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JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 3, 2006
7:18 PM

Post #2245444

Is this okay???...I know I always see ants crawling on peony's...are the following aphids around?I don't want aphids on my roses...I thought someone on this forum could be of help to me...thanks ahead of time...:-)
seedpicker_TX
(Taylor) Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 3, 2006
7:37 PM

Post #2245510

They just know there is a great supply of sugar inside, and they can hardly wait! lol...

I've never had aphids on my peonies...but I always have the ants. I really don't see them much once they've opened...just primarily when they are waiting for them to open...
-T
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 3, 2006
8:13 PM

Post #2245615

Oh good...I'd hate to have an aphid showdown with the ants...I don't like spraying poisons...I hate breathing the stuff...
jburesh
Renton, WA
(Zone 8a)

May 4, 2006
4:16 AM

Post #2247188

I've heard the ants are necessary to eat the sugary residue off the buds in order for them to bloom. I have no ants, do I need to try and attract some?

JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 4, 2006
4:24 AM

Post #2247201

awesome...I never knew that..how cool...
Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 4, 2006
7:14 PM

Post #2248633

I've read that too. They are harmless and just doing their thing. However if you don't have ants I'm sure your peonies will bloom ok. Time will tell!
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 4, 2006
8:36 PM

Post #2248818

thanks everyone for being so helpful...:-)
fancyvan
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

May 5, 2006
2:36 AM

Post #2249919

Thats an old wives tale!
They are just after the sugar.
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 5, 2006
3:40 PM

Post #2251232

There are lots of wives tales out there..lol...
Blackwing
Gazelle, CA

May 14, 2006
4:41 PM

Post #2278296

The ants on my peonies would always damage the buds, which meant damaged flower petals once the flowers opened. So I dusted them with rose dust -- not good to use chemicals, I know, but I really resented those ants ruining my peonies! I would love to know an environmentally friendly way of discouraging the ants.
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 14, 2006
5:00 PM

Post #2278329

I would like to know also..I have liver problems and shouldn't use chemicals anyway...
fancyvan
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

May 15, 2006
1:19 PM

Post #2281604

Maybe just a good spray of water would help - or insecticidal soap?
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 15, 2006
6:18 PM

Post #2282464

Thanks I'll just hit them with the hose..if that doesn't work and the ants come right back I'll use some soap spray... :-)
Blackwing
Gazelle, CA

May 16, 2006
12:21 AM

Post #2283613

I have read in a number of sources that ants are harmless to peonies. But I've always felt sure that they were eating the buds. I mean -- I see the little chewed places on the buds (which turn into chewed-looking petals, after the buds open), and ants swarming over the buds; then I get rid of the ants, and lo and behold, no more damage to the buds. Am I missing something? Why does the common knowledge say that ants do no harm??
Magpye
NW Qtr, AR
(Zone 6a)

May 16, 2006
1:56 AM

Post #2283901

.. JodyC ..

I can't offer you any type of professional answer ..
Can only merely state, that of the many varieties of ants that have visited my Peonies in 7+ years: it appears they do no harm at all .. other than crawl onto me and cause me to fling and swing my arms wildly, to get them off of me .. (hee)

- Magpye

Pic #1 of 2 .. Here's one of many Peony buds that the ants were attending(?), in April.

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Magpye
NW Qtr, AR
(Zone 6a)

May 16, 2006
1:59 AM

Post #2283917

And, they're still attending the fully opened blooms, today ...

- Magpye

Pic #2 of 2 ..

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Blackwing
Gazelle, CA

May 16, 2006
5:44 AM

Post #2284599

Very interesting, Magpye! I wonder if I have been wrongly accusing ants all these years. Maybe something else was nibbling my peonies.

By the way -- those are some amazing closeups! You are quite the photographer :)
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 16, 2006
5:28 PM

Post #2285808

Thanks Magpye
I'll just leave the ants alone and let the ants do their thing,maybe they like the smell as much as I do...lol..What a beautiful peony,I need some colored ones,which I might have but don't know it yet..lol...I have 3 and only one bloomed last year..I got them in a trade and don't know what colors they all are yet..I do have a gorgeous white one...this is from last year...Mine are getting ready to bloom..maybe a week or so more to wait...

