We are looking for a 10 x 14 storage shed. Anyone have experience with putting together Arrow sheds? Any other sheds? As in: were all the parts there? were the instructions easy to follow? did the steps in the instructions actually work? You know, that kinda stuff.
We are thinking that vinyl coated steel is a good choice. Opinions on that? We are in Arizona so rust is not a major concern but it does rain here - occassionally. Also, we are not prone to tornados or hurricanes, do we really need that anchor kit?
Do you remember the night before Christmas where you were trying to put the kids new toys together ? Well even if you do not you will have nightmares after you spread all the parts out to an arrow shed. Make sure you lay all the parts out like the picture shows and count to make sure you have enough of each item. .Also read the directions and compare parts a few times before you build it. I've put 3 of them together over the years and after I gave the last away I built a wood 12X16 shed. Much nicer ! One good thing is you do live in a good climate for one as far as keeping it from rusting. They do not last long down here. Wet and wind do em in. But they are cheap and do the job. After you put it together I'd spend a little more and buy some mobile home roof coating and spread it over the top. It will keep the leaks down and help a little with cooling. If not I'd caulk around all the top screws as they tend to leak. I'd get the anchor kit by the way. It's cheap insurance against the occasional windy day . The sheds are light weight for their size and will move it the wind gets strong enough. Don't let me scare you away. They can be built using simple hand tools just like the ad says. Just be aware there are a lot of parts to put together.
kwetz, This is good info, thanks for taking the time to share your experiences. My hubby is talented at putting stuff together but your comments really helped us get it in perspective. And the tip about roof coating is awesome. We have a small metal shed that came with the house and it leaks like mad every time it rains.
Kwetz, thanks for the tip about the leaks. My Arrow shed is over 2 years old and one corner always leaks -- so that's where I've always kept the wheelbarrel! It thought this was painful to assemble, but it's sure been a lifesaver!
A while back I was thinking about a shed (12x10) and was looking at wood kits from places like Lowe's.
I wanted a concrete slab base and contacted several local contractors and found that none wanted to do the job unless it included assembling the shed (to make their minimum job cost)
So I had one bid on just building a shed (concrete slab included) and the bid was 40-50% more than the kits. But I got (I had it done) a little house. Normal construction 2x4 stud walls, shingle roof with vents and gutters and a real exterior door and double hung windows.
I work at a HD. In general, Aluminum sheds (by Arrow) are a pain in the butt to put together. Too many screws and nuts and bolts!
For the same price (almost) you can ger a vinyl shed
which is much easier to assemble. Besides, you never have to paint vinyl. It does not dent (like an aluminum shed) and does not rust.
The sheds HD (and Lowes, I am sure) will come and assemble on your property are made by Sheds USA. They are wood, have roofing shingles, have a flooring, and options such as windows and skylights. They DO cost a bit more, but are worth the extra $$.
Hey Gita, Thanks a lot for putting in your 2 pennies. I really love being able to ask others what worked and what didn't on their projects. We put the purchase on hold for a bit because of a bunch of other projects we had going. Now it's too dang hot here for building a shed so I hope we can get back to it in the fall/early winter so you folks keep this comments flowing!
This last shot is after Hubby got over his temper tantrum (during which he jumped up and down on the shed and said a lot of words!) and before he had the dang thing hauled off for scrap. Dmitri the Newfoundland likes to pose when I get out the camera, so I let him be in the picture.
PS - I recommend the anchor kit! Hubby swears that next time he will just hire someone to build one for us, no more sheds for him!
A video clip? He would have jumped up and down on ME when he was done with the shed!
I did get a still, but it is really dark, cause I figured if he saw the flash go off, it really would mean divorce!
Poor Hubby, I shouldn't laugh because he is really such a great guy, but this was just like something out of Monty Python or Candid Camera!
I put up the same type of shed over 2 years ago. A real PAIN!!! Your photo reminds me of my ordeal. Mine is still standing -- but I think the 2 bags of concrete mix inside have saved it from blowing away. Of course, it got dented when a limb fell out of the apple tree! It already looks like it's a 100 years old. After seeing your photo after the windstorm I think I'll get the anchor kit. I don't want to build another one! Thanks for sharing.
