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TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
August 27, 2006
08:47 PM Post #2666120
| I thought that I would share yet another style of art that I grew to love over the years. Since I was so active with several Intertribal groups and made alot of acquaintances thru these organizations, I was shown several methods of beadwork popular with many different native Nations. Although porcupine quills were and still are a popular, traditional form of work, the czech seed bead has become the bead of choice amongst those who live and dance on the powwow circuit. Porcupine quills are beautiful adornments but can be difficult to handle...and not for the faint of heart...or rather, not for me, lol. So I thought that I would share my peyote stitched drumstick and my loom work for the bag. I'll find some of my key chains and hair sticks as soon as I can. :) Hope I can find other folks still working with these wonderful methods.. :) 
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TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
August 27, 2006
08:49 PM Post #2666125
| My peyote stitched drum stick upclose...remember, I'm just a beginner for you more advanced peyote beaders out there, lol... :) 
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GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
August 27, 2006
08:54 PM Post #2666139
| Very nice work TxT . . . I'm gonna have to talk you into do'n some of that fancy beadwork on the flute bag I've been mean'n to make for my NA flute. :)
Thanks for share'n . . . bout time ;)
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
August 27, 2006
08:57 PM Post #2666150
| Love the beadwork!!! I have always loved that kind of work. That would fit right in in my room. |
grampapa
Wheatfield, NY
(Zone 6a)
August 27, 2006
10:21 PM Post #2666481
| it's lovely work. I hope you will have the opportunity to pass this along. these wonderful art forms should not be lost. I hope you can find more pieces to share with us.
gram |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
August 27, 2006
10:34 PM Post #2666522
| lol GD...I can't seem to find my looms that I left back home with my parents. I have about 3 or 4 sizes...real easy to make. I'm really wanting to do some more...we'll talk about that flute bag.. :)
Thanks all for your kind comments, GD...pepper and gram. :) Tho I'm shy about showing my work, I reckon it isn't too bad to let folks take a peek...thanks to the urging of one particularly persistent fellow DG'er...(and you know who you are, lol) :p |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
August 27, 2006
10:45 PM Post #2666638
| TxT, those are beautifully done! I'd love to learn to do that! It's so nice of you to share with us. Please don't be shy! You're very good! |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
August 28, 2006
12:46 AM Post #2666980
| thank ya kindly..nap.. :) I love beading...tho you have to have alot of patience and some kind of wonderful eyesight to see those size 16 to18 seed beads, lol.. :)
Melanie |
renatelynne
Boerne, TX
(Zone 8b)
August 28, 2006
01:24 PM Post #2668201
| I couldn't do that tiny of work... it would drive me crazy! Nice work... thanks for showing us. |
fly_girl
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 8b)
August 29, 2006
01:06 PM Post #2671885
| Very nice TxT!
I, too, think it's great too keep this craft alive, can you explain the quills and the peyote stitch? It's fascinating to me. |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
August 29, 2006
05:46 PM Post #2672719
| TxT...wonderful work! My DD used to do quite a bit of bead work, but she now works full time and has no time to spare. I can't do the small beads...but do use some Pony Beads on my gourds...nothing as nice as yours. Jo |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
August 29, 2006
11:56 PM Post #2674145
| How interesting, roadrunner.. :) Yeah, those tiny size 18's are quite hard to find...I actually found some in Santa Fe, NM once...and was thrilled to finally find some that small...I use to have to order them especially for peyote work. Cut seed beads are much nicer for peyote style...but are usually quite a bit more expensive. I have a fan handle that I would really love to bead..since I have the wing in place...but I just can't seem to ever find the time to get started.
Thanks again for your nice comments, all. I'm not sure why the term "peyote" is applied to this particular style of beading. A traditional person would have to explain it to me again...but it lies somewhere in a type of symbol that was popular on beaded gourds, and other belongings. And of course, the peyote cactus is a very important part of some native ceremonies still performed near my hometown in deep South Texas.
lol Nada...well, ya just have to squint real hard and keep your hands steady.. :) |
Eufaula
Eatonton, GA
(Zone 8b)
September 03, 2006
11:57 AM Post #2687457
| Oh Melanie, just beautiful work! Glad to see another Pow wow gal on board! I make regalia as well as beading! I love to do peyote stitch but that loom weaving makes me crazy!!! Haaa!!! Most of my work is in Seed Beads but I used the larger trade beads for my personal southeastern bag! Here it is showing you that I come from the South and am now living near our "Sacred" Rock Eagle, here in Georgia! 
