SOLVED: Invasive vine with red berries

Brockton, MA(Zone 6a)

They are common around here. I think they have small white flowers.
This was shot yesterday.
What's it called, please.
Andy P

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mid central, FL(Zone 9a)

do i see three leaves in the background?

Las Cruces, NM

Looks like Solanum dulcamara...

Patrick

Brockton, MA(Zone 6a)

Here is a bad pic of the leaves. I was in a rush to snap it before it got too dark, lol.
Patrick, the name you gave is what, genus, family ? I can never find anything in PlantFiles.
Andy P

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Las Cruces, NM

Yeah, that's Solanum dulcamara. The name I'm giving is genus and species (i.e., the binomial). The common name depends a bit on who you ask... I'd heard it as bittersweet nightshade, the USDA says it's climbing nightshade. A toxic plant, as you might guess from the name.

Patrick Alexander

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

When people give you a two part name like that where both names sound Latin, it'll almost always be the genus and species. If there's just one name then it's usually the genus, often people will recognize what genus something is in but it can sometimes take longer to figure out the species. Or you can do a General Search in PF and type in the name the way it was given to you, that lets you can search for things even if you don't know which part was genus, species, etc.

Las Cruces, NM

Also worth mentioning that the genus and species are "typically" underlined or italicized. This is to let you know that it's the genus and species, since other names are not underlined or italicized.

The only problem there is that many posters may not know how to italicize (or may not want to bother) in online forums... but I do it. :-)

Similarly, the genus should be capitalized and the species all in lowercase. This, however, is also not always followed.

Patrick Alexander

This message was edited Nov 11, 2006 3:16 PM

Garland, TX(Zone 8a)

I'd like to commend all the Homo sapiens who use proper taxonomical nomenclature! ;-)

Brockton, MA(Zone 6a)

OK, I got it now.
Thanks every one, especially Patrick.
Andy P

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Agree with Bittersweet (Solanum dulcamara)

Resin

PS to create the italics, put [i] before, and [/i] after, except use the triangular brackets (not the square ones as I've put for demonstration)

Las Cruces, NM

"PS to create the italics, put [i] before, and [/i] after, except use the triangular brackets (not the square ones as I've put for demonstration)"

IOW, like this:

<i>Solanum dulcamara</i>

I wasn't sure earlier if I remembered how to get it to show up properly... I guess I do. :-)

Patrick

(PS: typing "&lt;i&gt;" gives "<i>")

Scott County, KY(Zone 5b)

Now, Patrick: surely you also know that you can use the [brackets] for quoting folks...

Quoting:
PS to create the italics, put [i] before, and [/i] after, except use the triangular brackets (not the square ones as I've put for demonstration)

...like Resin.

The rest of the html stuff is gibberish, but I'll take your word for it. I think there's a FAQ somewhere in DG that gives a primer on all this. There certainly is an entertaining thread over on Trees & Shrubs from a while back which goes overboard in depth about quotes, italics, bold type, underline, and plenty of other fun "dress up" stuff ( like ™, ®, and non¢ like that).

Las Cruces, NM

"Now, Patrick: surely you also know that you can use the [brackets] for quoting folks..."

I knew you could do this in other forums, but didn't realize it worked on this one. It's worth mentioning that whenever you use square brackets ([,]) to modify text in an online forum, you are not using html, but instead are using BBCode, which is basically a simplified/bastardized version of html created for use in online forums.

Personally, I despise BBCode...

Patrick Alexander

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Actually BB code is a lot easier to use - you don't need the shift key to enter it, so it's a lot simpler to type. But in this forum it only works for quote tags, not for italics, etc.

Resin

Las Cruces, NM

"Actually BB code is a lot easier to use - you don't need the shift key to enter it, so it's a lot simpler to type."

I can type html far faster than I can type BBCode. In large part, this is simply because I'm used to html, but not to BBCode; with the exception of the rare times I have to use BBCode, I never use square brackets. Then there's the confusion that I now have to remember two separate systems instead of just one. And for those who only get introduced to BBCode... they've spent a little time learning a system with very limited applicability when they could have been getting a head-start on understanding broadly-applicable html.

