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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
June 26, 2006
11:00 PM Post #2437732
| Any ideas what kind of tree this is? It's growing in the nearby veterans' cemetery (Bay Pines National Cemetery) here in St. Petersburg, Florida. (Zone 9b). I will follow-up with a couple more photos which I will attach to this post (so if you're reading this right after I post it, give me a moment or two to get the other two photos added). Thanks in advance for your help! John 
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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
June 26, 2006
11:00 PM Post #2437737
| Photo #2 
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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
June 26, 2006
11:01 PM Post #2437738
| Photo #3 
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ilima
Clyde/Fines Creek, NC
(Zone 5b)
June 27, 2006
2:25 AM Post #2438121
| Cordia sebestena
[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
ilima |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 27, 2006
7:04 AM Post #2438313
| Very cold sensitive! |
trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
June 27, 2006
8:11 AM Post #2438434
| i can't believe it's even growing in st.pete. even a slight cooling in the Keys and all the leaves would fall. it is a beautiful tree though. there is a hardier white one, boisssieri. |
spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
June 28, 2006
12:18 AM Post #2441985
| Wow. Very interesting about its temperature sensitivity. There were at least two of these trees there, in that section of the cemetery, and both appeared to be very young / recently planted. This is a National cemetery, so I wonder who their landscaper/groundskeeper is, that he/she would suggest/choose such a specimen?
I live two miles from the cemetery. While not each and every year, we experience temperatures down into the upper 20's on not-so-rare occasions. Perhaps the cemetery is a couple of degrees warmer being right along the water (Boca Ciega Bay, along the Intracoastal Waterway from the Gulf of Mexico), but this is very curious.
I will be sure to check on these trees this winter!
Thanks, everyone!
John
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DonnaB
Vancleave, MS
(Zone 8b)
June 28, 2006
11:48 AM Post #2443151
| wow harvest us some seed please lol |
Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)
January 9, 2007
10:20 AM Post #3067853
| Wondering how is this tree doing !! |
spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 10, 2007
8:31 PM Post #3072679
| Hmm, not sure. I'll have to go check it out. It's at a cemetery not far from here and I go there fairly often to fulfill headstone photo-requests for people who live far away and post their photo-wants on a website for volunteers to take the photos. Next time I'm over there I'll check on the tree (or trees, rather, since there were a few of them).
John
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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 15, 2007
9:11 PM Post #3088014
| Yesterday I was at the cemetery where these trees are planted, and there are definitely at least two of them still alive and looking just fine. I'd meant to go to the other side of the cemetery, where I'd previously seen two more, but I forgot to do this before I left. But I'm sure they're fine, also. The two I looked at were perfectly healthy, although still very small (about my height).
Then again, we have not had a severe cold snap this winter yet. I think the coldest it has gone this season is just barely into the upper 30's if not merely the low 40's. (In fact, I just went to the NOAA official weather site, and it says December 2006 was the 2nd warmest December for our area since record-taking began in 1890!) (The warmest was in 1931).
We'll have to wait & see what happens to them after we get some colder weather.
John
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Allison_FL
Dunedin, FL
(Zone 10b)
January 15, 2007
10:02 PM Post #3088208
| The morning news Life Around the Bay ! Chanell 10 said we were the warmest in the Country today ! We have been in the 80's past few days ! Makes it really nice for plant growing ! Thanks for the up-date John !
Now where and how are we going to get some seeds ? |
trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 16, 2007
8:05 AM Post #3089000
| i think, i'm not sure, that the lowest reading i remember in the keys was 38 and it only lasted an evening/morning. the geigers lost leaves but it did not kill them by any means. however, because central florida can get killing freezes every so often, i would be very hesitant to plant one of these unless i was able to protect it in an enclosed area. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 16, 2007
8:29 PM Post #3091266
| I would LOVE to try growing this tree from seed as a container plant! Anyone have any idea if that would work? I could drag it inside like I have to do MANY other plants when we get real cold weather, or freezes, which does happen occasionally here in East Central Fla. I'm also curiousoes if it were grown in a container, could it be pruned/topped off to keep it at a reasonable size?
Lin |
jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 16, 2007
8:32 PM Post #3091273
| Hi Lin,
I'd be interested in that also. What's 1 or 2 more plants to haul inside. Oh, to be in zone 11 right now sounds like heaven.
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plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 16, 2007
8:48 PM Post #3091326
| Hey Jeri: You are in zone 8b ... what kind of weather are y'all having? We had a couple of cold nights around Thanksgiving with lows @ 40 degrees ... but now it's back to 80, 81 during the day and mid to high 60's at night! I'm not complaining at all! I'm hoping we get by with no cold winter weather this year! I've dragged plants inside and back outside three times and that's enough! I moved my @ dozen orchids back out yesterday!
Yeah, I could handle living in Zone 11.
Lin |
trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 16, 2007
9:23 PM Post #3091427
| you can prune them. i tried to kill one by whacking it (got tired of the bugs). it was about 12' at the time and i took a saw and cut it straight across at about 5'. i thought it would make a good post for tying other plants to. hah, the next year it was back to 12' and growing. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 16, 2007
10:21 PM Post #3091659
| Wow! Trackinsand ... you are in the same zone as me ... just across the state aways! And, you say that tree got to 12' tall in your yard? What kind of bugs did it have?
It's just such a pretty tree, I may just have to try and find a source for a small tree to buy, or the seeds!
