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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:14 AM

Post #1409783

I compiled this list last year. I thought you might like to see it.

The following was taken directly from the book by Ulrike and Hans-Georg Preissel, Brugmansia and Datura, Angel's Trumpets and Thorn Apples and credit should be given to them for this information.

Datura stramonium (funnel-shaped small flowers with five sharp peaks; flowers are white- to creamy-colored or violet)
Datura stramonium var stramonium
Datura stramonium var stramonium f. stramonium
Datura stramonium var stramonium f. labilis
Datura stramonium var inermis
Datura stramonium var tatula
Datura stramonium var tatula f. tatula (has violet coloring in the center of the flower corolla)
Datura stramonium var tatula f. bernhardii
Datura stramonium var godronii

Datura ferox (five-peak small 2- to 2 1/2-inch flower of yellowish white; the flower usually does not open completely)

Datura quercifolia (oak-like foliage leaves; unremarkable small violet flowers with five short peaks; the flowers do not open completely)

Datura inoxia (flowers measure four inches across, are funnel-shaped, and are pure white; greenish veins end in five longer peaks)

Datura wrightii (flowers measure five inches across and are five to nine inches long; the upper section is usually violet to pale violet and have five peaks)

Datura ceratocaula (10-peak flower with inner sides of white to violet-pink and outersides have a bluish coloring.)

Datura discolor (One of the largest of the datura flowers; ten-peak flower with white upper section and a dark ring-shaped color of pale to dark violet in the center)

Datura metel (flowers are white or yellow or violet to red; fruits have conical humps)
Datura metel var metel (flowers are simple, white and double)
Datura metel var muricata (white flowers)
Datura metel var chlorantha (yellow flowers)
Datura metel var rubra (single flowers)
Datura metel var rubra f. rubra (single violet flowers)
Datura metel var rubra f. sanguinea (single red flowers)
Datura metel var obscura (flowers are single, violet or red)
Datura metel var obscura f. obscura (single violet)
Datura metel var obscura f. atropurpurea (single red)
Datura metel var fastuosa (outer portion of flowers are violet or red; inner portion is white)
Datura metel var fastuosa f. fastuosa (outer portion of flowers is violet)
Datura metel var fastuosa f. malabarica (outer portion is red)

Datura leichhardtii (ten-peaked small inconspicuous yellowish white flower, which do not open completely)
Datura leichhardtii ssp. pruninosa
Datura leichhardtii ssp. leichhardtii


Classification Key:
sec. = sectio, section
ssp. = sub-species
var = varietas, variety
f. = forma, form

Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:16 AM

Post #1409788

Here are some of my pictures from last year.

Datura Inoxia:

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:17 AM

Post #1409789

Datura wrightii:

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:18 AM

Post #1409790

Datura stramonium var tatula:

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:19 AM

Post #1409794

Datura metel var chlorantha

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:21 AM

Post #1409795

Datura metel var fastuosa

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judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

April 18, 2005
1:21 AM

Post #1409796

Beautiful!! Thank you so much for all the Great information and beautiful pix!!!

Judy
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:27 AM

Post #1409805

Datura metel var rubra

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:28 AM

Post #1409808

Datura stramonium var tatula

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:30 AM

Post #1409812

Sure, Judy. I hope it proves helpful for people trying to figure out what their Daturas are. I think most of the cultivars are one of the Datura metels.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:34 AM

Post #1409821

Datura wrightii

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2005
1:35 AM

Post #1409824

Datura inoxia:

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OhioBreezy
Dundee, OH
(Zone 5b)

June 3, 2005
12:26 AM

Post #1517490

nice info, thanks for sharing, and you have some lovely flowers!
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

June 3, 2005
6:41 PM

Post #1519293

Yes they are beautiful!!!

Thanks again

Judy
imzadi
Jackson, SC
(Zone 8a)

June 3, 2005
7:41 PM

Post #1519475

oh wow i just love the yellow one!!! great pics
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

June 9, 2005
6:51 PM

Post #1534405

Bumping this great thread up.

