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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

June 27, 2005
2:18 AM

Post #1578669

Hi everyone,

Here is Ms. "Hot Lips", Salvia microphylla. It's a pleasure to see so many flowers on this plant. Last year I had only a few, but I did have it in a different location so maybe I've placed it in a more optimal location.

Joseph

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

June 27, 2005
2:25 AM

Post #1578689

Here's Buchanan's sage, Salvia buchananii, the most intense magenta flowers I've seen, even more so than Rose campion. This salvia has cool shiny leaves and is just now starting to take off in growth in my garden.

Joseph

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

June 27, 2005
2:29 AM

Post #1578703

Here's a close up shot of Buchanan's sage flower. I like the fuzzy upper lip of the flower, it's sort of a larger version of S. chiapensis.

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BassetMom
Torrance, CA
(Zone 10a)

June 27, 2005
2:34 AM

Post #1578714

Just beautiful!

Barb
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

June 27, 2005
2:40 AM

Post #1578729

Thank you, Barb! Most of my new salvia additions are late summer bloomers so it's a treat to see flowers so early in the year.

Here's S. napifolia, whose common name I do not know. I do know it is a huge bee and butterfly magnet, and is winter hardy in my garden. It has small flowers of light blue, and is a prolific seed maker.

Joseph

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Kim_M
Hamburg, PA
(Zone 6b)

June 27, 2005
2:44 AM

Post #1578742

Green with Envy
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

June 27, 2005
2:49 AM

Post #1578757

Hi Kim,

I have two transplants coming along from seeds you traded to me of S. przewalskii and can't wait to get them in their new home out in the garden. I will have to mulch that one this fall if I want to see flowers next year.

Joseph
Ivy1
Mystic, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 8, 2005
10:32 PM

Post #1609039

Help! I bought Salvia Brenthurst for my window boxes.It's a lovely pale pinky peach. Brenthurst has bloomed for a month and now there are just little stubs all along the tall stem. Do I pick the little stubs off to get another bloom? Do I cut it down? Do I do nothing? Can I get another bloom? It's so beautiful, I really hope someone can help me.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

July 8, 2005
11:58 PM

Post #1609251

I suspect the stubs you speak of are the seed calyces. You can snip off the flower stem if you don't want to save the seeds, this will stimulate more flower stems to be produced. Or if you want the seeds, you can wait for the seeds inside calyx ripen; they turn brown/blackish in color.
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

July 9, 2005
12:25 AM

Post #1609293

Wow! Your salvia collection is awesome!

I checked my S. nemorosa 'Caradona' today, and it looks like the calyxes are falling off the stalk before the seeds ripen... Would it work to pick the stems while the seeds are still a little green, put them in a paper bag, and hope they continue to mature?

I shall have to hope I find some seeds to tempt you into a trade... LMK what you're looking for, and I'll start hunting!
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

July 9, 2005
3:17 AM

Post #1609647

Hi Jill,

It wouldn't do to collect unripened seeds...don't know why the calyces are falling off. Maybe it's been too wet lately?

No worries, we'll salvia trade soon. Your trade of the pink columbine seeds will be out in tomorrow's mail! Thanks!!

Joseph
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

July 9, 2005
3:30 AM

Post #1609753

Well, the 'Caradona' is still putting up some blooms, so I'll watch them closely and hopefully get some seeds.

Thanks, Joseph!
Flicker
Covington, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 12, 2005
1:59 AM

Post #1617077

Microphyla works well for me. I have" watermelon". Hotlips is smashing. I will look for it!
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

July 12, 2005
3:28 AM

Post #1617658

Here is another picture of S. microphylla "Hot Lips", showing the variability in color when the weather gets warmer.

Joseph

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Ivy1
Mystic, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 12, 2005
1:17 PM

Post #1618268

Thank you Gerris2! Here is a picture of Brenthurst:

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

July 12, 2005
1:49 PM

Post #1618330

Ivy,

Wow, great color on that flower! Such vivid pink color!

Joseph
Ivy1
Mystic, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 12, 2005
1:58 PM

Post #1618353

It is actually really peachy when it starts, and the tip is pinker. Then it darkens just a tad. I just love it.

Indigo Spires is next to it, but was too big to get in the picture!

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2005
2:51 AM

Post #1682438

You can't get enough of Hot Lips (oh oh can I say that here? LOL).

