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Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:02 AM

Post #1542862

DS Phys. Ed. Class left last Wednesday to camp and portage in the gorgeous Canadian Shield country of Northern Saskatchewan. They were gone for 5 days.

Churchill River was their first destination...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:04 AM

Post #1542866

No other pics taken until they reached calmer water

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:06 AM

Post #1542870

Looking for a place to set up camp

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:08 AM

Post #1542876

Cooking supper...remember how good food tastes in the great outdoors?!? Ü

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:10 AM

Post #1542880

DS's campsite

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:11 AM

Post #1542885

Crystal clear unpolluted water...no need to boil water here.

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:12 AM

Post #1542889

Still working on supper

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:15 AM

Post #1542903

looking pretty good...these kids are getting to be experts at this!

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:16 AM

Post #1542906

even better...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:17 AM

Post #1542907

first night

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spklatt
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2005
2:18 AM

Post #1542913

Wow! Great pics, Pam. What kind of school is your DS lucky enough to attend, that has such great Phys-ed classes!?! :-)

I took a little whale-watching tour at the mouth of the Churchill River, up at Hudson Bay. On the train on the way back to Winnipeg there was a troop of young women who had come down the whole river by canoe - they looked like they had had a blast.

I'm curious about the boiling water thing (or not, as the case may be) - : Giardia can live even in clear water - just wondering if the guides had reason to believe it wasn't a threat in that particular river ? I had always heard it was a possibility anywhere in the wilderness. But if not, that would be great - one less thing to worry about.

Thanks for the pics,
Shannon

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:18 AM

Post #1542916


remember the joys of getting smoke in the eyes???

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:22 AM

Post #1542926

Day 2...off to another lake

Shannon I guess it hasn't been a problem here (the kids go to this area every year and none have ever gotten sick)...I know I did a similar trip, years and years ago, and we didn't have to either.

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:29 AM

Post #1542953

This is the only class at his high school that goes...250 Grade 11 students applied and 24 students were accepted. The give it your all attitude, marks, great attendence is what the teachers based their choices on. A couple of other high schools in town have something similar but they only take a trip in Saskatchewan...DS's group also went to Kananaskis.

Fishing for pike...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:31 AM

Post #1542959

Moving on...but have to wait for the stragglers to catch up

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:33 AM

Post #1542966

Found a great swimming hole and a small cliff to jump off...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:34 AM

Post #1542972

Water I've been told is still a bit cool up there

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:36 AM

Post #1542976

Admiring the scenery...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:37 AM

Post #1542980

and warming up

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:44 AM

Post #1542996

One of the teachers caught this one...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:45 AM

Post #1543000

Filleting the catch

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:47 AM

Post #1543005

Washing up

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:48 AM

Post #1543009

hoping to catch another one

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:50 AM

Post #1543016

a little burnt

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:51 AM

Post #1543020

A couple of students got lucky...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:52 AM

Post #1543024

.

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:53 AM

Post #1543027

Mug up

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:55 AM

Post #1543032

Next day they found a little larger cliff to jump off of

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:56 AM

Post #1543035

caught the landing

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
2:59 AM

Post #1543041

I tell you the one that got away was *this big*!!!

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:00 AM

Post #1543046

She took falling in with a sense of humor...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:02 AM

Post #1543048

View from the next campsite

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:05 AM

Post #1543056

Black flies were annoying

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:06 AM

Post #1543059

another meal to make

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:07 AM

Post #1543065

a bit on the tired side

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:09 AM

Post #1543068

heading off to another lake

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:12 AM

Post #1543071

Fresh cold water lake fish is on their minds again

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:13 AM

Post #1543073

DS's catch

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:14 AM

Post #1543078

Fresh caught Pike

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spklatt
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2005
3:15 AM

Post #1543082

Smoke seems to follow you wherever you go around the fire. A friend of mine said a while back that if you say "white rabbits, white rabbits, white rabbits", that's supposed to make the smoke go somewhere else. Rabbits and smoke...now that's a connection that's lost in the mists of time. "Lucky" rabbits, maybe.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:16 AM

Post #1543083

chowing down again

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:18 AM

Post #1543091

Got a bit of laundry to dry

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:19 AM

Post #1543099

Girls are girls everywhere ;)

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:21 AM

Post #1543108

Having a bit of fun

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:22 AM

Post #1543112

Coming back from their dug latrines...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:24 AM

Post #1543119

We had a blast Ü

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:25 AM

Post #1543123

One last trip at 7:00 am this morning...

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:28 AM

Post #1543213

At 8:00 they left camp and started their 10 hour drive (11 with stopping in Prince Albert) home...and the teach even has a smile on his face! He said they were they bestest group ever! ;)

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:31 AM

Post #1543224

To answer Shannon's question a bit better they must test the water up there because DS's teachers said some areas do have to boil water but not the ones they were at.

The school doesn't pay for the costs of the trip...we paid 50% and DS paid the other (his job as a fish monger at Superstore came in handy for many things on this trip ;).

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
3:33 AM

Post #1543230

Shannon I'll tell him your saying...he can test it out next trip! :)
MG99
Victoria, BC
(Zone 8b)

June 13, 2005
4:30 AM

Post #1543342

Great photos Pam, I think he had a great time, and made great memories too.
OldFlowerGirl
Castlegar, BC
(Zone 6b)

June 13, 2005
1:23 PM

Post #1543800

Wonderful scenery. Nothing like that cold northern lakes for fishing. Even those ole Jackfish (Northern Pike) taste good up there.

What a great opportunity and experience for those young people. As Linda said, trips like that will never be forgotten.

Speaking of drinking water. I remember years and years ago, maybe 35, we went housboating on Shuswap Lake and our drinking water came straight out of the lake. The faucet in the kitchen drew right out of the lake. Back then, the houseboats weren't equipped with water tanks; but of course they are now. But the experience certainly didn't effect us healthwise either. Ahhh, the good ole days, eh?
spklatt
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2005
4:41 PM

Post #1544255

Yeah, we're certainly (as a society) doing a number on our fresh water resources. Sigh...

