Great looking plants! I love the color of your marmalade. It looks great with the circle of friends statue on the terra cotta pot.
I don't think I have any photos from last year. Most of mine were just planted last year and didn't make picture worthy. They spent the remainder of the summer settling in and hopefully growing lots of roots.
I can't wait for spring to come and they all start waking up. I'll definitely get pictures then.
Gorgeous! If you haven't already, will you submit them to plantfiles? They are really great photos, all of them.
I'm adding Midnight Burgundy to my shopping list. I have Midnight Claret, and I think Midnight Burgundy is a more vigerous form of Midnight Claret. My Midnight Claret is doing well, and it's beautiful! So, Midnight Burdundy should be even better. :)
I only have tried a few of these beauties...however they all seem to die out after a year or so. Any ideas on what I may be doing wrong? i plant in shaded situation and try to give them well drained area.
Actually, I don't think it gets a lot of sun at all.
It's pretty close to the back of that bed and the trees and house keep any direct sun blocked. Does the silver veining show up with a lot of sun?
woodthrush, is it possible some of your tags might have got mixed up? The photo you posted of 'Heronswood Mist' actually looks like Tolmiea menziesii, common name 'Piggyback Plant' http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1664/index.html. 'Heronswood Mist' has green and white variegated foliage with a hint of pink in spring http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/77435/.
Also, I believe your photo of 'Neon Lights' looks more like x Heucherella 'Sunspot' http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/58063/index.html. 'Neon Lights' has a leaf with a dark center and deep green almost glossy foliage http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/82866/index.html
I got my list. looks like it is going to be close to mid april before I can work get them. I think friday are monday am going to go pick up a 1/2 ton of top soil to mix in with the chicken compost and other stuff in the new bed. There is a sheet of dolmite stone about a ft below the orginal surface over there. I guess with all my compost and top soil it is going to be about 2 ft deep in places. also heavy mostly shade. Heuchera should work over there. I am also going to get some Brunnera this year. This bed will be against the house. on a stone path we built last year. don't tell me to remove the stone. that rock is about 50 ft wide and that long. god only knows how deep. My house's foundation rest on it.
The heronswoods came from Primrose Path. It won't survive outside if it's a piggyback plant, so I'll know for sure in the spring. There are several tiarella's that have the red like Sunspot and Spotlight. They aren't planted close together at all, so if tagged wrong, they came from the different nurseries. Maybe sun exposure has to do with it? My yard is very shaded.
Pam, it's possible the shade has something to do with it. Although, we have our 'Neon Lights' in a shady location also and even in the early spring, I've never seen it with even a hint of red. That's one of the things I've always liked about this Tiarella is the almost black centers. What time of year was your photo taken?
I can verify that Tiarellas have an eversion to sun around here. I am itchiong to go get that dirt but it really is to cold to work out there. Suppose to be about 12-14 hundred puond a scoop. Good load for my little pickup even with overload springs on it.
Well, I have been thinking about it and now I am wondering if the ones I have that all look so similiar are the ones from that awful coop last summer. I wonder after all the problems, if I received mislabeled plants too. Once spring comes, I'll have to verify the markings on each of them.
Wood thrush I just am really starting this year with Huechera. We have six types now. but i bet by the fall we willk have between 25 and 20. I also want some Brunnera. We are on the locale Garden tour this year and have a new bed to fill in. I do not have a lot of room. just a lot about 1/2 acre.
I probably have 30-35 heuchera and maybe 10 tiarellas. I've been collecting for about 5 fives. Every year, I do lose one or two from winterkill. Amber Waves just will not survive our winters. I'm hoping last year's lighter leaved varieties will do better than AW over the winter.
I have been in drought for 5 years. I have been watering when i get a chance all winter. I have never lost a heuchera and only one hosta out of the 136 I have. I been lucky so far. this year is the worst yet. The amber waves looks real good though.
All this talk about Heuchera and Friends is wonderful. What a delightful way to look forward to spring. I only have a few, 'Snow Angel', an oldie from a neighbor, and 'Purple Palace' but I'm trading daylilies and hosta for a few more this spring. I love reading all the entries!