P.S.: I'm a fairly calm person, but if mine had blown apart like that I would have jumped up and down on it too!! Your DH is not out of line!
I had a 12x16 built at our old house from HD. The materials were delivered on a Thursday and one guy came out and had most of it built on Saturday. He came back on Sunday to finish it. The only thing they didn't do was paint it (rats).
Trying to assemble that Arrow shed was a very unpleasant experience. It took 3 weekends, plus it was during late September and early October, and the breezes were getting brisk. It was nearly impossible to hold those aluminum panels in place while trying to fasten them together. It was such a relief to get all 4 walls connected. One of these days I'd like to have HD come out and build me a nice one. But that's light years from now!
There is a "Sheds USA" shed that is called "Value-Shed" (or something like that) and is an 8'x12' shed and costs like $1700.00. It is one of the sheds they will construct on your site. You have a choice of 3 roof-styles. I DO think the roofing (shingles) come with it. It is of solid construction. There are some "conditions"--so ask an associate!
Windows and such are optional, but not overly expensive.
Next time you go to a HD check it out! Find out just what is "optional" and what is not.
If my ex-Hubbie's creation ever totally gives up the ghost (it is an A-Line, chalet type of a shed he created--just needs Snoopy on top of it), I will buy this one as I already have a poured concrete base that is 8'x12'.
At my HD, the "Sheds USA" sheds are displayed on the parking lot near the Garden area. There should also be a Kiosk somewhere in garden with free pamphlets on ALL the sheds.
Good luck, and I hope you took my advice on Arrow Sheds!
All the disaster stories validate what I told you.
I think the standard shed was one window and a single door. So we added 4 more windows, a double door, two lofts, and the ramp (yes it is an option too - at least the double wide one is). All the wood, cinder blocks is delivered uncut (I was surprised it wasn't pre-cut for a kit). Shingles were included and so were the gable vents. I can't remember who the company was that contracts with HD to build these but they did a good job - I was surprised that one guy did it in a weekend (maybe 12 hours).
Their double decker was around 5k to 6k depending on how large it was (16x16?). My dad got one built by the Mennonites (12x20) which is delivered on site already put together and painted for $2000.
Oh, Sylvi...Your series of photos has me in stitches! I can see that being us. It can get really windy up on our hill.
We'd like to get a wooden shed for the main reason that we can attach a greenhouse to it in the future; vinyl was appealing in its low-maintenance, but we'd be stuck when it came to customizing it, putting in extra windows, adding on, etc.
I'm going to post in the Ohio River Valley forum and see if someone can recommend Mennonite builders in our area. I'd love a 12x16' shed, but cost-wise, I think our limit's going to be 10x10'.
I first posted in March of this year so it only took 6 months to get the shed. Here's a pic. It's 12' deep, 8' wide and 10' tall. Has a loft, a skylight and a small window on one side. Bought it from a local man who contacted me as a result of this thread. It was his demo model and he had to move it as the 'sales lot' is being converted to a haunted house and corn maze for Halloween. I got a good deal on it but since it was already built the trick was getting it delivered. We used a towing company and one of those flat bed tow trucks. They just winched it onto the flatbed, strapped it down and headed to our house. Said they got lots of weird looks from other freeway drivers. When they got here the driver just backed into where we wanted it placed and tipped it off the back. Sweet.
Edited to add: I know you all want to know pricing - it's certainly my first question. The shed I got for $1600, delivery was $275. Of course it was as far across town as one could go and still say you're in Phoenix so there was a considerable mileage factor.
I bet it did! How cool to get one already painted and in such great shape! I'd love to find a bargain like that. Our poor tools and lawn stuff are stuffed in a tiny Rubbermaid shed and a plastic greenhouse shelf unit. The lawnmower braves the elements with a tarp. LOL
Well that is a nice one. We just decided to buy a 40 ft cargo container as a shed, it had a huge lockable double steel door at one end but we paid a little more to have a mobile home keyed door put in on the side that faces our bedroom and we are going to paint the house and it too and I am going to put lattice up on the side and grow vines and stuff over it and put a lionhead fountain in the middle and have it spit out water into a claw foot bathtub that I have been dragging around for years. If that doesn`t meet our storage needs we are in trouble and definately would need to reevaluate our junk and consider a huge yard sale. lol Oh ya it will be part of the microclimate that I am setting up so maybe I`ll have better gardening luck on the other side of my house.