I just remembered, Pam, apparently part of the point is to say it as quickly as possible. Some friends and I once compared all our various superstitious tricks to get the campfire smoke to blow somewhere else, but that one and the variation of "I hate white rabbits", either once or three times, are the only ones I can remember. Hope one of them works for your DS! :-)
OldFlowerGirl
Castlegar, BC
(Zone 6b)

June 13, 2005
6:13 PM

Post #1544442

LOL, seems to me we've done this before, haven't we Shannon? I remember as a kid allways yelling out "I hate rabit stew!", whenever the campfire smoke would come in our direction. In any case...don't think it works any better than using a machine gun on mosquitos. LOL

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 13, 2005
6:47 PM

Post #1544502

DS had a fantastic trip...he was very excited to share the stories of his adventure with us! He spoke in double time however as he was very, very eager to have a tub! ;) Which allowed Mom to get ahold of his camera. Ü

He said the fish was delish...he's never had any so good (he's also never had any that fresh).

The camera that took the above pics is brand new...DS purchased it after cracking the lens on his other one in Kananaskis. First time he took pictures with it...I really like it, it's a Fuji S3700. More options then the one I have...I wonder if he'll let me take some plant pics with it??? ;)
OldFlowerGirl
Castlegar, BC
(Zone 6b)

June 13, 2005
6:49 PM

Post #1544508

Oh yeah...go for it Mom!

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

June 14, 2005
6:45 PM

Post #1547170

I spoke to my father Shannon (he's fished many times up north) and he said the Beavers are the main carriers of Giardia (Beaver Fever I think I remember it being called). They don't like spending time where there is Pine trees... they don't like the taste of them.
imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 25, 2006
10:45 PM

Post #2000194

BEAVER FEVER! Oh, you already said that. ..., nevermind.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 25, 2006
11:07 PM

Post #2000238

LOLOLOL...hey John!!! Ü Sure was a surprise to see this thread bumped up again.

Did you do much fishing when you were up in Alaska?

imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 25, 2006
11:21 PM

Post #2000268

Some. Not as much as I should have. Salmon and grayling. Tried but, failed to catch a pike.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 26, 2006
12:28 AM

Post #2000408

Fresh wild Salmon would have been really good too...my family really enjoyed the one I picked up at the coast RU early this past spring. Must admit I picture you fishing with a Kodiak bear, across the creek, jealously eyeing your catch. DS said they didn't see any of the larger wildlife up there (unlike some of the trips I made where they would come knocking on your tent door).




imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 26, 2006
1:19 AM

Post #2000579

Haven't encountered the Kodiak bear but, have run accross the interior grizzly and ubiquitous black bear. I respect them and, fear the biting flies and mosquitos!

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 26, 2006
2:08 AM

Post #2000888

I too give them a very wide berth...it amazes me that people still tend to walk up to the black bear like it's a teddy bear in some of the National Parks. Never mind the time I saw someone climbing up a hill where a grizzly was busy grazing berries right above them. :S

re: black flies and skeeters...the girls who forgot to lift their hair and apply Deep Woods Off underneath also share similar feelings towards them. ;)

It's sure feels good to see you are doing well and posting again! Ü
imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 26, 2006
2:28 AM

Post #2000944

;-)
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 26, 2006
3:28 AM

Post #2001076

Loved your photos! I'm always looking for a view of the N Saskatchwan River. I hope to do a 3 stage decent from Rocky Mt house to Lk Winnipeg. I have always been a fan of David Thompson and wanted to do the voyager thing. I start in June at RMH.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 26, 2006
4:18 AM

Post #2001151

Hey and Welcome to Dave's and the Canadian forum Soferdig!

Given your plans you've prolly seen this site but, in case you haven't: http://canoesaskatchewan.rkc.ca/

History: http://canoesaskatchewan.rkc.ca/history.htm

This site is one of my favs: http://www.virtualsk.com/current_issue/la_ronge.html

Looking forward to seeing your pics. Ü DS loved every second of it and truly believed it was an experience of a lifetime.

Bring LOTS of SKEETER SPRAY!!!!!

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 26, 2006
4:23 AM

Post #2001164

p.s. don't forget your fishing rod! An interprovincial? fishing license would be a good idea too. ;)

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 26, 2006
4:29 AM

Post #2001175

DH just looked Kalispell and says you are up in the Mountains near Glacier National Park...DS's other trip wasn't too far away from you: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/514132/

He'd have a hard time picking which area he liked better.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 26, 2006
6:30 PM

Post #2002038

Lots of canoeing here in the Flathead Valley. But I have always wanted to do the trip back to Michigan. Thats where I came from and I think I'll have a new perspective on life after the long time on the water and all the people to meet. My wife thinks I'm nuts.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 26, 2006
6:59 PM

Post #2002073

http://www.fcvb.org/ You've definitely got your own piece of heaven there!

Round and about way to head to Michigan but I don't think your nuts. It's virtually unchanged from when the explorers/fur traders originally traversed it. I treasure my memories of canoeing in its' solitude and wilderness.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 26, 2006
7:01 PM

Post #2002076

not those of the blood suckers (leaches) tho...don't forget to pack salt as well.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 27, 2006
2:03 AM

Post #2003036

You guys are just teasing me with all the fresh meat I'll have on the way. By the way do Black Flies digest in your lungs. I suspect I'll have plenty to eat there. I was reading today about the Voyageurs and that they would eat 10Kg of meat a day or 2kg of pemmican. I wonder if they had power bars how much more they could accomplish. Just think they paddled 18 hours a day for 3 - 4 months and slept with their heads under the canoe and a tarp over them to keep the rain off. You Canadians have tough ancestors! This is a shot over my garden looking towards Canada. PS I had fun on a short stretch of the Columbia last summer.

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 27, 2006
3:10 AM

Post #2003160

LOL...them tiny little northern devils will take rather large nibbles from you! ;) Truthfully they can be very nasty...many a man has been brought to his knees by them.

