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ginger749

November 24, 2006
8:18 AM

Post #2940076

*Two Pillars of Hercules*
This is what I call these Two PALMS.
Recently we held my Fathers 80 Birthday here.
More than 120 guests.
They all commented on all the palms.
But these 2 got special mention by every one.
[cuban royal] They are about 35 ft high.

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mcwolf
Cape Town
South Africa

November 25, 2006
8:35 PM

Post #2943500

Looking forward to - planted my first Roystonia Regia a couple of months ago. Openend itīs first leave just now. Never seen this palm in Cape Town before. Letīs see if it can make it through winter. Does anybody know if they grow in San Francisco?
ginger749

November 26, 2006
8:40 AM

Post #2944562

Hi mcwolf.
What are your winters like in CT??
Here in QLD. They last for 2 months and can get down to 0 deg.
Roystonia Regia Grow really swell here As you can see.
There are about 10 around My place.
There is a whole avenue of them at Sanctury Cove. About 200.
mcwolf
Cape Town
South Africa

November 26, 2006
6:20 PM

Post #2945442

Hi Ginger,

sounds good. Since I live very close to the sea I havenīt seen frost here. Iīm more worried about low humidity, mild summer temps and persistent trade winds. Syagrus Romanzoffianas donīt look too good in this climate and so might suffer these palms, too?
osideterry
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 26, 2006
11:08 PM

Post #2946122

Hi McWolf,

I remember you posting a nice photo of your foxtail. If you can grow a foxtail, a royal should be easy. I don't think you could grow either in San Francisco. The most successful palms in the bay area are kentias, kings, parajubaeas, and ceroxylons. My area is known for low humidity and mild summers also. I originally planted my royal in a shady area without wind protection. It got down to two brown leaves. I replanted it in full sun, and my house as wind protection. It has put on three new full leaves and a new spear.

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ginger749

November 27, 2006
5:49 PM

Post #2947994

One of The monsters.

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mcwolf
Cape Town
South Africa

November 27, 2006
9:08 PM

Post #2948518

I planted my baby Royal in full sun and it got terribly sunburned. There was only the spear left which openend recently. It seems that this one might also get burned. Wind protection isnīt great eather but itīs a warm and sunny spot in the garden. Parajubaeas and Ceroxylons are not available here yet but would be also a good thing to try.
osideterry
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 27, 2006
10:34 PM

Post #2948759

My royal was 12 ft tall and extremely rootbound in an 8 gallon pot when I bought it. After 2+ years it is just starting to show a trunk. A baby might need to spend a couple of years in a pot in part sun with wind protection before being committed to a spot in the ground. If I were you I would repot the thing until it's rootbound, and then try it in the ground again.
ginger749

November 27, 2006
10:47 PM

Post #2948799

All I can say is keep trying till you succeed.
They are worth the effort,
Every visitor or artist friend, who come here and sees them,
Either want to photograph or Paint them. I’m very proud of my Palms.
One of them has just set seed. Could be grand parents soon. LOL
Don_L
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
(Zone 10a)

November 28, 2006
6:45 AM

Post #2949750

Mcwolf,

Sounds like your royal was green house grown and was not acclimated to the sun which is the only way you can sun burn these. Any new leaves that open in already full sun conditions should not burn. In fact once they have been acclimated, it is next to impossible to sun burn royals. Do you have a picture of your royal that you can post? The more heat and direct sun they get the better they do provided you also give them plenty of water since they are very thirsty palms. Dry winds and lack of humidity can make the leaves look pretty ragged but usually in spring once they are established they replace the ragged leaves by end summer. Don't give up however because they should do well in your area but best to give them some wind protection if possible.

Ginger,

How long ago were your royals planted, they look very nice? How often do you get down to 0 degrees and what's the coldest temps that you get because when we were there last year I saw a number of cocos nucifera by gold coast?
ginger749

November 28, 2006
7:13 AM

Post #2949758

Don_L.
It’s only in the last 5 years I have kept track of everything I buy and plant.
Before that I had a relative in the Nursery Business.
Just got whatever took my fancy.
The Cuban Royals would be between 11 and 13 years in the ground.
They would have been 2 years in the pot when I got them.
About the 'coldest temps ' 3 Frosty mornings this year.
It only affects grass on front lawn.
Think I`ve answered all your questions.
Oh yeah, there are lots of coconut palms along GC
TropiSocal_dave
Garden Grove, CA
(Zone 10a)

November 29, 2006
4:05 AM

Post #2952412

Has anyone tried growing Roystonea oleacea, the Cuban's brother?

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ginger749

November 29, 2006
7:27 AM

Post #2952527

Are you sure thats how its spelt.
I can only find 'Roystonea oleracea '
But no pics.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2006
2:20 PM

Post #2953081

Roystonea oleracea is by far the most impressive and ornamental Roystonea... but also the most cold sensitive. Where I live now, in zone 9b-10a it's hopeless. The other Roystoneas seem to do pretty well here, but are on the marginal side and prone to sudden death in a really cold year.
osideterry
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 29, 2006
3:15 PM

Post #2953219

I've seen impressive mature royals in Fallbrook at South Coast Palms and JD Anderson Nursery. I think Anderson's is a R. borinquena, and the South Coast one might be the Venezuelan type.
WebInt
Vista, CA
(Zone 10a)

November 29, 2006
5:57 PM

Post #2953534

The R. borinquena at JDAN is in a great microclimate. Sandy hillside with open air to keep the chill away. If you look at the other R. borinquena's that were palnted at the same time there, they are all much smaller and look nothing like the one you see in pictures all the time at JDAN. They were planted maybe only 25 - 50 meters away too!
ginger749

November 29, 2006
8:08 PM

Post #2953859

Any one have a pic of this *'Roystonea oleracea '* ??

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 30, 2006
1:34 AM

Post #2954736

See the palm in the Plantfiles (no idea how to do the hyperlink thing, but just look it up and you will see plenty of wonderful photos of this palm).
ginger749

November 30, 2006
5:25 AM

Post #2955207

Unexpected Visitor to my garden.
At the base of POH.

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WebInt
Vista, CA
(Zone 10a)

November 30, 2006
5:27 AM

Post #2955209

Sankes always freak me out. But they are important. Looks like yours ate a rat or something.
TropiSocal_dave
Garden Grove, CA
(Zone 10a)

November 30, 2006
5:31 AM

Post #2955213

I am jealous, you have palms and pythons on your property. I love snakes and lizards second to palms. Looks like a Carpet python which just ate a meal. Hopefully your not missing a kitten.
ginger749

November 30, 2006
5:35 AM

Post #2955217

A prize hen from next door.

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