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I wanted to check some of these out, and htop (Hazel), silverfluter (Mary Lee), and I thought it would be fun to get together for a "nursery date", and follow up with a meal. I have finally rested up from all the traveling I did in April and May (don't know how you do it, Donna!), saved up some more gas money (don't know how you do it, Donna!), and now I am itching for the nursery date. I'm thinking June 11, 18 or 25. (Donna, which of those weekends will you be in Houston?)
Yes, I know it will be hot, but we're Texans, we can take it. Besides, when has a little heat kept us out of our gardens or away from a nursery? :-)
Any of your dates could very possibly work for me. (The mums won't be sent until a Tuesday after June 17th.) Set a date I'll work toward being there.
(Just the thought of being rested is a hoot! We got in from WY last night at 8. When I was walking through the house at 6 this morning I couldn't get my eyes to stay open and I kept falling over hitting the walls... My diesel is a business expense.)
Well, magiemoo...I guess that I'll take not asking me if I could make it as a "cut"???...joke, ;o), lol. It looks like I'll be able to join you ?Ladys? since we're getting into the Retail Summer Doldrums, ex slow!. The 18th would be fine with the wife.
This is going to be fun! So far we have Hazel (htop), Donna (dstartz), Calalily (what is your name, anyway?), Kip (kipper2), Veronica (bettydee), and me. Still waiting to hear from Mary Lee (silverfluter) (where is she?)
Susie (see, I'm learning), I don't think we have decided that yet. I think we should leave it to the San Antonians to direct us, as they are the most familiar with everything. Hazel, I guess that means you, as you are the only San Antonian on the list. (It's not too late for others to join in!)
Also, when do we want to meet? My guess is that all of us out-of-towners are making a day trip out of this, how early is everyone willing to get there?
Having just got back from Fort Davis for a family reunion and going GAGA over all the natives in that area in full bloom because of the rains over the past 3 months, Just name the time and place and "I'll be There". Give me a couple of days to get images sorted and I'll post them on a new thread on the native Texas Plant forum.
kipper2 were you rasied in Fort Davis? I grew up in Sanderson and played football against the kids in Fort Davis. As for the humongus nursery at the north Anderson Loop was it Milbergers? They have a nice one there/
jester, no, I'm an almost 3rd generation Houstonian. I went out to Ft. Davis to the Prude Ranch for one week each year for about 16 to 18 years for the Texas Star Party. It's an annual gathering of amateur astronomers which I was an avid member until I got into gardening. Still enjoy the DARK skies and the beauty of the area out there. If I could make a living out there, I'd move in a minute.
Yes!, You are correct. That's the name I remember.
This is just a small image of why this born-in-the-city boy luvs it out there sooo much.
I like it out there too. But it's very interesting how some people will look at the same terrain and think "But where are the trees?" I met someone recently that didn't even think SA had trees. She was from Pennsylvania and needed to go home.LOL
This is one of the reasons I think many of us need to really explore our own state. It has so many different landscapes to offer and to appreciate. I confess that I'm one of those people who likes to have trees around me, I suppose because I have spent so many years in the East TX piney woods. But I can really enjoy these other vistas, too.
I guess we'll need to go over the other thread about San Antonio nurseries to figure out where we want to go. I'm thinking no more than two nurseries for the day, since so many of us are traveling home the same day (and we want to leave plenty of time for talking, right?)
Susie, since you're driving the farthest, why don't you tell us what time you'll be there, so we'll know when a good start time is?
Rainbow Gardens is a must see, but Susie has been there. The one on Bandera Road is the one I visit and from which I purchase most of my plants. I can check out the others before Our touring date to see what they are like. One of them may be closer to one of the other nuseries you may want to visit. There is another nuserery inside 410 on Bandera Road that my brother was telling me about that has an aviary, a koi pond and some other neat stuff. He didn't say a lot about the plants because he is not much of a plant person. I am changing that, however. I'll check it out too. If it is as great as he says it is, visiting both of these would save time because they are fairly close together and we could eat at a great buffet to which I took Mary Lee and her DH.
I want to go back to Rainbow, I need a few plants that they have. I wasn't impressed with the other nursery on Bandera, I think it was just called "the garden center". Is there a nursery called "Casa Verde" in SA? My friend was telling me they have unusual stuff.
Hazel, the nursery inside the loop off of Bandera has closed. It was a family owned one and they recently closed it. I wish I could join y'all on the tour, but that is my weekend to work. I know you will have a great time. Wish I were there LOL. SEEYA, Margie
Margie, thanks for the information. That nursery belonged to a relative of a neighbor that I grew up with as a kid. I did not know this until a few months ago. I am sad it has closed. Sure wish you could join us ... maybe next time.