Joseph

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2005
2:52 AM

Post #1682440

Here are a few more of Hot Lips.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2005
2:55 AM

Post #1682442

An all red form of Hot Lips...

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2005
2:58 AM

Post #1682448

Lastly, a different angle on the earlier flower set.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2005
3:01 AM

Post #1682452

Here are leaves of Rose Leaf Sage (Salvia involucrata). Love the red veins on the leaf.

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grikdog
St. Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

August 10, 2005
7:51 PM

Post #1683503

I was just at the garden store and picked up a Salvia x hotlips! I have to say though, as is often the case,the color of the pictures doesn't do it justice. It seems more cherry red to me in person. It really is a beautiful plant. What zone is it hardy to? I am in zone 4a so I was thinking of trying to bring in under lights this fall.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2005
10:02 PM

Post #1683688

It is not hardy in Wilmington, DE, although I have another cultivar of that species that is winterhardy here. You named it as a hybrid, I thought it was Salvia microphylla?

Joseph
grikdog
St. Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

August 11, 2005
12:26 AM

Post #1683889

Thanks for the info. Don't pay any attention to what I wrote. I know nothing about this plant except I couldn't pass by its beautiful flowers at the garden store this afternoon. I wonder if it will overwinter indoors? Salvia microphylla it is then. The tag on the plant was singularly unspecific about it - just a picture and Salvia Hot Lips
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 11, 2005
1:09 AM

Post #1683974

grikdog,

Here's some information about Hot Lips http://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Current/Detail/05424.html I see it is hardy to Zone7, I'm going to leave her overwinter and see if she arises from the thatch in the spring!

I tried to overwinter it indoors, and the mites got it and before that the plant looked pretty miserable. Maybe you will have better luck!

Joseph

grikdog
St. Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

August 11, 2005
1:37 AM

Post #1684023

Cool! Thanks Gerris2. When I first saw the picture on the link I was wondering if I had the wrong plant because mine are all red. Interesting that the flowers change color depending on the time of year. Keep your fingers crossed!

You know it might be kind of fun to collect some seed from it and see what you would get as well. I wonder how tiny Salvia seed is.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 11, 2005
12:31 PM

Post #1684738

I never saw a seed develop from last year's plant, I will check mine to see if there are any green ones.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 18, 2005
3:48 AM

Post #1700695

Here are some pictures.

This is an unknown, which shall be named "Mia's Salvia" until I get an identification. It is very tall, at present it is almost 4 feet tall, with this presentation of orange red flowers.



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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 18, 2005
3:50 AM

Post #1700700

Here is Salvia coccinea "Lady in Red", really a nice deep red color.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 18, 2005
3:54 AM

Post #1700711

Here is Salvia azurea "Nekan", which is almost 5 feet tall and climbing. Really nice blue flowers, which are difficult to photograph since the plant is so tall and I am not Joe Stretch. LOL

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 18, 2005
3:57 AM

Post #1700717

Another S. azurea "Nekan".

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 18, 2005
4:00 AM

Post #1700721

Lastly, Salvia uliginosa.

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zarcanat
Montreal, QC
(Zone 4b)

August 18, 2005
3:33 PM

Post #1701495

Hello Gerris2, seem to me that you have quite a collection of salvias! If you were to be lucky collecting seeds, I would be very interested in a trade or two... let me know your interests. I am a growing lover of salvias!
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 18, 2005
4:14 PM

Post #1701567

Zarcanat,

Yes, by all means I will be collecting seeds if the plant make them. Let us keep in touch for trading! Do you have a list of what you have already? If so, please D-mail it to me and then I will know what not to offer to you. Thanks!

Joseph
grikdog
St. Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

August 19, 2005
12:10 AM

Post #1702667

Gerris2 I took some cuttings from my new salvia and it rooted like mad. Are all salvias easy to root?
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2005
1:37 AM

Post #1702897

That's awesome, grikdog. I think they are easy to root if it is the right time of year, and you obviously have found when THAT is! Congrats!!! What did you root?
grikdog
St. Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

August 19, 2005
1:55 AM

Post #1702939

It was some cuttings I took from my Hot Lips I just bought. I wanted to make sure I had a few extras because it sounded like it didn't overwinter all that well indoors.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2005
2:08 AM

Post #1702959

Verrrry cool I must try rooting some cuttings of my Hot Lips S. microphylla! One can't have enough of this little gem!
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 21, 2005
9:20 PM

Post #1709319

Here is Salvia guaranitica, loved it when the Syrphid fly flew in as I was about to snap the shot!