[quote]"When our provisions were running out, all the others went back to bring in provisions, with the exception of J. J. Heaslip and myself. This was about the first of June. They went to Brandon and expected to be back in about a week; instead of that, owing to bad roads, they were about two weeks, by which time the provisions of J. J. and myself had got down to nothing but porridge. Just then along came James Walsh, the old fur trader, Walter Walsh and Robert Grandy, and they gave us a little out of their supply, which was small. They were looking for land. They had a buckboard and a team of horses and came in from Moosomin. They did not have much to spare, but they gave us something, a little flour and a little bacon. They were very short but it helped us out until our men returned in four or five days. We had, however, to keep on short rations. Our tobacco ran out, but we had a few cigars which we used to smoke to keep the mosquitoes off when they got too bad. The mosquitoes and black flies were terrible for about two weeks; so bad that one man who was travelling through came near dying; he was all swelled up and in a bad state. He was bodily ill and was laid up for a couple of days.[/quote] http://www.rootsweb.com/~cansk/SaskatchewanAndItsPeople/Volume2/CIX.html

Do not underestimate them!

This picture was taken in early morning after the girl left her tent but prior to leaving the campsite:


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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 27, 2006
3:13 AM

Post #2003166

Here's the story of a fellow who made his living up there: http://www.jkcc.com/evje/trapping.html

Sorry but I just have to emphasize how important a good supply of OFF is:

The photograph on the right, shows Halvor Ausland with his dog team on the Mudjatik River trapline in the winter of 1923. Notice the frost on his whiskers, the winters are very cold in that part of the country. It is not uncommon for the temperatures to dip to -50 or -60 degrees Fahrenheit or more. Many a night was spent sleeping around campfires with only his sleeping bag to keep him warm while he slept. He remarked in later years about waking up in the morning, very uncomfortable, with snow down the back of his neck.
In later years, Halvor Ausland was to recall a journey he made from his trapline in the north, out to civilization. His toboggan was filled with furs, and the weather was extremely cold. During that trip, his dogs froze to death one after the other. He started the trip with twelve dogs and ended up with three. This was during the worst years of the depression and the fur provided him with good money at a time when people in the cities had no work and went hungry. Dog Team on Trap-line. The poor northern trapper, was frozen in the winter and eaten to death by mosquitoes and black-flies in the summer.


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Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 27, 2006
3:35 AM

Post #2003202

We used to live in the Battlefords and one year the Saskatoon crop was unbelievable...berries the size of grapes. Unfortunately the population of mosquitoes was too...we prolly used a can of Off each that morning. They still went after our eyelids, inner ear, etc. My father, who never gives up, was beaten back by them that day. He filled about 1/2 the pails he had planned to.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 27, 2006
4:00 AM

Post #2003237

Thank you Lilypon for that story. I so enjoy the tenacity of men such as these. Can you imagine the sites and experiences he had. Also all the near life experiences and near death moments in such a harsh place. We can only travel in their footsteps and touch on a piece of their moments.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 27, 2006
4:10 AM

Post #2003257

Oh I can honestly say that the flies and skeeters are not something I know I can survive. I fortunately have traveled extensively in Northern Ontario and suffered their attacks most of my childhood. One advantage that my diabetes gives me is a decreased sensitivity to bug bites. But they do bother me when they "eye fly and ear fly".

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 27, 2006
4:54 AM

Post #2003305

Sorry about that. ;) Now that I know you've had previous experience with them ...Northern Ontario would certainly provide that as well. Every so often we read about a hunter, fisherman, tourist, etc., that was found dead due to being woefully unprepared.

My Great-Grandfather came out west in the 1880's and he left a diary detailing similar hardships to the man above...you are right about their tenacity!

Are you doing the trip with others?
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
4:46 PM

Post #2008448

Actually no. I'm a diabetic so I should. But I have been kayak touring for over 20 years on Puget Sound and West coast of Vancouver Isl. as a solo. My Dog always goes with me but I enjoy the solitude. I have a job (Veterinarian) that keeps me talking and interacting all day and night so it's nice to go 2+ weeks not having to interact. I will be checking in when resources allow me and have check points of communication so they know where to look for my body. HAHA. I really feed of the adventure of diabetes in the wild. Part of accepting it being OK.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
5:09 PM

Post #2008500

I should mention my "sorry about that" was in regards to my emphasizing, to an already seasoned outdoorsmen, how bad the skeeters/black flies are (from your posts above they certainly aren't strangers to you). Given your profession I'm sure you will do very well up there. ;)

How do you keep your insulin cold?

BTW I meant to mention earlier your back yard view is spectacular!
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
5:28 PM

Post #2008552

Insulin is pretty hardy. I have kept insulin unreferigerated for up to 2 months with only a little need to increase dose. Freezing is the problem and once frozen it is gone. I always carry it and candy bars and blood glucose tester on my body in water tight bag. Also I have others stored in bullet proof locations. Other wise I have to go home early. Paddling is a great exercise for the diabetic and I feel that it is the one exercise that is perfect. You can paddle like a banshee or sit and cruise depending on wind waves and curents. There is always the earth to rest on if needed. Most of my paddling has been on coastal areas in the Pacific NW but I moved to Montana 10 years ago and have started to master white water so now is the time to go to adventure. You have so many remote areas up there I am excited. I know that I'm not picking the most beautiful rivers but the history is facinating when I travel where I have read about.
This picture is of a garden bed of my Jack russels grave. She went everywhere with me for 11 years.

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Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
6:02 PM

Post #2008631

Thank you for the information...I wondered after reading where people in the south were really worried about their insulin after Katrina, etc. (after they had lost refridgeration). I didn't realize it could go that long without being kept cold (I wondered if you would be putting it in a bag that would attached to the canoe and would trail besides the canoe in the water). I give you lots of credit...you have to be in shape for the adventure your about to take on (esp. when its' a solitary one). Your dogs, I'm sure, are wonderful company (and protection...or great early warning;). Your Jack Russel esp. would have served that purpose well. Neighbor across the street has one and it loves to push its' luck with the neighborhood Rottweilers.

Northern Sask. stands out in my memory just as much as trips to BC...different but, like you, I think it's the remoteness, true wilderness, and the history that makes it just as special. edited to say AND the trees (to bald prairie eyes;)

Your devotion, and closeness to your dogs, reminds me of James Herriot...I love his stories! My father had a Springer Spaniel (Danny) that would daily leave the house (on his own) and go downtown to pick up my Grandfather at work and walk back home with him. My father still talks about him.


