I've been looking it up for you, and I ran across this name, the flowers look like a match. I can only see the flowers, the leaves do not show enough to be identified. Possibly from Mexico requiring tropical conditions. You did a great job on the picture, I wish mine came out that well. Norma
This might be right, at least it will give you something to go on. Rhipsalis heptagona Rauh et Backb. Norma
It is indeed. Expect to hear from me when the weather warms in the spring! Just posting it on this forum might be the easiest way to get trades of them going. Did you notice how many buds are on the plant? When I first saw them I thought they would get much larger before any of them opened, so I was surprised to see tiny flowers! PerennialGirl, can I send things like that to Canada?
I've gotten plants from the US and as long as it says cuttings or without soil there isn't a problem so far. Here is the link to my pictures on webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/gardeningperennialgirl
In the cactus and succulent folder there is a picture of my red ephi.
What is a CITES list? I sent a bareroot Aloe (I have a huge variety that blooms in about 3 years) to California once and it took over 3 weeks to get there...still survived, though. A bit battered, even though I mailed it in a tube.
I'd love one of those white fringed epis, though, and would be happy to trade for one of these (anyone know the correct name?) Also happy to send cuttings within Canada, if the consensus is that it won't cross the border.
The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) sets controls on the international trade and movement of animal and plant species that have been, or may be, threatened due to excessive commercial exploitation.
Environment Canada (EC) is the lead agency responsible for implementing CITES on behalf of the federal government.
I should have added to my post above that I have a very large night-bloooming white epi, and a smaller red with a purple blush. Should have cuttings for either to trade.
Kachinagirl, I'd love a cutting later of the zig-zag and the peach. Doubt I will have anything in trade you might want, though so put me at the bottom of the list for SASE/postage if you have enough. Thanks!.
Wow Mary, that is very pretty. I have never gotten it to bloom in my home conditions but it just keeps getting longer and larger all the time. Now at least I can know what the flower looks like. I gave another piece to another friend with a greenhouse and his has not bloomed either but his is in almost full shade under his orchid bench.
I will be watching this thread to see if it gets identified. I brought a piece of it home in my luggage back in 1995 from Massachusetts when Mom and I rode the train out there and home. Ten days on the train isn't my cup of tea but I came home with some neat plants from my Aunt's friend.
This was origionally from a yard in southern Florida. That is all I know.
Oh boy, Rose, that is a beauty. I would love to get a start of that one. Well, ok, I'm greedy because I don't have any others so I want them all. KachinaGirl, yours are really pretty too, I'm drooling here. My knowledge of these plants would fit on the head of a pin but I think they are beautiful and unusual. When Ponditis gave me the start of hers I asked her what it was and she didn't know, said she had it several years and gave some away and it hadn't bloomed.
Perennial Girl--I'd be happy to send you cuttings from that pink cactus--do you know what kind of epi it is?--but I think I'd better wait until the weather is warmer; it would freeze its little spines off in the mail truck at the moment! I do have the red epi already so don't need more. Anyhow, when the time comes, remind me and I'll package some up. Here's a picture of one of my reds--it had 14 blossoms out at once but I couldn't get a frontal shot!
Chilko, I would luv to trade something for a pink one of yours. Here is the link to my webshots. Check out the color of my red one to see if it's different. I can't tell proper colors right now because my monitor has lost it's true colors...lol. I think it went on strike. I do have other cactus/succulents there to view.
Chilko, I have the pink one you have. Is it flat-leaved like a christmas cactus only bigger? Are the flowers smaller than most epis? They sure look the same to me. Here's my attempt at identification and some photos of mine: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/454786/
I found it's name on the ecology website above: Disocactus phyllanthoides (also called about 7 other names including water lily cactus). I'm so grateful, Clare, for that website!! I will eventually post it on the database and if yours is the same you can post more photos, Chilko!
I also would love to trade for the peach and the ric-rac, Kachinagirl. Would you like a piece of the pink? What else? Could you use seeds of Hippeastrum 'Merengue'? I have a handful of new seeds (bloomed Thanksgiving). Not sure id they will be true if it's a hybrid. http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/470310/
Gosh this is fun!
Waiting on Kachina, but I also have seeds from my grandmother's plant-hippeastrum striatum (species from Brazil). Unless the flying squirrel that was trapped in the house one weekend ate them all! I'll check. No he didn't get many. Lots left. This plant is guaranteed-I've grown good seedlings last year and they are making nice little bulblets. Here is a photo.
