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4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

December 19, 2006
3:10 PM

Post #3011106

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/678860/

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

December 21, 2006
12:53 PM

Post #3016168

If you plant them right, no need for supports.
Bernie

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

December 21, 2006
12:55 PM

Post #3016174

From another thread.
A couple of things. If you don't want to mess around staking, plant deep. We have a machine that makes 4 rows at a time. It makes furrows 8 to 10 inches deep. All our glad bulbs are planted that deep. Then we cover about half way. After they poke through, we cultivate & the rest of the furrow fills. Buries any sprouting weeds, too. After the plants are about 18" tall, we again cultivate & then use a hiller to put about a 6" hill on the row. They do not tip over!
Somewhere they mentioned cutting, we cut about 5" above the soil. We are looking for long stems.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

December 21, 2006
4:16 PM

Post #3016646

Thank you, Bernie.
I will do it just as you say.
:-)
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

December 31, 2006
2:47 AM

Post #3037984

Just read this and I am not sure I understand, but I like the idea of not staking...LOL Laura, can you draw me a picture? LOL Am I understanding you dig down 8-10 inches, plant the corms, cover in about 4-5 inches, wait till they sprout, then cover the rest of the way another 4-5 inches, and when they are18" tall you put another 6inches of soil over the bottoms? Is that right? WOW!

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

December 31, 2006
2:50 AM

Post #3037991

Right.
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

December 31, 2006
2:55 AM

Post #3037999

Wow, like I said. That is a lot of work unless you have the machinery I would think. I don't have machinery...but I will see what I can do to improvise, or perhaps I can rent one and get someone to help me with that! I would certainly save a lot of time and trouble! I have lots of glads to get into the ground, right, Laura! LOL...of course I may be doing them one at a time too...could take a while, but it would make the blooming season longer...LOL!!! Thanks for the info Countrygardens!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2006
4:40 PM

Post #3039007

Yes, Janet, you definately have a few glads to plant; 305 to be exact. :-) I only have 150, three times what I'd planned to plant, and 49 lilies, 100% more than I was considering when the coop opened. :-)

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

December 31, 2006
6:21 PM

Post #3039292

What coop ?
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2006
6:36 PM

Post #3039334

We did a 3875 bulb co-op for glads (2600) and lilies (1275) from Blooming Bulb. They had a sale going until November 30.

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

December 31, 2006
8:20 PM

Post #3039710

How much did you pay for the glads ?
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2006
8:33 PM

Post #3039752

26 cents each, free shipping to me.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2006
8:37 PM

Post #3039760

Here's a link to their glad page.
http://www.bloomingbulb.com/CartBulbs.asp?Category=4&

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

December 31, 2006
8:52 PM

Post #3039808

I can get them for you in spring for roughly 8 per bulb. Only catch is 500 of a color is minimum. If you are sending to numerous people it wouldn't make any difference.
I checked Blooming Bulb link. Did you order 500 of a color to get that price?
Bernie
dmj1218
west Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2006
8:57 PM

Post #3039821

Are you selling them CountryGardens?
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

December 31, 2006
9:05 PM

Post #3039844

No, we got the 100 price; they were on sale at the time for 26 cents each.

500 is a lot of one color, but 8 cents is a good price! The most we managed was 195 of Plum Tart. We ordered 18 different colors of glads, and 26 different lilies, three at the 100 price, some at the 15, most at 25 or 50. Lilies were on sale as well.

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

December 31, 2006
9:24 PM

Post #3039916

No I'm not selling. Just have this place I buy from, it's not on the internet, plus wholesale only.
Bernie
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 5, 2007
2:15 AM

Post #3054306

I wish I was ten of me!!! LOL...I would just plant glads in every crook and cranny and have them blooming all summer..LOL...I love them!!!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 5, 2007
2:40 AM

Post #3054379

But if there were ten of you, then you'd each want the same amount of glads, and so...you'd need 100 of you...and then...lol
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 5, 2007
2:55 AM

Post #3054455

TRUE...guess God knew I should only be one...lol

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 5, 2007
3:32 AM

Post #3054580

Move up here, you can help me. I plant around 15,000.
Bernie
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 5, 2007
3:35 AM

Post #3054590

WOW!!! Sounds beautiful!!!