Pirl I hate Purple Palace. We got several. They get shaggy. I did something this fall I never heard of before. I took a pair of hedge shears and chopped them down to almost nubs. I want to see if i can get some form out of them. everyone thought i killed them(that was my subconsious intention I think) but they have spouted leaves all winter. As i understand it snow angel is a very good plant it is not as stangly and it is one of the few white varigated that will grow well. I wanteed a monet. Nursury here told me he would not carry them because of all the problems they have with them dying. He said they only make food with green color and not white and that Monet literly starves to death a lot of the time.
Chopping it down will probably give you a plant with multiple crowns.
That's what happens when the occasional deer gets in my yard. The eat the center young leaves on the heuchera. I'm not crazy about Palace Purple either. Probably because you just see it everywhere.
I did have Amber Waves winter for me here,,,however I did lose my Marmalade and my Monet is Just hanging on. I will try another Marmalade though. I have a friend that has it too,,I'll have to check with her to see if her Marmalade came back,,,I do believe her Amber Waves came back also.
Although I know zones don't mean that much,,,it's the weather in each part of the same zone,,,
Mine do well and all have multiple crowns. I do cut off an occasional sun weary leaf but I'd like to divide them and put some with my very lightly shaded orange daylilies - not ditch daylilies, but our own hybrids.
Here the 'Snow Angel' is quite appreciative of afternoon shade. I have to move them this spring.
I also have 'Bridesmaid' and it does well in the sunny courtyard.
No, no dog. We've had a fence up about 6 years now. I read an article in one of the gardening magazines that deer follow the same paths when browsing. If you can break them of that, put obstacles (fencing) in their way, they will usually walk around it rather than jump it. The first year we had the fence up, a few jumped it, but mostly now, it's just a curious little one that will go under the fence. It's just chicken wire fencing that we use too. Five foot high. Saw 7 deer tonight walking through the neighbors back yard. We do have trouble keeping the deer out of the front yard though. We have two driveway entrances, and it's just impossible to close them off.
Pam - we also have an "Exit" and "Entrance" on our driveway, which is only a foot more narrow than our local roads. So we have the same problem and the deer are around because the Lhasa wakes us up with his warning barks around 3 and 4 AM.
Two friends have put up the 8 foot black mesh fencing but my feeling is they'd get trapped in your yard or mine because they still have to leave, eventually, through the driveway. They've already killed one of our dogs so I'll use Liquid Fence, Deer Scram, etc.
Yes, they have been trapped in the front yard and they can jump the fence if they need too. Our whole piece of property is bordered with the fence. Then we have gates to the entrance of the back yard. That's where most of the plants are. We've tried all the sprays, but that still leaves the deer imprinted with finding food in your yard. If the spray is on one plant and not another, then they still find food and will return again and again. If you can break them of following the path to your yard, they will follow a new path. Here, they come out of the woods at almost the same spot every day, walk the same path through the neighbors yard, every day, and go back into the woods at the same point.
According to our radio gardening guru, Ralph Snodsmith, you have to apply your control BEFORE they begin their "winter grazing habits". Once established it's useless to try and stop them until the following November/December.
Pril November is the rutt. I have only seen one agressive deer and that was a 8point buck in the rutt. I live on a long point that goes out into the lake. it is large enough that there are homes and lots on eachg side of it. They are not to thrilled about running around down here. I think it is because they might feel trapped a bit. We have several neighbors with dogs. I think that has something to do with it. My little dog grows hiar like crazy and I groom her about one time a month. Always do it in the yard. And like I say tinkel tinkle out there they do not like either. I know something else that the goverment uses as a repelant. you mix about 2 are 3 eggs up in a galolong of water and spray itv on plants. The egg rots and they can smell it even though you cannot and they do not like it a bit. I am more concerned about deer in the spring than the fall. We had a lady here a few years back almost killed by a doe that had a fawn. This woman had been feeding the mother for a year are better. She went out there to feed her one morning and never seen the fawn and the mother reared up and stomped her into disfigurement. Last spring I seen a mother and fawn about 1 day old crossing the road. She seen me coming and gave the sign and that fawn dropped to the road bed. I stopped and sat there about 10 minutes waiting for her to give the fawn the go ahead to get up. She would not do it, and since the road does have light traffic I finally decided to get the fawn off the road. I could see the doe about 30 ft back in the woods. I picked that little devil up and took him to the edge of the woods and turned him loose. But I am going ot tell you, I was scared the whole time. If she would have charged me I do not think I would have gotten back to the truck.
