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tango88 Tomball, TX
August 14, 2006 01:15 AM Post #2620168
| Bet you don't get a lot of that here. Hello, I am a regular on Dave's Concrete & Hypertufa Forum, but thought I'd venture over here just in case there are any other concrete sculptors lurking about.. While I execute a variety of techniques, my mainstay is an old & almost lost artform known as Faux Bois. French for "false wood".
Here are a couple of pix and you can find more than you ever wanted to know about cement, concrete & hypertufa on my new website...www.thegardenartforum.com
The first is a close up of part of a table set I recently completed for a local client. They liked it so much, they commissioned a large (9 foot) bench for the front of their house. It is still in the working stages, but nearing completion. I am also posting tutorials on working in the above media on my website for anyone so inclined.
My Best to All --- Tango Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tango88 Tomball, TX
August 14, 2006 01:16 AM Post #2620169
| ...and here's the whole set...  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tango88 Tomball, TX
August 14, 2006 01:19 AM Post #2620173
| ...and a view of the bench in progress...
Lots of other stuff, but this should at least determine if there is any interest in faking wood out of concrete. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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grampapa Wheatfield, NY (Zone 6a)
August 14, 2006 07:24 AM Post #2620445
| Tango, that's amazing! Never mind being interested in seeing it here at Dave's. If I lived closer to you, I'd be interested in seeing it on my patio! Great work!
gram |
nap Depew, NY (Zone 6a)
August 14, 2006 07:53 AM Post #2620495
| Yes, that is incredible, and I absolutely love it! It looks BETTER than wood!
What a remarkable idea. You're very good at this. Tell us how long you've done it, and where the idea originated, please. |
darius So.Appalachian Mtns, VA (Zone 5b)
August 14, 2006 09:34 AM Post #2620734
| Love it! (and bet the termited do not!) |
crowellli Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
August 14, 2006 10:14 AM Post #2620874
| I saw a television documentary on this sometime in the past year or so. It detailed a man who spent his life doing this kind of sculpting and one of his sons went into the business with him and continued the work when his father died. Some of the work done was really amazing. For the life of me I can't remember the man's name, only that he was Hispanic. I believe he was here in Texas. I love your work. It's amazing how natural looking it is. Thanks for posting the pics. |
GD_Rankin San Antonio, TX (Zone 9a)
August 14, 2006 10:43 AM Post #2620966
| Great work Tango . . . I've seen some of this in person and really enjoy and admire it a lot. Nearly a lost art indeed.
Thanks for share'n. |
aprilwillis Missouri City, TX (Zone 9a)
August 14, 2006 01:50 PM Post #2621616
| Wow- I am so amazed at what can be done w/ concrete & even more amazed w/ your talent! Thanks for sharing. |
Mahnot DFW area, TX (Zone 7b)
August 15, 2006 10:18 PM Post #2626706
| Stupefying ! That bench with the curved back is to die for !
This type of outdoor furniture is becoming all the rage, so
your timing is excellent. Wish I could remember the name
of the magazine that just did an article on it. Think I still have
it here somewhere and if I find it, I will let you know.
Thanks for sharing your work with us. |
tango88 Tomball, TX
August 16, 2006 12:35 AM Post #2627585
| Wow...thank you all so much for the kind words. And I can't help but notice all the other Texans here. For whatever reason, Texas was blessed a great deal of this type work 50 to 100 years ago and a lot of it is still around. As you noted, termites tend to steer clear of it and it won't ever rot.
I've been a working artist all my life and got hooked trying to figure out the mysteries of how some of the old-time Faux Bois artists did what they did. Forget it. There is not a single book on the subject. I even did a search of the Library of Congress. Nada. Which just made it all the more intriguing. And the best PhD brains in the cement industry assured me that what I showed them pictures of and described...couldn't be done. That was a little over fifteen years ago. I did so much research that I wound up writing a book that finally covers the history, the artisans and many of their long lost techniques. And like many would be writers, my rough draft is still sitting on the publishers desk. Actually, Martha Stewarts publishers desk. But that's another story. I have just launched a brand new garden craft website called thegardenartforum.com that has a great deal of my research material and techniques on it. I feel like I may have acheived 95% of what some of the best artists ever did, but the remaining 5% keeps me learning & experimenting.
