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junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 6, 2006
2:39 PM

Post #2168389

this is one of the plumies i bought from evelyn...i have never had an inflo with color IMMEDIATELY>..it came from Hawaii..and may be her "almost black"...take a peek

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Chantell

Chantell
Middle of, VA
(Zone 7a)

April 6, 2006
9:15 PM

Post #2169271

Bob - too, too cool!!! :)
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 6, 2006
9:36 PM

Post #2169326

Very nice, Bob! Please post a picture of it when it blooms. I would very much like to see if her Almost Black is really almost black.
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 6, 2006
10:24 PM

Post #2169410

clare..and chantell..thanks...i have heard from some others...that they have had plumies with the same coloring...it is unique to me though...will follow up with pics as it blooms..
MG99
Victoria, BC
(Zone 8b)

April 6, 2006
11:57 PM

Post #2169629

that's exciting, will wait for it to bloom too.
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

April 8, 2006
12:43 AM

Post #2172529

Keep in mind that the black maybe reliant on the Ha sun and heat too.
She may end up really really dark red but perhaps not as dark as your hoping.
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 8, 2006
1:22 AM

Post #2172662

michael..if it stays as hot here in florida as it was today..90...maybe it will be...whatever it turns out will be a great serendipity...8))
Sendone2me
Orlando, FL

April 8, 2006
1:30 AM

Post #2172687

I am rooting a cutting I Ordered from Hawaii and it too looks like yours.
I was wondering if it was going to bloom. Fran
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 8, 2006
1:32 AM

Post #2172691

should bloom...mine is forming an inflo...do you have an inflo yet...
BDunn
Sunset Beach, NC
(Zone 8a)

April 12, 2006
5:19 AM

Post #2183398

Bob, for this dummy (me!)...what's an inflo?
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 12, 2006
10:09 AM

Post #2183513

An inflo (short for inflorescence) is the bloom stalk. In the picture of Bob's plumie it is very clearly visible on the right hand side.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 12, 2006
7:33 PM

Post #2184834

Bob, many of my inflo's look like that, but it is not necessarily an indication that the flowers will be red. I've had rainbows and pinks that emerged with very red stems and a red overall coloration. It probably is red since that is what you bought, but I've had had colors look like that too.
Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 18, 2006
6:19 PM

Post #2200362

Hi Bob, I also recieved some cuttings from Evelyn,and as of today, 3 varieties have bloomed for me! Here are some pics of them...

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 18, 2006
6:21 PM

Post #2200368

This one was next...

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 18, 2006
6:23 PM

Post #2200372

And this one opened just today!!

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 18, 2006
6:27 PM

Post #2200383

Oh, I almost forgot to ask for ID help on these photos, as the cuttings came pretty much unmarked.Thanks...
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 18, 2006
7:00 PM

Post #2200454

Hi Dave! Nice flowers! Thanks for sharing them. That is awesome that you got some blooms already. I too bought some cuttings from her, but her 'Almost Black' cutting was mostly rotten when it arrived. I cut off most of the rot and grafted the top part. We'll see if it takes. Did you have any trouble rooting them? Reds can be tough to root, but you must have done well! I don't recognize any named registered cultivars in your pictures, but they are nice unnamed ones!
Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 18, 2006
7:45 PM

Post #2200567

Hi Clare! We also recieved one 'Almost Black' cutting,although I'm not sure it survived our chilly winter here.We lost 15 out of 50 cuttings from her,I thought it was probably due to my lack of experience. If I get some new varieties of hers to bloom, I'll be sure to post the pic's..
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 18, 2006
8:13 PM

Post #2200620

HI Dave...good pics...Evelyn was very gracious...some of the ones she sent struggled..but i have had pretty good success so far...am anxious to see the blooms...think she said they're a mix of Hawaiian plants...so no real names...Bob
Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 18, 2006
8:42 PM

Post #2200694

Bob, Its alot of fun to watch as these flowers develope, it amazes me how you cant tell for sure what color your going to get untill they open.And the smell is such a bonus, each one different from the next...Its OK to me if they dont have names, I would'nt love them any less.
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 19, 2006
12:23 AM

Post #2201132

DAve I agree and i give some of mine...my own name 8^))
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 19, 2006
12:51 AM

Post #2201193

Thanks, Dave and Bob, for letting me know how you are both fairing with her cuttings. I purchased 20 from her, and only the Almost Black looked bad, but I am hoping the graft of the top part will take. I have mine in a group container just sitting on top of dry potting soil on a heat source. Bottom heat seems to be the key to rooting success. Any soil temperature over 80 is said to be ideal for rooting cuttings.