Sorry to spoil the fun, but we had a complaint about the thread getting off-color, and after reading through the most-recent dozen-plus posts, I had to agree. I think I sent a note of explanation to everyone who had one or more posts removed; if I missed someone., I'm sorry - but now you know why your post disappeared along with the others.
I now return you to your "regularly scheduled programming"...which was Heucheras, I think ;o)
Terry, thank you! I was beginning to wonder where this thread was going - LOL!
woodthrush, don't you just love 'Running Tapestry'? This particular Tiarella is a from the T. cordifolia strain which means it travels (i.e. spreads), but that's one of the things I love about it. Plus the dark variegated foliage with a smaller, more round leaf is especially nice combined with all the varieties.
And 'Beauty Color'! What can I say? We've had 'Ring of Fire' before, but this one really shines in the garden. The first year we planted it out it was particularly spectacular, with a bright pink margin in early spring. You definitely have some wonderful plants!
Geez, every time that red 'Alert' pops up, letting me know someone has posted while I'm busy typing - scares the heck out of me! But now I realize while I was busy typing that the 'Beauty Color' is yours, Susan :) Serves me right for checking out the forums at the end of the day instead of early morning when I'm usually sharper :)
woodthrush - that's a nice pic of Tiarella Running Tapestry. Do you have Tiarella cordifolia too? It's a fast spreader, but I love it. I think the Tiarellla Running Tapestry has cordifolia in its parentage so I was wondering if it was as much of a spreader as cordifolia is.
Where do most of you purchase your Heucheras and Heucherellas. I don't have too many and want to get a few more this spring. I do have a really pretty pink Heucherella in my woodland garden but forgot when it was light to go look at the tag.
Rutholive If you have a good nursury in your state. And I know you do go buy from them. I believe in buying only what I can see. There are several big growers in your area. I think that there is a lot of on line promotion on here. I feel better with a plant that has been grown locally in my zone. Plants on the internet might be cheaper but buy the time you pay all the shipping etc I do not think you save much if anything.
lol - Badmartha- guess we should have hung a warning sign on this thread.
Sanannie, no, I don't have t. cordifolia. I'll have to look for it.
Rutholive - my two favorite places for buying heuchera have stopped shipping. Primrose Path has gone wholesale only selling by the tray like Terra Nova. My other favorite was Robyns Nest and they have stopped shipping too. Shipping rates on plants have just gone too high. I don't know if I'll buy a lot of mail order this year.
Donna, you can go to Terra Nova's website and they have a list of retail nurseries who carry their plants. http://terranovanurseries.com/pages/retailusacanada.html#mailorder. Something must be wrong with their website right now because even though you can get to that link, it won't list all the nurseries. You could probable email them and ask for a list of nurseries in your state. With your location in Washington, there HAS to be someone near you who carries their plants.
There does not have to be a nursury close to her she likes. I been to Wash state it is not Virginia. I bet she is far out. It is not hard to do in the west. I do not have a real good nursury within 100 miles of me and I am right in a resort area in central missouri. The reason I said that donna about a place close I figured you were close to Seattle. I looked at the map and your way out there. I can see why you have to rely on mail order. I hesitate to recommend anything on line. Only thing I have bought on line came from Naylor. Most places will do a job on you with shipping charges.I seen one last week i had a order set up for $57 and the shipping was $22.
