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ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2005
3:25 PM

Post #1544092

I found this thing in a cacoon in my sprinkler. The photos look a little weird because I had to play around with it in Photoshop so you can see more of the details. Can anyone identify this?

Thanks,
Kelly

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ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2005
3:26 PM

Post #1544097

A shot of his or her belly...

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levilyla
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

June 13, 2005
4:02 PM

Post #1544171

eeewwww...ask critterologist
henryr10
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6b)

June 13, 2005
4:08 PM

Post #1544186

Looks like a Pupea (ae?) of some sort.
How big is it?

Ric
ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2005
4:13 PM

Post #1544198

Uh-oh... I'm looking it up online, and I'm thinking it might be a Japanese beetle pupa! :(

It's about 3/4 of an inch long.

Kelly
Kachinagirl
Modesto, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 13, 2005
4:18 PM

Post #1544211

..could be a moth. Put it in a jar and see what happens...a science project!

K
ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2005
4:33 PM

Post #1544240

I could, but I accidentally killed it. :)

The more I try to find out, the more it seems it could be a Japanese or Rose Chafer beetle pupa. Anyone out there know for sure?


Kelly
Ponderer
Keithville, LA
(Zone 8a)

June 13, 2005
9:14 PM

Post #1544858

Don't know which one, but do know for sure it's some species of moth pupae. You can see the outline of the wings, legs, and antennae in the pupal covering.

John

PerennialGirl
Winnipeg, MB
(Zone 4a)

June 14, 2005
1:13 AM

Post #1545319

I think it's an Alien...lol.
:) Donna
hope43
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 7a)

June 14, 2005
1:48 AM

Post #1545406

looked like burned meat loaf with a tail! lol... sorry... but was first thing i thought of..
ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 14, 2005
5:59 AM

Post #1545972

Thanks, guys. It does look like burned meat loaf, doesn't it!

Kelly :)

Happy_1

Happy_1
Chicago, IL
(Zone 5b)

June 15, 2005
1:30 PM

Post #1549113

I believe that it is a cicada that's about ready to pop...Hap
rcn48
Lexington, VA
(Zone 6a)

June 16, 2005
10:10 AM

Post #1551379

ceallachg, you definitely have the pupa of a silk moth. If you can describe to me the cocoon (size, how it was attached to the sprinkler, etc.) I can tell you what species it is. The most common choices would be between Promethea Moth, Polyphemus Moth, Luna Moth, or if you're real lucky a Cecropia Moth.

Happy_1

Happy_1
Chicago, IL
(Zone 5b)

June 16, 2005
1:23 PM

Post #1551585

If its a cecropia, I wan it...I hatched one as a child and it was beautiful...so sad to let it go, but it was happy...

Grandma, what big eyes you have...LOL When you see it you will know what I mean...LOL

Hap
Kachinagirl
Modesto, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 16, 2005
1:37 PM

Post #1551630

oohhhh, Luna Moths are lovely!
ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2005
4:00 PM

Post #1551976

Hi

It was about a quarter of an inch long, and it was wrapped in a light yellow cocoon that seemed to be attached lengthwise to the sprinkler, but it was definitely stuck at the top, where its head was (I think). Are silk moths good or bad?

Edited to say: The little guy itself was a quarter of an inch, the cocoon was about an inch, maybe an inch and a quarter.

Kelly

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ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2005
4:29 PM

Post #1552047

Actually... I got out the measuring tape to make sure. The little guy was actually about an inch and a quarter, and the cocoon was 2 inches long.

Kelly
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 16, 2005
4:31 PM

Post #1552051

I prefer the meat loaf diagnosis - had me laughing and chuckling!
rcn48
Lexington, VA
(Zone 6a)

June 18, 2005
10:07 AM

Post #1556596

ceallachg, I need to know a full description of the cocoon in order to identify it. It's two inches long. But how was it attached to the sprinkler? Did it have a hanging 'strap' to the top of the cocoon? Was it round or egg shaped? Was it papery thin? Things like that. In my opinion, yes silk moths are good. If you've never seen one before, leave your back door light on all night and at dawn look to see what came to the light. Silk moths usually have a wing span of approx. 6"! They are stunning. I have reared and bred them since childhood. My wife still can't believe that I have my moths in the freezer! One of these days I'll get them mounted.
deann
Au Gres, MI
(Zone 5a)

June 18, 2005
10:13 AM

Post #1556597

ceallachg...keep an eye out, the moth police are gonna come looking for you...
ceallachg
Manchester, NH
(Zone 5a)

June 18, 2005
3:46 PM

Post #1557028

Shoot, Deann, I didn't realize they read this forum! :(

Anyway, like I said it seemed to be attached lengthwise, but was definitely most strongly anchored at one end. It was elongated more like an egg, and it was thin enough to see through it a bit.

I'm starting to wish I hadn't _accidentally_ killed it. ;)

Kelly

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