells etc. in a coffee can and dump it when it's full, but I'm careful about the weeds I put in it now. Chickweed doesn't seem to die.

I tried layering newspaper around my tomato plants this year, but the paper didn't soak up very well. I guess they have changed it over the years. They do use soybean ink.

Re-reading thru the plant lists here, I've decided I would like a few lavenders too. I have salvias and really like them. I'd like to support the bees that I seem to still have.

doccat5
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 4, 2008
8:20 PM

Post #4360549

Billy, wet your newspaper, it makes a world of difference. I use a 5 gallon bucket with a lid for all veggie scraps, egg shells, home use coffee grounds etc. If I'm composting weeds, they go in the middle of the pile where it's hottest. We have a friend of a friend who delivers newspapers and she keeps me well supplied. I just provide the big trash bags and pick up. I also get 5 gal buckets of coffee grounds from Starbucks at least twice a week. I provide 5 gal buckets with lids and lots of thank you's! And occasional homemade treat, fresh flowers or veggies when their in season. Nice folks and I have generated some interest in gardening among the non-gardeners. I'm trying to work this up into a project for Master Gardener hours. I just got my cert in November. It's fascinating watching people start to "think" well I could do that too! LOL

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 4, 2008
8:58 PM

Post #4360640

That's great!

I used to go to the hairdressers and get hair, but I think most of it was colored, so I quit. I did wet the paper, but it doesn't wet well. It sort of repelled most of the summer. It was hard to turn under too. The shovel didn't cut thru it well.
doccat5
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 5, 2008
12:21 AM

Post #4361322

I use an old square tub filled with water and lay the newspaper down in that. Allow it to soak at bit. You must have been using quite a few layers if you were having trouble getting a shovel thru it. That's ok, it will break down over time. Am not sure what you're "repelling" with newspapers? Hair for deer, newspaper for weeds...LOL

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 8, 2008
7:55 PM

Post #4376213

I was turning the hair under in the garden in the fall and digging it in around the rose bushes. This was many many years ago. Our newspaper isn't like it used to be. I did have a few layers for weed control around the tomatoes. It just didn't want to soak the water up. I might try it again. My Dad has some tubs. I think I'll ask for one.

Chantell

Chantell
Middle of, VA
(Zone 7a)

January 11, 2008
5:17 PM

Post #4387635

Hmmmm very interesting conversation...Doc are there particular plants that like the doffee grounds more then others and how frequently do you provide it to the plants. Never knew about shredded newspaper either (note to self - bring paper to work, shred...take home)
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

February 2, 2008
12:43 AM

Post #4484102

I have a huge lasagna bed that has been going since this time last year and it is mostly broke down but I used so much cardboard and whole phone books that they took time since we had a record drought last year until now so it is doing better now. I have cubes of alfalfa pellets everywhere which helped a lot when it was in an area that gets watered regularly but not much in the areas where there was no water.

We are getting a lot of rain so I spread the cubes all around the property. I guess I will need a lot more lasagna beds. My dh hates them because they look so ugly for so long, especially if I have them out front. We have phone book pages blowing around all the time. We have alot of wind here.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

February 2, 2008
12:47 AM

Post #4484116

This was it from about 5 months ago, atleast in part. It is backed up to this cargo container.

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

February 2, 2008
12:58 AM

Post #4484141

This is it and it will be nice one day but we just started this side at the end of the spring and mid summer so it was too hot and needed more worms besides the lasagna garden issue.

My husband is listening to this old music from Limewire, do you remember that song STRAWBERRY LETTER (SOME NUMBER). I AM IN DISCOland here now. lol

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billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2008
9:43 PM

Post #4495515

Hellnzn11, I think your beds look fine. I love new beds and hope you post pictures of the finished project. I see a lot of potential! Your phone pages remind me of my coffee filters that escaped. I quit adding them for the neighbor's sake.

ROTFL over the old song! Never heard of them.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

February 5, 2008
1:31 AM

Post #4496482

If you are over 35 you heard the song but just don't know it by name. I didn't either but he has been trying to download it for a year on Limewire.

Thanks. I need extra topping for the loose paper stuff. The circle area is going to be a memorial bed for my dog Mushi that I had to put down a week ago. ♥ So I am trying to figure out what I will put there for my babies memorial. I need more ammending in that spot. One of my DG friends has too many cannas so she is mailing me some, but I am not sure what else to put in there, it needs to be stuff that stays inbound with the grass there.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2008
12:25 AM

Post #4500018

I'm so sorry about Mushi. What kind of dog was he/she?

Well, I'm 50 and I guess I'd have to hear it. I'm kind of beyond the disco age : }

Do you let your cannas stay in the ground or do you dig and replant the larger corms each year?
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

February 6, 2008
5:25 AM

Post #4501332

I don't have any, my friend is sending me some she needs to thin the herd. I had some but we flooded that year and they rotted.

Mushi was a black Shar Pei, his daughter is a fawn, I still have her. She is old too.

What are crusher fines?

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2008
6:58 PM

Post #4503321

I found Mushi on the pet forum. I don't usually have time to go there. He was some dog. What a sad story. You gave him your best and that's all they ask.

