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begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
1:41 AM

Post #1945412

I'm using this as a test to see how the links will work within the sticky. so just never mind me while I'm busy bee-ing here...
oh and be sure to send me any links you feel should be included OR as you find them so that I can amend the list.

Growing supplies
http://www.violetshowcase.com/

http://www.steverd.com/violets/supplies.html

http://www.teasnursery.com/page6.html

[HYPERLINK@www.shop.goosegardens.com]

http://www.indoorgardensupplies.com/

http://www.secretgardenrareplants.com/catalog.cfm?category_id=16

http://www.novoselenterprises.com/default.asp

http://www.bluebirdgreenhouse.com/html/supply01.htm

http://www.africanvioletpots.net/index.htm

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begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
1:42 AM

Post #1945415

Does anyone have an idea for the sticky thread title?

I'm thinking something like

African Violet Care and Other Related Links

any body want to help with the title?
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
1:53 AM

Post #1945424

African violets are Fun to Grow and Share
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
1:53 AM

Post #1945431



This message was edited Dec 29, 2005 10:02 PM
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
1:53 AM

Post #1945432



This message was edited Dec 29, 2005 10:02 PM
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
1:53 AM

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This message was edited Dec 29, 2005 10:03 PM
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
1:55 AM

Post #1945438

Okeedokee, looks like we had a little Dave's Technical Difficulty there.. LOL.
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
2:01 AM

Post #1945446

Oh my and my computer froze up ... sorry how th hek did this happen ?
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
2:14 AM

Post #1945473

mine did the same. looks like maybe there were server issues. I couldnt get to the site at all.
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
2:16 AM

Post #1945477

one thing i figured out is that once posted, i can't edit the title, only the content. (not the photo either)
anyone want to submit a photo to me to show up in the forum titles? (needs to be your own photo due to copyright issues)
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

December 30, 2005
2:55 AM

Post #1945529

I think the sticky title should say Gesneriads, not just AVs - maybe "African Violet and Gesneriad Care and Related Links"
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
5:37 AM

Post #1945657

That sounds good, I'll see if it will fit. I think there is a limit on the # of letters. Should be ok though.
C'mon Key, don't you have a sweet photo for us too!
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

December 30, 2005
6:52 AM

Post #1945687

I'm sorry I haven't chipped in yet with favorite links etc... I'll get to it soon! I do really like the culture pages and step by step lessons at Rob's Violet Barn.

Maybe we could put together a FAQ list, with short answers and/or links to related threads... if there hasn't been a good thread on a FAQ topic, we could just start one and link the sticky to it. I'm assuming I can go ahead and start a FAQ posting here, edit it and add to it when I have a little time, and then if we like it we can copy it to the official sticky thread...

Rob's Violet Barn has a good FAQ topic page, with lots of informative links, http://www.robsviolet.com/faq.htm

FAQs:

Q: Why do my AVs look wilted?
A: Underwatering or overwatering. AVs are a little tricky in that, when they're parched, they droop (like most plants). And when they're overwatered, they also droop! In exactly the same way! So it's important to check the soil of a drooping plant before deciding it needs a good watering. AVs like warm water, and they hate to have any water on their leaves, so watering from the bottom is often recommended.
links to thread about wick watering: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/541027/
link to thread about self watering pots: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/468389/
link to thread about top watering: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/562551/

Q: Should I clean the leaves of my AVs?
A: Yes! Dirt on the leaves can block light and encourage mites. You can use a very soft brush to remove dirt & debris from the leaves. AVs also appreciate being rinsed with a gentle shower of warm water from time, but be certain to thoroughly dry the leaves afterwards, especially the crown. Water droplets on the leaves can produce lighter discolored spots, especially if there is a draft, and water on the crown can lead to crown rot.

Q: What's the best way to pack plants and leaves for shipping?
A: Allison wrote a good summary recently on another thread... perhaps this topic should have its own thread.