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Eufaula
Eatonton, GA
(Zone 8b)
September 03, 2006
12:01 PM Post #2687474
| This is a bag I made as a gift! I called it Bear walks on Rainbows! 
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grampapa
Wheatfield, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 03, 2006
12:10 PM Post #2687497
| Eufala, those bags are beautiful. I am fascinated by beadwork! |
fly_girl
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 03, 2006
12:11 PM Post #2687500
| Eufala...lovely! Especially Bear Walks on Rainbows! |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 03, 2006
12:37 PM Post #2687566
| wow eufaula, beautiful work! Hurraaay...another bead gal! lol... Nice to see that you're attending pow wows... :) I sure miss hittin' the "trail"...and all of that fry bread..lol...but work AND a mortgage have had to take the front seat..lol But I still have about 3 shawls...and allll of my pow wow t-shirts..lol. :)
I just found a few more pieces that I had stored away. For the life of me, I can't seem to find any matching sets of beaded earrings...but I'll keep trying. This particular photo just has an odd assortment of things that I made. A few key chains...the 2 with no rings are my real beginners...lol...not alot of detail...the loom work is from an illustration of I believe a Navajo, Zuni or Hopi celestial being...corn perhaps? I can't remember...And then I made some hair sticks when my hair was reeeal long at one time.. (not anymore!) lol...
The second photo shows quill work...which of course was the original style of decorating. I wish that I could say it was my work...but I bought it from a Lakota craftsman at a pow wow on the T'ono O'odham reservation in Tucson. (please forgive me if I butchered that spelling..but its pretty close..lol)
Thanks again, Melanie :)
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TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 03, 2006
12:39 PM Post #2687569
| And the lovely quill dream catcher.. :) 
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Eufaula
Eatonton, GA
(Zone 8b)
September 03, 2006
01:03 PM Post #2687620
| So Pretty!!!!! Hmmm ,Quillwork takes a real craftsperson!!! I would dearly love to learn!
Oh yes and thank you Grampapa and Fly-girl!! |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
September 03, 2006
06:20 PM Post #2688302
| Love them all!! You did a great job! I especially love the quilwork. |
GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 04, 2006
02:05 PM Post #2690655
| I agree with Pepper . . . great work ya'll and thanks for share'n :) |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 04, 2006
02:10 PM Post #2690672
| gracias... :) |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 06, 2006
07:39 AM Post #2696622
| Oh how pretty! Have always wondered about looms for beading. Does anyone have a photo or can you direct me to a web where I could see one? |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 06, 2006
10:49 AM Post #2696990
| aprilwillis...take a look at Crazy Crow Trading Co. which is a company that I always used for my beading supplies. Just google it, it'll come up. I need to get a new loom for myself as well! :)
Melanie |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 07, 2006
12:51 PM Post #2700541
| Thanks- I looked at some other sites last night and saw quite a variance in prices- any suggestions? |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 07, 2006
05:44 PM Post #2701344
| Well...my brother actually made me about 4 of them in different sizes...they seem to be real easy to make...I just don't know the wood sizes...and all of my looms back at my parent's house are MIA...lol Its really just 2 small squares of wood...one for each side...perhaps 5 to 8" wide...with a 1 x 2 nailed on each side sort of like a shoe box. A nail is placed in the outside middle of the wood squares and grooves cut into the top of the squares..so that your string can be attached to the outside nail...and all of the threads run into the groove to the other nail...the grooves there to seperate your thread. I'm terrible at describing this sort of thing...and wish I could find one of my homemade ones to show you...lol
Melanie |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 07, 2006
09:15 PM Post #2701964
| I saw those at Crazy Cow and their prices were pretty reasonable- think I'd be ok w/ any of them at least to start w/. Thanks so much. |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 07, 2006
09:47 PM Post #2702069
| Yeah, I may end up buying one myself...since I can't find any of mine...They have a real nice starter loom too... :)
Melanie |
Eufaula
Eatonton, GA
(Zone 8b)
September 13, 2006
11:05 AM Post #2718889
| hey Y'all , the easiest loom I've ever seen for a novice to make uses a small rectangle hammered together and at opposite ends screw on matching large tine plastic hair combs! You can get these rather large Black combs from Wally world or a beauty supply shop! |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 13, 2006
11:52 PM Post #2721149
| plastic hair combs! What a wonderful idea..! Muuuch better then trying to cut those tiny grooves into the wood for your string.. :p Thanks, Eufaula..!
