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justdeb
Birmingham, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 22, 2006
10:57 PM

Post #2535637

When I started my seeds this past spring, I think some geraniums managed to get mixed in with my impatiens. I've not grown geraniums before, and I do recall getting some seeds from a friend. I have about 8 of these, various sizes, and as they've gotten larger, it's obvious even to me that they aren't my impatiens. They are in a very heavily shaded bed. What should I do to save these plants? I'm not opposed to digging them up and potting them, but in this heat I'm not sure which is more damaging, no sun or transplanting. Any suggestions would be appreciated. :-)

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beaker_ch
Columbia Heights, MN
(Zone 4a)

July 23, 2006
12:02 AM

Post #2535779

Do you know what kind of geraniums these are? Anyway, they look like a zonal, so go ahead and pot them up. They're pretty tough and should take to being moved OK. Use a good potting soil like Miracle Grow. Their water requirements are about opposite of impatients. They like full sun and to dry out between watering. In fact, stressing them a bit (keeping dry) will make them flower more. They can be overwintered indoors very easily.

I wouldn't put them in full sun immediately. Gradually move the pots to more and more sun over about a week or so. Just like when you put plants out in the spring, they need to get use to their new environment.
justdeb
Birmingham, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 23, 2006
12:48 AM

Post #2535935

what type? oops. There is more than one? ;-)
I have no idea and since they've never bloomed (between the shade and the special 30 minute shower I give them every night with their impatiens...) I've got just the pot for 2-3 of them (how big do these get?). I'll go and rescue them now. It's pretty cool, we've had a good bit of rain today and the temp dropped from the high 90's to mid 70's. Can't imagine a better time to minimize the shock. Some are much larger than others. I have one that was marked as a hollyhock, and now I'm not so sure about it either. I'll see if I can get a pic. We tried a cheap walmart portable greenhouse. One swift wind and everything went crashing, along with their labels...Those that survived I took my best guess. LOL
beaker_ch
Columbia Heights, MN
(Zone 4a)

July 23, 2006
1:28 AM

Post #2536082

Hum..I just looked at your pic again. Are you sure it's a geranium? It might be a hollyhock.
justdeb
Birmingham, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 23, 2006
4:53 AM

Post #2536834

LOL
I am clueless as to what it is. I just thought geranium for some reason. Would it help to get a close up picture of some leaves?
Anyway, whatever they are, 3 have been moved to seperate pots where they have hope of seeing the sun on occasion. :-)
DanceyTx
Midway, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 26, 2006
10:07 AM

Post #2549487

I bet it is a hollyhock. I looked at the picture several times.
justdeb
Birmingham, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2006
7:37 PM

Post #2551545

really? Well, they survived the transplant and the largest one (the one in the picture) has a bud forming. This will definately help to identify. Watch it be weeds! LOL that's just the kind of thing that I'd do...
:-)
DanceyTx
Midway, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 26, 2006
8:20 PM

Post #2551685

Well it will be a surprise! lol You'll have to post a pick when it blooms. ;) I'm really curious now.
Lin
kathy_ann
Judsonia, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2006
10:53 PM

Post #2552241

That one lone plant? looks like the zebrina malva miniature hollyhock to me.

Better move it, if it flowers, it will reseed everywhere, they are beautiful plants, but need lots of room LOL
justdeb
Birmingham, AL
(Zone 7b)

August 14, 2006
3:55 AM

Post #2619972

It flowered...geranium it is (I think).

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Weezingreens
Seward, AK
(Zone 3b)


August 14, 2006
4:04 AM

Post #2619994

It certainly looks like pelargonium to me. These are often called geranium, and they are in the geranium family. True geranium are the hardy cranesbill. That may be where the confusion is taking place. That's a beautiful pelargonium. I love the smell of their leaves... sort of funky!
justdeb
Birmingham, AL
(Zone 7b)

August 14, 2006
4:56 AM

Post #2620142

So, what is a pelargonium? :-)
They do have a spice smell to the leaves. It is strange that you mentioned that.
Weezingreens
Seward, AK
(Zone 3b)


August 14, 2006
4:56 PM

Post #2621407

Plants are technically identified by a family tree that, for the most part, starts with the Family...in this case Geraniaceae, then the Genus...in this case Pelargonium, then the Species or Cultivar. Though these lovely 'geraniums' are in the Geranium family, they are not technically considered Geraniums, though most people call them that.

Here is the listing in the Plantfiles for Geranium: http://davesgarden.com/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=geranium&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

Here is the listing in the Plantfiles for Pelargonium: http://davesgarden.com/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=pelargonium&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

True geranium are the hardy type often referred to as 'cranesbill' or 'hardy geranium'. They share a Family with pelargonium, but not a Genus. Most climates and areas have native geranium. Up here it is Geranium erianthum: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/38334/index.html

As you can see, many hardy cranesbill can survive cold winters, whereas the pelargonium do not and are usually treated as an annual. Both are beautiful and both have a place in my gardens.

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