Lin |
trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 16, 2007
10:24 PM Post #3091665
| oops, sorry to steer you wrong. i had it when i lived in the keys. not here. i wouldn't chance it this far north myself. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 17, 2007
12:05 AM Post #3092077
| That's what I was wondering, I thought you meant you had it in your yard now in Umatilla! It's a shame that it won't grow this far north. I still think I might like to try it as a container plant, bringing it inside in the winter. It would probably suffer some stress having to drag it inside when we had really cold temp's. Actually, it might not even like the cooler temp's of 50's or 60's! I will be giving it some thought.
Lin |
trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 17, 2007
9:15 AM Post #3092721
| my Southern Living Garden book says it will grow in zone 9 with protection. i have doubts after what little i know of it growing in the keys. good luck if you decide to try it! if anyone is travelling down that way (dade or monroe county), they are available at any of the nurseries. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 17, 2007
9:41 AM Post #3092821
| Thanks Trackinsand, I go down to visit my Sister in Broward County often ... will have to check out some nurseries next time I'm down that way. Another plant I want to get down there to try in a container is 'Mousseana' (don't know the correct spelling) but I love that plant too.
Lin |
jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 17, 2007
10:04 AM Post #3092904
| Hi Lin,
We had been around 75 during the days and 55-60 at night until Monday. Tuesday was 20 degrees colder and today is Brrr.
Remember me if you find this plant. I would gladly send you the money for it and postage.
Jeri |
trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 17, 2007
10:15 AM Post #3092927
| lin, here's a link to what you're looking for. i had several species in the keys. i think the air and the ground was too salty for them there, because i had trouble with them all, even though they were potted. when in bloom, they are spectacular. [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com] |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 17, 2007
11:15 AM Post #3093128
| Thanks for that link! My Sister's husband planted a couple in their yard and they got huge. I might see if I can take a cutting or two from theirs next time I visit and try rooting them!
Lin |
spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
March 10, 2007
11:21 PM Post #3269712
| For those interested in the earlier discussion in this thread...
I was at the cemetery today where these small trees are located, and they seem to have weathered the winter just fine! I saw at least 3 or the 5 trees, and they all still had green leaves and were normal/healthy looking.
According to one weather site I checked, we had a low of 35 on Feb 17th and 36 on Feb 19th. I couldn't find stats for January.
John
(spaceman_spiff)
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claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)
March 10, 2007
11:39 PM Post #3269742
| Here's a climate summary for January '07 for Tampa. I don't know how far your tree is from there, but the lowest temp they recorded was 39F on January 29th and 30th.
[HYPERLINK@www.weather.gov]
Well, the first link wouldn't work, see if the form comes up and you can retrieve the month or day...
okay, this is working... click on monthly, and archived, and select the month you want
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trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
March 11, 2007
8:49 AM Post #3270170
| that's very interesting and good to know. we had two light freezes in february. i know we got colder than tampa. i'm going to check out the link that claypa provided and see if i can find stats for our area.
plantlady, i see i never did answer your question on the bugs. these trees get Geiger beetles, specific to this tree as far as i know. i don't know if the beetles live as far north as tampa. they are smaller than Japanese beetles, but metallic and probably related in a distant way. from what i read when i lived in the keys, the more trees you had, the more your chances of getting them. i only had the one and it was covered every year. it doesn't kill the tree, just makes it really ratty looking. |
spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
August 24, 2007
7:54 PM Post #3896782
| UPDATE from above: The trees in question are thriving right along!
:-)
Took the attached shot today, as well as the one immediately following.
John
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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
August 24, 2007
7:54 PM Post #3896783
| 2nd shot from today.
John
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trackinsand
Umatilla, FL
(Zone 9a)
August 25, 2007
9:48 AM Post #3898414
| i am so tempted to try one here now. thanks for the update! |
spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 12, 2008
8:14 PM Post #4393130
| Well, time for an update on these trees for the folks who've been following their progress and whether they can stand the temps in the Tampa Bay area...
Looks like they got pretty well zapped in the cold snap we had a week or so ago. (I think it was last Tues. night and Wed. night, the early mornings of Jan. 2 and 3). Anyway, when I left my house to go to work on the morning of the 2nd, it was 32 degrees at my house, and according to local news reports, the wind chill factor brought it town into the teens.
The national cemetery where these trees are located is only about 2 miles from my house, so it was probably the same temperature there.
Here is a shot of the same tree from the Aug 24, 07 post, above. This photo was taken today.
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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 12, 2008
8:14 PM Post #4393132
| From what I've seen, it looks like there are a total of four of these trees in this cemetery. Here's one of the other ones.
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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 12, 2008
8:15 PM Post #4393136
| And here's another.
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spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 12, 2008
8:16 PM Post #4393139
| ...so, it doesn't look like they've fared very well. The largest tree, shown in my first Jan 12, 08 post above, still had some green leaves attached and didn't look as bad as the others. (This shot is from one of the two smaller trees). Time will tell whether they rebound from the damage.
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lauraroxie
Saint Petersburg, FL
July 19, 2008
5:06 PM Post #5286626
| hmm, maybe i'll go look soon. Some of my plants looked terrible in the freeze, but came back. I was told by a local nursery that the City of st. pete is starting to plant them. |
spaceman_spiff
Saint Petersburg, FL
(Zone 9b)
August 15, 2008
12:44 AM Post #5416429
| I forgot about this thread. Thanks for reminding me about these trees. Actually, I've been there many times this summer and the trees all seemed to spring back to life. They all had nice green leaves. But they didn't seem any bigger than they were last year...so either they're slow-growing, or the cold last winter really stunted their growth. |
