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judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 6, 2005
9:08 PM

Post #1387836

I'm so confused... can someone tell me the name of this Datura. I thought it was Wrightii but it does not have a fragrant smell.

I have 3 packages of 15 seeds each to give away.

Judy

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Liila
Lantana, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 6, 2005
9:50 PM

Post #1387914

Hello!

I'd be delighted to partake of your generosity! I just received a purple datura baby from Logee's and would like to add to my collection!

Thanks,

Liila
golgi
Willoughby, OH
(Zone 5a)

April 6, 2005
10:24 PM

Post #1387950

Oh,Judy,I would love some seeds of that.! I have a few seeds of double triple purple if you would like some. Or is there any thing else you are looking for?
Gail
imzadi
Jackson, SC
(Zone 8a)

April 6, 2005
10:41 PM

Post #1387982

oh i would love it too. pretty.
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 6, 2005
10:48 PM

Post #1388003

golgi & imzadi.

Tell you what... I'll send you all seeds and in return you all send seeds to Liila, she's a new Dave's Subscriber!!!

Liila, is your purple a triple? If not would you like triple purple seeds from golgi?

Judy
imzadi
Jackson, SC
(Zone 8a)

April 6, 2005
10:57 PM

Post #1388015

ill gladly send her some and some lilac le fluer. mine went crazy last season and have seeds still left. its the pale lavendar one (little flowered). i have some yellow ones here somewhere. will send her a few of those too.
golgi
Willoughby, OH
(Zone 5a)

April 7, 2005
2:17 AM

Post #1388369

Sounds wonderful.! Do you need SASE,SASBE,postage? All we need is Liila's addy.
Gail
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 8, 2005
12:50 AM

Post #1390131

lilla, golgi & imzadi - send me your addresses and I'll get the seeds out to you ASAP

Judy
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

April 11, 2005
3:49 AM

Post #1395264

Y' All got distracted. LOL!!!!

what u have here is Datura Innoxia http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/factsheets/annuals/downythornapple.html , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_inoxia

edited due to link not working

This message was edited Jun 4, 2008 6:27 AM
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 14, 2005
6:20 PM

Post #1403036

Thanks MaVie!!!
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 14, 2005
6:21 PM

Post #1403039

golgi & imzadi

Seeds sent today. Liila pls send your address.

Judy
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 15, 2005
1:51 PM

Post #1404460

I have enough seeds available for 3 more people. Please post here if you want me to send some to you.

Judy
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:39 AM

Post #1409831

Judy, actually it is pretty difficult to tell the difference between Datura wrightii and Datura inoxia since both have such similar characteristics. Dr. Preissel in his book describes the differences, but they are very slight. He talks about the size and width of the flowers as well as their peaks. ABADS attempts to clarify this issue. Here's the link: http://www.americanbrugmansia-daturasociety.org/datura_inoxia.htm

This message was edited Apr 17, 2005 6:41 PM
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 18, 2005
1:45 AM

Post #1409835

Thank you very much for the link.

Judy
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 18, 2005
1:50 AM

Post #1409841

Gosh MaVie, such a small difference but you pinned it down. You are absolutely right about it being Datura Innoxia. Here is what the ABADS website had to say

"Corolla teeth at midpoint of each
section are larger (giving the
appearance of a ten-toothed
flower), flower edge wavy and
show no color tinge at corolla
edge (flower is solid white)
subspecies innoxia

Also known as D. inoxia, or
sometimes D. meteloides due to
historical confusion"


Judy


MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

April 18, 2005
1:51 AM

Post #1409843

Datuta wrightii bloom has tinge of blue along the edge... whereas D. innoxia is pure white bloom.

Datura wrightii is formerly Datura metel var. rubra. here is whole plant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Datura , http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?where-taxon=Datura+wrightii see the bluish/lavender margin along the edge of the flower?

Datura innoxia http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DAIN2

edited due to links used before no longer work for



This message was edited Jun 4, 2008 6:31 AM
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 18, 2005
1:52 AM

Post #1409844

MaVie you posted at the same time I did. See mine!!!

Judy
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

April 18, 2005
2:02 AM

Post #1409860

LOL Judy, after planting for so many years, and documenting by the use of digital camera. i believe i know what i am talking about, modesty aside ... hehehehehe.
imzadi
Jackson, SC
(Zone 8a)

April 18, 2005
11:40 PM

Post #1411689

mine came in todays mail.
golgi
Willoughby, OH
(Zone 5a)

April 19, 2005
12:00 AM

Post #1411724

Judy,I received the seeds today! thank you so much! gonna soak them tonight and get them planted!
Gail
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 19, 2005
12:45 AM

Post #1411799

Ma Vie, those are great pictures! Thanks for posting them and helping the clarify the D. wrightii and D. inoxia differences.
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 4, 2008
9:37 AM

Post #5050519

sorry Clare for very late response. i prolly was in the hospital at the time u post. it is always my pleasure to help whenever i can. i am much better now after the angio plasti procedure -->where the arteries to the heart was cleared from blockage.

this is an old thread pls take note date. i did change some links cuz they became inactive.

ma vie

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