I have no idea what crusher fines are. Did I write it somewhere?
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

February 8, 2008
6:03 PM

Post #4512275

No up above someone else did, about 10 threads up or so. Thanks. I am better. I just love on his dd when I want to cry.
NatureWalker
New York & Terrell, TX
(Zone 8b)

April 6, 2008
1:43 AM

Post #4763594

~ Bump ~


~* Robin ☺
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 7, 2008
2:55 AM

Post #4768998

What does bump mean?
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2008
3:02 AM

Post #4769052

People use it to "bump" the thread back up to the top of the page if it's slipped down the page where nobody notices it anymore. Usually people do it if it was their thread and the question they asked hasn't been answered yet, bumping it back to the top of the page means more people will see it. Or I've also seen it used if it was a thread with a lot of good info in it that would be valuable for people to look at again.
NatureWalker
New York & Terrell, TX
(Zone 8b)

April 7, 2008
3:26 AM

Post #4769186

^_^ - wink!
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 8, 2008
12:01 AM

Post #4772793

What are you doing to bump it up though? Just scrolling or is there a setting I am unaware of?
NatureWalker
New York & Terrell, TX
(Zone 8b)

April 8, 2008
12:19 AM

Post #4772909

No Helen, when you reply or post to a thread, it just bumps the thread up to the front page so others can find it, view it & read it.

~* Robin
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 10, 2008
2:26 AM

Post #4784761

Ok thanks for the clarification.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 11, 2008
1:59 PM

Post #4791792

saw it too, really nice. I am visiting in Vegas and my friends said that they offered $1100,from the city to remove the grass and put in a xeriscape.
NatureWalker
New York & Terrell, TX
(Zone 8b)

April 11, 2008
4:32 PM

Post #4792548

Hi wood_fern,

I recently bought This magazine "All-Seasons Garden Guide" from the Old Farmer 's Almanac now Only $3.99.
It had all the same info that you said. It was really worth it.

Check it out here: http://store.almanac.com/cgi-bin/3F808747/mac/additmdtl.mac/showItemDetail?item=OF08GG&qtyA=860&phsO=N&desc=Garden%20Guide%202008&drpshp=N&alOrd=Y&iQty=.000&oQty=.000&initQty=1&assortParent=N&itemForSale=Y&styleName=&fixD=&face=.00&gftc=&stck=Y&prefS=&calledFrom=DS&ordInfo1=&ordInfo2=&ordInfo3=&ordMan1=N&ordMan2=N&ordMan3=N&persCode=&persReqd=&persLink=%20&shipRemaining=0&daysBetween=0&daysBetweenFix=0&monthsBetween=0

~* Robin
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 13, 2008
5:41 PM

Post #4802431

I just got back from a visit w/friends in Vegas and there the growth is so out of hand and off what they ever forsaw when they built the Hoover Dam that now they will pay you to remove your grass and replace it w/ xeriscape.
NatureWalker
New York & Terrell, TX
(Zone 8b)

April 13, 2008
5:45 PM

Post #4802446

WoW!! ROTFLMAO

~* Robin
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 13, 2008
5:45 PM

Post #4802448

About the Vegas thing?
NatureWalker
New York & Terrell, TX
(Zone 8b)

April 13, 2008
7:01 PM

Post #4802760

No... about the fact that you stated [quote]they will pay you to remove your grass and replace it w/ xeriscape.[/quote]

Helen; I wish you can see the Xeriscaping inside of the book that I purchased from up above!!

~* Robin
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 13, 2008
7:07 PM

Post #4802785

I wish they'd do that out here...I had to pay a lot of good money to have my lawn removed! lOL
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

May 2, 2008
1:45 AM

Post #4894242

In all the western states they should do that like Edison does when you get a new energy saver appliance or get rid of an old one.

I wish I could see that too. My friend here sent me a great one too and it got me excited because people tend to think boring and sparce, not flowering and lush as it can be done.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2008
8:37 PM

Post #5291642

hellnzn11,

You posted last year on the fires, and again, over 800 in California were burning at one time. I still love living here though it is a danger. Now if our trees dry up, and we don't use much water in our gardens, will the rest of California go up in smoke too?

I, too, have clay soil, no lawn, and live in a rural area. (Though getting less rural by the minute!) It is 20 miles to the nearest town - Placerville.

I tried mixing sand with clay years ago, and got concrete! Then I tried mulch, perlite and sand, and mixed all that with the clay. For some plants I put in grit at the bottom of the hole and add that to the mix, with the clay. That worked. If I plant anything, I have to make a raised bed over the clay. Yes I amend the clay every year, loads of mulch, where does it go?

For those of you in California, Amend and Gromulch, are good bagged products, as we have no barnyard animals to make proper compost. I tried composting and ended up with an unsightly garbage pile. Maybe I should invest in the commercial compost makers, where everything goes in then comes out compost? Has anyone tried them?
lisabees
Centennial, CO
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2008
7:25 AM

Post #5294612

Evelyn, composting is pretty easy, but it does take some effort even with a commercial bin (SO worth it though). Check out the Soil & Composting forum for tips: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/soil/all/
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2008
9:51 PM

Post #5314099

I support Lasagna gardens whole heartedly. It is easy and not fussy like composting in a bin.

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