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hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 09, 2006
05:17 PM Post #2706706
| i am learning how to do colored pencil and i have a question...if you are doing a pic that lists the colors listed for that pic...how do those colors listed compare to another brand...is there some sort of conversion color chart so one could still do that pic with any brand and still get close in the color?...thanks ! |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 09, 2006
08:54 PM Post #2707427
| My son does a lot of colored pencil work. It sounds to me like you're referring to a kit, is that right? He works freehand so he makes up the colors as he goes along.
I will see him tomorrow and ask him if he knows of anything like that though. I'll let you know what he says. (But my guess would be 'no') |
hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 09, 2006
11:41 PM Post #2707983
| i appreciate you asking...there are different brands of pencil and within that brand they each have a name...such as peacock green ...or apple green(as an example).and i am wanting to know how they would compare to another brand that may not call it peacock green or apple green as such...sorry i sound so confusing...lol |
GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 10, 2006
08:52 AM Post #2708636
| Hi Hummingbird,
I follow what you are saying and asking, but since I don't use them much and have never gone by any sort of list or chart, I don't know if they have any conversion tables for that. I'm more like NAP's son and just do things by feel and eyeball the colors and mix and match as I go.
Have you looked at their web sites to see if they offer any sort of chart online? Or you may can check with a few art supply stored to see if they can give you the info you need.
I think that once you get familiar with working with them, you will be able to just use your own judgment and select the ones that you like to fill in the area needed. Practice on some scratch paper and get used to blending and matching colors and you will get a feel for what shades and how heavy you want to apply them. You should still be able to do the picture even if you can't find a conversion chart. Keep in mind . . . the picture you are painting/coloring is *yours* and it don't have to match perfectly :)
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nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 10, 2006
09:06 AM Post #2708677
| Well said, GD. I am positive that's what my son's anwer will be.
You should have seen him describing to me the color he just painted his kitchen wall. I would have called it Sage Green. He had to tell me the names of the colors he blended to come up with it, and there was no green at all.
Hummingbird, use your imagination. I think you'll be surprised. |
GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 10, 2006
09:39 AM Post #2708749
| lol Nap . . . I can imagine :)
Indeed . . . that's a huge part of any art project . . . a little imagination goes a long way :) |
hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 10, 2006
12:10 PM Post #2709182
| hmmmm...you all just gave me an idea...you know how sometimes you see color pallets(in books) for oil or watercolor paints?...perhaps i could do that ...work first on some scratch paper like you said...if the color comb works for something...make a little square on good paper to save...fill it in with that combo of color i like...make note beside it of what colors i used to achieve that blend...and write down what brand of pencil it was...over time i could have a nice list for a pallet for colored pencil...thanks everyone...i sure love coming to the forum ...hummingbird
oh and i will also go to their website just to see |
GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 10, 2006
12:40 PM Post #2709255
| Yeah . . . that should help . . . it will also give you a *mental catalog* as you build your list that you will eventually have to work by from memory/experience.
One thing I've noticed about art in general and mixing colors and such . . . is what works for one person may or may not work for the next. That's why I think I find myself experimenting with all sorts of different things and ideas and of course I listen to others as well. Eventually I find what works best for me and/or what I enjoy the most.
The key to the whole thing is that you enjoy it and have fun. The rest will come natural with practice and patience and just sort of fall into place with time :)
Have fun,
GD
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hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 10, 2006
12:43 PM Post #2709261
| cool...thanks so much for your time in answering me...
hummingbird |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 10, 2006
01:46 PM Post #2709418
| One more thing, hummingbird. I just left my son and as predicted he agrees with what GD said. But he also said you may find, like he does, that the two colors he has to replace most often are...black and white. You'll probably want to use them a lot in your blending experiments.
Here's a sample of what colored pencil can do. I have this on my wall. He made it for me.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 10, 2006
02:07 PM Post #2709482
| THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL...yes i know what colored pencil can do as i have some books i have been reading on it ...and the pics in them are awesome...amazing...who'd ever thought they would make such remarkable pics...so i have been gearing up to try my hand at it...i am excited!!
hummingbird |
Mahnot
DFW area, TX
(Zone 7b)
September 10, 2006
02:21 PM Post #2709516
| Hummingbird, there is all kinds of information on drawing,
various materials, and techniques in a book called
The Drawing Bible by Craig Nelson. I think you would
find it very useful.
Nap - Your son is a most talented artist. Those tulips look
better than the ones I see in catalogs. |
hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 10, 2006
02:42 PM Post #2709578
| hmmm that book sounds very familar...i think i have seen it in the north light book club flyer...right now i have been going through ...drawing for dummies and i have a couple books by lee hammond...as well as a few others also on colored pencil...will have to check out the one you mentioned too
hummingbird
as always ...thank you for you time... |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 10, 2006
03:05 PM Post #2709648
| I almost said 'thank you', Mahnot and hummingbird, but that would be silly since the compliment is not for me. I will surely pass your nice words on to him, and he will surely say 'thank you'. |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
September 10, 2006
03:16 PM Post #2709683
| I agree with Mahnot on the tulips. His drawing is better than some of the pics in catalogs. |
GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 10, 2006
09:56 PM Post #2710780
| Indeed . . . very nice work :) Thanks for share'n Nancy :) |
palmbob
Tarzana, CA
(Zone 9b)
 September 11, 2006
12:06 AM Post #2711173
| Here's my attempt at colored pencil... took some time and patience, something I usually don't have, so I guess it's not for me. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 11, 2006
12:31 AM Post #2711222
| very nice!...i dont have any pics to send as i am learning right now...so i will be much too self conscious of being a newbie at it to actually send it for everyone to see...lol...perhaps some day :) |
Mahnot
DFW area, TX
(Zone 7b)
September 11, 2006
12:42 AM Post #2711249
| palmbob - Beautifully done. Very dimensional.