And the best that ever lived was a little fellow by the name of Dionicio Rodrigues. It is his work that graces much of San Antonio and many other cities. His great-nephew is the one still doing this type of work there. His name is Carlos Cortes. A great guy and very talented artist who is without a doubt the best in the world in the Mexican/Spanish style known as "El Trabajo Rustico". The Rustic Work. My work differs from his in that I am fanatical about detail. Often minute detail. Every real artist will always gravitate towards their own style and we each have ours. His link is on my site and there are also a ton of links dedicated to folk artists, eccentrics, outsider art and plain old yard art from all around the world. All in cement-based materials.
Hope this answers a few questions. Its really pretty easy to make some impressive & antique looking pieces if anyone is interested in giving it a try. And considering that there are probably less than a half-dozen artists alive even working in the media & style...it wouldn't be hard to capture a chunk of the market...there's almost no competition...all of the other artists have been dead for a long, long time.
All My Best --- Tango
Oh, and here's a little closeup of part of the bench above I am sculpting the final finish layers now. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Mahnot DFW area, TX (Zone 7b)
August 16, 2006 02:04 AM Post #2627708
| Tango, it looks just like petrified wood, and the detail
is amazing. If it were possible, I would be speechless LOL
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crowellli Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
August 16, 2006 09:22 AM Post #2628121
| Tang, I'm so glad you mentioned Dionicio Rodrigues. That's the name of the Hispanic concrete artist I was trying to remember from the documentary. I'd have worried over that name until I could find it, so it's good you posted that. |
Eufaula Eatonton, GA (Zone 8b)
August 16, 2006 11:39 AM Post #2628579
| Now Im telling you that is something else!! I wouldnt have to worry about my outdoor furniture rotting away in all this humidity because i didnt give it a good preservative coating every 6 months!LOL
Im with the rest, If you were closer I would just have to pay you a serious visit! This is just too cool! |
tango88 Tomball, TX
August 17, 2006 08:29 PM Post #2633187
| Gee folks, thank you all once again. But I guess I owe an apology to Dave. Just got a note regarding "promoting" the new website, so I guess I will have to refrain mentioning it from here on out. Didn't mean to step on any toes, it's just that Faux Bois is a tough subject to find any info on. I know. It took me nearly 15 years to get this far along with it. There's not even a single text in the entire Library of Congress on it.
And Dionicio Rodrigues was indeed both a master craftsman and a bit of a mystik. Wish I had seen the program you mentioned...do you recall any particulars?...network?...program? I know that a young lady by the name of Patsy Light has been working with Carlos Cortes (Dionicios great-nephew) on a biography for the last couple of years, but I still havn't seen it in book form yet. Will have to Google her & see where it stands. Should be interesting, as he was a very prolific but little known artist who accomplished some pretty amazing works.
Anyway, sorry if I offended anyone, that was hardly my intent.
All My Best --- Tango |
blckwolf256 Springville, AL (Zone 7a)
October 28, 2006 02:29 AM Post #2858004
| TANGO
Your work amazes me!!! |
crowellli Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
October 28, 2006 11:08 AM Post #2858702
| Tango, the program I mentioned was on either National Geographic or Discovery channel. As I said, I couldn't remember the artist's name, only that he was hispanic and in Texas, I think San Antonio. It was a wonderful documentary on his work. I'll see if I can dig up a bit more info.
Crow |
katsu Columbus, OH (Zone 6a)
October 28, 2006 11:14 AM Post #2858711
| Wow. That is just amazing. My woodworking husband was also very impressed!
It's beautiful, and I think it's great that you are gathering that knowledge together and working on a book that others can learn from. That is extremely cool.
Lisa |
zenpotter Minneapolis, MN (Zone 4b)
October 29, 2006 03:03 PM Post #2862616
| WOW! |
cach357 Fairhope, AL (Zone 8b)
October 30, 2006 05:20 PM Post #2866258
| I am always in awe of everyone's work here and this is no exception. Absolutely incredible! |
tango88 Tomball, TX
November 11, 2006 12:24 AM Post #2903345
| Thanks to everyone for all the kind words. Been so busy, I lost track of this thread. Sorry about that, but here is an update on the finished piece.