BBCode just doesn't offer enough simplification to justify the creation of a new system for such a limited context, especially given the confusion it generates. Much of the power of the web is based on standardization, but BBCode is a move towards division, opposed to standardization.

It's perhaps worth mentioning that another argument against just allowing straight html in forums is that html could be used to screw the forum up a bit... however, the commonly used tags in forum discussion have no malicious potential.

Patrick Alexander

Scott County, KY(Zone 5b)

Trying to keep up with the taxonomy changes in scientific plant names is enough for me, thank you very much.

I'll watch from a distance and admire you all that understand the computer codes.

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Andy, the common name I know it by is deadly nightshade...if you have kids, make sure they know not to eat the berries!

Suzy

Bartow, FL(Zone 9a)

I would prefer to see the botanical names in italics, but right now I'm so confused that I don't know where to start. It would be more simple if we could just it Ctrl i before and after the name. More people would understand. How about that Dave???

Garland, TX(Zone 8a)

MotherNature, it's really simple. If you want a phrase to appear like this:

I think the plant is Solanum dulcamara.

Type it like this:

I think the plant is <i>Solanum dulcamara</i>.

Basically, just type the "less than" symbol ( < ), the letter "i" (for italics), and then the "greater than" symbol ( > ). That makes any proceeding text you type italicized. To stop the italics, type the "less than" symbol ( < ), a forward slash ( / ), the letter "i", and the "greater than" symbol ( > ).

Titusville, FL(Zone 9b)

test, test

hmmmmm

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Quoting:
Andy, the common name I know it by is deadly nightshade


That's a different species (Atropa belladonna), with black (not red) berries, and very much more poisonous. Deadly Nightshade is (as its name suggests) lethally poisonous if eaten, whereas Bittersweet is only weakly poisonous (unpleasant stomach ache if you eat some berries, but not death, unless you eat a huge amount)

Resin

Las Cruces, NM

nifty413:

Looks like you forgot the semicolons. In some contexts you don't need them, but in others they're what tells the browser to interpret the preceding characters as a separate unit to interpret as a symbol instead of plain text.

So, just to reiterate:

if you want this: Solanum dulcamara

type this: <i>Solanum dulacamara</i>

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Resin - My mistake. I um, have both that spring up here and there under shrubs and I try not to let them fruit, so it's been a while since I've seen them.

Suzy

Garland, TX(Zone 8a)

Patrick,

Now I'm confused. I don't see any semicolons in your last post. Unless you're talking about how to make the "<i>" post as seen versus "ampersand, lt, semicolon, ampersand, gt"???

Apologies to all the folks not interested in the code stuff, as this has veered off-topic. ;-)

Bartow, FL(Zone 9a)

Thanks for the simplification, Nifty. I'm going to try it out now.
Mother nature

Hooray, I've got it. Thanks so much.

This message was edited Nov 15, 2006 2:40 PM

Las Cruces, NM

"Unless you're talking about how to make the "<i>" post as seen versus "ampersand, lt, semicolon, ampersand, gt"???"

Yup. To get "<i>", you need "&lt;i&gt;", whereas I would guess that earlier you typed "&lt;i&gt".

Patrick

Garland, TX(Zone 8a)

Gotcha, Patrick. I did forget that last semicolon... but does that make it display incorrectly in some browsers - without that end semicolon (I'm using I.E. 7)? Just curious. :-)

Las Cruces, NM

"Gotcha, Patrick. I did forget that last semicolon... but does that make it display incorrectly in some browsers - without that end semicolon (I'm using I.E. 7)? Just curious. :-)"

Yup. On my end (using Firefox 1.5) your right angle-brackets were showing up as "&gt"... although if IE is showing things as you intended, maybe I'm the only one who saw anything odd. *shrug*

Patrick Alexander

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