Judy
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

June 9, 2005
8:17 PM

Post #1534577

Thanks, Everyone!
imzadi
Jackson, SC
(Zone 8a)

June 16, 2005
7:00 PM

Post #1552347

now where do we find seeds from as i would love to have a few that are different.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

June 16, 2005
9:06 PM

Post #1552594

Seeds are plentiful of the Datura metel var. chlorantha (double/triple yellow) and Datura metel var. fastuosa (double/triple purple) and Datura wrightii and Datura inoxia and Datura stramonium. However, the others are harder to find quite frankly because they are not commerically appealing because the flower size is small, etc. or because they are rare.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 17, 2005
1:02 AM

Post #1553087

Hi Clare,
what is the soil composition you use. Like compost, composted manure, etc?
Rj
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

June 17, 2005
1:23 AM

Post #1553128

Rj, I grow Daturas in containers, and I just use regular potting soil, but Daturas will have a problem if the roots sit in wet soil. They like really good drainage and often do best if they are a little rootbound. They are heavy feeders and need fertilizer to bloom well, but I wouldn't use compost or composted manure in containers because they contain too many gases. If the compost or composted manure is mixed into the topsoil, then they should be fine for Daturas.
Shelly221
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)

June 17, 2005
3:15 AM

Post #1553353

This is great info! Thanks so much Clare. Hopefully when my "white" blooms I will be able to ID it from your pictures.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

June 17, 2005
3:24 AM

Post #1553370

Sure, Shelly. Your white is either Datura wrightii or Datura inoxia, and you should know that it is very difficult to tell the two apart. I have difficulty telling the two apart myself sometimes. The main difference lies in the peaks, and there are some other subtle differences as well. Both are beautiful and both are fragrant. Here's a link which attempts to distinguish them: http://www.americanbrugmansia-daturasociety.org/datura_inoxia.htm Dr. Preissel's book also attempts to distinguish them.
Shelly221
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)

June 17, 2005
3:41 AM

Post #1553401

Oh my! They sure do look alike! Thanks for the link! As long as it smells good, its ALL ok LOL.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

June 17, 2005
4:29 AM

Post #1553537

Shelly, they both smell like heaven:-)
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 17, 2005
9:16 PM

Post #1555116

Okay. The leaves on yours looks so much better than mine. Do you feed them miracle grow? Thanks alot for the tip. I didn't know that about the wet. I may have mine too damp. Mine are all in pots except the currant swirls. I think the heat here must play a roll as well. I have my swirls in the ground and they are about 6 fee tall. They stop blooming when the temp hits 90 on a daily basis. When it cools down in Oct, they will start blooming again. I have a couple of double cream ones that are root bound, but they're leaves are scrawny. They are also very tall, about 4 feet in a pot. I was wondering if they like more acidic fertilizer?
If you don't mind, I will take a picture of the tops of the double cream and see what you think.
Many thanks again.
Rj
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 17, 2005
9:28 PM

Post #1555140

I just got my new Brugmansias and Datura book in the mail! Checking it out now. Hmmm...thinking repotting is in order with better drainage. Rj

This message was edited Jun 17, 2005 3:28 PM
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

June 18, 2005
3:50 AM

Post #1556305

Rj,

Daturas will grow as big as the root system will allow. Confining the root system will confine growth so, if you want more compact daturas, grow them in a container that crowds the roots.

The leaves of the Datura stramonium var tatula are indeed large, and there are varients which have smaller leaves as well. The Datura stramonium in the picture above does happen to have large leaves.

Yes, I do feed my Daturas and all my heavy feeders Miracle Grow, and I also feed them with a Bloombooster/Bloombuilder formula, which has a high middle number (phosphorus) such as 10-52-10. Both Miracle Grow and Schultz makes a Bloombooster/Bloombuilder formulas, and some other companies do too.

I don't think they prefer acidic fertilizer, which has a high nitrogen number, but I could be wrong. Plants which prefer acidic are gardenias, azaleas, magnolias, etc.

Daturas do quite well in part sun. You could move your containers to a part sun area, which may be cooler, and that may help to continue blooming in the heat.