Q: Why aren't my AVs blooming?
A: Light, fertilizer, and repotting can all encourage blooming. links to threads:
"Bloom, Darn ya!" http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/561267/
Allison's favorite fertilizer: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/563147/

Q: What's a chimera?
A: link to thread

Q: What's this about trailing African Violets??
A: Many of us first "met" trailing AVs on this forum and became fascinated with them. They are no harder to grown than standard AVs, but there are some useful tips about training and shaping them.
"Advice on trailers from The Violet Gallery" http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/554832/

Q: How can I identify my noid (= no ID) AV?
A: You can't. It is not possible to make a firm identification from photographs or descriptions. There are over 2000 registered varieties, the colors in photos can be inaccurate, and descriptions of colors (especially "blue" or "red") are pretty subjective. Many "supermarket" AVs are grown from seed rather than propagated vegetatively, so they won't have a name. While it can be fun to try to see which variety your AV "looks like," it's a good idea to use terms such as "lookalike" or "noid" on your plant labels when you didn't purchase a plant with a name tag.

Q: Can I really grow a new African violet from a leaf?
A: Yes! It's fun, and it's easy! Rob has a step by step lesson with photos here, http://www.robsviolet.com/violets_by_leaf.htm

Q: What are all these different types of AV foliage and blooms?
A:


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critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

December 30, 2005
6:57 AM

Post #1945688

Here's one of my favorite AV photos, of my "Big Blue" noid -- the biggest, toughest, bloomingest AV I've ever grown!

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critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

December 30, 2005
7:00 AM

Post #1945690

And here's another of my favorite photos... This AV probably had a name, since my MIL bought the original plant at The Violet Carousel in Winston-Salem, NC... but the tag in the pot "didn't look nice," so she threw it out, LOL

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Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
9:27 AM

Post #1945722

I like the second picture best. Their both beautiful !
How about having a little History in Sticky
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

December 30, 2005
10:04 AM

Post #1945736

I love the blue av photo!

most of my pics are of seedlings in various stages of growth or abnormality, but you're welcome to use anything from here. Let me know if you can't download a decent size version - I think they may be retricted by my flickr settings. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ki/sets/99057/
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
1:17 PM

Post #1945848

I'll be out of my playhouse ...er...uh.. office today, but when I get back, I'll put it all together and upload the sticky. Waiting to hear from Terry so I'll likely have an email when I get home.

Going to take all the photos and randomly draw one and use it. I can't decide because I like them all.
Title will by from Keyring because even though this is titled the AV forum, we really discuss gessies in general with an emphasis on AV's. So no fair to leave their kin out and AV's have a lot of kin! (list below) My personal fav kin is Petrocosmea! Drool!

Critter, I'm thinking what I'll do is in the first post, I'll put the links, second post the FAQ, even though there is a link for FAQ. I'll copy directly your post above.

I'm not at all trying to 'bogart' this sticky, just want to make sure we get one, and we will - so says admin. So everyone, on that note PLEASE submit ALL links and FAQ (not already mentioned above) to me today so I can finish up.

I'm Dmailing you each indiv. with my personal email so you can send me the photos. Keyring, couldnt copy from fliker I think there is some kind of restriction, so if you could email me the photo of the AV Neptune's Jewel (single blue shot) OR any other AV you like. I see you have begonias too! We're gonna have to have a talk... You have some real nice ones. And an amazing greenthumb that goes all the way up your arm!!! WOW, i'm green with envy!

Ali, for history, do you mean for av's like the quiz? Just point me to a link and I'll include it. Wikipedia has some good info.

Talk with you all later today,
Laurie

* Achimenes (Cupid's Bower)
* Aeschynanthus
* Agalmyla
* Alloplectus
* Alsobia
* Ancylostemon
* Asteranthera
* Besleria
* Boea
* Briggsia
* Bucinellina
* Capanea
* Chirita
* Chrysothemis
* Codonanthe
* Columnea (Flying Goldfish Plant)
* Conandron
* Corallodiscus
* Cyrtandra
* Diastema
* Drymonia
* Episcia (Flame Violet)
* Eucodonia
* Gesneria
* Gloxinia
* Haberlea
* Isometrum