I wish Terra Nova sold retail too. I also depend on mail order for the majority of my plants. I have a few local greenhouses around here, but they are mostly the common things, and only one or two different cultivars of each.
I use plantscout a lot to find things. Type in the plant I'm looking for, and choose where to order from there.
ozarkian, look at your map - not all of Virginia is a 'metropolis' :) Our neck of the woods in Virginia doesn't have a darned thing that's closer than a good 2 hour drive. Sure, we're only an hour from Roanoke, an hour from Charlottesville, but neither one is an easy drive for us - either we have to travel up over the Blue Ridge Mountains or fight the horrid tractor trailers on I-81.
In defense of mail order shipping charges, UPS and FedEx rates have continued to increase over the past few years - all you have to do is look at the gas prices and realize something had to change. UPS alone has had two rate changes in just the past year! In addition, they started charging the retail establishments an additional $2.00+ to deliver to a residential address versus a business address. One thing most people don't realize is that if they order just one plant the shipping charges would be the same as if they ordered three plants because of across-the-board "base rates". However, I "hear you" - some companies do take advantage and charge far more than is necessary to cover their expense. Most of the time my feeling is that if you figure in the cost of actually finding a nursery that sells the plant you want (i.e. gas for traveling to that nursery), it's usually cheaper to order it via mail order. Think of the time you save travelling - which allows you to spend more time in your gardens!
I "was" going to order four coleus the other day. Came to $27. for the four plants then another $22.00 for shipping. No way! I cancelled.
Four plants can easily fit in the flat rate Priority box for $8.00 I've even been checking the seed catalogs lately. If they charge too much for shipping like $4.00 for an envelope of seeds, I'm looking elsewhere.
You can mail a lot of seeds for a buck.
I know woodthrush: I guess there are a few nice palces on the internet and i understand their cost angle. but it is not in line with some of the things i have had to order on line. I recently had 32 lb shipped from Ariz and they only charged me 11 bucks shipping. I do not understand that.
I like to buy locale for the same reason I like to buy American. I live here and want to support my community. I just do not trust buying something I do not see.
RCN I understand the problems with trucks. But that is how it is. I drive from here to central Ohio a couple times a year on I-70. When I go to either St Louis are Kansas city I go along I-70. I am aware of all the games they play like blocking in traffic the way they do that in the east is beyond belief. I do not like it either, but I know they catch a lot of flack also. I just ignore it as best I can. It is much easier on the heart.
Donna is it possible for you to take a couple of days off in the spring and kind of take a mini vacation to just buy plants. I think that is what Kittymom does about every year. For me it is 200 miles to St louis and 100 to Kansas City. I can make either in a one day run if we get started real early. You Know Naylor is in Chimacum Washington. No idea where that is. They sell stuff beside Hosta but I though but I am not sure what. Very nice people.
ozarkian, Chimacum is about 7 hours from here plus an expensive ferry. Herronswood is a little farther, and can get there without the ferry. There are two or three good nurseries about 6 or 7 hours away . I have been to Molbaks about 6 or so hours, so only get there about once a year.
There are lots of nurseries in Oregon, but most are 9 or 10 hours or farther, so that is why I shop by mail. For annuals and some perennials, but not shrubs or trees, there are a couple of nurseries not quite 2 hours away. But for shrubs or trees, which are of course more costly to ship, I don't know of a good nursery. There was a good one about an hour away and I bought quite a few trees before they went out of business..
Well anyway since I was diagnosed with angina last summer I have been trying not to buy more plants, just take better care of what I have!!!!!!!!!!!
ozarkian, Yes I agree about this great area, I have lived here all my long life. Have also been to all but three of our 50 states, S. America and Europe, Still prefer this area.
You also take care of yourself.
Shirley, thanks for the posting your unique photos - now I'm going to have pay closer attention to mine this spring!
Kelly, could it have been 'Marmalade'? In early spring I thought Marmalade and Amber Waves were similar - not so - by summer Marmalade showed herself to be much prettier and the one thing I love is how the leaves almost curl up to show the deep "pink" (?) undersides.
