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The Epis Are Here, The Epis Are Here!! 2005

Northern California, CA

Oh, you thought I had flowers huh?? LOL

I thought perhaps it would be a good idea to start a new thread since the other one is getting very long and the race is on as the buds mature. So, please all you Epi lovers.....post your buds or flower images here!

Edited to Add a Links to the prior threads for Epi Lovers!

The Epis Are Coming, The Epis Are Coming!! 2005
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/480652/

2004 Thread:
"The Epis Are Coming, The Epis Are Coming!!"
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/426034/

This message was edited Apr 20, 2005 4:44 AM

Modi'in, Israel

Would it be cheeky to start this thread with a question about what the heck this is????? It's another of my Dead Sea trip adoptees...this one was popped off of the GIGANTIC Mama plant with permission from one of the residents. No info on what the heck it is though. They did say that it has great big flowers....couldn't remember when or what color though LOL....very helpful ;-). At least they were generous and let me take a baby :-).

-Julie

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Modi'in, Israel

and here you can see that the stems have three sides.

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Northern California, CA

Hi Julie -

I have a couple of pieces in among my big Epi pots, they've never bloomed and have small but very sharp pickers. This is only a guess because of the triangular shape, Hylocereus undatus http://www.ecology.org/orchids/index5.html#epiCacti
Scroll down a bit and the last sentence for this entry is:

Quoting:
The species is easily recognisable by the triangular cross-section of its stem and the minimal spines.


Mine are relatively small, perhaps 1 1/2 inches across the cross section. Whatcha think?

PlantFiles: http://davesgarden.com/pf/adv_search.php?search_type%5Bcommon%5D=contains&searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&search_type%5Bfamily%5D=contains&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&search_type%5Bgenus%5D=contains&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=hylocereus&search_type%5Bspecies%5D=contains&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&search_type%5Bcultivar%5D=contains&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&search_type%5Bhybridizer%5D=contains&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&Search=Search

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

WOW, I'm even more in love with Epi's after seeing all the various colors on the ecology.org link. Several I MUST have... soon as I have more space. : )

Modi'in, Israel

Yup, I think you're right Candy. And that answers a question I have about another triangular stemmed cutting I was given at the garden center last summer. Thank you for helping with that. If it does turn out to be this, I certainly won't be disappointed :-)

Now back to our regularly scheduled Epi program....

sorry for the interruption :-)

-Julie

Mesilla Park, NM

I got one that bloomed a few days ago, but I'll be darned if I can get a good picture of it. Here she is, it is labeled "Red". This is the first one to open here.

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Northern California, CA

Oh congrats!!

I figured I was rushing it a bit with a "flowers" thread, but not too soon at all. I think the "reds" are so hard to capture.....the color is just so intense it messes with the camera's brain! It's a lovely Epi!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Candy, thanks for starting a new thread!

Julie, the buds that you posted over at the old thread are cool! They look great! I agree with Candy that your cacti is probably Hylocereus undatus. I have that one too. It could also be Hylocereus polyrhizus, which is very similar in flower, but the fruit has red flesh inside. The picture of the fruit over at PlantFiles is not right, I don't think. Here is a link which shows the differences in the fruit: http://tfphotos.ifas.ufl.edu/

Hi Antoinette! How are you dear? I hope you are okay. Your red one is gorgeous! I have a cutting from you labelled "Small Orange" that has two buds! Yay!

Here's another picture of mine from last night:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

This is a cool link about Hylocereus which I should have added: http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/dragon/index.htm

Modi'in, Israel

Thanks Clare! Cool link indeed! Both of them :-)

Gourd, congratulations! I think you've got the first bloom of the season! Hooray! :-)

-Julie

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

I just posted on the wrong thread! Oh well, here she is:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Close-up:

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So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

She's lovely!

Moose Jaw, SK(Zone 3b)

Ooooooooooooooooooooooh Clare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

in Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

It's Beautiful . Clare
Wow love the red one too Gourd!

Northern California, CA

LOL Clare! She is pretty enough to be posted several places for sure.

Just wonderful!

Mesilla Park, NM

Clare, that sure is pretty, it looks like a dainty little girl in her Easter dress.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

I knew it, I knew it! Never should have looked at this thread, cuz now I have to find a way to have some of these, too! Is it too dry here to grow them outside? Oh, dear, where am I going to put them?