* Jankaea
* Koellikeria
* Kohleria
* Loxostigma
* Lysionotus
* Mitraria
* Monopyle
* Nautilocalyx
* Nematanthus (Goldfish Plant)
* Neomortonia
* Niphaea
* Opithandra
* Oreocharis
* Paliavana
* Paraboea
* Pentadenia
* Petrocosmea
* Phinaea
* Ramonda
* Saintpaulia (African Violet)
* Sinningia
* Smithiantha (Temple Bells)
* Stauranthera
* Streptocarpus (Cape Primrose)
* Titanotrichum
* Trichantha
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
1:41 PM

Post #1945878

Well I was thinking sense it's an African violet forum and people are scared to grow them to begin with Keep it short and simple. Yes soemthing like the History from your contest quiz. Most people don't know this. Most don't know how there are all these beautiful named African violets.
yes you can have some information about Gessies but I would keep it simple not to scare new people away . How do you feel.
I just mean I guess a short introductory paragraph how African violets are the queens of indoor gardening Kingdom. Their history. Fun and easy to grow making it possible to share and make friends all over the world.
Blah Blah
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

December 30, 2005
3:37 PM

Post #1946027

Can there be a way to edit and expand the FAQ as we go along? I'm assuming that begonia could post the FAQ on the sticky thread and then go back and edit it. Maybe we should start an FAQ thread, and she can paste from it into the sticky post. I do think it's a good idea to have the FAQ as part of the sticky thread, since it's an easy way to put a bunch of links into context.

Should "other gesnariads" have a separate post on the thread with FAQs and links? The AV FAQ is going to get pretty long pretty quickly, even without including Q's about other gessies, and it would make it easier to find information on the others.

I'll try to add some to it, but I don't think I'll have the FAQ "finished" today, LOL, so that's why I was asking about editing.

Can anyone post to a thread once it is a "sticky?" I'm hoping begonia at least will be able to make changes and additions... Even if anyone can post to it, it would probably be less confusing to post additions and links to a thread like this one or the previous one about the AV sticky and have begonia edit and add to the sticky thread... otherwise, it's going to start really rambling (like this post, LOL).
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

December 30, 2005
3:52 PM

Post #1946043

when I was thinking about this earlier, I thought:

- good to tell folks to post comments etc at a different thread (like this one) and link to it - just like the hoya forum, I think it was.

- one sticky thread for links - all gessies - by category

- one sticky thread for AV culture tips/FAQ - definitely a need for new growers

- possibly another sticky for FAQ on other gessies, but links to other sites in the links sticky thread may be sufficient.

My thought was that because culture tips and info on the species have potential for constant updating, better to link to threads and other website for reference. For eg, the reclassification of various gesneriad genera - there are some being rolled out now. This kind of thing is best left to experts and the Gesneriad reference websites that already exist.

On my Neptune pic, I don't recommend using it unless it's going to be as an illustration of what happens when you propagate a fantasy from leaf (instead of a sucker)...
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
4:13 PM

Post #1946071

Keyring which Neptune is it ? I was looking in FC ? Thanks, Allison

Sorry to go off topic
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
8:02 PM

Post #1946374

I think the idea of two stickys is best (taking guidance from Panamoncreel, who manages the Hoya sticky)
1st sticky is AV with the first post having FAQ (which will be a regular work in progress that I have volunteered to manage/edit as needed) and the second posting with the various links we've all come up with. (thanks to all who emailed them to me! not that I don't mind surfing and finding great sites!) The idea being like 'one stop shopping' you can skim the FAQ's (and culture) and then scroll down to view more detailed info and click the links to get there.

2nd thread is all other Gesneriads (categorized if needed) in general with a FAQ as the first post and links in the second 2nd post.

Panamon said if there are too many stickys folks get irritated having to scroll down. So two seem reasonable and if we need a third, well we'll just need a third LOL!

I'm trying to put together something that really works for everyone who uses this site, not just what I feel is my own passion (because it would be filled with begonia links LOL). So with that said, I am very appreciative of all the input, keep it coming. I just want to be the vehicle to get the job done. I'm enjoying it and certainly don't want anyone to feel left out -so if anyone wants to maintain the links, not a problem I can fwd all the info I have accumulated so far.
My fear is stepping on someones toes. So please be sure to give me a heads up (privately if needed) if I'm doing that!