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grikdog
St. Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

August 21, 2005
10:56 PM

Post #1709546

Gerris2 you must be the Salvia King!

Beautiful flower and the fly is cute too.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 22, 2005
1:40 AM

Post #1709937

Thanks, Grikdog, but no, I'm just a growing enthusiast for this group. This year I went wild seed starting with the seeds of species I had collected or bought over the last couple of years, and it has been a learning experience. Do you receive email from the Salvia listserv on Yahoo? I learn so much from the big time enthusiasts there. I can send you the link to sign up if you want. Let me know, ok?

Joseph
grikdog
St. Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

August 22, 2005
1:49 AM

Post #1709966

That would be cool. I only have a couple varieties but it would be fun to try a few others. Thanks
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 22, 2005
2:08 AM

Post #1710021

Here's the main page where you can surf to the registration page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Salvia/

Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 27, 2005
7:22 PM

Post #1723587

My Salvia blepharophylla 'Diablo' began flowering this week. It has such an intense red-orange flower! It prefers growing in shade, can you believe it? Too bad it isn't winter hardy in Delaware.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 27, 2005
7:25 PM

Post #1723595

Here is another shot of "Mia's Salvia", a big time hummingbird magnet!


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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 28, 2005
11:11 PM

Post #1726085

I like this blue of Salvia farinacea.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 28, 2005
11:14 PM

Post #1726090

Two more shots of Salvia blepharophylla 'Diablo'.

#1.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

August 28, 2005
11:15 PM

Post #1726091

and #2.

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critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

August 31, 2005
8:33 PM

Post #1732058

I just realized I've been following this thread avidly & enjoying each new picture, but I hadn't yet posted to say so. You've got quite a collection, there! If you have a salvia bed, I'd love to see a photo of the effect en masse.

Thanks for sharing these beauties in your garden!

Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

September 1, 2005
1:59 AM

Post #1732613

I am afraid the garden is not as photogenic as the individual plants. I have them tucked in here and there and will need to do some rearranging this spring. Thank you for your kind words, critterologist!

Joseph
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 2, 2005
12:50 AM

Post #1734541

Great pictures Joseph! Guess you really love your salvias and the photos show you care for them. Do you have any pineapple sage? I remember that being very fragrant.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

September 2, 2005
12:55 AM

Post #1734550

I got a plant of pineapple sage for 99 cents on an auction on eBay, and it is really growing out nicely...can't wait to see its flowers, pirl!!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 2, 2005
1:07 AM

Post #1734581

The scent was so light and so beautiful. The color was amazing and the bees adored it. I'll have to remember it next spring. All of the salvias have a delicacy all their own. They almost remind me of the Columbine, not in flower, but in their grace.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

September 2, 2005
1:37 AM

Post #1734650

Pineapple sage is a fall-flowering plant yes? (hope, hope) so far I have yet to see the buds.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 2, 2005
1:46 AM

Post #1734663

I thought it was about now that it flowered but don't bet on my answer!
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

September 2, 2005
2:13 AM

Post #1734696

Thanks! I'll keep hoping.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
2:46 AM

Post #1798018

My Salvia elegans began flowering, what a fantastic red! Too bad all the hummingbirds have returned south for the winter.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
2:52 AM

Post #1798029

Here is Salvia uliginosa (I think), in macrophotographs.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
2:54 AM

Post #1798032

#2 of uliginosa (?)

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:00 AM

Post #1798062

A close up macrophotograph of Nekan sage.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:02 AM

Post #1798069

These next photos are Salvia leucantha 'Midnight'. Really fuzzy flowers and calyces. The bees are swarming all over the flowers, getting at the nectar at the base of the flower petals from the outside.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:04 AM

Post #1798074

#2 of Midnight.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:10 AM

Post #1798085

Here is Salvia involucrata...has the coolest flowers, they unfold out of a structure that looks just like a rose that has yet to open.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:13 AM

Post #1798096

A series of photos of Salvia koyamae, a nice yellow flowering sage that can take some shade and still be happy.


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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:15 AM

Post #1798101

#2 koyamae showing big deltoid leaves it displays.


