this is a pic of one of seeds I received from GordonHawk--thanks Gordon! I will use this thread to chronicle my growing experience. I had never seen the seeds before. The FAQ section that Clare created has lots of info on how to grow from seed.
Nery, I got some too, and those are the biggest plumeria seeds that I've ever seen. The normal size is about half that big. Happy sowing! Mine are already sitting in warm, moist soil in my mini greenhouse!
Mine have soaked and been given a lil pre sprouting cocktail.
Now they are in a covered tray of sterile soil on a heating pad.
OOOOO Im bustin to see these launch!!
IM BEGGING FOR MORE!!!!
PLEASE SEND MORE!!!
Im naming the seedlings 'Malestrom's Panama Hawk'
I hope Gordon likes it. ;^)
I went thru the FAQ for growing from seed, I didn't see anything about soaking. How long should I soak them? thanks.
Nery, some people soak them instead of using the moist papertowel method. Michael will have to tell you how long he soaks them for. It is basically the same as having them in a moist warm paper towel for a few days, and when you see them start to sprout, you can stick them in potting soil. This time of year, I stick them directly into soil and mist frequently.
I soak till the shell softens, then I peel it back so the embryo is in the soil and moisture.
Im not talking bout a water soak either.
Im talkin frankensoak here heh....
Oh WOW this is going to be an exciting thread to watch. I wish I had some too.
Kell pouting in California.
Kell, I just sent the ones that I had left over to my friend in Thailand, but I bet Gordon will send you some if you email him. He is a sweetie!
Oh that is OK, Clare. I will live vicariously. LOL
I e-mailed him and havent heard back as yet.
He must be a busy fellow. ;^)
kell, i have more than enough and would happy share with you seeds or seedlings. Will plant tomorrow.
Congrat, Nery! They look great! Gordon is a very generous person, isn't he? And so are you! Thanks, Gordon!
How is everyone's Panama White seedlings from GordonHawk doing? I noticed the strangest thing yesterday. I have them scattered all over the place -- two are in the greenhouse; two are against the house; and two are out in the yard.
The two out in the yard, which is the coldest, dampest place of the three locations, got black tip! My Singapore got black tip too. Interesting! I just snapped the tip off with my fingers and put them against the house. The others did not get black tip. This just re-enforces the theory that black tip is related to damp cold conditions as it is much warmer in the other locations. We just had some cold rain here as well. Here's a picture of them last August.
hiya Clare & Gordon. Mine are about the size of the ones in your pic. They are in the garage, itching to come out. Not all of them lost their leaves. About 1/2 of them have 2-3 leaves, while all the non-Panama plumies have none. In about another 2 weeks, I will be moving them to my patio. We had a cold spell in early Feb. which we hadn't had in 5 years (according to weather people) and my tropicals took a beating. I think they will come back but it has been a while since I've seen so many things dead. So much brown around my yard. I was spoiled.
Have been out working w/ the roses, time for some Diet 7-Up and mindless TV.
Hi Nery! I hear ya girl, but fortunately, a lot is starting to come back from the cold spell we had. I hope yours do too. I bet they will with a little heat and sunshine.
Dete, was the greenhouse consistently warm, even at night? It could be stress that causes black tip, whether cold stress or dampness or some other kind of stress. I always seem to get it in the winter or spring when it rains.
OH..I'd missed this thread before.. What fun...
Kell...oh girl.. did you get yours from Nery... you know I'd have sent them to you.. I guess I sent everyone too many of them
Nery...well they all sprouted good going there... but how could they refuse you... kindred spirit and all..
Michael...OHsorry... must have missed your request bye-mail..in a deletion flurry at some point...sorry... Idid run across a few of them the other day.. If you still wish to have more .. I'minPhilly at the flower show on Thursday.. this comming week..I can hand them off to you then.. Or resend your address.. and we can chance shipping.... I'm sure they must still be kind of OK...although not weeks from the pod as before..maybe not 100% as Nery got ...but surely you should get some to grow..
Clare...AW..gee ..thanks...I'm happy to share the excitement and joy..with lovers...
Big.. yes they were...as were the trees... and such fun...climbing out on a limb..some20' in the air to snag an open pod ... with not yet launched seeds... the pods them selves... must have beem 16"long..and a good 4" wide.. my seeds are doing better than the cuttings...
All the best there ...Gordon
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Here are my Panama Hawk babies this morning. They had to stay in the dark garage for almost a week while I was out of town and the nights were in the 30's; they did not like that at all and lost all their leaves. Our temps are back to normal with days in the 60's/70's and nights in the 40's/50's so they will start growing again soon.
I have given a number of them away to like minded gardeners and to several hort society plant sales.
The taller ones are about 15 1/2" with circumferences of 2". The tiniest one has black tip, I'll have to put that baby in pediatric intensive care. alice
wow. mine are a LOT smaller than yours. Mine were in garage too since about Dec. Maybe I should have watered a little more. I promise to be a better mommie in the future. Mine are sprouting leaves already though. maybe they've forgiven me....