I think within the FAQ, I'll need some more help gathering this info. Because we all know I'm a neophyte with regards to AV's and not the one who should be dispensing the info. LOL . I have several links pointing to sites like the AVS FAQ which may be easier than trying to reinvent the wheel. And then to that we can add our own 2 cents and experiences. We don't really need to rewrite the whole book on AV's just categorize links to send us to the right place when we do have a problem we need to look up -

One more VERY important thing. Sometimes we copy and paste info into our threads from other websites and I've been told not to do that. It is copyright violationand plagiarism and we should actually paste a link to the site/info we want to quote or if/when possible ASK permission from the author/owner before pasting any info or photos into our threads. It's a big no no - so I've been told. (I'm guilty, but won't do it again :-) )

of course if you have permission, just add that info to the thread - something like 'posted here with so and so's permission' from the web site http://www.putthewebsitenamehere or title of the book or magazine - or whatever.

I have a bit more time this afternoon before I have to go pick up my car from the shop so I'll be working on it for a few more hours. I think I'm going to go ahead and post them to get them started, and we'll just keep adding to them as needed. ALSO if after I post it, someone has a recommendation on a better way to organize the links, PLEASE shout out. It is hard to please everyone - as someone mentioned - but I do want to make the links cohesive and easy to use.

THANKS again AV/Gessie friends!!!
Laurie

Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 30, 2005
8:17 PM

Post #1946393

Thank you Begonia I really appreciate out you working on this. I understand it's a lot of hard work and you are giving your all ! I will be happy and know it will be wonderful and helpful to all ! I just like to say Thank You ! Allison
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 30, 2005
9:59 PM

Post #1946548

Okeedokee, the AV sticky is posted. Obviously it's a work in progress but we'll get there from here eventually.

I could really use some help with the Gessie sticky. I don't have nearly as many links or FAQ's to add.

So I'm putting out this plea. If everyone could do a bit of research on their favorite gessie and then pick one from the list above and send me some relevant care and photo links to add that would be SUPER. I love doing the research, but it takes time. If we split up the work load then perhaps I can focus on just doing the HTML and organizing.

If you do decide to do this, please post here which gessie you are researching so we don't double up. i.e. if everyone does episcia's we wont get very far. Once I've posted the links and FAQ's if you see something missing that you know is a great source, then shoot me an email so I can add it.

What does everyone think of this?

Here is what I have so far.

Other Gesneriad Links

Sources & Supplies

Plants (Please Refer to Garden Watchdog for vendor information)
http://www.garys-out-of-africa.com/

Supplies

Episcias

Training and Episcia (Alsobia ‘Cygnet’)
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/556129/

Photo gallery for ID
Episcia A-M
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=8813791&uid=4087658

Episcia M-Z
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=8833060&uid=4087658

http://www.gesneriads.ca/Default.htm
Gesneriad Culture Info (from our own Keyring)
http://kyi.info/gesneriads/

Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

December 30, 2005
10:33 PM

Post #1946590

I really really really think the first three links for gesneriads should be the following.

For basic information on the genera, consult:

The Genera of Gesneriaceae - classification and basic information on each genus
http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/genera_gesneriaceae/

The Gesneriad Reference Web - reference materials, basic information on most genera, and photographs of species
http://gesneriads.ca/

The American Gloxinia & Gesneriad Society, now called the Gesneriad Society - information, sources, photographs, seed fund for members, information on local chapters
http://aggs.org

I think the FAQ part should be limited to the most commonly grown genera - for the others, people can visit other websites. My best guess for the most common:

Streptocarpus - basic care tips
Chirita - basic care tips
Episcia - basic care tips (Rob's has good care info)
Florist's Gloxinia (Sinningia speciosa) - there's a thread here where I explain what it is, and there's another older thread with care tips
Lipstick plant - explaining that this common name is used to refer to Columnea, Aeschynanthus or Nematanthus...

I'll dig around for other links and post here.