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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:19 AM

Post #1798107

Look how this foraging bee fits so nicely into the koyamae flower. She was really plugged into that flower!


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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
3:26 AM

Post #1798125

Lastly, a photo of Salvia praeclara, a nice orange red flower with interesting lower lip shape.

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Ivy1
Mystic, CT
(Zone 6b)

October 5, 2005
12:45 PM

Post #1798529

Those are gorgeous photos- I especially love Midnight. What a color!

I am definitely growing more Salvia next year. My Indigo Spires is still going strong, after blooming the whole season without a break!

I grew Pineapple Sage a few years ago and besides being huge and beautiful, it is great to cook with. It's especially good mixed with sausage, winter squash and almond rice pilaf.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
7:07 PM

Post #1799120

Hi Ivy,

Thanks so much, I really appreciate your nice comment!

Indigo Spires is great, isn't it? Color all summer long, who could ask for more?

Some of these salvias get really big, like the Midnight S. leucantha. I would allow 3 feet minimum all around the point where you dig the hole to plant your transplant. Maybe 4.

This is the first year I have grown most of these, and it is fun to learn about them first-hand. So much more rewarding than reading up on them in a book or on the http://WWW.

Joseph
mornin_gayle
Bloomingdale, OH
(Zone 6a)

October 5, 2005
7:34 PM

Post #1799172

Joseph your salvias are amazing!

Could you take a peek at this and tell me if I have it named right? I have really fallen for those deep blue stems and flowers.

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/543551/

thanks!

mg
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 5, 2005
8:51 PM

Post #1799313

Hi MG,

Thank you for your kind comment!

I am really not a scholar on the cultivars of S. farinacea. The one you show in the picture is really lovely and I have some of the species in my garden too! I can check my salvia books to see if I can get a match, but it appears you have it pretty well nailed down.

Joseph
mornin_gayle
Bloomingdale, OH
(Zone 6a)

October 5, 2005
11:07 PM

Post #1799521

Thank you for peeking! I really do love that one, and I wanted to make sure I knew her name. Now I'm just hoping she makes it thru the winter.

mg
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
9:57 PM

Post #1801295

I took some more pictures, I can't resist!

Here is Salvia involucrata a couple days later. It has such an intense color in real life, these photos come close in matching the color.

Joseph

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:00 PM

Post #1801300

Here is another view.

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mornin_gayle
Bloomingdale, OH
(Zone 6a)

October 6, 2005
10:01 PM

Post #1801304

Outstanding!

mg
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:05 PM

Post #1801309

This one just knocks my socks off and it is just now coming into bloom, it is Salvia mexicana 'Limelight'. The plant is very tall and spreads out, and has produced these very long wands of flower stems adorned with the lemon/lime colored calyces. The lavender-deep blue flowers are just now starting to appear.


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mornin_gayle
Bloomingdale, OH
(Zone 6a)

October 6, 2005
10:06 PM

Post #1801310

Cool contrast.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:12 PM

Post #1801328

Thank you morning_gayle! More to come!

Here is Salvia yunnanensis that I had gotten from Salvia Guy in a GW trade a couple years ago. The flower itself is small, but the plant throws out quite a few at one time so you get a good color impact. The lower lip is nicely streaked with a cream color. It tends to flop over but if planted between plants with stout stems it can get support from its neighbors.

#1.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:13 PM

Post #1801329

yunnanensis #2.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:14 PM

Post #1801339

side view of yunnanensis.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:18 PM

Post #1801347

Here is Salvia taraxacifolia, a nice small salvia fit for a rock garden. It is very cool in that besides having these light pink flowers, its leaves look very much like those of dandelions or thistle.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:20 PM

Post #1801351

#2 of taraxacifolia.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:24 PM

Post #1801359

Here is another image of Salvia praeclara. I wish the hummingbirds were still around to enjoy these flowers.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2005
10:27 PM

Post #1801366

Last one for now, a non-stop flowering species along with Lady in Red and Coral Nymph, this is Salvia coccinea 'Snow Nymph'. It has such pure white flowers that it is difficult for me to get a good image of it because the light meter gets fooled by the white flowers.