And I love that you have added 2 creatures - the lizard
is so very perfectly camaflogued too. Nice touch. |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
September 11, 2006
07:10 AM Post #2711549
| Great job palmbob!! |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 11, 2006
08:36 PM Post #2713877
| Palmbob, listen to me...it IS for you! That is a terrific picture, and I'm not just trying to be nice about it. It's great, and you should do more pencil work. |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
September 11, 2006
08:37 PM Post #2713884
| Palmbob, you better listen to her!! She's totally right in every way!! |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 11, 2006
10:02 PM Post #2714203
| wow..palmbob...lovely work.. :) You have a definite talent.
I've never really used color pencils...dry pastels, yes...but just always used graphite pencils. Perhaps I should give them a try and start moving into painting still-lifes and landscapes.. :)
Melanie |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 11, 2006
10:42 PM Post #2714395
| I hope you will, Melanie! And I can't wait for the results! |
TxTurqoize
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 11, 2006
10:45 PM Post #2714420
| lol nap...well, ya never know... ;) |
hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 11, 2006
11:58 PM Post #2714644
| i plan/hope to learn colored pencil and move on into painting as well...my grandmother painted and before she passed on she gave me much of her supplies and books..so i would like to try my hand at it...course with working fulltime and taking care of a house and family etc...time is very short
hummingbird |
renatelynne
Boerne, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 12, 2006
11:00 AM Post #2715505
| all VERY nice pictures... wouldn't know they were even hand done with colored pencil if you hadn't said. |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
September 12, 2006
12:18 PM Post #2715802
| This is a GREAT thread! It's wonderful to see these examples.
I have to add, with the others, that Palmbob needs to give pencils a shot. The result you have there is worth the restlessness of waiting to finish it. At least it is for us. ;) |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 13, 2006
08:36 AM Post #2718481
| Wow excellent examples!
Have any of you ever used watercolor pencils? They are fun, certainly don't produce the vibrancy of nap's son's tulips, more soft and muted. |
GD_Rankin
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 13, 2006
11:31 AM Post #2718970
| I agree . . . great job Palmbob . . . hope to see more like that one :) |
palmbob
Tarzana, CA
(Zone 9b)
September 13, 2006
10:48 PM Post #2720947
| Here's another weird colored pencil I did for an art class 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 13, 2006
10:51 PM Post #2720954
| i cant wait to get started!!!! |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
September 14, 2006
02:11 AM Post #2721434
| Poor bear...Kids are cruel. LOL |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
September 14, 2006
07:11 AM Post #2721624
| That's not weird, that's just what kids do sometimes. lol. Great job palmbob!! |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
September 14, 2006
07:38 PM Post #2723872
| Oh, I know...I remember being a kid. LOL |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
September 14, 2006
07:43 PM Post #2723887
| I will always be a kid!! My family, coworkers and former coworkers can attest to that!! LOL |
hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
September 14, 2006
09:49 PM Post #2724305
| that is how we stay young ya know...!!! :) |
aprilwillis
Missouri City, TX
(Zone 9a)
September 15, 2006
07:25 AM Post #2725591
| I had a pin that said "You can only be young once, but you can be immature forever!" Seems to fit me. |
grampapa
Wheatfield, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 15, 2006
10:35 PM Post #2728102
| Nancy, please pass another compliment on to your son. those tulips are so vibrant! absolutely gorgeous. now I want to try colored pencil.
palmbob, yours is amazing. it's no wonder it required more patience than you are willing to give. the detail is exquisite.
gram ~a girl~ |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
September 15, 2006
11:23 PM Post #2728254
| You bet I will, gram! Thanks! |
scarlet777
Lebanon, PA
October 01, 2006
08:36 AM Post #2774971
| Okay maybe you guys don't want me to sy anything, but I cannot help it. It seems that talent is running rampid in this thread and you all need to just grab hold of it and let it fly. My goodness I have not seen such beautiful colored pencil in a long time. This puts my paintings to shame. Your son nap has a lot of talen and I specify alot. I hope that he is working at his given talent. Palmbob and all you others that say you can't or don't have the talent. Well that is just not true. After looking at these pencil drawings I am in awe of what a colored pencil can achieve with the right person behind it. As for hummingbird, well I can only say don't let shades of colors throw your desire to draw, just trust your instincts. Don't limit your choices by one brand get alot of brands and don't read only one book. In fact don't read any books, art comes from the heart. Follow your gut and you will be just great. thanks for listening, hope to talk to you all soon scarlet |
hummingbird_1
Pilot Rock, OR
October 01, 2006
02:14 PM Post #2775923
| thank you so much scarlet for the encouragement...i have many interests...so i am ALWAYS busy with something...i came across colored pencil by accident...i had been reading up on painting...i get alot of my info this way as i cant go to classes...taught myself how to read music this way and got an intrument and can now play it...i wont be cutting any cd's mind you but i can play just the same and it is fun to know i can achieve something if i put my mind to it..anyway i came across the colored pencil books through the book club i am in and ordered a few...was amazed at how gorgeous the pics turn out with them...so i am seriously contemplating on putting the paints aside for awhile...lol...maybe pick that up when i retire...lol...and of course seeing the pics posted here is an encouragement in itself...hummingbird |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
October 01, 2006
07:53 PM Post #2776805
| Those were encouraging, kind words, scarlet777. And you are right about it coming from the heart. You can't 'make' an artist. You have to 'be' one. |