Yes it came on a regular truck. They probably have companies that sell them near ports in Lake Erie. Ours came solid burgundy with a white door about 8 feet from the end you see closest to you so where I want to put the fountain is near the erg in evergreen. It was with amazing precision they laid it right where we marked the corners, I could not believe it. We can even park our motorcycles in it if we wanted to and drive right out the end that is not in the picture. It definatly neads some camaflageas it looks like a large trash dumpster now. lol
No because we don`t want anyone to be able to get in it but it is all white insideand bright and we will put light inside it. They can put them in though if you want or if you weld you can put it in yourself.
That is what I want when I retire - a small lot with a backyard just big enough to squeeze in a big greenhouse (if the neighbors let me).
My brother in law put in a steel building in his subdivision with the idea if you get it in quick enough then the neighbors can't say anything. I don't know how many cars you could park in this monstrosity (6 or 8). It even has a front porch on it wide enough so he can park his SUV under the shed roof. His mother said that if he put some rocking chairs on the porch then it could pass for a Cracker Barrel.
I purchased this one from Menards. The cost was about $2,000 with another $1,000 to add electric and water. It was relativley easy to put up, we bolted it to an old silo slab and it has held well. It came with shelves and has worked great for my plants, except I can't heat it in the winter.
What a great greenhouse/shed! I have plenty of storage right now (the garage doesn't house the vehicles, just the tools, lawnmowers, misc. stuff), but I would would love to add a small lean-to greenhouse (on the side of the unheated sunporch) &/or a 8' x 10' Lifetime vinyl shed to use as a chicken coop, adding an attached run.
In my town people have them all over their land and it does look like crap. Ours is integrated into the yard and it doubles as a wall and seperates part of the yard and the overflow driveway. Eventually we will build a covered car port in front and attached to the cargo container and it will be invisable to anyone else.
It has flowers growing all around and we painted it, I will finish a clawfoot bath fountain against it after the elm and muberry fuzzies stop blowing around and make a mosaic backing on it with some trellises. We think it will be great. If my neighbors get one, I won't like it though because I know what they would do with theirs.
This is in my side yard, but a picture from my porch sideways and you can see back in the winter when all was dormant, no flowers like there is now, but on the other side is a driveway and the other side of it is this ugly trailer with these people who don't pull weeds and park a semi in the yard, so we don't care. Our neighborhood is a bunch of acreage of people who don't care. We are screening them out.!!!!!
Eventually we will probably make it a rental house and move anyway. For now it is making it liveable for us.
We thought about the cargo thing, but decided against it. Instead we're making payments on a really nice large storage building. We don't even have a garage (we have a carport) and live in a singlewide mobile, so need storage SO bad. I'm tired of all the clutter! A neighbor put a storage building in too close to the road and the neighborhood association got after him, but our lot is bigger, so shouldn't be a problem. We haven't decided exactly where to put it yet...wherever it goes, I guess we've got to have some trees removed.
Bummer about the trees. We were fortunate we had just the right place to have our shed built. We got it through Lowe's last May on a 12-months no interest/nopayment thing. It comes due this month and we're paying the rest of it off with our federal stimulus package check.
Depending on what you're paying in monthly payments, you might better benefit by doing a similar deal and putting the payments toward the bill. That way, you'll own it at some point and have something to show for your money.
It is 12' tall at its peak, with a loft in the back. It looks taller because we had to compensate for the slope of our lot.
Thank you! It does brighten up the corner. The warm late afternoon and evening sun looks so pretty on it, too. We still need to landscape around it. We want to put hardware cloth around the base (to keep the critters out) and then white vinyl lattice. For the 10-year warranty to remain in effect, we must keep the airflow open between the crushed gravel and the floor. I plan to build soil up in a slope around the shed and plant some low-growing plants. I'd like to have vining plants on trellises along the right side you see there. Eventually, we'd like to put in a solar security light and inside light; it's pretty dark out there at night now.