This message was edited Dec 30, 2005 7:40 PM
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

December 30, 2005
10:54 PM

Post #1946611

GESNERIADS

Another reference site:
Smithsonian Gesneriaceae Research (World Checklist and Annotated Bibliography)http://persoon.si.edu/Gesneriaceae/

Gesneriphiles mailing list - discussion list among (mostly experienced) growers
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/gesneriphiles

Mauro Peixoto's website - photos of plants in Brazil, including gesneriads:
http://mpeixoto.sites.uol.com.br/menu.html
(btw, he has a section on begonias)


Japanese site with lots of photos (and plant names in English):
http://www.prestige.ne.jp/~poppo-s/

Chinese photo site
http://www.dollyyeh.idv.tw/picture_other.htm

VariegatedStreps Yahoo! Group – discussion of hybridizing for variegated streptocarpus
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VariegatedStreps/



AV

don’t know if you already have this?
AV Diseases from Penn State U – Cooperative Extension, Department of Plant Pathology
http://www.ppath.cas.psu.edu/EXTENSION/PLANT_DISEASE/afviotet.html
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2005
1:49 AM

Post #1946867

Excellent! I'll amend the thread tomorrow.
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 31, 2005
2:22 AM

Post #1946912

Begonia your the Greatest ! Thanks for doing all this ! Question does a sticky stay on top of the threads ? Thanks, Allison
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2005
2:26 AM

Post #1946920

yes, it will eventually get pur there by Terry (admin) - she (or he?) was just waiting for me to make the thread. Should happen in a few days.
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 31, 2005
2:44 AM

Post #1946946

Ok Wonderful ! Thanks !
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2005
4:42 PM

Post #1947565

I made some changes to the sticky.

* Added FAQ what is a sport
*Edited FAQ what is a Chimera
*Edited Sport Registration info and added link

and added an intro paragraph to the FAQ section.

requested that ADMIN add two of Critters' photos to the AV sticky.

Keyring, can you send me some cool Gessie photos for the Gessie sticky? got any cool petrocosmea shots? send anything!
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

December 31, 2005
5:45 PM

Post #1947675

Does anyone have a good photo or a streptocarpus? I can't find one and I don't have any in flower right now.

B - I just sent you a massive email with photos of:

Aeschynanthus longicaulis
Chirita Keiko
Columnea minus
Codonanthe carnosa
Codonanthe devosiana 'Paula'
Chirita sp. USBRG 098-083
Diastema vexans
Kohleria Laura and Flirt
Kohleria Manchu
Sinningia cardinalis
Episcia Silver Dust
Sinninga Purple Crest x self (miniature sinningia)
Sinningia Touch of Spice x self (this is a "Florist's Gloxinia" - a fragrant one)

Pick whichever you like most. I don't have a good one of a petrocosmea either...
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 31, 2005
5:55 PM

Post #1947706

I have pictures of Falling Star, Gloria, Cherry Pie, Daniel, Chritsmas Morning ...oh yes Albosia Cygnte, Blue Heaven, Tri-color, Teddy Bear, Grey Lady, Chocolate Soldier, Aussie's Alice, and my so far favorite Chirita C Sinensis Hisako . I'm not sure how good they are ? Should I email some to Begonia ??
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2005
5:56 PM

Post #1947712

yes, email them to me, when Admin makes our sticky, I'll have them post a photo.
thanks
you have my email so anytime you want to send them along is great. I'll fwd to Terry.
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

December 31, 2005
6:45 PM

Post #1947799

I emailed a few Streps and Chirtias, and epsicas if more needed or you don't want to use them thats fine too.
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2006
3:48 PM

Post #1950649

Does anyone have a list of links or the DG threads where we talked about wicking? I want to make a section in the FAQ/LINK sticky
Thanks!
Lali
Chris_Lorry
Vero Beach, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 2, 2006
3:49 PM

Post #1950652

On the pink Panther.
I have a very nicely growing plantlet.
Are you interested in it Allison?
Or anyone else for that matter :)
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

January 2, 2006
6:43 PM

Post #1951023

Lali I did not find it though I know it's there. Lost of the other links do have sections on wicking.
Sure Lorry that will be nice.
Chris_Lorry
Vero Beach, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 2, 2006
9:06 PM

Post #1951232

Ok I will pop him in the box for you :)
he is only one of two episcia I have had any luck with! LOL though they are the two I got recently and I learned alot since then!
I do LOVE the pink panther and hope you do too.
Do you have tiger stripe? if not I can put a lil plantlet of that in also.
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2006
11:31 PM