Melanie :) |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
September 27, 2006
11:32 PM Post #2765414
| Beaders! I work on a loom too. Here's one of my bags. I have the Bead creator program for making patterns.
Pam
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
September 28, 2006
07:09 AM Post #2765870
| Very nice!! |
renatelynne
Boerne, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 28, 2006
12:15 PM Post #2766574
| does that mean if you have a picture that the program will make a template for beads? |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
September 28, 2006
12:32 PM Post #2766634
| Yes, it makes a chart and instructions, Gives you the list of delica colors and you can choose loom, peyote, 2 drop peyote or brick stitches. And of course you can start out with a blank graph and make your own patterns too. There's a newer upgrade than the edition I have with more bells and whistles. Here's the site to tell you more
http://www.beadcreator.com/software.html |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 28, 2006
11:22 PM Post #2768790
| Wow Pam...thats a pretty neat program you have there. I've never seen that before. I've only ever worked free-hand...but can't even begin to imagine what one could come up with with this type of work. Thanks for sharing.. :) |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 29, 2006
07:17 AM Post #2769297
| Pam that's a gorgeous bag! Can I ask what sort of loom you are using? |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
September 29, 2006
08:33 AM Post #2769446
| Mine came with the threaded rod size for seed beads, but we added a rod sized for delica's. I see they have one model set up for delica's now. To change sizes, it's just a matter of using the plastic cable ties to hold the rod in place. I have the 18 x 18" size. I wanted one big enough for any project I might want to tackle - lol.
http://stores.ebay.com/Bead-Looms-Beads-and-more
You'll see the loom link on the left.
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aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 30, 2006
01:26 AM Post #2771944
| Thanks very much! |
GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 30, 2006
01:33 AM Post #2771949
| Very nice work Pam . . . Thanks for share'n :) |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 11, 2006
03:21 PM Post #2807738
| I am new to the artisans forum so just saw this. I love the bead work. |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 11, 2006
04:29 PM Post #2807901
| What type do you do, Zenpotter?
Pam |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 11, 2006
06:14 PM Post #2808214
| I mainly work with peyote. I have made several amulet bags most of which I have given as presents and don't have photos.
Here is what I am doing at the moment with "freeform" peyote.
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woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 11, 2006
06:41 PM Post #2808263
| I just started doing the fringe on this bag. It will have a double row of fringe.
Pam
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aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 12, 2006
09:18 AM Post #2809856
| Oh both of them are lovely. I went out and bought a VERY inexpensive bead loom and am going to try my hand at this- if I ever get to it. So many things to do, some many things I want to do and only 24 hrs in a day! |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 12, 2006
09:46 AM Post #2809916
| Nice work, guys...Sorry, been away for a while with a crazy work schedule and didn't see your posts... :) I've never seen a free-form peyote style, zenpotter...interesting and very pretty. :)
Lovely work, Pam...raven and crows are my favorite birds...nice image ya have there.. :)
lol april...I know what you mean! I guess its good to stay busy...to a degree...but goodness, ya never have time to do the things that really matter to you. I'm really really wanting to get back into my beadwork and drawings..and perhaps with winter coming on...I'll be able to. Gardening during this time of course wanes...so those dark cold days will be able to be used for something else. :) I have a fan that I made some years ago...with a handle that I carved holding an owl wing that I've been wanting to bead for some time. MAYBE I'll be able to get that started this winter. :)
Melanie
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woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 12, 2006
10:01 AM Post #2809944
| Oh, the fan will be lovely beaded. I like crows and ravens too. We have three crows that are daily visitors in the yard. I put bread and meat scraps out for them. We call them Edgar, Allen and Poe - lol |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 12, 2006
10:01 AM Post #2809945
| Melanie, Beading that would be so nice. I can't wait to see it when you have it done.
