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bwilliams
Louisville, KY

October 25, 2005
4:01 AM

Post #1836911

OK well today I was out moving tons of plants indoor for the frost scare. I have about 15 trays of seedling cannas they were to small to put out before the frost so I have left them in trays to overwinter. While picking out the tropicals I noticed this flower about to open. This is the seedlings first flower and from what I know their seems to be nothing like it. It's not what I would call true purple but it has to be the closets thing going so far. It is very dark looking and I have been trying to creat a purple for sometime. Though I have been told many times this is impossible this canna has given me some hope. I figure I am either going to make a purple canna or one so dark that it looks black. From the looks of it I maybe on the right trail?

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dstartz
Deep South Texas, TX
(Zone 9a)

October 25, 2005
5:19 AM

Post #1837053

Please post a picture when it has a full size bloom. I'd love to see it!
rylaff
Niceville, FL
(Zone 8b)

October 25, 2005
2:31 PM

Post #1837514

Oh my gosh. I cant wait to see it. I hope it remains that color. That would be a must have.

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


October 25, 2005
4:58 PM

Post #1837804

Really. A deep purple wine color. A beauty.
vossner
Richmond, TX
(Zone 9a)

October 25, 2005
5:27 PM

Post #1837850

pretty cool
nut4spuds
Wichita, KS

October 25, 2005
6:20 PM

Post #1837963

Ooh, that is gonna be a beauty!
BackyardOasis
Louisville, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 25, 2005
11:27 PM

Post #1838524

hey everyone i was out there today and this is no joke its a beautifull ew canna and i cant wait to owne one.
thanks Brian ill see ya soon
bwilliams
Louisville, KY

October 25, 2005
11:39 PM

Post #1838545

Another picture of the flower more open.

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PerennialGirl
Winnipeg, MB
(Zone 4a)

October 25, 2005
11:43 PM

Post #1838552

Holy Smokes...that is purple to me! It's gorgoeus!!!
:) Donna
LindaSC
Columbia, SC
(Zone 8a)

October 25, 2005
11:56 PM

Post #1838570

Very pretty, good job.
rylaff
Niceville, FL
(Zone 8b)

October 26, 2005
12:42 AM

Post #1838635

Hey , I must have a few of those!!!!!
AnaM149
Casselberry, FL
(Zone 9b)

October 26, 2005
7:09 PM

Post #1840061

Wow! A very pretty wine color. I think the flower is a little small and if there were lots of blooms at one time, it might make up for it. Is there anything striking about the foliage?
bwilliams
Louisville, KY

October 26, 2005
10:26 PM

Post #1840441

Green common foliage. The newest bloom is looking darker. I am sure the blooms will get a big larger as it matures this is a first bloom on a seedling and they commonly produce smaller flowers. The next flower bracket will let me know more about what the adult plant will do.
DanceyTx
Midway, TX
(Zone 8b)

October 27, 2005
1:10 PM

Post #1841488

What a good job bwilliams! That is beautiful. I'll be anxious to see more pics as it opens.
LindaSC
Columbia, SC
(Zone 8a)

October 27, 2005
5:34 PM

Post #1841979

How long does it take a seedling to bloom?
raydio
Bessemer City, NC
(Zone 7b)

October 28, 2005
4:37 AM

Post #1843140

"It is very dark looking and I have been trying to creat a purple for sometime. Though I have been told many times this is impossible this canna has given me some hope."

The color looks quite nice and the bud definitely has purple in it.

I'm thinking that with the "Bio-Tech" industry and genetic engineering and so on, that eventually "they" will be able to splice in color genes that the natural plant line doesn't contain. So, for example, a true blue daylily will hit the market and a true deep purple canna will be seen. All those "impossible" color dreams we have will no longer be impossible dreams.

raydio.
Roselaine
North Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8a)

October 28, 2005
6:25 AM

Post #1843249

I do believe you've hit upon a gold mine!!!!!!!!!!! Elaine
AnaM149
Casselberry, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 1, 2005
1:43 PM

Post #1850848

Brian,

Out of curiosity, what do you use to keep track of your hybridizing? Computer and spreadsheet? Special program? Pen and paper? your mind?