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hemlady
Melvindale, MI
(Zone 5a)

October 7, 2005
1:17 PM

Post #1802475

Lovely pictures. I never knew there were so many different kinds of salvia.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 7, 2005
4:25 PM

Post #1802754

Thank you hemlady, there are reportedly 900 or maybe more species of salvias, can you believe it? So many salvias, so little time!
Brugie
Chariton, IA
(Zone 5b)

October 7, 2005
5:12 PM

Post #1802827

Gosh, I was thinking as I was scrolling down through and looking at the pictures that I didn't know there were so many salvia's. Then I read your post above, Joseph, saying there are 900 or more species of salvias. Gosh...time and space!! Great pictures.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 7, 2005
5:20 PM

Post #1802847

Thanks, Brugie, some salvias are diminutive, and others want to take over the garden and more! Fortunately those large ones have the most fantastic flowers.
mornin_gayle
Bloomingdale, OH
(Zone 6a)

October 7, 2005
5:38 PM

Post #1802893

Gerris2 which are the taller ones, and how tall do they get in full sun? I'd like to plan a bit for next year and Salvias are rapidly becoming an obsession. Ha, like I'm not obsessing over just about any plants I see.

If you know of taller reds, purples, pinks or BLUES, can you recommend any?

I'd appreciate it very much.

mg
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 7, 2005
5:43 PM

Post #1802904

MG, if you dmail me with specific species, if I know from first hand experience, I'd be happy to tell you how tall they got for me.

Joseph
mornin_gayle
Bloomingdale, OH
(Zone 6a)

October 7, 2005
5:54 PM

Post #1802920

I don't know enough about them *yet* to have species questions, drat it! I was just hoping you could think of taller ones off the top of your head. I only have 2 growing here so far, and I know I will have many more in the future. I really like the 2 I have, but I keep wishing they were a bit taller.

Does that make sense?

mg
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 7, 2005
8:20 PM

Post #1803235

How tall would you want them, and when in the season do you want flowers? Many do not flower until late summer.
jackieshar
Texas/Okla central b
United States
(Zone 7b)

October 10, 2005
2:18 PM

Post #1808164

This bloom looks like your mexicana a bit..discription for growth habit sounds the same...but the foilage seems different, the bloom is a deep blue black.
If it is ,indeed, something you don't have, I have seedlings available now...I am wild about your snow nympth, desperately seeking some salvia you dont have I can trade

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jackieshar
Texas/Okla central b
United States
(Zone 7b)

October 10, 2005
2:58 PM

Post #1808229

also this coral is abundant now

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jackieshar
Texas/Okla central b
United States
(Zone 7b)

October 10, 2005
3:19 PM

Post #1808260

I don't know the proper names for most of mine. I grow simply for the beauty in the plant. This is a great small white that doesn't get very tall, I grow it under the others. Could this be your alba? I wish now I had kept up with the names

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 10, 2005
4:20 PM

Post #1808352

Hi Jackie,

The awesome blue in the first picture looks like Salvia guaranitica Black and Blue, what a great plant isn't it?? I love the intense coral color of your Coral Nymph. The white is very cool, to me it appears not to be Snow Nymph because the leaves seem different from that of Salvia coccinea which is the species for Coral Nymph and Snow Nymph. If any of these make seeds, we can trade for the Snow Nymph I have lots of seeds.

Joseph
girlgroupgirl

October 13, 2005
9:29 PM

Post #1814574

Joseph, can you tell me a bit more about the first salvia, salvia buchananii?
Is it hardy for you?
What type of soil does it like?
Did you grow it from seed?

Salvia involucrata is in bud in my garden, it's just gorgeous!

Your mystery orange/red salvia..how tall is it? Are the leaves scented at all, besides a "green" scent?

girlgroupgirl
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 14, 2005
12:30 AM

Post #1814839

Salvia buchananii is only hardy to Zone 9 so it will be an annual for me. I shamelessly bought a plant but I can't say where in the forum...I like to grow my transplants from seeds but to tell you the truth I have not ever seen seeds offered for the species.

involucrata is just out of this world, you will LOVE it.

The mystery salvia grew to maybe 4 feet tall, looks just like a coccinea except for the height. Have you an idea what it is? It hasn't a leaf scent but I will check to verify my feeble memory.