I'll be wearing one of mine if I can get the dirt out of them. They have become my gardening uniforms. :o) If the other nursery is closed, I will have to find 2 that are close so we don't have to drive on different sides of town. Can't waste that gasoline and time for browsing around the nurseries. It would be great if Dave could come ... at leat maybe for lunch if he doesn't have time to go to the nurseries.
It depends on which day, and which nursery. If it's on the weekend I will only be able to spare ~30 minutes so if it's one on the other side of town I might have to skip out this time. I'll wait and see what ya'll decide on. :)
Dave, how far is Milberger's Nursery from the Rainbow Gardens on Thousand Oaks and would you recommend us going there? I have never been to it before. Maybe we could go to that Rainbow Gardens instead of the one on Bamdera Road and then to Milberger's.
If you are talking about Milbergers on 1604, that's only about 2 miles from Rainbow on Thousand Oaks - 5 minutes.
From Rainbow, continue east on 1000 Oaks. At the first traffick light, turn left on Jones-Maltsberger. JM "basically" intersects with 1604, and just take the service road east (toward I-35) and Milbergers is literally right there.
Okay, that means Kip and I will be travelling the furthest (right?) Kip, how far from your place to San Antonio? I'll leave my home early enough to get there when we need to leave. (My guess is that it's 3 to 31/2 hrs.)
So, what do you think guys? 9 or 9:30?
Sounds like Rainbow and Milbergers, in that order, right?
Maggiemoo, SA's about 3.5 hours depending on the DPS. ;o) If you're still interested on carpooling, I'm about an hour to an hour and a half, I think, from you. Send me an email and Ill shoot you a mapquest of my house.
Ya'll are going to have one wonderful day. I'm very jealous.LOL Why did my cousin have to pick the 18 th to get married? I can't count the times I've passed by Millberger's and said to myself "One day I'll stop". So after the 18 th I'll know for sure if I really should stop there. The Rainbox Gardens sounds really interesting too. Can't wait to hear the reports on this trip.
And I agree with Maggie, I would like to thank Dave in person for this incredible opportunity to meet other plant addicts and learn so much about plants and landscaping etc. Until I discovered this website, I just hated sitting at this computor. Now it's a treat.
htop, yes that was a great place to eat. Thanks for wonderful food and company. Wish your DH could have been there.
I'm confused about Milberger's though. I was thinking it was on I10. Is that something else on I 10 or are there 2 of them?
OK, I need some advice. I've finally convinced DH that it's time to dig up some Nandina. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot we changed their name to Damdinas. They acquired their new name after we dug up, or tried to dig up some at the corner of the house where two beds intersect and they had invaded the other bed. I think it would be easier to dig up our 40 foot tall pecan tree.
Anyway, I have to find something to replace them with that will survive the drought and neglect they will receive. This spot is half way between a large pecan and a monstrous live oak. So it gets sun only from about 10 -2 or so except in the winter of course. It's on the south side of the house which helps in the winter because it's warmer. But there is another problem. This spot is in front of the porch, so if it's not an evergreen we get to look at 2 feet of bare cement wall in the winter.
I've been doing research on the PlantFiles, and so far have come up with variegated abelia, Bumble Bee abelia, rock rose, ribbon grass and something else I forgot. The variegated abelia looks really nice to me, but if it gets to be 4 feet tall it'll cover a lot of my porch. It's a very small porch and I don't want it to be closed in.
Also I was talking to my neighbor today, and he suggested maybe just staining the cement so that I don't have to cover it. The more I think about that the better I like it. There is another part of the foundation that can't be covered with plants. I could stain that to match. Does anybody have any experience with these stain products, that is using them outside? Do they fade or peal or anything like that?
Thanks, Dave. I think that it would be convenient for everyone to visit Rainbow Gardens on Thousand Oaks first and then Milberger's on 1604 because they are so close to each other. I imagine Rainbow Gardens on Thosand Oaks has a comparable plant selection as the one on Bandera Road. I'll try to locate a good place to eat also. 9 or 0:30 would be fine with me. Since I live in San Antonio, either time would be okay. For those travelling in from afar, would 9:30 be better?
Susie, I haven't been to Sea World this year. I usually have a season pass and go there a lot just for exercise and to view all the beautiful plants. I live about 5 minutes from it. I hope the landscaping is as beautiful as it usually is and I hope it is a nice cool day when you go there. Enjoy your visit and be sure to try to find the time to feed the dolphins (my favorite thing to do there). It will be difficult to see and do everything at Sea World in one day so try to get there very early.
Jester, I hope you can make it.
Veronica, I'm glad you are thinking about joining us.