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Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
6:21 PM

Post #2008662

Sophie was her name and your right she was a tough dog. One night after a squall blew me out into the Pacific about 6 miles off shore I was desperate to get to shore and rest so I landed on a small piece of sand that also was a sealion haul out/rookerie. Well Sophie was instantly commited to keeping the poor creatures away from our camp by charging and barking at any that were curious to visit us. (I know this was a bad thing to do but I had no choice. There was over 40 miles of open rocky coastline ahead of me.) Well she stayed at her job all night and day until we left the beach in the morning. She slept well that day in her crate on the back of the kayak. I'm sure the sealions still have nightmares of the little white moby dick landing on their beach.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
6:31 PM

Post #2008681

LOLOL...THAT I can picture that very well. We have a Cocker Spaniel and every so often Rudy (the JR across the street) has to come tell our dog (in our backyard) that we are in it's neighborhood. Rudy is actually the new arrival. Stubborn, strong willed dogs. ;)

I've scanned the above and I didn't see who would be accompaning you this trip...dog wise?
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
6:54 PM

Post #2008722

Maddie my new Jack Russel will be handling the bow position of my Old Town Otca. (I think) It is my grandfathers canoe which has a cedar frame with canvas cover, center rowing seat with oars, sails and dagger board etc. I figure my grandfather will be joining maddie and myself when things get quiet. The Saskatchwan part of the trip and Lk Winipeg if time allows will be perfect for this boat. For the Lower leg I will be using my Mad River Mistrel to make the portages' easier. Of course Maddie will stay home.

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Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
7:11 PM

Post #2008762

Lovely looking Jack Russel Sofer! :) Maddie looks much more obedient (and less hyper) then the above mentioned one.

Now you've got my curiousity up...do you have pics of the above mentioned crafts?

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Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
7:30 PM

Post #2008805

You have a keen insight for dog personalities. Maddie is the most mild mannered dog on the planet earth. As a veterinarian I am expermenting in why is she so easy going. I know that she is hypothyroid and maybe that is the cause. Yes I do but I'll have to scan the photo because the Old town is at my fathers house in Michigan and I need to get it this spring. So I'll try a scan. Be back
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
8:18 PM

Post #2008932

Got it done here is one of the photos of my Old town.

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Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
8:20 PM

Post #2008946

another up close

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imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 29, 2006
8:24 PM

Post #2008957

Will you be able to touch bases with us from time to time? Then I could live vicariously through you. That would be so cool!!

John
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
8:49 PM

Post #2009023

Sorry John but the only reports will be after I return. I'll email you with the story when I return. The lengths of each tour will be based on my scedule through the next couple of years. I will probably post on myccr.com. Hey how do it copy and paste a Email site on to this forum?

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imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 29, 2006
8:56 PM

Post #2009039

Go to the web site. 'Copy' the address in the address bar. Then paste it into your comment. Test it before hitting the send button.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
9:11 PM

Post #2009064

This is the site for lots of canoe trip stories. http://www.canoe.ca/AllAboutCanoes/canoe_books.html It has helped me a lot in knowing about water levels and what to expect when I arrive.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
9:17 PM

Post #2009072

Oops wrong one. This is it.http://www.myccr.com/SectionForums/viewtopic.php?t=12059&sid=b1f613d654ce8b063967476cc12bdb9c

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
9:34 PM

Post #2009112

http://www.myccr.com/SectionForums/viewtopic.php?t=12059&sid=b1f613d654ce8b063967476cc12bdb9c Trying your link again...hope it works.

I'll certainly be very interested in receiving your trip log/diary/story as well Sofer...BTW my name is Pam. My son thought *Old Town* was really cool, he had to ask however if you are aware of how strong the rapids are on the Churchill?

re: dogs grew up with lots, have had a number, and visiting farms you *really* have to read them prior to getting out of the car. :S ;)

*Old Town*, a very unique treasure you have, reminds me of an old wooden boat my DF still has. We've spent many a summer revarnishing it.

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Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
11:12 PM

Post #2009368

I'm not sure how the Churchill R involves me. I'm starting at Rockymountain House (or below) then going down the N Saskatchewan the Saskatchewan to Lk Winnipeg. Then I'll be changing canoes for the southern Lk of the Woods etc. to Grand Portage. I do like the pictures that you included in your trip but I'm more into what David Thompson thought and experienced. I'm sure he did the Churchill early in his life but like him I'm too lazy to battle that all the way. A few rattlesnakes, black flies, misquitoes, and occasional moose will keep me busy.
imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 29, 2006
11:17 PM

Post #2009386

No bears?

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
11:17 PM

Post #2009387

Sorry 'bout that, you're right...I didn't take Jeff through all the postings so he could see what your planned route is. Was *just* talking to DF and he also reiterated that you'd be on the N. Saskatchewan too. Kinda got my wires crossed after talking to DS.

A wonderful journey awaits you!





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Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
11:41 PM

Post #2009434


I'm not sure how long this link will work but here is the listing of books, on David Thompson, held in the major libraries across Canada. Most are available for ILLO.

Bond, Rowland. The original northwester : David Thompson and the native tribes of North America / by Rowland Bond. -- Nine Mile Falls, Wash. : Spokane House Enterprises, c1970-71.

2 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's journal of the international boundary survey, 1817-1827 : western Lake Erie, August-September, 1819 / edited by Clarke E. Leverette. -- London, Ont. : Killaly Press, 1974.

3 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Journal of the International Boundary Survey, 1817-1827 : Western Lake Erie, August-September, 1819 / Edited by Clarke E. Leverette. -- London, Ont : Killaly Press, 1974.

4 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Travels in western North America, 1784-1812 / David Thompson ; edited by Victor G. Hopwood. -- Toronto : Macmillan of Canada, c1971.

5 Smith, James K. David Thompson, fur trader, explorer, geographer / [by] James K. Smith. -- Toronto : Oxford University Press, 1971.

6 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's narrative, 1784-1812 : a new edition with added material / edited with an introduction and notes by Richard Glover. -- Toronto : Champlain Society, 1962.

7 Wood, Kerry, 1907-. The map-maker : the story of David Thompson / by Kerry Wood ; illustrated by William Wheeler. -- Toronto : Macmillan, 1955.