You are in the zone to grow all the cool salvias, GGG!!
girlgroupgirl

October 14, 2005
9:42 PM

Post #1816425

Salvia Darcyii for the mystery red?
I have the same salvia, I swear I do. It was also sent to me as salvia coccinea = no scented leaves, 4' tall, gorgeous. Makes loads of seed.
I don't know if Darcyii has scented leaves, my salvia book doesn't say (see Joseph, I even bought the BOOK!!).
Some of my salvias lived over summer, some bit the dust. Our heavy soil is dislikable to some, but at the price which I purchased them, it was well worth experimentation. They are just finding sea legs this summer, as I planted late. Next year I'm hoping for a spectacular showing!

P.S. I have an even taller red salvia. I have tried to see if I can get seeds from it. It stands 8" or so taller than guarantica and blooms only very late. I was told it was only hardy to zone 9...but so far, no hardiness problems here (and honestly, we are rated zone 7 too, but my garden has never behaved in a zone 7 manner).

GGG
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 15, 2005
3:40 AM

Post #1817057

GGG,

I like the thoughts of it being S. darcyi. I will have to dig out my salvia book to do a comparison. Which book are you referring to, Betsy Clebsch's? It is awesome and there are a couple other references too that are helpful but they are written for British gardeners...still great information on the salvias however.

You are zone 7? Wow, maybe I should have hope that some of these tender salvias just might make it if I mulch them well.

I planted out Salvia yunnanensis I got at a local garden fair and can't wait to see its flowers. I saw a picture of them on the company's web site and they look like how I pictured the much desirable yet elusive S. hians' flowers. Also got another Chinese salvia at that garden fair but I forget its name at present time. They said it was winter hardy in Pennsylvania if grown in well drained soil. We shall see if they wake up this spring.

Joseph
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 20, 2005
1:26 AM

Post #1826144

Salvia mexicana Limelight...can't stop looking at this one!

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 20, 2005
1:28 AM

Post #1826149

Another one of S. mexicana Limelight.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 20, 2005
1:30 AM

Post #1826153

Here is Salvia azurea 'Nekan', can't quite capture the exact blue on this flower.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 20, 2005
1:31 AM

Post #1826154

#2 of 'Nekan' salvia.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 20, 2005
1:33 AM

Post #1826158

I finally got a picture of Salvia 'Waverly' that was not totally washed out by overexposure...love the purple stems with white flowers!

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 20, 2005
1:39 AM

Post #1826170

Another one of Salvia elegans, the intense red in the the flowers stands out in the garden.

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drdon
Temecula, CA
(Zone 8b)

October 25, 2005
2:19 AM

Post #1836660

You've sure got a great collection Gerris2! Fabulous flowers indeed. I especially admire the S. elegans. It certainly lives up to its name.

best,
don

A pic of S. guaranitica 'Costa Rican Blue' being visited by a hummer.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 25, 2005
2:30 AM

Post #1836690

Thank you, Don, what a great picture you have there! Don't you love the pineapple fragrance of S. elegans?? Have you grown S. spathacea? That one is equally as fragrant, I am overwintering it indoors with hopes of seeing flowers this coming year.

Joseph
drdon
Temecula, CA
(Zone 8b)

October 26, 2005
1:43 PM

Post #1839557

hiya Gerris2,

My collection of salvias is still increasing and many of the fabulous plants you have and have shared here I do not have...yet...lol. But seeing them in this thread has indeed inspired me to put them on the 'must have' list. I've got S. dorisiana in my greenhouse right now in hopes to see it flower, but the foliage has the most wonderful peach-like fragrance.

Here's a pic of S. chiapensis blooming in the yard.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 26, 2005
4:48 PM

Post #1839834

Hi Don,

I have cuttings of S. scutellarioides, if you would like to trade. It is a shade lover, and ought to be grown in a semiconfined area as it likes to run a little; it roots from its leaf nodes readily, even sending out roots with the nodes up in the air. I posted a link to a picture I took of its flowers in the plant trading forum.

I enjoy S. chiapensis very much. My flowers are a bit more red than what is shown in your picture. It is a perfect plant to install underneath some of the more giant growing species.

I am going to try to start some species from seed over the winter. I was able to wake up quite a few seeds this year and even got S. glutinosa to go, although that one was difficult for me. I found some European Rock Garden plant nurseries that market seeds, and they have some different salvia species, so I am trying to figure out the logistics of making a purchase or three. Some require a huge purchase, I may have to steer clear of those companies.

Have you grown S. hians? I am still looking for a reliable source for seeds of this one.

Joseph
drdon
Temecula, CA
(Zone 8b)

October 26, 2005
5:45 PM

Post #1839945

hiya Gerris2,

This is what is in my collection so far.