Did you get Dr. Preissel's book? You will love it!
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 23, 2005
1:04 AM

Post #1568896


Wow, Thanks for the info. I will put that to practice. Yes I did get that book, and I'm writing notes all over it already. Always so much to learn!
Rj
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

August 24, 2005
3:13 PM

Post #1716251

bump
OhioBreezy
Dundee, OH
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2005
5:47 PM

Post #1716673

good idea, thanks Judy!
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 24, 2005
10:37 PM

Post #1717272

what does bump mean? Rj
TARogers5
Kingston, OK
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2005
10:47 PM

Post #1717304

Means to bring this thread back to the top of the list for something you want everyone to see.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 25, 2005
1:33 AM

Post #1717659

Okay...thanks.
rj
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 25, 2005
1:37 AM

Post #1717671

Clare, I just realized I have BR61 that I feed the plumerias. I'm going to give that a try on the dats. I didn't have that when this thread started out. Glad I re-read it! or rather Bump! Rj
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 25, 2005
12:58 PM

Post #1718501

LOL, Rj! Good idea!
kathyvm
Fruitport, MI
(Zone 5a)

August 25, 2005
11:03 PM

Post #1719711

I didn't realize there were so many datura varieties. I too would like to know where to get seed for these varieties. I have not seen most of the varieties listed available for sale anywhere. After being on this forum for only a month, I think I'm hooked.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 26, 2005
3:42 AM

Post #1720228

Kathyvm, most of the desirable varieties -- Datura metel, Datura wrightii, Datura inoxia, and Datura stramonium -- are commerically circulated, and seeds are easy to come by. The ones that are not desirable -- due to flower size, fragrance, growth habit, etc. -- aren't sold commercially and are hard to find.
OhioBreezy
Dundee, OH
(Zone 5b)

August 26, 2005
2:35 PM

Post #1720894

kathy :) don't worry, I plan on stuffing your envie full of goodies when I send it, you will have your hearts desire!!
Shelly221
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)

August 26, 2005
11:53 PM

Post #1722091

My wrightii or inoxia (whichever it is) bloomed a couple blooms. It smelled wonderful! The 1st thing I thought of was a spicey lemony smell. The bees (which I havent seen one for a very long time) LOVED them! I couldnt help but wonder what the honey would taste like if you were to give the bees a field of these.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 27, 2005
1:52 AM

Post #1722330

Most of them like half sun exposure? I noticed mine are liking to be just on the edge of the shade to full sun.
rj
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

June 14, 2006
11:19 AM

Post #2388799

Bumping this thread for all of us who have questions in reqard to varities of Datura

Judy
PiggyPoo
Tucson, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2006
4:11 PM

Post #2389671

Judy, thanks so much. Wow, what a collection there!!!
EFGeorgia1
Lizella, GA
(Zone 8a)

June 15, 2006
2:04 AM

Post #2391411

Thanks for the list and the bump. Didn't realize there are sooo many. Elaine
picabo
Nashville, TN
(Zone 6b)

June 15, 2006
6:15 PM

Post #2393711

Thanks Judy for bringing this back up.

Clare... wonderful information. Thank You

Betty
judycooksey
Pocahontas, TN
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2006
9:14 PM

Post #2471229

We have new Datura Posters so I thought I would bump this thread back up to the top. I have requested that it be considered as a "sticky", always at the top of the Forum.

Judy
unclehudy
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)

February 21, 2007
11:57 AM

Post #3210804

I'm new to all this daturas stuff but the flowers look great and I think I'm going to give them a try. I've notice that the white ones look just like moonflowers. The seed pods look the same too. Are they related? Is there much difference between duturas and brugs? Does anyone know if its better to buy seeds from Ebay or go though a store on the internet? I'm interested in the double yellow and double purple. Thanks

Jerry
Sparisi1122
Gloucester, MA

July 27, 2007
1:02 PM

Post #3785096

Does anybody have any datura or brugmansia seeds they would be willing to trade for Datura Stramonium aka Jimsonweed?
SUNNYAZ
Pueblo West, CO

August 8, 2007
7:56 PM

Post #3833538

This is Datura Discolor right?

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twohawk
Blanco, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 18, 2007
9:25 PM

Post #3990464

What a great thread. I have learned so much, and would love to try
many of the Datura varieties. I have only Datura Metel a lavendar color,
single bloom, which after a month, has failed to germinate. Watch-
I'll go check after this posting, and find it's come up!

Would anyone like to share any of the black currant swirl, or one of
the double yellow variety seeds? Clorintha or possibly fastuosa?

I have some flowering shrub seed, other than datura, I could share.