The bench is 9 1/2 feet long and weighs in at about 750 to 800 pounds. The "half-log" seat is actually hollow or it would have been about twice that. Still took a crew of six heavy lifters to set it in the spot it was designed for in front of the clients' house as seen below. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tango88 Tomball, TX
November 11, 2006 12:26 AM Post #2903348
| Here is a shot of the big end of the "log"...  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tango88 Tomball, TX
November 11, 2006 12:28 AM Post #2903350
| And the bottom & back are fully detailed. Maybe the bugs will appreciate it.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tango88 Tomball, TX
November 11, 2006 12:30 AM Post #2903352
| The seat back features what looks like mortise & tenon joints with the legs...  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tango88 Tomball, TX
November 11, 2006 12:34 AM Post #2903356
| ...and all the pieces are secured with sculpted cement "iron spikes", complete with rust. Good news is, just as the fake wood will never rot...the fake spikes will never rust away.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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aprilwillis Missouri City, TX (Zone 9a)
November 11, 2006 05:20 AM Post #2903562
| I saw your work on a different forum and cannot stop being impressed by your work. It's amazing! You're amazing. |
nap Depew, NY (Zone 6a)
November 11, 2006 09:10 PM Post #2905913
| There is no adequate way to say this...your work is simply unbelievable! I am in absolute awe. I have not been so extremely impressed in a very long time. I kneel at your feet.
Congratulations. |
pepper23 KC Metro area, MO (Zone 5b)
November 12, 2006 07:03 AM Post #2906535
| I can't even tell it's concrete. And I was looking really hard too. Great job!! |
tango88 Tomball, TX
November 17, 2006 06:29 PM Post #2923192
| Thank you folks. Sorry to take so long to reply, but my computers' been in the shop for the last week.
The basic techniques for ferrocement Faux Bois are really quite simple and most hobbyists could replicate just about any of the antique French work that sells for such high prices. The sand-free mix I use is quite a bit trickier to manage, but could also be learned by anyone with enough patience.
Thank you all again for the kind words. |
scarediecat Ashland City, TN
December 19, 2008 11:08 AM Post #5907962
| OMG...I love working with concrete but I have NEVER seen it used like this!! My work is simple and plain compared to this but I always knew there was great potential with concrete. I can't wait to begin yet another project! I was planning on making some wood out of clay for the “broken boat” shelves in my bathroom mosaic theme (underwater) but I think I will try the concrete idea instead. I have done some reading on Faux rock making. Is this anything like that? OOOOhhhh...come spring come...come spring come...
 Click the image for an enlarged view.
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katiebear mulege Mexico
December 19, 2008 05:52 PM Post #5909331
| You can search for other postings by Tango88. He can now be found at The Garden Forum.com. They have a lot of interesting postings there.
The Hypotufa and Concrete forum here at Daves has a lot of good info on faux rocks.
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katiebear mulege Mexico
December 19, 2008 05:53 PM Post #5909335
| Correction: It's thegardenartforum.com.
kb |
scarediecat Ashland City, TN
December 19, 2008 09:42 PM Post #5910118
| oh, thanks so much. I had looked for the concrete forum he mentioned earlier but couldn't find it. I did find alot of good things in my hunting though. But I will look again for the concrete section...thanks again |
IndianaGardener
December 20, 2008 01:33 PM Post #5912058
| Excellent work! That would make some great fowl perches. Would keep the nails worn down.
I've done work with cement and hypertufa before, but only casted. Don't know how I would get along with free-form. How do you prevent the concrete from forming a squashed out pancake and keep it workable to hold shape on its own like clay to remain workable?
David |
barrell Tunkhannock, PA
December 21, 2008 11:36 PM Post #5917332
| Can you give us a brief rundown on the process you go through? Very cool. Im looking for a ugly mans head in concrete. |
imapigeon Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA (Zone 9a)
December 22, 2008 01:41 PM Post #5918844
| I could volunteer you my boss's head...LOL!~~~ |
scarediecat Ashland City, TN
December 23, 2008 01:30 PM Post #5922069
| I'm sure your boss would gladly agree to help out...for the cause of course...hehehe |
texasrockgarden Canyon Lake, TX (Zone 8b)
December 23, 2008 10:26 PM Post #5923576
| Tango, Looks good! This is an almost lost art form.
If you can ever get to Junction, Texas, there is an out door setting out in front of Hill's Motel. There is a settee, chairs, bench, table, bird bath, and some little ground pieces. It's very interesting layout. I ask the current owner of the Motel about where he got this stuff. He told me that when his father, who has since passed away, was a young man he had hired a young Mexican to do this work for him.
Your work is excellent. You are quite the artist.
Jerry |