8 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Narrative. A facsim. ed. -- New York : Greenwood Press, 1968.

9 Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson / James K. Smith. -- Don Mills, Ont. : Fitzhenry & Whiteside, c1975.

10 Morton, Arthur S. (Arthur Silver), 1870-1945. David Thompson / by A. S. Morton. -- Toronto : Ryerson Press, c1930.

11 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. David Thompson : Canada's greatest geographer : an appreciation / by J. B. Tyrrell. -- [s.l. : s.n., 1922?]

12 McMorran, Gordon Alexander, 1885-. Souris River posts and David Thompson's diary of his historical trip across the Souris plains. -- Souris, Souris Plaindealer, 1950-1959.

13 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. A Brief narrative of the journeys of David Thompson, in north-western America. -- Toronto, Copp, 1888.

14 Cochrane, Charles Norris, 1889-1945. David Thompson, the explorer. -- Toronto, Macmillan, 1924.

15 Henry, Alexander, d. 1814. New light on the early history of the greater Northwest / the manuscript journals of Alexander Henry...and David Thompson. -- New York, Harper, 1897.

16 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's narrative of his explorations in western America, 1784-1812 / edited by J.B. Tyrrell. -- Toronto : Champlain Society, 1916.

17 Henry, Alexander, d. 1814. New light on the early history of the greater Northwest : the manuscript journals of Alexander Henry, fur trader of the Northwest Company, and of David Thompson, official geographer and explorer of the same company, 1799-1814 : exploration and adventure among the Indians on the Red, Saskatchewan, Missouri and Columbia Rivers / edited with copious critical commentary, by Elliott Coues. -- Minneapolis, Minn. : Ross & Haines, 1965.

18 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's narrative of his explorations in western America, 1784-1812. -- New York, Greenwood, 1968-1916.

19 McMorran, G. A. Souris River posts and David Thompson's diary of his historical trip across the Souris plains to the Mandan villages in the winter of 1797-98. -- [Souris, Man. : Souris Plaindealer Ltd., 1950?]

20 Cochrane, Charles Norris, 1889-1945. David Thompson, the explorer / by Charles Norris Cochrane. -- Toronto : The Macmillan co. of Canada, Ltd., 1924.

Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson [sound recording] / James K. Smith. -- Toronto : CNIB, 1991.
22 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. The re-discovery of David Thompson / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- Ottawa : Printed for the Royal Society of Canada, 1928.

23 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. A brief narrative of the journeys of David Thompson in north-western America / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- Toronto : Copp, Clark, 1888.

24 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. A brief narrative of the journeys of David Thompson, in north-western America [microform] / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- [Toronto? : s.n.], 1888 (Toronto : Copp, Clark)

25 Evans, Hubert, 1892-1986. North to the unknown : the achievements & adventures of David Thompson / by Hubert Evans ; illustrated by Ruth Collins. -- Toronto : McClelland & Stewart, c1949.

26 Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson, fur trader, explorer, geographer [braille]. -- Toronto : CNIB, [197-]

27 Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson, fur trader, explorer, geographer [sound recording]. -- Toronto : CNIB, [197-]

28 David Thompson and the first gateways [sound recording]. -- [S.l.] : Edumedia 11309, [19--]

29 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's journals relating to Montana and adjacent regions, 1808-1812 / transcribed from a photostatic copy of the original manuscript and edited with an introduction by M. Catherine White. -- Missoula : Montana State University Press, 1950.

30 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Im wilden Norden Amerikas, 1784-1812 / David Thompson ; herausgegeben von Frank Auerbach. -- Stuttgart : Edition Erdmann, c1988.
Garrod, Stan, 1946-. David Thompson / Stan Garrod. -- Toronto : Grolier, c1989.

32 Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson / James K. Smith ; [traducteur, Albert Ledoux]. -- Longueuil, Québec : Editions Julienne, c1976.

33 Short, Steve. In the path of the explorers : tracing the expeditions of Vancouver, Cook, Mackenzie, Fraser and Thompson / Short & Neering. -- Vancouver : Whitecap Books, c1992.

34 Garrod, Stan. David Thompson / Stan Garrod. -- Toronto : Grolier, c1989.

35 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Columbia journals / David Thompson ; edited by Barbara Belyea. -- Montréal : McGill-Queen's University Press, c1994.

36 Evans, Hubert, 1892-. North to the unknown : the achievements & adventures of David Thompson / Illus. by Ruth Collins. -- New York : Dodd, Mead, [1949].

37 Nisbet, Jack, 1949-. Sources of the river : tracking David Thompson across western North America / Jack Nisbet ; maps and illustrations by Jack McMaster. -- Seattle : Sasquatch Books, c1994.

38 Tyrrell, Joseph Burr, 1858-1957. David Thompson: explorer. -- [s.l, s.n.], [n.d.].

39 Hamilton, Basil G. A race for an inland empire [and Stepping out with David Thompson in western Canada] / by Basil G. Hamilton. -- [Invermere?, B.C. : s.n., 1926-33?]
40 David Thompson memorial service, 23rd May, 1927 : monument in Mount Royal Cemetary unveiled by Sir Frederick Williams-Taylor. -- [Montréal : s.n., 1927]

Explorers of Canada [videorecording] / National Film Board of Canada. -- [Montreal] : National FIlm Board of Canada , [c1995]

42 Smith, James K., 1926- . David Thompson. -- Don Mills, Ont. : Fitzhenry & Whiteside, 1975.

43 Wood, Kerry. The map-maker : the story of David Thompson. -- Toronto : Macmillan, 1962

44 Smith, James K. David Thompson / James K. Smith. -- Don Mills, Ont. : Fitzhenry & Whiteside, c1975.

45 Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson : fur trader, explorer, geographer / James K. Smith. -- Toronto : Oxford University Press, 1971.

46 Tyrrell, Joseph Burr, 1858-1957. David Thompson, explorer / by J.B. Tyrrell ; photographs by the author. -- [s.l. : s.n., 19--?]

47 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. David Thompson and the Rocky Mountains / edited by J.B. Tyrrell. -- [Toronto : s.n., 1934?]

48 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. David Thompson and the Columbia river / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- [Toronto? :bs.n., 1937?]