If my seeds are what you want, I'd love some of those yellow (!!) flax seeds I saw on your webshots! I assume they will grow here in zone 5. I have blue, which I always have in every garden, but never saw a yellow!
Hi Boojum! I would love to trade. I do have to wait for the Epis to bloom this spring tho, my dutiful DH cleaned the porch last year and messed up my Epi "order"...I have to label them as for color when they bloom in case he does it again this year! LOL The rick-rack is obvious, the others are so similar I forget which is which! I have never gotten the "hang" of amaryllis...it is gorgeous but they just don't do well for me, so I'll stick to the epi trade with you but thanks for the offer. Please give the Hippeastrum 'Merengue' you offered me to Perennialgirl/Donna! I'm sure you and I can come up with something to trade! Karen :~D
boojum, I didn't save any yellow flax last year but I will make sure I save this year or maybe I can find a baby for you. If you want to try for seeds of something else, let me know. I would luv seeds of your other amaryllis to try and thankyou Kachinagirl for offering me the other ones.
Karen, we will talk in the spring. I will put you on the list since my brain is useless. BTW, I found that when I followed directions about dormancy and cold for amaryllis they all died, but as soon as I just treated them like all my other plants (water once a week, fertilize, put em outside in summer) they never died! Also they like being cramped.
So, Donna, I can send you the 2 hippeastrum seeds now, right? I'll send them in an envelope so no package issue to Canada. I'm happy to have a place to send them-I was feeling guilty! Donna send me an e-mail so I know where to send them. We can work out your end in spring.
Here's my only photo of my red epi. It was my late mother's plant. This summer it only had a few blooms but the summer before it must have had 20 blooms.
I had to laugh at your note Boojum...I must also make notes for future trades, can't seem to remember them either! Have placed you, Darius, Rose318, & Perennialgirl in my trade tracker for spring epi trades. We'll get in touch then! (did I miss anyone???)
BTW Darius...looks like I may be coming to NC in July. To visit friends in Raleigh.
I have an idea...let's start an "Epi Trade Club" thread in spring...that way we may even get more people participating and more variety! We can each list what and how many we have avail and go from there...probably easier than trying to remember all this or even find this thread again in a few months! I will keep my current list of what we have discussed so these promises for spring get first attention. Whatcha think? :~D
The plant that started this thread is actually a Rhipsalis but Joseph @ www.ecology.org couldn't ID it from my pictures so I will send him a cutting in the spring when it won't freeze enroute. He will grow it out and ID it when it blooms, kind of a long process. But we will know eventually. Here is an updated photo that was taken 2 days ago.
What's the source? If you are copying the URL from the address bar, it should work to copy it and paste. However, sometimes the addresses are just too long and they don't work. Doesn't happen often, but it DOES happen.
Wow, lots of information, thank you. I don't believe my blooms have any red color at all, have to go look again when it is light in the greenhouse. I sent the first 2 photos that I posted here to Joseph at the ecology website and he could not make a positive ID from them, so there must be some really subtle differences. I want to have it right before it goes into the Plant Files (formerly PDB). I can't send a cutting anywhere until spring because of cold weather. So, the ID could be quite slow comming. Have patience, gardeners!
Mary, I think they mean the stems turn red in the sun, and when left in the sun, you can see reddish veins. That is true of my plant. I see what you mean now because there is red on the outside of the flower in that picture in that last link whereas yours are pure white.
You are right that yours certainly could be different, but I think it has to be pretty close to Rhipsalis rhombea, which apparently is also called: R. crispata, R. occidentalis, R. pachyptera, R. elliptica, and R. oblonga.
The third link I gave you describes the flowers like this:
"Developing on the sides of these stems are small flowers only 1-centimetre (3/8-inch) long, light yellow at first, turning to canary yellow with age. Later, after the flowers are finished, they develop dark red fruit."
Your flowers look a little bigger than this so you may have a different species or a variant of the same species.
I'm gonna show my ignorance here with terms but here is what I see. Before the buds open the outer covering has a slight blush to it. When the flower opens that covering folds back against the little stem of the bud, and is still a blush but isn't noticeable because the flower has opened back against it. Where all the stamens (?) come out of the center of the flower there is some of that same blush way down in the center. Otherwise the flower is white, not snowy white but kind of creamy. So far they don't seem to change color with age.