Alice, I can see the one that has black tip. You can just cut that tip off, and it will branch below the cut. The straight ones don't need a stake any longer, but the crooked ones do. I would pull up those stakes on the crooked ones and place it flush against the stem and tie it at the base with a plastic stretchy tie. Then gently pull the top portion toward the stake and tie it where you feel some tension. In a week or more, you can tighten it again until it is completely straight. It looks like the one on the far right and in the middle need that.
Forgot to say: Thanks, Gordon! It's great to see you here!
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Thanks Clare, I'll trim that black tip off first thing tomorrow! Should I dust the cut end with a fungicide?
Gordon, this has been such fun learning about growing plummies from seed; thank you giving me the opportunity by sharing your bounty.
Alice... well it was my pleasure... to share these with you... and everyone.. there is an OLD tradition in my family
[ Southern ] not to thank a person for seeds or plants ...as they had little really to do with it...but to promise to grow them as best as you might..and to give thanks to God for his bounty.. I'm really just the gatherer or waterer.. just thought I'd share this old time tradition with Ya'll..kind of cute... reading the word bounty brought it back to mind...it's from back in the days when there was great dependency on what you grew or chose to give away..
Oh...Got some great news today which some might have seen posted already,, Shazz in Brisbane Australia had received some of the wild Panamaian seeds..planted back in October summer there...and they hadn't sprouted..and the import folks were blamed...perhaps irriaditing them...others were growing in the flat so it wasn't dumped...now they were just noticed to be sprouting...and overtaking the others in size..from what I understand...enclosed is a picture sent showing them... never give them up without due time.. might be a survival technique... from a tree growing naturally in a real hot area..have the seeds await cooler weather..in Oct..it was real hot there then and didn't get cool till now.. Just a thought... Gordon
can you guess which are Gordon's Wild Panamanians
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Those are huge seeds! Ardesia your babies are looking good!! Are these seeds available for sale anywhere?
LOL, my grandmother used to say the same thing; that's why I just thanked you for sharing your bounty. We were always told to word our appreciation carefully and never to say the actual words like seeds or plants. Silly old custon but awfully sweet I think.
I like that name. Gordon's Wild Panamanians. I baptize thee as GWPs in Richmond, TX!!!!
Alice, it couldn't hurt to dust with a fungicide, but the latest thinking is that Black Tip isn't a fungus but rather a reaction to stress, but no one really knows at this point.
Great news, Gordon. Those are energetic babies for sure.
Clare the LL i sent you produces seeds like this..
They will be average to big at first until she gets around 10+ feet then she will produce bigger pods and seeds..
Nice of gordon to share the seeds!
Interesting, Robert! I'm getting out of the seed sowing business, I'm afraid. I have way too many seedlings right now!
Ive been absent rom the forums for a bit.
Kind of hit and miss for a while.
I would have planned to meet you at the Philly Flower show had I read sooner.
Im guessing its today you are there, enjoy!
I wont be able to make it today.
Thanks for the offer.
My situation has changed somewhat due to health and the conversion of my 'basement greenhouse' to a bedroom for son #2.
My ability to care for Plumies has become somewhat restricted.
I do have a friend in Australia who is dying to try some of the Panamanian Giants.
All of mine germinated with great success and size, easily 4 times the regular size and growth rate.
I passed a few onto Lopaka in Fla.
Itll be interesting to see what all develops.
Michael...OH good..You had the joy of some of them ... and they were so cooperative for you..nothing beats experience.. and I'm sure this tree they came from.. had been at it for 100 years..
Yes..I was at the Philly flower show yesterday.. I was in and out on only 5 hours... I wanted to excerise some... just walkingabout is difficult...but to carry ..lift or twist or climb.. I can keep loose.. I was chompping at the bit to reach out and prune a weakor yellow leaf to work it out a bit... but out of 137 billion leaves... I couldn't find a brown/yellow or spotted leaf... perhaps someone had beat me to it..
Get better there... we'll catch you on another trip... I could have delivered..let me knowif you are headding this way..I think there'sanotherfew years in this location SO..pass along to me the address via d-mailof your friend in Australia..and I'll package him a gift.. stuffed w.the wild bunch.. All the best..there..Gordon
Sorry to hear about your health problems, Michael. You take care of yourself!
Gord do you still have a seed or two left?
Mike you gave me seeds?
I don't remember this are you sure because you gave me a seedling i think but i don't think i got seeds from anyone..
Negative on the seeds Lopaka
I sent you 1 or 2 Gordon Hawk Panamanian Giant Seedlings.
I still have 6 lol!!
I thought i was down to 4.
I gave some seedlings to Micah also.
I sent 2 seeds to my Australian buddy.
He sent a really nice mix of plumie seeds to me.
Did I also send you a cutting of MRS Malestrom?
Lol not sure anymore bud...
I get 100 thai plumies a week from thailand now..
I can't find anything lol..
I will look again..