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ladyannne
Merced, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 18, 2006
12:50 AM

Post #1983902

I am not sure I have the correct terminology here, cocoon? Larvae? I found this in the compost tonight. It's soft (opposed to rigid/dead) and almost two inches long. One healthy sized puppy. Might anyone know:
1. What this is, or will be?
2. Bad guy or good guy?
3. If its a good guy, put him back outside in soft dirt?
Thank youuu!!!

Oh, we are in Merced, CA, zone 9, if that helps.

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Todd_Boland
St. John's, NL
(Zone 5b)



January 18, 2006
1:04 AM

Post #1983929

It is the pupa of a moth, more than likely a noctuid moth, the brownish-grey ones that often buzz around the back door light. Their larvae are cutworms...nasty.
NematanthusNut
Mandeville, LA
(Zone 9a)

January 18, 2006
1:09 AM

Post #1983941

I'm certainly no expert but I'll bet it's some type of moth pupae. If you google for images using the search phrase "moth pupae" you will get a lot of very similar pictures.

TomH3787
Raleigh, NC
(Zone 7b)

January 18, 2006
1:15 AM

Post #1983954

Looks like sphinx moth (hawkmoth) pupae, especially if they're 2 inches long. Good or bad depends on your point of view. It could be tomato hornworms or it could be another type of sphinx moth.

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rose318
(Patti) in Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 18, 2006
1:18 AM

Post #1983956

I learned somthing new today. Thanks,
Patti
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

January 18, 2006
1:43 AM

Post #1983995

Wow! Thanks for the post and the answers. I learned something new, too. I'm glad I've been smashing their bodies all the while. We don't need more cutworms.
Pixydish
Lakewood, WA
(Zone 8a)

January 18, 2006
7:52 AM

Post #1984370

I'm learning, too! Now I know I can kill them and know what I'm doing, except if they are large enough to be a sphinx moth, I would certainly protect it! They are just beautiful! I found the caterpillar to one last year on some Gaura. I was so excited I wanted to protect the thing so I brought it inside in a jar with the plant inside. It did well, but I felt bad for it being inside and didn't want to risk losing it, so I put it back on the gaura plant. The next day it was gone. Probably something ate it. I felt terrible because it was the coolest thing I've ever seen in my garden. I had named it 'Wormy'. I get teary eyed just remembering how I loved that caterpillar. And I've never even seen another one. Rats.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

January 18, 2006
11:51 AM

Post #1984505

Now I'm feeling so guilty. If they're cutworms I don't want them but if they're beautiful moths I would. How do I decide?

trackinsand

trackinsand
mid central, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 18, 2006
2:11 PM

Post #1984736

pirl, would you cry more over the dead moth or the dead flowers? LOL
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

January 18, 2006
2:15 PM

Post #1984744

We find those in the garden sometimes. I took 5 into the garage and put them in a pot of dirt. They hatched and were sphinx moths, black with pink on the wings, big as bats but pretty!
ladyannne
Merced, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 18, 2006
2:32 PM

Post #1984781

Thank you guys, ever so much. I looked up Hawk moth and sure enough. Guess he's bound for de dump de dump. (Can't squish it, nope) We have had a few Hummingbird moths before, wonder what their pupae (thank you, Todd and Tom!) looks like, off too Google land.
Pixydish
Lakewood, WA
(Zone 8a)

January 18, 2006
4:39 PM

Post #1985022

Remember, size is everything in moth pupae land! LOL The little 1 inch ones cannot be sphinx moths. They have to be big enough to qualify for that. I've never seen a big one in my garden. Just Wormy. But I am glad to know that these moths have a chrysalis that I would not see hanging from a stem. Maybe he lived afterall.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

January 18, 2006
4:46 PM

Post #1985038

trackinsand: "Dead on target"

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