S. patens
S. patens var.Guanajuato
S. madrensis
S. iodantha
S. involucrata
S. gesneriiflora
S. gesneriiflora 'Tequila'
S. microphylla 'Berzerkeley'
S. microphylla 'Hot Lips'
S. microphylla 'Kew Red'
S. greggii 'Flame'
S. guaranitica 'Indigo Spires'
S. guaranitica 'Costa Rican Blue'
S. guaranitica 'Argentine Skies'
S. guaranitica 'Black and Blue'
S. guaranitica 'Purple Majesty'
S. coahuilensis
S. chiapensis
S. sinaloensis
S. confertiflora
S. melissodora
S. dorisiana
S. sclarea
S. sclarea 'Turkistan White'
S. uliginosa
S. nubicola
S. leucantha
S. cacaliifolia
S. blepharophylla 'Diablo'
S. officinalis
S. corrugata

I'm still collecting new world species and have had very good success with vegetative propagation of almost all I have. So I'm more than happy to do trades in the spring of things on this list that you might like.

a pic of S. m. 'Berzerkeley'

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

October 26, 2005
6:00 PM

Post #1839960

I will have to do a survey of what ought to survive the winter here, and get back with you with a list. That is a great collection you have, Don! You must have a good sized garden to give them room to spread out. Thanks for sharing the list, and let's plan to trade if possible.

Joseph
drdon
Temecula, CA
(Zone 8b)

October 26, 2005
7:52 PM

Post #1840112

hiya Gerris2,

You've got a deal.

best,
don
broots
Cochrane, ON
(Zone 2b)

November 9, 2005
2:56 AM

Post #1865233

Joseph, I have thoroughly enjoyed your salvia pictorial. Great photos. Boy, that 'Limelight' is really something. Must make quite an impressive display. Is 'Midnight' hardy in your zone? Would you believe I attempted to grow S. leucantha this year? What was I thinking? Obviously I wasn't thinking. I did manage to get buds that were ready to open & then one night temp's dropped below what was expected & I lost it. But hey, that's what gardening is all about, right?

Linda
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

November 9, 2005
3:02 AM

Post #1865255

Hi Linda,

Thank you so much!

S. leucantha is not winter hardy in my garden. I had to dig them all up and put them in temporary holding containers to overwinter them indoors in my garage. In and amongst the brugmmansias. I have lights on them many plants that are located in the garage. So we'll see if they make it.

Joseph
Spider07
Lilburn, GA

May 25, 2006
3:22 PM

Post #2316119

Hi Joseph,

what a collection!!

Where do you get your salvias from? Are there any nurseries that stock them?
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

May 25, 2006
4:11 PM

Post #2316239

Hi Spider07,

I get some plants from various nurseries by mail order. I also grow my own from seeds. I can provide my assessment of who I would use again if you'd like to d-mail me.

Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate it. I have some Chinese species in the garden this year, and am hoping for some great flowers soon!

Joseph
Spider07
Lilburn, GA

May 25, 2006
5:53 PM

Post #2316541

I would be very grateful if you could send me a Dmail with the names of the nurseries.

Your salvia collection is the best I have ever seen and I have seen many when I lived in England!!!
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

May 25, 2006
7:28 PM

Post #2316815

Spider07,

Shall do on the nurseries. Thank you so much for your very nice comment, you would laugh when you saw my garden, it is so small. You can pack a lot of plants into a small space if you are crafty about it all.

I had some surprise survivors: S. involucrata and Hot Lips Salvia made it through the winter. I was pleased to see S. evansiana make it through too. It was a mild winter, I even had a Dahlia survive the winter! Of all the plants I dug up and overwintered indoors, the only ones to make it were S. yunnanensis and S. taraxicifolia. I have a bunch of new ones going and hope to be able to provide more pictures soon.

Joseph
Spider07
Lilburn, GA

May 25, 2006
7:50 PM

Post #2316867

Good luck Joseph, you sure have talent for growing them!

I have a small garden as well that I am starting from scratch as it was completely bare. i am planning on growing mainly butterfly and hummingbird flowers so I am very interested in Salvias.I have two at the moment: S. guaranitica ( I do not know if this is the correct spelling) and S. Black and Blue. I am going to order more. I fell in love with the new pink one and S. coccinea.
best wishes
Anna
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

May 25, 2006
8:02 PM

Post #2316897

Anna,

Just sent you a d-mail.