Mary Lee, I enjoyed our visit too. I fully understand why you have renamed nandinas "damdinas". The tall ones spread by runners all over the place and from seed. I am constantly pulling up ones that have come up from seed and digging up runners which many times messes up my other plants. I now prune off the beries before they start to drop. Digging them up is an awful task, how well I know. I have had some discussions with other DGers who disagree with us that they are a problem. The dwarf ones i have do not do this so far. My rock rose is planted in full sun and wilts in the afternoon heat. I will probably have to move it to partial shade where I used to have it. It does not stay really nice looking in the winter so you may not want to plant one by your porch. I am tryimg to come up with a plant for your spot. I'll let you know if I do. I have never stained concrete so I don't know anything about it ... sorry.
Mary Lee, you might try your cement stain question on the Handyman forum. You'll almost always run into people who have done whatever you're asking about, and they give you the pros & cons, what worked and what didn't. I'll be interested in the answer myself.
Veronica, I think I-10 is the plan, should take us right past Columbus. (Speaking for Kip here) It would be great to pick you up there!
I'm really looking forward to this trip, you guys!!
SA is approx 3.5 hrs away so a 9:30 meet at Rainbow would work for us. Veronica, I believe Columbus and Schoebels (yummy) is @ 2 hrs from me so if you have a cell phone, email it to me and Maggiemoo and I can call ya when we hit Sealy. That way we could catch up with each other on the road. Maggiemoo, you ready for a 6:00am departure time from my house?? Yawn
There's a chinese buffet down thousand oaks and nacogdoches that is very good. It's just the opposite way. Not too far though. There's also another chinese buffet that just opened at 281 and 1604. I can't remember the name of it. Next time I drive that way I'll get the name.
I will join you, If not for lunch, for sure the nurseries.
Maggie and I are planning a gathering in Austin next month http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/519305/ . I'm coming in from Alice (206), Maggie is coming in from Conroe (186) and hopefully bettydee is coming in from La Grange (62). Why not join us? It's only 196 miles from Dallas?
When I was looking at the maps, I thought the same thing. Is that okay with everyone else? Speaking as an out-of-towner who will be trying to find our way, the easier the first stop is to find, the better. (Veronica and I will be riding with Kip, and that's scary enough!) :-)
I just came back from Rainbow Gardens Nursery on Bandera Road. They told me that the one on Thousand Oaks is about half the size or even less than the one on Bandera Road and does not carry as many plants. Now, I don't know what to do ... The travel time between Milberger's and Rainbow Gardens on Bandera Road would be about 30 minutes or a little less I think. I will have to drive it tomorrow and check out the Rainbow Gardens on Thousand Oaks. I was assuming that they were about the same size and had about the same selection of plants. I would hate to tell everyone how I love Rainbow Gardens and then disappoint everyone. Stay tuned ...
Maggiemoo, is there another thread for the Austin nursery tour? I didn't know anything about an Austin tour til I read you e-mail today. I've been really tired lately, because I've been preparing for surgery, which was yesterday (Mon). I take a lot of supplements and some of them have Vit E in them. I had to cut way back on my Vit E because of the surgery, which eliminated some of those supplements. Well, atleast now I know they really do make a difference. The surgery went fine, but I'm just really tired still and probably will still be tired on the 16 th. But thanks for telling me about the trip. If I am feeling up to it, I will certainly let you know. I have been to the Natural Garden and it is really something. Thanks again. Mary Lee
Thanks Donna, Yes I think everything is OK. I had a mammagram that concerned the doctor, so they took out the tissue in question. He said he really doubted that it was cancer, but they won't get the pathology report back til Friday. I feel fine, just very tired.
Bettydee, not a problem. Where would we be picking you up around Columbus?? We'll have a full van with 4 people and room in the back for "puchases".
Riders: Maggiemoo, You and Amelia (my friend)
NASCAR Driver: Kipper
No bettydee, I haven't. I figured it's partly just because I had surgery, but also because before surgery I couldn't take some of the supplements I have been taking. They had vit E in them and all of the units added to gether came to more than 200iu which the nurse said was the limit. Cutting back on vit e also meant cutting back on vit b and since I'm hypoglycemic I really felt it. But I'm back on all my supplements now and feeling much better. Thanks though.
Kip, take a right after you cross over the Colorado River. That's business 71. You can see a Jack-in-the-Box and a Walmart off to the right. I'll meet you at the Walmart parking lot. It's just off I-10 to the right. I have a white Jeep Grand Cherokee with a Jack-in-the-Box ball on the antenna.
Just got this image from my sister taken when we were out in West Texas. This is just one of thousands of the Century Plants. If you're wondering about my expression check out my right calf. No, it did'nt feel very good. :o)
The leaves of that century plant look different than the century plants I usually see. There is one growing by a fence about 8 miles from here. Each leaf must be at least 3 feet long. The compactness of this one would make it a great garden plant. Did you get any seeds?