Post #1951485

WE HAVE BEEN STUCK! The sticky threads are now in place.
YEA! and THANKS TERRY!
Chris_Lorry
Vero Beach, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 3, 2006
12:18 AM

Post #1951563

wow manchu is GORGEOUS!
if you ever have luck propogating it...please keep me in mind!
http://www.aggs.org/conv2002/almost_live/friday/dsc00240.html
Laura too!
http://www.gesneriasterna.se/bilder/Kohleria-Laura.jpg

and this!
Diastema vexans
http://www.gesneriads.ca/diaste12.htm

I would also be interested in your Ep silver dust!
Chris_Lorry
Vero Beach, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 3, 2006
12:22 AM

Post #1951572

I have chirita Tamania to trade...an extra plantlet...I also have tiger stripe, pink panther and strawberry path *not field* LOL I need to look at my tags more often.
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

January 3, 2006
1:15 AM

Post #1951689

Thanks Lali for all your hard work putting the stickies together for us !! Thanks Terry also :))
Now will someone please tell me why I can't type on the forum ???? I have to type on my email and copy and paste it over here ?? I know it's not my computer I can type on any other program ?? Help Please
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 3, 2006
3:20 AM

Post #1951960

That happened to me also, in fact I couldn't even load the 'bargain violet' thread. I cleared my cache for the Firefox program, quit it and then restarted, problem solved.

I'm a Mac gal though so not sure if the same would help you.
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

January 3, 2006
2:29 PM

Post #1952419

It's working OK for me, so it may be something with your computer like begonia had, but it's probably not the DG server (unless it was cleared up just now).

A BIG THANK YOU to begonia for putting together our AV sticky and making it happen! I'll try to expand that FAQ a little this week and Dmail you some additions... I think we've covered lots of the questions that get asked often, but we should probably add something about trading on the forum, with a link to the Trade Primer here at DG and to packing/shipping information.
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 3, 2006
2:52 PM

Post #1952446

one think we could do to is scroll throught the past threads to see what are the common questions. I'm still working on the Gessie sticky links, it's pretty skimpy so far so I'll take a look through the DG archives for more on that.

I have to take Amber (Princess Amber) to the vet for a long overdue dental. She came to us with bad teeth due to neglect so she needs it done. It's not cheap, $350. We only have one vet (that I trust) in our town and he's a gem. Makes house calls too!

so i'll be back to end up the contest a bit later.
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 8, 2006
6:47 AM

Post #1961689

Please dmail me when ever you all have additions to the sticky.

Could use some more authoring of FAQ so if you think of any, send them along. I'll try to work on the Gessie sticky ASAP to get 'er up and running, I wanted to work on it this morning, but took advantage of the (rare) sunshine today to kayak a local estuary for about 5 hours. My arms have not forgiven me just yet. But I'll be better at typing tomorrow after I give them a rest.

I have a lot of info, just need to organize it. Hoping for more input as I know even less about other Gessies as I do AV's (help!!)
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 8, 2006
1:06 PM

Post #1961838

hi - I'm completely swamped at work and have only enough time to drop in for a couple of mins at a time.

As I mentioned before, the posts by More Water at http://www.flickr.com/groups/gesneriads/ are by me, so feel free to lift whatever you want. It's just propagation and links though.

If you want to post a draft of what you have here, I might be able to take a look and make suggestions/additions.

thanks for doing the stickys!
PanamonCreel
Celaya
Mexico
(Zone 10a)


January 13, 2006
7:57 PM

Post #1974037

Btw
Nice job with the "stickies" Laurie :)

begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 13, 2006
8:07 PM

Post #1974058

Thanks!! Still have work to do, but we'll get there!
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 14, 2006
9:50 PM

Post #1976624

I've updated the sticky's for the week. New links include lots on Streps (Thanks Ali!) and some new AV propagation and vendors.
Enjoy!
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 18, 2006
4:12 AM

Post #1984255

wow, thanks for putting the stickys together. lots of work went into them both - thanks!!

on the gesneriad one, could you add comments next to theses two sites:

HYPERLINK@www.botanik.univie.ac.at] - taxonomy
[HYPERLINK@persoon.si.edu] - world checklist of species

both are dry academic sites but the best there are.

thanks :-)
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 18, 2006
6:15 PM

Post #1985197

both of those links are not working. Can you email them to me?
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 19, 2006
1:02 AM

Post #1985794

Hi All, the gessie sticky has been updated, fixed the links above, added the new sinningia thread started by Keyring and added two new vendors, listed in that thread.
Check out YuccaDo they have some beautiful sinningias, (and a begonia too! hee hee hee!)
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

January 19, 2006
1:05 AM

Post #1985799

Thanks Laurie ! Your a gem :))
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 19, 2006
11:58 PM

Post #1987653

thanks :-)

I think you can delete the sections for Leaf Types, Leaf Problems, and Flower Problems from the Gesneriad sticky. Not possible to generalize for all gessies.

Also deletable: Software (none that I'm aware of) and History and Taxonomy (the taxonomy links are the ones you just updated and have listed under "other").

And I just heard about another taxonomy/academic/culture resource. The Smithsonian
Contributions to Botany series is now available on the web. http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/Botany/index.cfm
There are three on Gesneria, Kohleria, and Pearcea. Search for the author Skog.

begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 20, 2006
12:03 AM

Post #1987663

I think FC has a section for gessie, but since I can't run it on my Mac I only just recall reading this here. I'll update tomorrow or the next day, have to make the crew some dinner now so I'll try asap. Thanks for checking it out!

BTW do you have an episcia name Unpredicable Valley?
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 20, 2006
12:13 AM

Post #1987683

hey, whenever you have the time.

I don't have unpredictable valley but I thought someone here did - either UV or U Helen. I hear the markings on both are... unpredictable...
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2006
12:25 AM

Post #1987699

I've got 'Unpredictable Valley' (thanks, Sarah!), and it is still clinging to life but hasn't grown much... So I can't comment on the unpredictable markings on the foliage, as I'm not sure mine has grown any new leaves! :-(

It's in a little terrarium jar, gets plenty of bright light in the morning room, and is watered occasionally with a little AV fertilizer (very occasionally, as it stays pretty moist in the jar. I'm not sure what would make it happier. ?
Keyring
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7b)

January 20, 2006
12:43 AM

Post #1987725

I had a similar one and it liked more light than pretty much any gesneriad I have. It also liked warm, yes, very warm...
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 24, 2006
3:12 PM

Post #1997131

Spent the last three hours working on our AV sticky. You will see significant upgrades.
Each link has a description now and I've added over a dozen new links.

Thanks Bob for the heads up on descriptions after each link. I hope this helps everyone weed through all the info quickly and easily. As always, please send me suggestions, links, broken links, chocolate etc to my Dmail (just kidding on the chocolate, seeing if you all were paying attention hee hee hee). THATS THE BEST way for me to keep on top rather than trying to find suggestions via the threads.

Next, I'll do the same for our Gessie sticky, but have to go have some coffee now...
Good morning everyone!!
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 24, 2006
3:14 PM

Post #1997139

p.s. When ever you see this thread up at the top, It will mean that I've updated the sticky. I'll try to stay on top of this so that you will all know when to look for new links etc.

I'm trying to divise a way to put a 'NEW' symbol next to new links or updates to make it easy to find the new stuff. Just haven't figured it out yet.
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2006
3:20 PM

Post #1997153

THANK YOU, Lali!
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 24, 2006
3:25 PM

Post #1997166

it's my pleasure.
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

January 24, 2006
5:13 PM

Post #1997335

THANK YOU:)) Hope your feeling better today :))
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 30, 2006
5:12 PM

Post #2010708

Both AV and Gessie Sticky's have been updated today. New links were added. So go check them out!
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

January 30, 2006
7:28 PM

Post #2010878

wow Laurie ! Your the greatest ! Thank you. I just love our stickys and I use them everyday !
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

February 4, 2006
6:46 PM

Post #2022399

Bumping so y'all know that I updated the AV sticky. Added a few links on making seed packets and updated a vendor not being in biz at the moment. (goose gardens)
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

February 4, 2006
7:44 PM

Post #2022513

Thank you Laurie !
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 19, 2006
1:04 AM

Post #2121977

Bumpity Bump Bump.