Thanks!
bwilliams
Louisville, KY

November 1, 2005
2:41 PM

Post #1850956

I have several systems. I would love to have it all on a spreadsheet or website were with ID numbers and such. Maybe in the near future? I am working on a new website and will put a lot of time and effort into it. But for now most is in my mind and on paper.

Imoportant hybrids I doubt I could forget if I wanted to. But with many cannas like ones in the field. I put a tag for each one I think is worthy to be propagated and moved up. I usually put something like this one the tag

DL PF ***
which means dark leaf pink flower and the stars are a bit of a rating system. If one gets 5 stars its one I really really liked. One star is interesting but not to power. It may improve in time or be better used in breeding new forms.

With aroids I can usually tell most forms just at looking at them. I consider them children and know most by first and last names :>)

Their are a lot of books out there that many off this list would be very interested in specially on aroids. The aroid society has a great library to order from. The really interesting stuff is in the small books called aroideana also on the site. These are some of the most informative books I have read.

If your like me its hard for people to buy me gifts for christmas. I usually list down some good plant books with author. Its hard for them to get it wrong and I get something I am really interested in besides socks.
bwilliams
Louisville, KY

November 6, 2005
11:14 PM

Post #1860830


OK well I am extremely excited about this plant. I think many of you will really like this one. This maybe the key to a whole new color spectrum in cannas. I hope!


Strange turn in the growth of this odd Canna.

Well the flowers came out and looked like the photos above then as it aged the flowers turned a red to pink color very hard to describe. I was fairly upset with this but then then another flower came out and it was the odd purplish red color. Now the older pinkish red flowers have a purple tint on the edge of the peddles. This is more purple than then the flower first opened. Very interesting. I will soon have pics of both new mid and old flowers all on one plant.

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bwilliams
Louisville, KY

November 6, 2005
11:15 PM

Post #1860832

Here is a closer pic of the peddles. This is a winner already and I am still not sure what its going to do next.

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PerennialGirl
Winnipeg, MB
(Zone 4a)

November 6, 2005
11:17 PM

Post #1860840

It's a beauty!
:) Donna

rose318

rose318
(Patti) in Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

November 6, 2005
11:23 PM

Post #1860850

Beautiful . I would love to have it in my garden.
Patti
LindaSC
Columbia, SC
(Zone 8a)

November 6, 2005
11:50 PM

Post #1860913

A beauty for sure.
bwilliams
Louisville, KY

November 6, 2005
11:57 PM

Post #1860933

Does the last two pics look like purple to you guys? It does to me but maybe I am hoping so hard I am seeing purple??? :>))
vossner
Richmond, TX
(Zone 9a)

November 7, 2005
12:03 AM

Post #1860946

seems like it has evolved into a dark fuschia with a purple edge
SoCal
Huntington Beach, CA
(Zone 10a)

November 7, 2005
12:44 AM

Post #1861016

This is a winner for sure Brian. Finally a canna that's not yellow or orange. lol

Donna
AnaM149
Casselberry, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 7, 2005
12:48 AM

Post #1861035

It definately looks like you have some purple on the edges. Almost a blue red color. The middle has a nice fuschia color to it. This is a very nice flower. I am sure that maybe in a few generations you can come up with a totally purple flower. Who knows, maybe you will cross over into blue??? Then you can start on roses ;^)

It looks like a nice big flower, too. It would almost be luxurious to see a patch of these. Is the plant big as well? Self cleaning? Non seeding? Just curious!

Thanks and great work!
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

November 14, 2005
2:24 PM

Post #1874703

Brian, You've done it again with another canna we all want! The petals on this one are gorgeous, even if you were aiming for a solid purple. The petal rim makes it really exciting!
MerryMary
bwilliams
Louisville, KY

November 14, 2005
6:58 PM

Post #1875185

Thanks for the great responses. This canna has been possibly the oddest canna I have really messed with. The newest flower looks to be a solid dark purple more so than any of the other flowers. I will get a pic as soon as it opens up it looks almost black now.

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