Oh, I'm really in trouble now; I've just got to have one of those big beautiful flowers!

BTW, I have a CC (well, actually it's two holidays in one pot) that has not been happy in our new house. It's very big -- can I move it outside? Should I repot it? It bloomed a lot at our old place. After reading H's thread, I think it hasn't cooled enough -- this house is much warmer. What do y'all think?

Kathleen

Modi'in, Israel

Clare that is SOOOOO gorgeous! Such a lovely soft peachy color! I love it! Congratulations! Does she smell great too? :-)

-Julie

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Thanks so much, Everyone, for your kind words.

Julie, I am not detecting any fragrance just yet, but I will check on it tomorrow.

Kathleen, you should see some of Candy's previous threads where she posts some amazing pictures of flowers which are to die for. I'll dig them up for you tomorrow. I've got to get some sleep now. Yes, the CC should be moved outside and kept outside all year in your zone. It does need reduced light and cooler temperatures to set buds. I keep mine outside all year on the semi-covered patio. There are some great places to get epi's, but they start easily from cuttings if you can trade for them or get your hands on them somehow. I'll list some sources for you tomorrow. Nighty-nite!

Western, WI(Zone 4a)

Clare, that is one gorgeous flower. Now, is that an epi or what?
Pardon my ignorance, but am just learning about these plants in the last 6 months. Have always been around Xmas cactus's that my mother and grandmother had, plus MIL.

Maxine

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Julie,
I detected a very soft scent this morning, but it was gone this afternoon. It was very subtle but detectable.

Hi Maxine and Kathleen,

Yes, it is a epiphyllum hybrid. See these links for more information:

http://www.ecology.org/orchids/index5.html#Epis
http://graydavisepies.com/
http://www.epies.net/
http://junglecactus.com/care.htm

Here are some of Candy's threads:

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/426034/
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/429556/
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/429159/
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/429115/




Northern California, CA

No flowers here yet, but here's an update on the buds. During our recent precipitous drop in temps the tiny buds looked shrunken, rather dark in color, and generally fairly sad. They seem to be rebounding, but are still quite small and don't seem to be progressing very fast. I am however more hopeful than I was a few days ago.

As I mentioned at the top of the thread to Julie, I also have a few pieces of the "triangular" shaped leaves in the big Epi pots. Their thorns are nasty and they have never bloomed in all these years. Several different pieces now have buds on them. The buds are easy to distinguish from the Epi buds as seen in the next two images.

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Northern California, CA

This is another piece with a bud on the tip. There is a third frond with a tiny very dark red prickly bud that was too small to get an image of, but I will be watching it closely!

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Northern California, CA

And here is one of the big pots of "pink" of varying blossom sizes, none of these are named.....well I'm sure they have names, I just don't know them.

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Northern California, CA

And another view of a "pink" pot.

In the foreground hanging down is the "triangular" piece from above with two buds....it is considerably greener than the epi leaves.

This message was edited Apr 19, 2005 6:13 PM

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Northern California, CA

And here is a view of some of the "white" ones.

So that's the bud update at this point, more later......I hope!

Who else has flowers????

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Moose Jaw, SK(Zone 3b)

Not me but Imma crossing fingers and toes here for you Candy!!! Looking a bit silly but oh well.......

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

Well, Clare, you're not going to believe this turn of events!

I looked at some of the threads you so kindly passed on to me, and saw one where Candy mentioned the web site http://euphorbia.de

One of the menu items that caught my eye (no pun intended) was "Beware of the Poison." You see, for the past two days I've had terrible pain and burning in my left eye. I thought it was allergy related, but today it got so bad I was ready to go to urgent care. Finally, resting my eyes and flushing them repeatedly with drops began to help, but I will still have them checked when I go in for a routine check on Thursday. The symptoms were all there on the web site -- extremely painful -- and I remember wondering about the white sap on the Euphorbia I planted on Sunday.

So, there you go, one never knows how helpful information will be when it's given! I certainly know to be careful now. Thanks again.