Sticky's were updated today. Both have new links and I fixed broken links in the Gessie sticky.
just a FYI.

enjoy.

Be sure to send me links you want included in the sticky thread.
( I have a few more to add, and may get to them today if I can ever stop chatting)
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

March 19, 2006
1:07 AM

Post #2121987

THanks Laurie your the greatest !
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 20, 2006
6:06 PM

Post #2125693

bumping again because I just realized that our sticky didn't have Ali's thread on Girl leaves in the FAQ area, and it's a question that comes up often enough that it should have been there! C'mon guys whip me with a wet noodle when I leave stuff out like that! LOL

Stickies have been updated!
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 23, 2006
5:28 PM

Post #2133470

Bumpity bump

added this link to the gessie sticky, http://www.gloxiniane.com/index.html

thanks for sending it Key!
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

March 23, 2006
6:11 PM

Post #2133574

Thank you Laurie ! Thank you Key!
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 18, 2006
3:16 PM

Post #2199835

Bumpity Bumping this to let you all know there are new links in the sticky.

Added are;

Russian Varieties list from the AVSA
Pinellas Photo Album links

there might be one more that I added last week, but can't remember

Thanks Ali for the links
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2006
3:54 PM

Post #2199942

Thank you !
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 18, 2006
3:54 PM

Post #2199944

bump bump again, I updated the Gessie sticky too.
added this link and a few others

http://www.lapshin.org/episcia/moscow.htm
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2006
4:12 PM

Post #2199996

Nice ! Thank you ! I use my Stickys everyday ! Just like i do my FC !
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 18, 2006
4:15 PM

Post #2200013

GUESS WHAT! I might be able to get FC. DH has an old laptop that has a broken keyboard. I'm taking it in to see how much to fix it. If it's reasonable, I'll have it repaired so I can use it for FC. WOO HOO!
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2006
4:38 PM

Post #2200075

That's really good news ! Laurie ! Oh Thanks for your box :)) Sorry I'm always half out of it. lol Your a good Peep !
Spider07
Lilburn, GA

April 18, 2006
4:39 PM

Post #2200076

thank you Laurie!

off to check it!!!
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 27, 2006
7:50 PM

Post #2227475

Bumpity Bumping this to let you all know there is a new link in the sticky.

updated with a link to Canadian Hybrids and Hybrizers (pdf file), thanks for the link Ali!

begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 27, 2006
8:01 PM

Post #2227511

also added to the gessie sticky some nice eye candy

http://www3.telus.net/vavgs/pictures.html (The Vancouver African Violet and Gesneriad Society plant show photos)
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

April 28, 2006
1:04 AM

Post #2228202

Thank you Laurie ! And Thank you Joanne for giving me the link again. My favorites is too full to find anything. lol
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 30, 2006
3:46 PM

Post #2235374

bumping, updated AV sticky with http://www.bloomlovers.com link
thanks Ali!
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)

April 30, 2006
3:51 PM

Post #2235388

Thanks Laurie !
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

May 24, 2006
3:32 PM

Post #2312678

Bumpity Bump. Added Bloom Basket info to the sticky.
nannanavarro
Silver Spring, MD

May 25, 2006
2:08 AM

Post #2314495

You're wonderful
begoniacrazii
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9a)

May 25, 2006
2:17 PM

Post #2315950

aw shucks, it was nuthin'
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

April 11, 2011
3:40 PM

Post #8488375

Alan LaVergne's website Sinningia & friends:

http://www.burwur.net/sinns/sinns.htm

Ron Myhr's Gesneriad Reference Web:

http://gesneriads.ca/

Mauro Peixoto's amazing photo site with lots of photos of Gesneriads in habitat

http://www.brazilplants.com/gesneriaceae/gesnerihome.html

Anton Weber & Laurence E. Skog's: The Genera of Gesneriaceae

http://www.genera-gesneriaceae.at/

The website of The American Gesneriad Society (membership is $25/year):

http://www.gesneriadsociety.org/

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