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 5, 2007
4:43 AM

Post #3054712

Here's work.

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

January 5, 2007
1:51 PM

Post #3055255

Bernie, what is it hanging up to dry?
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 5, 2007
3:05 PM

Post #3055414

Hope you have some help!

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 5, 2007
7:11 PM

Post #3056113

Hot pepper plants that we cut before it froze.
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

January 5, 2007
7:32 PM

Post #3056184

Thanks bernie. I took mine off the plants, they dry up inside in a box. I grow Georgia Flame, not sure if I will use them though! If you get insect bites, rub the inside of a pepper on them, good for eczema too or any swelling.

Your glad bulbs look healthy.

JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 5, 2007
9:14 PM

Post #3056523

Does your supplier sell anything other than glads? Also, I would love to see pictures of your thousands in bloom, do you have photos of them?

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 6, 2007
1:34 AM

Post #3057243

Well, of course.
Don't get a lot of color because they are cut for sale when just barely open. We cut 3x a week.

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JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 6, 2007
2:24 AM

Post #3057374

That is just awesome...how many hours of sunlight do you think they need to bloom well? I have a couple of spots that get partial sunlight, maybe three or four hours a day that I would love to line some up along the back side of these beds...maybe some of the darker ones since the color stays better and won't bleach out as much in partial sun...what do you think?

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 6, 2007
3:00 AM

Post #3057490

I don't know, but we get longer days than you do in summer. Daylight here from 5 AM to 9:30 PM until August.
This bunch was planted June 6 & between buildings where light is restricted.

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JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 6, 2007
3:29 AM

Post #3057581

Well, I think I will give it a try anyway...if they don't do great I can always move them...lol thanks for the pics I love the way your rows look so nice, and they are all standing...great way to plant them!!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2007
4:07 AM

Post #3057705

It would be great if they did well in partial sun - mine are going to try, anyway.
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 6, 2007
1:56 PM

Post #3058317

I have some that actually growing "under" some forsythia bushes and they bloom quite well, so I am going for it too! LOL They still get a lot of sun, just not eight hours...
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

January 6, 2007
2:30 PM

Post #3058385

Who gets 8 hours of sun a day? We have long summer days like Bernie, but not the heat or hours of sunshine as a rule, though 2006 was an exception.

Glads have grown well on the west side in mostly shade, the neighbour had some there, and some returned for a while but they weren't dug up. Go for it!
dmj1218
west Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2007
3:04 PM

Post #3058455

We get 8 hrs of sun a day even in winter--its about 7:30am to about 5:30pm now--that is amended to add if the sun even shines at all (which is rare this winter). Let's rephrase that to: I have enough light for this Ipheion 'Alberto Castillo' to bloom today...

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dmj1218
west Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2007
3:06 PM

Post #3058458

But not enough light for this Oxalis lobata that really wants to bloom to bloom... =(

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4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2007
3:17 PM

Post #3058497

So how much water do glads need?
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

January 6, 2007
3:44 PM

Post #3058596

Deb, my Ipheon Wisley Blue is in flower too, has been for a while. They must like it dull!

4paws, I think the water question is like asking how long is a piece of string. So much depends on temperatures, soil types etc, but I think they like to be dry while dormant, average moisture when in growth. Most bulbs or corms cope fairly well with some dryness, the corms are a sort of storage organ.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2007
4:22 PM

Post #3058730

Yes, I understand that, wallaby, but you did answer my question. It's not dry here when they are dormant, but I have excellent soil and drainage for the most part; summer water is the tricky part, unless the irrigation is back online next summer.

Countrygardens, how did you get into growing cut flowers? How did you find someone to sell them to?

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 6, 2007
5:57 PM

Post #3059039

We had an older single lady selling them at our Farmers Market. She had worked at a big gladiolus farm before she went on her own. She then met & married this guy who was close to retiring. He helped for a couple years. When he was ready to retire, he told her no more glads. So we decided to fill the void. Last summer, our high day was 107 bunches of 6 stems @ $5 a bunch.
Bernie
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2007
6:35 PM

Post #3059135

Oh my...that could really help with the mortgage!
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 7, 2007
4:49 AM

Post #3060982

Wow, that is something to consider...LOL...I wish I had the energy!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 7, 2007
6:02 AM