Edited: guess it wasn't Marmalade - just scrolled back up and saw your post about losing yours :(
I don't have any pictures, but if my memory serves me right - Peach Melba was also similar with the darker undersides - although not as "ruffled" as Marmalade.
I will definitely let you know,,,it may be spring,,,I may have to go out and look at them to remember,,,LOL
Glad you found it,,,was wondering when you would be popping in,,,LOL
My Amber Waves gets more color to it as the summer progresses,,,I am really bummed about the Marmalade,,,it was doing really well, and then, there it was,,,gone. Will maybe replace it this year and try again.
I apologize, the picture posted is not a true representation of the color 'Amber Waves'. These plants were grown under shade cloth and did not have the benefit of true sun/shade conditions. I was really trying to point out the 'ruffling' of the 'Marmalade' leaves and the undersides of the leaves which I think are more attractive than 'Amber Waves'.
On another note, I happened to be outside yesterday checking our Heucheras and found that the huge mole problem we have has spread to our Heuchera gardens :( They tunnel through our gardens and leave the plants "suspended" and we end up having to stomp around the plant. Hopefully we won't have to replant each and every one of them!
Loretta I bet you will this year. I would call around and ask them. Heuchera are going to come on real strong I believe this year because the word is out on them.
Kelly the people that own the summer home a cuople of houses down called and she found both Peachy Keen And Persain Carpet for me in Kansas City. They are suppose to have them on the shelf about the 15th of this month. Cost me $8 each in gal containers. All the other 11 Heuchera and Heucherella on my list are in gal containers and I will pick them up at the nursury in St louis about 1 april. They will be $11 apiece. Unless I find them all in Kansas City. I still feel if you can drive to a large city your better of buying local. You cannot match the deals I have on these Heuchera and Heucherella.
Loretta, I received the majority of Heucheras from DG...when we use to have co-ops! :~(
A big grower of new forms of Heuchera is Terra Nova Nurseries, which is a wholesaler. They only sell to the trade. However, Terra Nova does have suggested retail nurseries listed on their website by state. Here is a link to look up where to buy Heucheras in your area. http://www.terranovanurseries.com/pages/retailusacanada.html#md
I sure would think tulsa has something. There is a giant nursery out in Okla somewhere. The guy i bought the the turkey compost shipped tons and tons of that stuff out there. He only said they were a nursery grower.
Springfield does not have much I just checked it out. I do not thin k i will go. I am going to tear out some over grown Yews.
I looked Nurseries in Springfield Mo on the internet search engine. It usually sends you to a yellow pages page. You might find some individual listings. I am going to try it myself now.
Try www.whowhere.com You can search the yellow pages there. You can search for Nursery's or Greenhouses or Landscape Centers,,,anything you think someone might list their business under. There are other ones,,,that's just the one I usually use.
Kelly,,,whining and stomping foot,,,*I wanna see my Heucheras*
Does anyone grow Stoplight? Is it a carmel color this time of the year? I did buy one the nursery said it was the correct plant. I have been watching for it and was traveling in TN.
I hope it looks better later on.
Anyone interested in a Co-op of these plants? I would be.
Teresa, I bought Stoplight last year. It was yellow and red and stayed that way through the fall. In winter it turned scrumptious shades of salmon pink and looked lovely until a few weeks ago. We had weeks of lows in the teens or lower and I think that is what put it over the edge. Now it is blah tan/brown but I am sure the new growth will be the correct color. I would buy it just for the winter coloring. It was so nice to see something pretty every day during the dreary winter months.
I would definitely be interested in participating in a co-op. :-)
Wow, this is an old thread. Hi Christabelle and thanks. How many varieties do you grow? Do you have a favourite? I don't think I could pick just one, but all the newer ones I've purchased in the last few years are my favs. They keep improving them it seems.
You asked about pics of my heucheras in the garden... well I've got a fairly recent thread over on Hostas forum that shows quite a few heuchera in amongst the hosta if you want to take a gander, it's here: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/751356/