I have a Rhipsalis that I found at Home Depot of all places, that I believe may be Crispa http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/478640/
This is what I read about R Crispa in "The Complete Book of Cactus & Succulents" book by Terry Hewitt.
"The edges of the spineless, leaflike stems are often crinkled to differing degrees. The cactus grows slowly, but eventually forms a prostrate or pendant bush. It has small cream flowers. It also states that this species is more difficult that most Rhipsalis to bring to flower. This sounds like what Mary & I both have; plus Mary is doing something right to get hers to flower.
Awanda, I think yours and mine are alike, as nearly as I can tell with an amateur's eye. Call it beginner's luck on the blooming. I started the plant in a small jar of water, anchored it by partly filling the jar with pebbles before adding a couple of kind of long calloused over branches that hung down over the windowsill, and plain water. Now and then when I was fertilizing my houseplants it got a bit of liquid fertilizer, an all purpose type. For about a year it sat on my windowsill and grew roots and new leaves until I got the greenhouse and potted it up. I probably just used ordinary potting soil. Now and then it gets some weak liquid fertilizer and when it looks dry I water it. The plant to pot ratio is looking uneven now, but maybe it is one that has to be potbound before it will bloom. On the other hand, a plant that lives in the crotch of a tree in the jungle doesn't have a pot, probably can put the roots anyplace it wants, and doesn't get as much sun as mine, so that makes me wonder about everything! You see what I mean about beginner's luck. If you look at the first photo I posted of it with just a few blooms you can see that the edges of some of the leaves got crispy and black from excessive sun this summer.
Norma, the stems are all flat. The oldest ones have a pronounced center but it is round like a twig with the leaft part on both sides.
Also I'm sorry but it is not a R. rhombea .
R. rhombea has very crinkled leaves, deep green leaves, and will have red edged lobes. I have both plants so I can compare. I just need to flower them. Norma
I have tried to find this plant in books or on the net for 10 years now and haven't found it for sure yet. I do love this plant though as at our house it can take very low light and some neglect although I have never gotten a bloom from it. Over the years I have shared pieces of it with lots of people and Mary is the first that has gotten blooms as far as I know. Looks like she did right by the plant and it is rewarding her.
Did you ever get an ID on this plant? I got one that I'm almost sure is the same plant at a Car Boot Sale about 6 months ago without a name, but I have tentatively IDed it as Rhipsalis houlletiana.
Here is a close-up picture of mine, with a fruit! It had many many flowers, but so far only the one fruit.
No, I never did send a piece of it to that collector to get a positive ID. It's cool that your plant produced that fruit, it is something I never thought to look for on mine. More of mine is kind of hidden than is exposed so I will check to see if I missed one. Is your fruit from the last blooming period? Did you save it, cut it open, or do anything with it? I would guess it would have seeds. In the jungle a bird or a monkey would eat it and deposit the seeds somewhere which would sprout and produce a new plant.
That fruit is still on the plant! That is a very recent photo. I plan to plant the seed(s) but at the moment we are having 40 F overnight lows and daytime temps are only reaching about 60 F, so I think I might save the seed until spring and some warmer weather. Given that it's a central american epiphyte, I don't think our current winter weather would be too kind to tiny seedlings.
My plant was in pretty ratty shape when I purchased it - sunburned, dead ends & broken stems - my mother was with me that day and said "What do you want that ugly thing for?" but I knew it was something interesting, and it only cost me AU $4! The plant just keeps on flowering in flushes about 4 to 6 weeks apart - I can't work out if I made it happy by repotting it and it is "thanking" me, or if I scared it and it thinks it is going to die! Hopefully the former as it seems pretty healthy. Given the amount of flowers it has had, I thought one pod was a bit stingy, but I guess it lacks a suitable native pollinator here in Australia. When the next flush of flowers is open I will attack them with a small paint brush and see if I can up the fruit set.
Here's an update: I now have TWO fruits! The first one is now a much darker magenta pink/red colour but still very firm and not willing to come off the stem, and the second one looks much like the first one did a month ago. In addition I now have quite a few flowers which look like they may set fruit as they have not dropped away from the plant like the earlier ones did. Perhaps it was the exceptionally cold weather we have been having this winter which was preventing fruit set. I'm not too worried about getting the seeds out yet, since there is still a month of winter to go and it is far too cold to start any cacti seeds, let alone one from these tropical type plants. I'll keep you posted when I have further developments. Kaelkitty.