This message was edited Sep 18, 2007 3:28 PM
JanLynn
(Jan) So Milw, WI
(Zone 5b)

October 4, 2007
7:26 PM

Post #4048894

Does anyone have seeds for the yellow (doesn't matter is it's single, double or triple) dats in exchange for postage reimbursement? I currently have a dat with huge purple-tinged leaves (very similar looking to the 3rd picture from the top) and tons of bloom buds which are in various stages of "about to open" but are testing my "patience"...OPEN ALREADY!!! LOL...

Thanks for any consideration!
Jan...who is, in actuality, an impatient gardener :)
mamajack
Fate, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 4, 2007
6:54 PM

Post #4157116

is there really a red datura? do you have a picture of that one?
Abutilon
Coal Center, PA
(Zone 6a)

November 14, 2007
3:17 PM

Post #4191943

Could this be rubra?
The blooms are pinkish with darker on the outside.
These were not in full sun. They only got morning sun til about noon-1.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/787209/

Does anyone have a photo of rubra?
zorba
Lake George, MN
(Zone 3a)

January 11, 2008
3:47 PM

Post #4387247

An excellent source of Datura seeds is J. L. Hudson, Seedsman (www.JLHudsonSeeds.net) I have had excellent success with their Dats (also everything else they offer)!! For a few dimes more, you should order the Datura seeds treated with Gibberllic Acid (GA-3).. Those are the seeds that have a"G" at the end of their ID #. All of these are listed as $3.00 each packet - generous amount ot seeds! The postage for 1 - 20 packets is only $1.50 , 21-40 packets is only $2.00 (this is not per packet, but rather, the whole batch!) The processing time is really fast - about a week. Once you order from them, you will get their catalogue in December every year - no pictures, but very accurate descriptions. You will be very pleased!!!!
bsgardens
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 16, 2008
7:48 PM

Post #5112709

I'm new to this thread ... I have fallen in love with Daturas!!!

I would love to have one or 2 of each. The picture is my first Datura. What its perticular name is ... I haven't got a clue. Can any one help?

When I got this plant, it had seed pods on it. I didn't know what it was until 4 months after I had it. And unknowing about Daturas I thought it was an Angel Trumpet (Brug...).

I would love to trade with some one... I only have 15 seeds. I traded 1/2 of them and planted the other 1/2 already. Any color or kind would be great.

I'm still learning about them. Is there any helpful hints or tips to keep them overly happy :)

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taters55

taters55
(Linda Kay) Del Rio, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 18, 2008
1:37 PM

Post #5278940

I am new to brugs and daturas. I just bought this one, but it had no name. Can any one help ID her please.
Thanks.
Right now it is about 3 foot tall, and it has it's 2nd bllom. It is duoble yellow, and maybe triple. I know the pictures are fuzzy, but I will try to get better ones later.
Thanks
Linda Kay
side view

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taters55

taters55
(Linda Kay) Del Rio, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 18, 2008
1:38 PM

Post #5278943

top view

Thanks
Linda Kay

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lorilea
Justin, TX

August 27, 2008
1:39 PM

Post #5473816

I have alot of Daturas. They were given to me by a friend years ago when she moved. She gave me some seeds. I had no idea what they were but they were pretty and smelled great. With the help of you folks from DG I now know what they are. I have some seeds but they are old and I do not know if they would do anything so I would not like to share them, but in the late fall early winter I hopefully will get more and I will be glad to share. Through the years mine podded like gangbusters. I have found through experience they don't transplant well, I was succesful with transplanting some but, they are fussy about it. Are they for yall?

taters55

taters55
(Linda Kay) Del Rio, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 27, 2008
2:57 PM

Post #5474091

I just transplanted 16 seedlings, and all but 2 have made it so far. One of them all of about 6 inches tall, has a tiny bud on it. So far they are all doing well. I am going to the east texas roundup, Oct 11, in Tyler, Texas and will trade them there.
Linda Kay
MaVieRose
High Desert, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 28, 2008
3:10 PM

Post #5478406

datura seeds are viable for 40 yrs.
lorilea
Justin, TX

August 29, 2008
12:05 PM

Post #5482177

Wow! I guess I will bring them to the roundup.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 14, 2012
9:09 PM

Post #9241905

Mavie I planted seeds a year old and they germinated for me.

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