Post #3061074

So, after you cut them, do you just whack 'em down and start fresh? How many times do you plant?
I'm fascinated.
dwerland
Nipomo, CA
(Zone 8a)

January 12, 2007
4:49 PM

Post #3077049

We have a very active Farmers Market in my area. I buy a dozen roses for $7 every two weeks. In fact the vase on my dining room table is getting close to three weeks, and I have only had to toss two.
We don't have someone who sells glads though. Hmmm
Bernie, how many acres do you plant with Glads?
Dayna

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 12, 2007
5:11 PM

Post #3077099

Maybe a acre. About 15,000, but planted close together.
Roses, hmmm, never thought of them!
Bernie
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 12, 2007
5:15 PM

Post #3077117

Bernie, how many bunches can you get from each plant? I was trying to think how many times I cut mine and brought them in...LOL I had glads all summer too in vases anyway!! I love them. I am wondering what kind of permit I would need to do something like that...here in Georgia..
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 12, 2007
5:27 PM

Post #3077136

Yes, I'm wondering the same...
I have wonderful soil and an excellent climate, if I could find the market. Of course, it would preclude any more co-op coordinating over there on Plant Deal Lane. (co-op forum)
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 12, 2007
5:30 PM

Post #3077145

lol

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 12, 2007
5:31 PM

Post #3077147

1 per plant, but 2 or 3 per bulb you plant.
No permits needed in Minnesota. As long as you grow it yourself in MN, you can sell it anywhere without restriction.
There's even an old law on the books that when cities & towns were being laid out they needed to have a square for selling farm products & such. One city was baulking at having a Farmers Market. The Farmers Market group took them to court & they would have had to tear down the buildings on that square block if they didn't provide an alternate space.
Shouldn't need a permit in Georgia either, it's supposed to be farming state.
Bernie
JanetS
Braselton, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 12, 2007
5:35 PM

Post #3077154

Cool! That is very interesting! I have a daughter that is trying to figure out ways to make some "extra" money, so I was thinking about talking to her about doing this and see what happens...I will have to do some more research. Thanks!
Riverland
Northeast, LA
(Zone 8a)

January 18, 2007
3:00 PM

Post #3096565

Tell me how you keep the water out of the hole if you dig deep and only backfill by half. Are your furrows running downhill draining this out? I would have a sogged corm here in LA.

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 18, 2007
3:37 PM

Post #3096657

Soil with good drainage.
chris_lcf530
Peachtree City, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 20, 2007
12:18 PM

Post #3207581

Countrygardens, I love your planting idea for not staking! This is my first time planting glads, I want to leave them in ground over winter...if I plant them that deep will they still come up next year with all the soil on top? Maybe that planting is only for cutters?
Thanks all for the good info and ideas on this thread,
chris
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 14, 2007
1:08 PM

Post #3390359

Just was looking at this again, and thinking about planting in pots and planters, too, but using the same method.

It's consistently about 40 degrees here at night-too cold to plant?

4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 27, 2007
7:53 PM

Post #3542077

Well, Countrygardens, here I am with another few hundred corms and FINALLY have about 35 feet of furrows ready to plant tonight.Around my gardens I could only get a few dozen planted, but I worked out an arrangement with a friend who has unlimited irrigation water, which I don't yet, to plant glads in her garden in exchange for all the cut flowers she wanted. She jumped on that, and her husband tilled up more space. HOWEVER, their soil is so rocky compared to mine! Whew! That hand howing and rock picking reminds me of upstate NY. I know-30 feet is nothing compared to 25,000!

So, I guess I won't have my first blooms until mid-August, eh?
When you plant in succession, Bernie, how far apart?
Thanks!


dwerland
Nipomo, CA
(Zone 8a)

May 28, 2007
1:02 AM

Post #3543043

Hey Laura!
Everything I have read says plant two weeks apart for constant blooms. I have some blooming now. Some minis that I didn't think were ever going to bloom and some normal ones. Not loving the minis too much.
Dayna
sedum37
Westford, MA
(Zone 5b)

May 30, 2007
6:09 PM

Post #3553239

Dayna just curious why you don't like the minis?

Sue
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 30, 2007
7:12 PM

Post #3553442

Hi Dayna,
Yes, that's what I've read, too. I missed a few weeks, but should be able to get in two or three.

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