Dave, I'm looking forward to seeing more of your pictures. I feel the same way you do because some of my favorite plumerias are not named and not registered at all.
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 19, 2006
12:55 AM

Post #2201206

i haven't used a heat source other than the concrete driveway
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

April 19, 2006
1:05 AM

Post #2201229

I just set a 10 gallon aquarium on top of my oil filled heater.
The bottom has 3 inches of perlite,
I sunk the cuttings in it and sprayed them lightly.
I sunk about 15 cuttings in all.
The temp is no less than 80 and as high as 98-99
We shall see!!
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 19, 2006
1:18 AM

Post #2201261

Bob, that's a pretty good heat source!

Michael, you are so smart! My heat source that I was talking about above is also my oil-radiant heater in the greenhouse! LOL! I bet every single one of yours will root! I hear that, when you use the Perlite on top of heat method, you need to keep some water at the very bottom or the roots will fry. Someone on Pals mentioned that. I think it was Dewayne. He leaves his cuttings in his aquarium filled with Perlite on a heat source too, and he lets them get big root systems before he pulls them out, but he says that, if the aquarium is dry, then the roots burn up so he has to make sure that there is some water at the bottom at all times. I did this method with one special cutting, and it worked, but I potted it up before the roots became long.
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

April 19, 2006
2:13 AM

Post #2201450

Yeah, Im not waiting for the roots to form a mass.
When they show its into the soil with them.
Then ill keep the pot in the aquarium too lol!!
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
12:56 AM

Post #2203764

getting here late today..i went to visit Richlin frangipani farm...about 60miles south of me...they have sold their place after 2 years of devastating hurricanes...they are selling their complete stock of plumies...but cannot ship...if anyone is in the florida area..it could be a nice trip and some very good prices...Richard has 2 wonderful whippet dogs...i fell in love with them..so gentle and wonderful companions..Jasper goes everyplace with Richard all over the "farm"...Blossom kind of sleeps in the shade...he he...

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junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
12:57 AM

Post #2203771

Rich and jasper

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junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
12:58 AM

Post #2203776

and Blossom

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junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
12:58 AM

Post #2203778

richard and plumies

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junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
12:59 AM

Post #2203783

lots of work involved...

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junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
1:00 AM

Post #2203787

AND..

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Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

April 20, 2006
1:19 AM

Post #2203839

Richlin was the first to send me seeds in 04 when I got started big time.
Myheart is heavy at their loss.
They will be in our prayers for sure.
He is a generous man.
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
1:31 AM

Post #2203889

Michael..i had such a wonderful time.i wish everyone could visit..
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 20, 2006
2:55 AM

Post #2204243

The pictures aren't showing up for me. Maybe Dave's server is having problems again. I'll check back to see if the pictures show up for me later, but thanks for posting this Bob. I sure wish I could go visit him, and it is neat that you did. I love whippets! I may have to get one or two one day.
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 20, 2006
10:10 AM

Post #2204699

hmmm Clare same here...didn't notice this last night...i'll ck back later...or send me your email address and i'll fwd email with the pics...Bob
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

April 20, 2006
2:01 PM

Post #2205142

Your pics were fine last night.
Sendone2me
Orlando, FL

April 20, 2006
5:50 PM

Post #2205759

My cutting looks exactly like yours. The top I mean. I am rooting it in water and I have two in the water and one now has roots and the other one does not. I hestate to put them in the ground for fear the roots will rot.Fran
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

April 20, 2006
8:34 PM

Post #2206175

Bob, the server must be fixed. I noticed pictures missing last night all over the forum. That happens sometimes when the server is being worked on. Anyway, I can see your pictures now, and they are great! Thanks for sharing them. I love, love, love those whippets. Richlin looks like a great guy. I so wish that I lived closer because I would be there in a heartbeat. Anyone who lives near him or within travelling distance of him should go get some great deals on established plants!

Fran, if you are in an area which doesn't freeze, you can plant yours in the ground, and they will do great. You can even plant them in the ground if your area does freeze in the winter if you dig them up before the first frost and store them in the garage. Once a plumeria has roots, it will not rot unless it is subjected to cold/wet conditions for a period of time. If you have good drainage and warm weather, your plumies will love being planted. If you are just starting out rooting them, you can put them in one-gallon containers, and once the roots fill the one-gallon container, you can either plant it in the ground or move it up to a five-gallon container and plant it in the ground next year. By the way, water rooting can be quite tricky with plumerias since they have so much water in their stems so congratulations on your success at rooting one of them!
Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2006
2:47 AM

Post #2249951

Heres a couple more blooms from my cuttings that I recieved from (Ebayer) Evelyn...