49 Howay, F. W. (Frederic William), 1867-1943. David Thompson's account of his first attempt to cross the Rockies / by F.W. Howay. -- [Kingston? Ont. : s.n., 1933?]

50 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Narrative, 1784-1812 / David Thompson. New ed., enl. / edited with an introd. and notes by Richard Glover. -- Toronto : Champlain Society, 1962.
Elliott, T. C. (Thompson Coit), 1862-1943. David Thompson, pathfinder and the Columbia River / by T.C. Elliott. -- Kettle Falls, Wash. : Seimitar Press, 1911.

52 Explorers 1 [videorecording]. -- [Montreal] : NFB, 1980.

53 Tyrrell, Joseph Burr, (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. A brief narrative of the journeys of David Thompson, in north-western America [microform] / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- [Toronto? : s.n.], 1888 (Toronto : Copp, Clark)

54 Flandrau, Grace, 1889-1971. Koo-koo-sint, the Star Man; a chronicle of David Thompson. -- [St. Paul, Minn. ? s.n., 1925?]

55 Cochrane, Charles Norris, 1889-1945. David Thompson, the explorer [microform] / by Charles Norris Cochrane. -- Ottawa : National Library of Canada, 197-?

56 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. A brief narrative of the journeys of David Thompson, in north-western America [microform] / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- Ottawa : National Library of Canada, 1976.

57 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Narrative. A facsim. ed. -- New York : Greenwood Press, 1968.

58 Burpee, Lawrence J., 1873-1946. Notes on David Thompson. -- [S.l. : s.n., 1923].

59 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Journals relating to Montana and adjacent regions, 1808-1812./ Transcribed from a photostatic copy of the original mss., and edited with an introd. by M. Catherine White. -- Missoula, Montana State University Press, 1950.

60 Tyrrell, Joseph Burr, 1858-1957. A brief narrative of the journeys of David Thompson, in north-western America [microform] / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- [Toronto? : s.n.], 1888 (Toronto : Copp, Clark)

61 The story of Kinbasket / illustrations by Dorothy Chapman Gibbs. -- Golden, B.C. : Kinbasket Tourist Villas, [1935?]

62 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's journals [microform]. -- 1789-1851.

63 David Thompson: The Great Mapmaker [videorecording]. --

64 Landell, Charles Dalhousie. David Thompson: explorer, fur trader, astronomer, surveyor, map-maker. -- [Toronto? 1965]

65 Henry, Alexander, d. 1814. The manuscript journals of Alexander Henry, fur trader of the Northwest Company, and of David Thompson, official geographer and explorer of the same Company : exploration and adventure among the Indians on the Red, Saskatchewan, Missouri, and Columbia River / edited with copious critical commentary by Elliott Coues. -- Minneapolis, Minn. : Ross & Haines, 1965.

66 David Thompson, the explorer. [microform]. -- Toronto, Macmillan.

67 Souris River posts [microform] and David Thompson's diary of his historical trip across the Souris plains. -- Souris, Souris Plaindealer.

68 Tyrrell, Joseph Burr, 1858-1957. David Thompson, Canada's greatest Geographer, an appreciation in connection with the opening of the David Thompson Memorial Fort at Lake Windermere, B.C., Aug. 30th, 1922. -- [n.p.] 1922.

69 Tyrrell, Joseph Burr, 1858-1957. David Thompson, explorer. -- [n.p., n.d.]

70 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Travels in western North America, 1784-1812 / Edited by Victor G. Hopwood. -- Toronto : Macmillan of Canada, [c1971].

71 Site of Fort Kootenae, ... Lake Windermere District, East Kootenac, B.C.; letter, memorandum and plan. -- [n.p., n.d.]

72 Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson : fur trader, explorer, geographer / James K. Smith. -- Toronto : Oxford University Press, 1971.

73 Henry, Alexander, d. 1814. The manuscript journals of Alexander Henry, fur trader of the Northwest Company, and of David Thompson, official geographer and explorer of and adventure among the Indians on the Red, Saskatchewan, Missouri and Columbia Rivers / edited with copious critical commentary by Elliott Coves. -- New York : F.P. Harper, 1897.

74 Elliott, Thompson Coit, 1862-1943. Historical papers and addresses. -- Walla Walla, Wash., Privately printed, 1935.

75 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's journal of the international boundary survey, 1817-1827 [and] western Lake Erie, August-September, 1819. Edited by Clarke E. Leverette. -- London, Ont. Killaly Press 1974

76 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's account of his first attempt to cross the Rockies / [Edited] by F.W. Howay. -- [Kingston, Ont.] : [S.n.], 1933.

77 A Legacy for tomorrow [videorecording]. -- S.l. : Alberta Energy and Natural Resources ; Edmonton : Century II Motion Pictures Ltd., [1975-1986].

78 Freeman, Randolph Steven. Geographical naming in the old north-west : a study of the naming of geographical features by fur-traders in the western interior of British North America / by Randolph Steven Freeman. -- 1985.

79 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. David Thompson [microform] : explorer / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- [S.l. : s.n., 191-?]

80 Morton, Arthur Silver, 1870-1945. Did Duncan McGillivray and David Thompson cross the Rockies in 1801?. -- [s.l. : s.n., 1937?]

81 Bond, Rowland. The original northwester: David Thompson and the native tribes of North America / by Rowland Bond. [1st ed.]. - -- Nine Mile Falls, Wash.: Spokane House Enterprises, [1972, c1970-71]. -

82 McCart, J. (Joyce), 1936-. On the road with David Thompson / Joyce and Peter McCart. -- Calgary : Fifth House Publishers, c2000.

83 David Thompson [filmstrip] / [presented by] The National Film Board of Canada. -- [Ottawa] : The Board, 1957.
84 Tyrrell, J. B. (Joseph Burr), 1858-1957. David Thompson, a great geographer [microform] / by J.B. Tyrrell. -- [London? : s.n., 1911?] (London : W. Clowes)

85 McMorran, G. A. (Gordan A.), b. 1885. Souris river posts : and David Thompson's diary of his historical trip across the Souris plains to the Mandan villages in the winter of 1797-98 / by G.A. McMorran, editor, Souris Plaindealer. -- Souris, Man. : Souris Plaindealer, [ca. 1952].