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billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

May 17, 2006
3:29 AM

Post #2287858

Ants are just eating the sweet secretions. They don't hurt the peony and aren't needed for the peony to open.

This one is fragrant.

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JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 17, 2006
1:58 PM

Post #2288871

I figured they liked something about them,the smell the sugar...I know mine don't get eaten...thanks again...
Magpye
NW Qtr, AR
(Zone 6a)

May 17, 2006
3:14 PM

Post #2289073

Oh lookey .. Now, haint that sumthin', BillyPorter! You (or someone) has been framed within a 'heart' .. on the gazing(?) ball!!

- Magpye

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

May 17, 2006
6:38 PM

Post #2289622

It's me. I was going to title it ''Me and the Peony Thru the Looking Glass, but now that I see the heart I'll have to rethink it. Cool!
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 17, 2006
11:54 PM

Post #2290513

heehee...
LoraB
Billerica, MA
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2006
3:20 PM

Post #2296079

Magpye, could you please tell me the name of the peony you posted a photo of? I've one just like it.
Thanks,
LoraB
Magpye
NW Qtr, AR
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2006
5:08 PM

Post #2296415

Oh my!! ..
I really wish I could share the name/ID with you - but, I have absolutely no idea, LoraB ...

I've sort of, been hopin' that I'd spy-ball someone else's that are similar.. and would pick up a name for them also. (*so ashamed*) .. Truly sorry ..

The two plants, is what has become of one (that I'd divided) .. of a larger/mature Peony bush that we'd dug, from an old abandoned home place .. not too far from us. They provide such a massive bunch of some of the largest of the palest of pink blossoms, that I've seen in the area. Even the leaves are large with the deepest and wonderful color of green. The foilage itself, holds on .. long after all of the other 'unknowns' begin to dry. Heck, the stems are thick, long, and really strong; but the flowers come on in multiples: and being such large blooms - takes no time for the stems to collapse - if not amply supported. Sometimes the stems still can't support the weight ..

How bout, we jes call 'em "Lora's", for the time being-?- for your lovely name and which jes so happens to be, the name of our youngest lil grt grandyunkin' (short for Lorelei), in New Mexico: of which I lovingly call, my 'bettyboop' !! .. heehee

- Magpye
jgoutwest
Bozeman, MT
(Zone 3a)

May 20, 2006
4:47 AM

Post #2298479

I just subscribed today and this was my first question. Whoops I sprayed, ants are back anyway and I will leave them alone. This is my first lawn and I am very excited here in Montana.
Magpye
NW Qtr, AR
(Zone 6a)

May 20, 2006
1:04 PM

Post #2298972

.. jgoutwest ..

A big ol 'hearty' welcome .. to DG, to ya .. jg!!

- Magpye
jgoutwest
Bozeman, MT
(Zone 3a)

May 20, 2006
4:29 PM

Post #2300007

Thank you magpye!
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 20, 2006
5:12 PM

Post #2300086

Hi jgoutwest welcome to Dave's you'll love it here..I know I do...Here's a photo of my peony taken last night...I never did spray mine off even woth water and they look great and are huge...:-)

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Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

May 25, 2006
3:56 AM

Post #2315046

Hi guys, the Heartland Peony Society has a really wonderful database of peony cultivars and a pretty nifty search engine. You might go check it out. It might just be able to help you identify your peonies...

http://www.peonies.org/

Diann
JodyC
Palmyra, IL
(Zone 5b)

May 25, 2006
4:17 PM

Post #2316258

Thanks Ticker...:-)
Magpye
NW Qtr, AR
(Zone 6a)

May 25, 2006
4:18 PM

Post #2316262

Thanks, Ticker/Diann .. for the input. Appreciate the suggestion and the link, very much.

- Magpye
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

May 25, 2006
5:17 PM

Post #2316422

You are all more than welcome. I find the site to be very useful. ;) It helped me identify a peony that was sold to me as Bowl of Beauty, but instead seems to be more like Roseletta.. :)

Diann

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