Linda we live in a triple wide on land in an area with a lot of mobiles and modulars mixed in w/ stick built homes. My street happens to have all the yucky old ones that people don't care about their homes as we do. So the cargo container blocks the view of the neighbor's homes. It is nice to have storage, if you have a single wide you need all the storage you can possibly get. I am happy that we all have storage that works for us. Yeah storage.
I need some advice. Do any of you have the Arrow Vinyl Murryhill sheds? I am not sure about the rules of the forums for posting web sites... We are debating between the 12x17 or the 12x24 - and we will get the anchoring kit, and putting it on a plywood type floor (concrete is just too high right now). It says they are the vinyl coated steel so they are better quality than the cheaper metal sheds. I know it is going to be a pain the you know what to assemble put we will get over that. We need the room. Are they worth the money? Would you buy it again? Any advice would be great!
Tanya, I don't have a shed yet, but I checked with my county about permits required for constructing a kit and they told us anything larger than 150 sq ft would result in a change to our real estate tax base. That made me rethink what size I could live with.
Isn't it amazing that there are so many different ways assessments are handled. We too are out in the country, but the whole county was reassessed in 2008, just before real estate values started plummeting. Requests for relief from the higher assessments have met with negative responses in belief that the real estate market will rise over time, blah, blah, blah. If I could afford the larger size and it didn't affect my taxes, I'd personally opt for the larger. Whatever your decision, I hope you enjoy your garden shed.
Here any 10x10 shed, no matter how tall, does not need a permit. If it is larger, than you do need a permit or conditional use permit or something. It does not get taxed though. I think they are just looking to make sure your neighbors don't complain and that you are not building a house and calling it a shed.
I saw one on HGTV AND IT WAS AWESOME. Who would have thought that it would be to code, but honestly it is so structurally sound, it is a great idea. I see some cool things people have done with them, but no houses have I seen in person. Thanks for sharing. Maybe they will hold up well in a tornado.
There are links on the bottom of the page to their own web site and a TV story on it. I understood that the advantages are that it cuts down on construction time and building costs. The downside was that the city inspectors had never seen a house made out of one so they spent more time with the inspections.
There are so many of these buildings around the world, that it will be the standard one day for vacation homes I bet. I wish my church could get them and send them over to Mexico instead of these little houses we fabricate to take over there.
I looked it up after I saw this, because I and my husband are always looking at ways we could add space for storage or guest rooms, etc. for our property and our county is not the type to enforce codes at all. It is crazy. We have one that doubles as a wall for our yard, to divide the parking side from the yard, garden side, plus we put our motorcycle in it and lawnmower etc. and we have a door that goes into it, we would like to build a garage one, with a guest quarters above it.
I kind of put the idea on a shelf, but designing it would be so fun. I would love to be an architect and design homes from them. I saw one that had a gable roof and it was not modern, that is the way I would like it.
Wonder how much they can be bought in Mexico? If they are cheap, our church could buy some for the people over there. When I was there one time, visiting my X's mom, in Tecate, we went by on a dirt road, while it was raining and there was a man and a woman and a newborn sitting under plywood, that was sitting on blocks with no door or curtain. My heart broke and I never forgot it. Not that I don't think we could stand to do this for our people here too, but codes and stuff make it harder, where over there, you could give them a 10x8 or a 20x8 one for a larger family and they could do nicely for themselves in it. They are ingenius at improvision.
I saw that but it would be too far to be affordable. It would be something that would be much easier to do from here and work with my church to get info on it and talk to the government officials that we already deal with since we take over these little wood homes, that look like a giant loft dog house for the border towns in Mexico. The cargo containers require trucks to bring them in and I bet we would not be able to get American trucks to risk going there to do it.
I was more saying talk with them about who they know as it might lead you to a ready or reputiable comapny to deal with. For sure you need to talk with the reps that you currently work with. The cargo containers generally get shipped on trains, ocean cargo ships, and trucks. So I think you might have a choice of transportation to get it there.