86 Mackay, Isabel Ecclestone, 1875-1928. The David Thompson memorial. -- Toronto : The Canadian magazine, 1923.

87 Smith, Allan H. An ethnohistorical analysis of David Thompson's 1809-1811 journeys in the lower Pend Oreille Valley, northeastern Washington. -- [Bloomington, Indiana Univ. Pr.] 1961.

88 Clutton-Brock, Elizabeth. Woman of the paddle song. -- Vancouver [B.C.] Copp Clark Pub. Co. [c1972]

89 MacDonald, Graham A. (Graham Alexander), 1944-. Aspects of the life and work of David Thompson : with special reference to Rocky Mountain House. -- Calgary, [Alta.] : Cultural and Resource Management, Western Canada Service Centre, 2001.

90 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. Columbia journals / David Thompson ; edited by Barbara Belyea. -- Montréal : McGill-Queen's University Press, 1993.

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91 Canadian history. [filmstrip]. -- Ottawa : National Film Board of Canada, 1957.

92 Ciencin, Scott. The explorers / by Scott Ciencin. -- New York : Random House, 2001.

93 Smith, James K., 1926-. David Thompson / James K. Smith. Rev. ed. -- Markham, Ont. : Fitzhenry & Whiteside, c2003.

94 Jenish, D'Arcy, 1952-. Epic wanderer : David Thompson and the mapping of the Canadian West / D'Arcy Jenish. -- [Toronto] : Doubleday Canada, c2003.

95 Canada Volume 4. [videorecording (DVD)] : a people's history. Widescreen letterbox version. -- [Toronto, Ont.] : Morningstar Entertainment, c2000.

96 Canada Volume 6 Series 2. [videorecording (DVD)] : a people's history. Special documentary ed. -- [Toronto, Ont.] : Morningstar Entertainment, c2001.

97 Pole, Graeme, 1956-. David Thompson : the epic expeditions of a great Canadian explorer / by Graeme Pole. -- Canmore, Alta. : Altitude Pub. Canada, 2003.

98 History of science. [Part 1, David Thompson, mapmaker] [videorecording] / producer, Francois Ayotte. English version. -- [Toronto] : CBC, c2000.

99 Jenish, D'Arcy, 1952-. Epic wanderer : David Thompson and the mapping of the Canadian West / D'Arcy Jenish. -- Lincoln : University of Nebraska Press, c2004.

100 Les explorateurs, volume 2 [videorecording]. -- Montreal : National Film Board of Canada, c1995.

101 Evans, Hubert, 1892-. North to the unknown : the achievements and adventures of David Thompson / illus. by Ruth Collins. -- Toronto : McClelland, [c1949].

102 Thompson, David, 1770-1857. David Thompson's narrative / [edited by J. B. Tyrrell]. -- New York : Greenwood Press, 1968.

103 David Thompson [motion picture] :The Great Mapmaker. -- [Montreal] : National Film Board of Canada, 1964.

104 McMorran, G.A. Souris River posts : including David Thompson's diary of his historical trip across the Souris Plains to the Mandan Villages in the winter of 1797-98 / by G. A. McMorran. -- Souris : Souris Plaindealer, 1950.

105 David Thompson, mapmaker [videorecording]/ host, Dennis Trudeau ; journalist, Hélène Courchesne ; producer, François Ayotte. -- [Montréal] : Réseau d'Information/Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, c2000.

106 Jenish, D'Arcy, 1952-. Epic wanderer : David Thompson and the mapping of the Canadian West / D'Arcy Jenish. Anchor Canada ed. -- Toronto : Anchor Canada, 2004, c2003.

107 David Thompson papers [microform] : 1789-1851. -- Toronto, Ont. : Archives of Ontario, 1986.

108 Nisbet, Jack, 1949-. The mapmaker's eye : David Thompson on the Columbia Plateau / Jack Nisbet. -- Pullman : Washington State University Press, c2005.

109 Tyrrell, Joseph Burr, 1858-1957. A brief narrative of the journeys of David Thompson in north-western America [microform] : Read before the Canadian institute, March 3rd, 1888. -- Toronto : The Copp, Clark Company, 1888.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0874222850/qid=1138581530/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-8442569-7062341?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
The Mapmaker's Eye: David Thompson on the Columbia Plateau (Paperback)
by Jack Nisbet

I noticed you were wondering, in the above link, about the most recent book published concerning him.


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Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 29, 2006
11:43 PM

Post #2009441

We people in Montana don't consider bears a problem. We have an odor that repels them. HAHA After all we have to wrestle grizzlies here on every paddle.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 29, 2006
11:50 PM

Post #2009458

Updated the post above...since the link didn't work. Prolly way more than you'll ever want to know about him. ;)
imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 30, 2006
12:06 AM

Post #2009483

Cowabunga, Pam! You must be a research librarian.

And, bears have an oder (esp. @ eating carrion).

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
12:09 AM

Post #2009496

LOL...that I might be John. ;)

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
12:53 AM

Post #2009581

BTW Soferdig you'll probably run into a few other vets here as well. Both palmbob and drdon are also in your profession.

This message was edited Jan 29, 2006 8:03 PM
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
2:39 AM

Post #2009771

I did have a bear experience in the Sophie garden when I just finished it. Early one morning my wife woke me up and said a bear was digging up the new plants under the bird feeder. I without thinking threw on my red robe and ran down stairs and out into the garden. Upon arrival the bear stopped and noticed the guy in red and started to stand and look big, quite big when I remembered that I didn't even have a stick or whatever. So I did what all bear experts say to do. I raised my red robe over my head and Started talking loudly and slowly walking towards the Bruin making the largest profile I could at 5'8". Now the main reason the bear stopped challenging me and left the area in my opinion was that he could see that I also was a bruin and certainly was more than he could handle. My wife had other ideas but I dismissed them. HA HA
imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 30, 2006
4:13 PM

Post #2010640

Me thinks the bear thought he had stumbled into a strange neighborhood where male bears wear red robes. Decided things like that are none of business and moved on.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
5:22 PM

Post #2010727

I'd like to hear her ideas on the subject. ;)
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
6:23 PM