Woodthrush, You posted while I was typing. I love the names.
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TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 12, 2006
10:11 AM Post #2809972
| lol Pam...wonderful names.. :)
Melanie |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 20, 2006
08:50 AM Post #2834375
| I was hoping that someone could send me a link for some good instruction on peyote stitch- classes are not really available conveniently for me and I would like to try some beading. Thanks in advance! |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 20, 2006
08:58 AM Post #2834394
| This one is fun it has an amination of it as well.
http://www.suzannecooper.com/classroom/flat/flat_class.html
This is helpful as well.
http://home.flash.net/~mjtafoya/projects/odd/odd.htm |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 20, 2006
10:23 AM Post #2834651
| Another here on Michaels site
http://www.michaels.com/art/online/static?page=ihts_peyote |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 20, 2006
10:59 AM Post #2834771
| I keep forgetting about Michaels site.
I have never tried beading the whole row and then pulling the thread through like they show. Have you tried that and does it work? |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 20, 2006
11:20 AM Post #2834830
| I haven't tried peyote yet. I've only used the loom so far. But I have a wonderful book of patterns from Barbara E. Elbe, called Amulet Obsession. I'll be trying it this winter.
http://www.beadedimages.com/info.htm |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 20, 2006
11:42 AM Post #2834889
| Oh thank you! I knew that I could count on you guys! |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 20, 2006
11:44 AM Post #2834892
| That really has some nice designs. I have made several amulet bags and they are fun to do, enjoy.
I suspect that pulling the thread through at the end of a row will make a tangled mess. I might try it and then again probably won't. I hate to untangle thread.
You are welcome, we were typing at the same time and I didn't see your post until I sent mine.
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woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 20, 2006
11:57 AM Post #2834931
| What type of 'thread' do you use? Last spring, I tried the Fireline brand of fishing line. Very fine and flexible. |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 20, 2006
12:00 PM Post #2834941
| I use Nemo. Is the fishing line available in beading stores? |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 20, 2006
12:14 PM Post #2834979
| Wonderful links and got the answers I was looking for. I was on the right track, just needed to see it to believe it- guess I couldn't believe I was doing it right, seemed so unlikely that I would be able to read it and do it! |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 20, 2006
02:05 PM Post #2835342
| I bought the line at Walmart. I bought it after reading about it on several yahoo beading groups. It's called Fireline by Berkley. I bought 4 lb test for the loom - most people recommended 4 or 6 lb test.