This first one I believe must be a type of shell plumeria.I kept waiting for the first two flowers to open fully but they never did.Then I cut the inflo off (to speed up rooting) and put it in some water .Of course the next flower opened fully so Im not sure what it is...

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2006
2:49 AM

Post #2249958

Heres a closeup...

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2006
2:51 AM

Post #2249968

And heres what it looks like fully open...

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2006
2:55 AM

Post #2249983

This is the fifth kind to bloom from her, it is a nice dark pink and it smells just like bubblegum!

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2006
2:57 AM

Post #2249986

Any news on the "almost black" flower?
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

May 5, 2006
3:39 AM

Post #2250100

Hi Dave! Thanks for posting these flowers of Evelyn's. It gives me an idea what to look forward to from her cuttings. I still haven't potted her cuttings yet. They are just sitting upright together in a bucket on top of some soil. The weather should start warming up soon.

That is really great that you have gotten five of hers to bloom so far. Those flowers you posted are lovely. Those first flowers may be not opening all the way because they lack the energy, or as you said, it could be a shell like 'Peachglow Shell,' but your open flower doesn't look like 'Peachglow Shell' which has fatter petals, I think (see pic below of Peachglow Shell).

When I cut the bottom off of my 'Almost Black,' it looked really bad so I kept cutting until I found clean white wood, and since there was only a few inches left, I grafted the top piece. It took! It now is getting some leaves. I have her green striped one in with the mix, but the tag fell off so now I have no idea which one it is. I'm sure I'll label them as they bloom with their color and scent. I really like the 'bubblegum' description that you said about the pink. I sure hope I have that one! Thanks again.

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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2006
4:27 AM

Post #2250200

Hi Clare, my shell type flower is not nearly as vibrant as the pic you posted.But the cutting was not very well rooted and I suppose it may look a little different next time it blooms.

About a week ago I ended up winning another 20 cuttings from one of her auctions.
It was said to include her "Ebony" cutting.Im hoping this is her "Almost Black" that she offered before.Its really hard to beat $2.25 apiece for cuttings delivered to my doorstep.

Heres another pic of #2

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

May 5, 2006
5:28 PM

Post #2251535

Dave, you are right: you can't really beat that price. That was my thinking too. That is a fantastic picture you posted of #3. I love the colors and the way they look against the back background. Stunning! I may have to go back for more! I'll be sure to post my pics of hers when they bloom. Thanks again for sharing, and please post more as yours open.
junglebob
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2006
1:28 AM

Post #2252717

many of Evelyn's have inflos on now and hoping to open shortly..will do pics when they open..great pics Dave
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

May 6, 2006
6:14 AM

Post #2253434

I look forward to seeing your pics, Bob!
Maydreams27
Port Saint Lucie, FL
(Zone 9b)

September 14, 2007
2:25 AM

Post #3972994

JungleBob,

I have been to Richlins farm many times and went to the hosue the other day. i am sure you would be sad to hear Blossom has since had her leg removed. Maybe about 6 months ago I think Rich said. She gets a long just fine though like nothing happened.

Flutter
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

September 14, 2007
4:32 AM

Post #3973395

Flutter, this is an old thread from last April, and I don't think JungleBob reads the threads here anymore. He is over at MPG though every day so you can find him there.
Danasplants
Mulberry, FL

September 14, 2007
11:55 AM

Post #3973815

Looks like a nice little trip to Ft Peirce been there before when I worked the boat show circuit nice little town.I'll take the camera along too. Great fishing there too.
Maydreams27
Port Saint Lucie, FL
(Zone 9b)

September 14, 2007
5:36 PM

Post #3975038

Okay, I'll go see him there. Thanks
MickeyAz
Cave Creek, AZ

September 15, 2007
5:05 PM

Post #3978231

What is poto number 2? It loks like a real winner!
Mickey
Danasplants
Mulberry, FL

September 16, 2007
12:05 PM

Post #3980830

I purchased neon lights about a month ago and its sending out a inflo I like it when it does that you know if you recived the right thing. Over half the plants I have that have not bloomed all have inflos starting like some one threw the switch. There are even a few that have bloomed going to again. I don't know if its the time of year or what.
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

September 17, 2007
8:31 PM

Post #3985948

Happy Birthday Bob! Hope it has been a wonderful day for you!!!
Teresa_in_BC
Victoria, BC
(Zone 8a)

September 19, 2007
3:28 AM

Post #3991791

While lusting after all of these pics, I was saddened that I didn't have a Plumie farm near me... When SUDDENLY, I realized that it was probably a GOOD thing, as I'd surely be broke if one existed here.

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