Kathleen

Northern California, CA

Evening Kathleen -

I've tried to remember to always make a note on the Euphorbias that I enter in the PlantFiles of this information about the latex found in Euphorbia (even the non-succulent forms can be problematic). It is important to be careful around them.....I have a good sized collection of them and have learned to treat them with respect. I was being completely careless within the last couple of years when I burned my face, not on a specimen in my collection, but in dealing with a Gopher spurge outside the back fence.

Amateur Digest
http://www.theamateursdigest.com/epoisons.htm

Gopher Spurge
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/23709/

So glad you are on the mend, it's a hard lesson to learn.

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Kathleen, I'm so sorry about your eye, and I'm so glad that you were able to figure out the cause of this injury. I had heard about the white sap causing eye injury. The white sap in plumerias will also cause eye injury. Do take care of yourself.

Candy, your epi's look great as always, and I predict you will have more flowers than you have ever had before. We'll be watching those buds carefully, especially the unusual-looking ones that haven't bloomed before. Those are cool!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Candy, I'm glad you are all right also. I didn't realize how poisonous Euphorbias are. Thanks for posting those links.

Valley Village, CA

Question, I have heard that the fruit is edible, is that true. Or only on certain species? I really want to know, Norma

MD &, VA(Zone 7b)

I'm glad you started a new thread. I didn't post on the other one, but lurked there occassionally looking for some pretty epi pics.

I've only got 2 epi's that my mom gave me, a pink and a red. The pink is blooming now and the red should be open any day. The buds are huge on the red, at least 6" long. I'll try to get some pics to post.

Northern California, CA

So glad to see some new faces joining us, welcome!

Clare and Gourd both have flowers and now jody too! Jody send your pics.......it's been a long dry spell since last year's flowers!


As we move into the flowering season let's not forget these other tidbits:

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None of us have mentioned it lately, but would we all still agree that this is about the world's homeliest plant except when it's blooming????? Not a pretty sight if they live outside and are grown "hard."

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And how about those snails???? They are just waiting for you to turn your back. Don't let up on the snail bait just because there are flower buds.....those are what the snails wait all year for too! (Just sprinkle a few pellets in the top of the plant and replenish as needed. I've been using Sluggo for a couple of years because it is safe around pets.)

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And there are different schools of thought on fertilizing tecniques, but my Epi's are especially hungry this time of year and are getting their regular doses of fish emulsion every couple of weeks.

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And we need pictures!! I do believe these are very vain plants and the more pictures you take the more buds you will get during the following seasons! :-)

Modi'in, Israel

Candy, thanks for those reminders! I forgot to get more snail pellets at the weekend and now i need to be doubly sure i don't forget this coming weekend....the plants will all be due for a sprinkle then :-)

And yep, some of the Epis sure wouldn't win any beauty contest as a plant without blooms LOL. Een when every stem is healthy and green and "lovely" the plant's lanky sprawly habit just makes it look like a mess. Oh well....the flowers make it worth it....and the homeliness can be hidden if the plants are growin in hanging baskets.....surrounded by other prettier plants like fuchsias ;-)

One of my littler buds got knocked off somehow. Luckily it was the smallest bud of all, so I refuse to be upset about it. I'm focused on that great big one...now about 6 inches long :-)

-Julie

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 4a)

Has anyone bought epi's from Jim's at http://www.epiuniverse.com/zen/ ??
I luv your peach one, Clare.
:) Donna

Modesto, CA(Zone 8b)

Here's one of mine from last year. It's a "no name" as far as I know.

K :~D

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Norma, Hylocereus undatus, also called Dragon Fruit, does indeed bear edible fruit which is supposed to be delicious. See this link: http://images.google.com/images?q=dragon+fruit&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=ii&oi=imagest and http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/dragon/

Candy, thanks for the reminders. I don't have a snail problem fortunately -- at least not in the back patio where my epi's are. They are all in front eating my brugs! I use Corey's Snail Bait, I think it is called. But you are right that the weathered look of epi's that are out all year is not that attractive. Although, I really do like the look of epi's in urns. Costco had some amazing urns that I would love to have for my epi's, but they are more than I can afford at this time. Someday, I will set all my epi's up in urns.

Julie, I'm sorry about your smaller bud. That happened to me too. I am looking forward to seeing your large one!

Thanks, Donna!

K, that pink is awesome!

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