Post #2010797

What do you natives do for the skeeters? I have always used a Deet product from REI.
imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 30, 2006
6:31 PM

Post #2010814

DEET!!! In fact, we used 100% DEET issued by the army when I worked in Alaska. Pretty heavy duty stuff but, heck, the skeeters were too.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
6:34 PM

Post #2010820

You must remember that any descriptions from the male perspective are always exaggerated. My wife has an accurate ruler. So that is all I can say.
Though my garden is surounded by a large herd of commercialy raised elk. When I work in my garden I often interact with the elk on the other side of the fence. So one day during the rut a bull elk was defineing his territory by grunting, scraping with his antlers, and lowering his head and charging every time I came near to the fence. Well being a veterinarian I know how to communicate with animals. So I started to mark my territory on his head with my recycled beer. To my surprise he backed up and left the area and never bothered me again that season. Though I have had "Angel" the lead cow elk in the herd always following me along the fence when I come near. Its cute cause actually she hates me and does the lip smack of agression that is common to elk. When my friends come over to see the elk I tell them the story and tell them she is kissing me. LoL
imway2dumb
Gordonville, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 30, 2006
6:57 PM

Post #2010851

Ha, ha, ha!

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
7:03 PM

Post #2010856

At work and obviously kept this reply post up too long.
You are most definitely an animal whisperer Soferdig. ;)

We use regular store brands:
Deep Woods Off, Muskol, 6-12, and Watkins Insect Repellent Lotion.

Forgot... at the right time of year the ticks are downright nasty too. They aren't in Northern SK but the further south you come... :)~

This message was edited Jan 30, 2006 4:47 PM

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
7:17 PM

Post #2010866

I'm having an awful time, between work and the slowness of Daves, to post. Just saw your post above Sofer...you and Farley Mowat would have gotten along well.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
8:57 PM

Post #2010977

Farley gave me the idea. Never... One of my favorites.
Ticks here in Montana are primarily in spring. they tend to thin in Summer. Once I put a deer skin on me and chased my dog trying to get her to stop chasing deer. Well the deer ticks were hungry and ate the top of my head before I threw off the hide and ran for the river.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
9:09 PM

Post #2011007

Spring to mid summer here.
LOL...that too I can picture well.;) Used to canoe at a lake beside a family farm. Will never, ever, forget looking down and realizing that I had stepped into an area where they had planned to have a picnic. Hundreds of the little devils on my pants. Also spent one summer clearing a skiing/snowmobile trail at a Provincial Park...we had lots of practice burning/smothering them (wore bathing suits so we could strip down and search prior to leaving at the end of the day).

p.s. yep that's the book of Farley's I was thinking of too.

This message was edited Jan 30, 2006 4:12 PM
inanda
Winnipeg, MB
(Zone 2b)

January 30, 2006
9:27 PM

Post #2011043

Be very careful on Lake Winnipeg. I've been windbound there for 3 or 4 days at a time. Do lots of reading. Very dangerous. Winds are best just at dawn. Follow the shore line so you can get in if you have to do so.

The Grand Portage. Worst day ever. Two trips, one with the canoes and then back again fo rthe packs. You ARE MAD> 7 miles of MUD/SWAMP/Blackfly. Hope you have been reading some of the voyageur diaries. Or Parkman. Do you have the Govt. of Canada maps?

inanda
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
9:33 PM

Post #2011054

You will have to forgive me but I have joined the "black shoe society". Its sole purpose is to save a Canadian garden by bringing it south to the states. Try to forgive me. http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/572324/

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
9:38 PM

Post #2011064

:b and we were sooooooooo nice to you! ;)
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
10:00 PM

Post #2011088

ianda I figure I'll portage along the highway near by and pull my canoe on wheels. LOL Of course I will be excreting deet out every pore by the end of that trip. And my eyes will be swollen shut so the flies no longer can bother me.
How much of the voyageur trip did you do? From where to where?
I have heard that the east side of the lake is best due to the westerlies will bring you to land rather than out to sea
Also how do I get to Lk of the woods from Winnipeg?

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
10:05 PM

Post #2011101

We drove from Winnipeg to Lake of the Woods...but that was with a rather large sailboat. ;) Hopefully inanda will come back with another water route.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
11:15 PM

Post #2011243

Driving is no problem with me I am breaking up the trip at this point anyway. Do you still sail? I have a 22' S2 (Grandslam) that Karen and I plan to travel with in a couple of years when we have more time off.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
11:38 PM

Post #2011298

Not mine (I was just a deck swabber)...it belonged to a cousin. He is a past-president of the Manitoba Sailing Assoc: http://www.sailmanitoba.com/about/about.htm and is now involved with the Ontario Sailing Assoc. : http://ontariosailing.ca/


If I can get ahold of him I'll dmail you his address/phone #. He knows Manitoba, Ontario (and some of rest of the world) very well (sailing wise).

This message was edited Jan 30, 2006 9:32 PM
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
11:44 PM

Post #2011310

I have enough sites in Alberta and BC to keep me busy after I retire.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 30, 2006
11:52 PM

Post #2011333

I've got a cousin at the coast that also owns one...he's retired RCMP Jet pilot and now works for Government inspecting all planes that fly there (he's about your age).

The one above tho, I'm sure, knows Lake Winnipeg very well and the waterways leading to Lake of the Woods.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 30, 2006
11:59 PM

Post #2011349

I'm focused on the Voyegeur route now. I have sailed a lot here and puget sound It doesn't get much better.

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 31, 2006
12:12 AM

Post #2011375

[quote]Also how do I get to Lk of the woods from Winnipeg?[/quote]
That's why I mentioned the first one...if there is a water route, that a canoe could take, from Lake Winnipeg to Lake-of-the-Woods he'd know that as well.
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

January 31, 2006
12:42 AM

Post #2011438

Yes I have seen it but it has a long portage. Looks like the river is small also. I think I'll end at the take-out on L Winnipeg and go home. Then do the Grand Portage to Lake of the Woods when my permit lets me at a later date. Besides that lets me go down river all the way. LOL

Lilypon

Lilypon
Moose Jaw, SK
(Zone 3b)

January 31, 2006
3:59 AM

Post #2012141

Prolly wise and sounds like you know it well too. ;)

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