The first two you named will bring in tons of hummingbirds, you'll love it!

My first salvias were the cultivars of S. coccinea. Easy to grow and hummers love them too.

The new pink one? Which one is this? I got one in that is pink very recently, planted it today, it is Salvia greggii 'Teresa', has 2 pink stripes on the flower. How cute is that?

Joseph


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Spider07
Lilburn, GA

May 25, 2006
8:27 PM

Post #2316960

pink stripes?!?! that must be the cutest salvia of them all.

The pink is Brenthurst. It is gorgeous.

I got your Dmail.

thank you, Joseph.
Anna
Ivy1
Mystic, CT
(Zone 6b)

May 26, 2006
1:40 PM

Post #2318817

Brenthurst is my favorite, too. Peachy pinky beauty!
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

May 26, 2006
2:22 PM

Post #2318933

Brenthurst is more pink with less cream in the corolla? That would be nice to have.

I just bought a Salvia plant whose cultivar name is 'Teresa', but now was told it was not microphylla but greggii. I will have to google for the truth LOL.

It is greggii. I hope I have it planted in the right location. Time will tell.

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Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

March 21, 2007
7:59 AM

Post #3304460

Nice to have this thread in its new home!
mainegrdner
Mariaville, ME
(Zone 5a)

March 21, 2007
8:19 AM

Post #3304497

I love the Salvias... I have 2 current favorites, S. patens blue angel and S. guaranitica black and blue- for you folks in cooler climates, did you know that these can be dug in the fall and their tuberous roots stored, much like dahlia tubers and planted the following year? You get bigger and bigger plant stock every year, without the searching for seedlings from year to year or growing them from seed. I find it to be a great compromise, since nurseries here in maine don't commonly carry these two darlings.
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

March 21, 2007
9:27 AM

Post #3304695

I will remember that next fall! I had a cutting from my 'Black and Blue', but it isn't looking very good...

I wintersowed several types of salvias this year, and I have others that generally come back in the garden (either from their previous roots or from self-sown seed, it's not always clear). Great plants!
mainegrdner
Mariaville, ME
(Zone 5a)

March 21, 2007
9:58 AM

Post #3304768

Critter, I just took mine out of storage (black and blue) and they are sending out shoots. If you find yourself in need of another plant, let me know, I can send you out year-old root stock, as I have just a few too many! Trudy
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

March 21, 2007
10:27 AM

Post #3304869

Trudy, that would be wonderful! I checked my cutting, and it's looking somewhat deceased... and I doubt my original will come back from rootstock despite the mulch on that bed. I'm sure I can come up with something to send you in return, either seeds now or plant starts/divisions later. Do you think the tubers might still travel OK in a BE? Should I Dmail you a list of seeds? LMK if there's anything you're looking for... I will dig through my stash for you!
teacup754
College Station, TX
(Zone 8b)

March 21, 2007
12:03 PM

Post #3305256

I'm going to try Black and Blue in a different location this year. Last year it looked washed out ,then turned completely black and died. In our intense sun I've heard it does better with some shade in the afternoon. I just put out in a small HotLips, Can't wait until it blooms, and my Uliginosa seems to have put out some babies. Henry Duelberg really seems like its location. Lots of babie,This year I'm going to get Mrs Duelberg to plant beside it. nancy
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

March 21, 2007
12:27 PM

Post #3305351

Oh, I'm just charmed by the idea of Mr. & Mrs. Duelberg blooming in your garden! I've seen some stunning pics of 'Hot Lips', too.
Gerris2
Wilmington, DE
(Zone 7a)

March 21, 2007
12:39 PM

Post #3305411

I overwinter my S. guaranitica in the garage directly in the container in which it passed the summer. It lives in the garage with my Brugmansia farm and it too is sending up shoots now telling me it wants to be put outside. I can't do that until Mother's Day!

Joseph
mainegrdner
Mariaville, ME
(Zone 5a)

March 21, 2007
6:49 PM

Post #3306431

critter, sure, d-mail me a list of seeds, might be something I'd like to try! I'll look forward to seeing it! As for travel, include your UPS (physical) address- I have a very nice specimen that I just took to a professional Gardeners' meeting today, it is calling your name, I'll send ASAP, 2nd day air. Trudy

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