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Insect and Spider Identification: SOLVED: Is this a hornet?

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2006
1:32 AM

Post #2483814

It has a scorpion tail!

I spotted it on my Phlox Nicki, there were flies too but I didn't realise the fly at the tip was glued on with a spider's web!

It landed on the leaf, then went under it and was eating a dead fly. I have read that wasps take insects back to the nest and eat them, regorging them to feed their young, although the adults are vegetarian. I have not found a wasp that has this type of tail.

It took no notice of me, I managed to get a few good close up shots.

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2006
1:34 AM

Post #2483820

The underneath, it having it's meal of fly soup.

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paalexan
Las Cruces, NM

July 9, 2006
1:55 AM

Post #2483883

Scorpionfly, genus Panorpa. Weird little critters, not closely related to either hornets or flies (despite the name). This one is a male; the females lack the scorpion-like bit on the end that gave these guys their name.

Patrick Alexander
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2006
2:37 AM

Post #2484068

Thank you!

Would you say it's a Panorpa communis?

Just look at that pecker, more of a beak!

http://insektenfotos.de/insects_neuroptera_to_mecoptera.htm

Are these a rare 'creature'?

Thanks again!
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2006
2:57 AM

Post #2484191

I found a P. germanica, which is similar but there is less black on the wings.

http://www.nature-diary.co.uk/2005-07-11.htm

I will mark this solved, if anyone else should wish to give any more information on the habits of this creature please do.
paalexan
Las Cruces, NM

July 9, 2006
4:21 AM

Post #2484493

Panorpa communis is kinda what I was thinking from dinking around online a bit, but I really don't know anything about the various species of Panorpa. I haven't seen one in the US, but maybe they're more abundant places I haven't visited.

Patrick Alexander

rose318

rose318
(Patti) in Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 9, 2006
4:57 AM

Post #2484592

Here is a nice picture of the Panorpa communis . Amazing little bugger. LOL It looks like it from a old Sci -fi movies.
http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/insecta/mecoptera/panorpidae/panorpa/communis-1mU.jpg


Patti

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2006
11:33 AM

Post #2484887

All Gods creatures...this is a handsome devil. Do they sting?
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2006
12:23 PM

Post #2484953

Patrick, I saw a few google images of others and none other than the germanica came close, they had different bodies.

Patti, nice? Wonderful detail yes! AArrrggghhhhhhhh! I think a new sci-fi movie would do well with this one! Can you see people glued to the leaves like those flies, with this enormous creature having a feast?

podster, handsome? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! They look to have a pincer arangement on the tail end, this pic shows it more clearly (I did say I got few!)

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rose318

rose318
(Patti) in Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 9, 2006
3:47 PM

Post #2485528

Well I think he pretty awesome. I have never seen one before until now.
Wallaby you need to find a movie producers , and have him use your idea and make millions. LOL
Patti
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2006
4:04 PM

Post #2485610

Patti, he is awesome, fearsome, unbelievable, but so REAL!

Now I have gone public with the idea I don't think I would make anything! Perhaps I need to develop my story telling skills and hand over the whole script? Well, it's not such a silly idea...

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