Donna, yes they work GREAT but only in low humidity. I've used them regularly out in west Texas. Here in Houston they just do not work. The forcasted humidity in SA this weekend is somewhere in the 35% to 40%. They may work at that level. When it's in the 20% area they are FANTASTICALLY COOL. A friend of mine had a webbed vest made up and it was like walking in airconditioning when it was 102 and 20% out in Ft. Davis. I'd say give it a try...you can always remove it if it don't work.
Would someone please take a camera so we can have pictures of the event. It was such fun reading about the roundup and seeing the pictures...We want a blow by blow description of the happenings on this field trip...
The Rainbow Gardens on Thousand Oaks is smaller than the one on Bandera, but it has a nice assortment of plants and is interestingly laid out. Maybe it is just because I am used to the one on Bandera Road, but I had a difficult time finding the native Texas plants. They were intermingled with the others. On Bandera Road, they are altogether and easy to find and the demonstartion area is nice. But, the Bandera Road nursery is still under construction and not as "nice" looking yet as the one on Thousand Oaks and I think it has fewer shadey areas to protect us from the heat. I guess we can decide on Saturday at Milberger's as to which one of the Rainbow Gardens we will visit. It is up to you guys.
Veronica and Susie, this is the hibiscus I gave you: It needs to be planted or repotted and fertilized as soon as possible. The rooting mixture I used contained no fertillizer. It will green up very quickly. http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/5740/
Thank you dear Lady, I'm sure that others forgot what it was that they left with. I had a great time and Amelia is finally, after 6 months to a year of me bugging to join, should be on either today or tomorrow. I can't believe this group really "impressed" her. I guess I must rethink the quality of my long time friends. he he (yea, a cut)
Wahhhhhhhh I thought of you all off and on all day...Our children were coming in to celebrate the big day today with their Dad aso Ispent the day preparing for and cooking for my children...Maybe next time but I will be at the November Kerrville shindig for sure...t's in my neighborhood...
I had soooooo much fun. I forgot Jorge's ear, but can mail it if I get his addy. Everyone was so nice and it was great to finally meet the folks I chat with on here.
I went a little nutz in the salvias at Rainbow and now I can't remember what half of them are, some don't have tags. I also got cuttings(no, I didn't steal them) from two new ones and I can't remember their names, I know one was "Pyramid" and one was "Blue something", seems like it had a fruity name, lol.
Thank you Hazel for the hibiscus, I like it!! I'm getting ready to go out and repot stuff right now.
Hazel, the pyramid one and the blue one were under the trees, they were not for sale but the nice guy gave me cuttings. They are supposed to be new, just introduced but they didn't have any for sale. I'm thinking the blue was Blue Bananas or something like that. I didn't think I'd forget and then I did. The other one I don't know what it is was by the Bog Sage and the Pitcher Sage and needs shade, is tall and is blue and I can't remember it's name. It was in a gallon pot and slightly resembled Indigo Spires but the leaves are darker and have a light vein. I'll take a picture. It isn't in flower.
The guy(the tall skinny guy who liked cassias) said he couldn't find any info on the two he gave me cuttings of and I was supposed to ask Monterey and SalviaLover if they knew what they were, but now I can't remember the name so I can't ask(told you guys I needed to trade for a few extra memory cells, lol).
I like the pyramid bush. It's pretty.
I'm glad Amelia had a good time!
I had a wonderful time! I really enjoyed meeting some of the people on this forum. It was great to put faces to names that appear on this forum. The conversation at lunch was interesting and lively. We need to do this more often.
Thanks, Hazel for the cosmos and the hibiscus and for recommending these two nurseries. If I hadn't spent so much at Home Depot a few days before, I would have been tempted to bring back half of Rainbow Nursery. That's a place I want to return to.
Thanks, Kip for doing the driving. I'm glad Amelia is joining Dave's
Suzi, I like the way you shop!. You'll be busy repotting for days.
Donna, It was a hoot to meet you.
Mary, I really enjoyed our conversations to and from San Antonio
Donna, I think that the plant you were describing as having small (1 to 1.5 inches) yellowish blooms that I had given you at the Central Texas Roundup might be this one. You thought it was an abutillon. I just planted one of my rooted cuttings and said to myself ... I bet this is the Donna was talking about. I begged for cuttings from the mother plant at the San Antonio Botanical Garden because I had never seen this plant before. It is difficult to find. I have only seen it grow to about 2 feet tall and 2.5 feet in width and sort of rambles a bit. It seems to prefer filtered sun here or better yet morning sun and afternoon shade. It appears to need some sun to produce blooms. They had it growing under an oak tree.Mine just started blooming. It likes our hot weather and is late coming up in the spring. Is this it?
Chinese Violet (Asystasia gangetica) http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/55915/index.html
Maggiemoo, did I give you a princess flower?
Veronica and Amelia, it was so nice meeting you. Susie, it was such fun watching you picking out all of your plants for purchase and it was so nice meeting you and your family and friends. the kids were so patient with us grown ups. I hope your DH had a good time.