Do you work with seed or delica beads? I really like the delica's and such a wide range of shades and finishes to the beads. I want them all! lol |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 20, 2006
02:36 PM Post #2835439
| I work with a wide variety of beads, I don't do traditional work anymore so I don't need uniformity of size. I also don't work on a loom so wonder how the fish line will work with a needle. I will have to google it. |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 20, 2006
11:48 PM Post #2836857
| Be sure to get a good bar of beeswax to coat your thread as well...it makes for an easier way to thread tiny seed beads...especially for peyote stitch. :) |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 21, 2006
08:48 AM Post #2837341
| I agree, beeswax is a must. I had forgotten my beeswax once and tried candle wax, it doesn't work. I have never tried any of the other products to use for the thread. Have any of you? |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 21, 2006
12:16 PM Post #2837825
| nooo...nothing else seems to coat the thread as well as beeswax...some folks even use synthetic sinew as a beading string...but its tougher to work with...plus the thinner threads go thru those hair thin needles for the smaller seed beads... |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 21, 2006
08:49 PM Post #2838874
| Thank you again! I know that I tried to bead on the loom "complete kit"- LOL! no beeswax in their and it was quite frustrating. Figured there was something that I didn't know, some tip or trick you experts would know. |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 24, 2006
12:25 PM Post #2845823
| Hi, my modum died on Saturday. I just installed a new one so I am just dropping in to say hello. |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 24, 2006
12:36 PM Post #2845851
| wb...zen...sorry to hear about your modem. I know what THAT feels like...! :) |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 25, 2006
04:41 PM Post #2849848
| Me too- we had some little glitch and I was w/o internet for a day and 1/2 ; seemed like an eternity! |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 25, 2006
05:58 PM Post #2850041
| It sure does. It pointed out how much time I spend here. |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 25, 2006
07:27 PM Post #2850318
| LOL yeah and boy was I bored w/o it! Felt suddenly like I was isolated. |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 26, 2006
08:06 AM Post #2851823
| Me too, although I am limiting myself to fewer checks during the day and have dropped a few threads that I was just watching not writing in. |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 26, 2006
09:29 AM Post #2852016
| lol zen...I'm doing the same thing...its hard tho..! Especially when you first sign up. I was checking back about every 30 minutes or so...lol, afraid that I would miss something. But work keeps me from checking in too much, lol..which is probably a good thing. Well, work and gardening of course. :)
Melanie |
slcdms
Ripley, MS
October 26, 2006
07:42 PM Post #2853769
| I make peyote stitch braclets with a needle and thread. I love doing peyote but have never tried the loom.
Someone asked about what the peyote meant, I think I remember reading something about being named after the peyote root they carried in the bag made from that stitch, or maybe I dreamed it.
Sandra |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 26, 2006
10:03 PM Post #2854178
| I have never tried it on a loom either. That is an interesting origin for the name. I hope you didn't dream it. |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 27, 2006
12:02 AM Post #2854559
| Yeah, that is sort of what I mentioned in my opening comment about the origins of the peyote stitch. Peyote cactus buttons are still harvested near my house in the brush country of South Texas for Easter time celebrations and private rituals by Native American folks...being a hallucinagenic. I still can't, for the life of me, figure out why this type of stitching is called "peyote stitch"...unless it sort of represents the circle of the peyote cactus...peyote stitching being traditionally round, i.e., fan handles, hair sticks, etc.
Perhaps a traditional person will find this thread and let us know.. :)
Melanie |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 27, 2006
08:31 AM Post #2855110
| A little something for the beaders.
http://www.rings-things.com/Projects/68002-16.htm |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 27, 2006
08:35 AM Post #2855117
| Very cool! |
zenpotter
Minneapolis, MN
(Zone 4b)
October 27, 2006
09:20 AM Post #2855228
| There is several very nice free patterns on this site. Thank you. |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
October 30, 2006
06:59 PM Post #2866574
| Well, I've threaded up the loom and started a new project. I'll post more photo's as I progress.
Pam
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TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
October 30, 2006
09:28 PM Post #2867060
| aww...now ya see...I REALLY need to find all of my looms...or talk my honey into making another one... keep sending those photos, Pam... :)
Melanie |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
November 10, 2006
04:45 PM Post #2902106
| How is your beading project going, Pam? Just curious... :)
Melanie |
woodthrush
Albrightsville, PA
(Zone 4a)
January 16, 2007
12:52 PM Post #3089821
| Hi All
Ebay sales kept me busy through Christmas and then we went to Florida. Just got home on Sun night. Here's my loom project so far. I'll be able to get back to work on it this week. You can see the pattern is starting to come into view. It's kind of a celestial pattern - crescent moon with a bear.
I'll be working the front and back of the bag as one piece and then when it comes off the loom, the sides of the bag will be stitched together.
Pam
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TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 16, 2007
02:25 PM Post #3090189
| Very nice, Pam...I can't wait to see the finished project... :) Thats a nice selection of bead colors too... Thanks for sharing.. :)
Melanie |
cach357
Fairhope, AL
(Zone 8b)
January 16, 2007
05:54 PM Post #3090796
| Wow - that's gorgeous! Can't wait to see to end result.
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 16, 2007
09:01 PM Post #3091352
| Love it! |
