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Yay, I got a whole bulb crate planted today (photos later, DH has camera)
Black Barlow Columbine
Helenium (2) Moorheim Beauty and Autumn Lollipops
Naturtium (2) Jewel Mix and Mystery Mix
Coreopsis Sea Shells
Victoria Blue Salvia
Mystery seeds and Shoo Fly Plant
I sure hope I did it right...LOL! (3) more bulb crates allotted to me, plus one two-tiered outside window box planter. I think that will be enough, as that should be about 50 containers altogether.
I also got transplanted:
Salvia from a DG trader (thanks Donna!) and also some milkweed from another DG'er (thanks Paige!)
Now I need to do the database thing so I know what's what and from whom :) But, the dog has to be bathed, the house vacuumed, dinner started and the last night of Chanukah celebrated. Hmmm, looks like the database will have to wait :D
Tomorrow, before all chores,I am sowing blue flax, purple hyssop,lanceleaf coreopsis, showy goldenrod, autumn sneezeweed,cross-vine,black-cohosh.
I'm trying to think of a way to plant the newspaper pots in their spots and creating a mini frame around them. Let's say with dowels and wire mesh? What do you think?
This will be my first go-round with WS'ing, but tomorrow morning I'll be sowing:
purple cone flowers
and an experiment.. gerbers
It's so warm this week, ...it sure doesn't feel like winter. :)
I have others that I'm waiting til maybe mid-Jan when it's more likely to be actually cold for a few consecutive weeks!
Dowels and wire mesh sound workable - although this is my own inaugural year for wintersowing so I'm no expert...simply another novice learning the ropes. Black cohosh is one I'd like to try growing, so let me know how that goes for you. What kind of hyssop is your purple? I had finally broken down and bought two hyssop plants - tutti fruiti and sunrise, and then we MOVED and I had to leave my babies there...(wahhhh) But I received some seeds for other hyssop in the wintersowing swap, so I'm gonna plant those babies for sure. Good growing!
Deb, you have several things on my 2nd crate list going already, although I missed out on sweet woodruff seed this year :( I'm really interested in hearing how it does for you. Gerbera daisies, is that what you're trying? Woooh, you are a braver woman than I. Sounds like we'll be growing some of the same things :) Good growing!
Sunny: You're scarin' me! Yes, Gerbera daisies - 2 varieties. I found some sweet woodruff seeds on Ebay. Anyway, if I have success with either, or both, I'll be so excited that I will definitely post! :)
I'm planting giant purple hyssop and black licorice hyssop. I never had hyssop. You liked it? It was well behaved?This is also my first time winter sowing. I think I'll stick with containiners and transplanting for now. It's a tried and true method.
good luck to you.
The Agastache scrophulariifolia (Purple Giant Hyssop) http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/60323/index.html, Agastache foeniculum Anise Hyssop, Licorice Mint 'Licorice Blue' http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/89607/index.html & 'Licorice White' are in the Plant Files. I've not grow Agastache, as it can get invasive in my gardening zone, but in a container it should be fine. The bees, birds, and butterflies apparently love it! I hope all your wintersowing is a big success! Please keep us posted.
I didn't have mine long enough to find out if it was invasive...lol! I just bought my first two plants this summer and had to leave them behind when I moved - so they didn't have time to do much. I guess I can go by the old house next year and see ;) The scents were so lovely, along with the flowers, that I don't think I would have cared if my back yard was full of it, but that's just me, as I wanted lots of it for butterflies and hummers. Shirley is right though, in containers you should be fine if you're worried about it's spread.
Deb, I only have 3 gerberas which were given to me by a generous DGer - and I've yet to get a viable seed from any ones in the garden shops around here (voluntary deadheading of stock is a new pasttime of mine...hehe) Even the ones I have had that flowered didn't leave any good seed. But I adore the look of them, so if you have good germination and growth, let me know where you got your seed and I'll try it next year.
Sunny, my gerberas rebloomed at Thanksgiving and I sowed some seeds that have germinated. I hope to winter sow more. Do you know if they bloom same color from seed? I'm experimenting with a pot of red blooms, orange and yellow ones.
well, I am so new at this... I hope to do my first one later today, it has been so warm around here that I am wondering if we are going to have a really winter! I have tons of seeds but I am quite afraid of loosing them! but I shall try with some!!!! good luck everyone
I think I'll wait until mid January to start my winter sowing since it is warmer than usual. My azaleas are blooming, for Pete's sakes, and my dutch iris have already come up! I'm trying to keep an ear out for my middle Ga. gardening buddies to see when they start. I'm afraid too, that I'll lose too many if I start now. I have a ton of seeds and a large area around a fishing pond to plant. Don't want all the work to be in vain.
Here's an example of my list:
Poppy / OPIUM POPPY
Phlox BEAUTY MIX
Poppy / CALIFORNIA POPPY GOLDEN WEST
Bee Balm PANORAMA RED SHADES
Phlox PEPPERMINT CANDY
Coreopsis several varieties
Butterfly Weed / Milkweed / TROPICAL MILKWEED ASCLEPIAS CURASSAVICA
Butterfly Weed / Milkweed /ASCLEPIAS INCARNATA, SUBSP,
Butterfly Weed / Milkweed / Showy Milkweed GOLDEN WEST ASCLEPIAS SPECIOSA,
Butterfly Weed / Milkweed / Showy Milkweed PINK CINDERELLA ASCLEPIAS SPECIOSA, Butterfly Weed / Milkweed / Showy Milkweed SCARLET ASCLEPIAS SPECIOSA,
Butterfly Weed / Milkweed / Showy Milkweed YELLOW/ORANGE/GOLD ASCLEPIAS SPECIOSA, Butterfly Weed / Milkweed / SWAMP MILKWEED ASCLEPIAS SYRIACA
False Indigo BAPTISIA
Coneflower MAGNUS’ ECHINACEA PURPUREA
Coneflower WHITE SWAN ECHINACEA PURPUREA
Joe-Pye Weed EUPATORIUM maculatum
Blanket Flower DAZZLER’ GAILLARDIA
Blanket Flower FAN FARE’ GAILLARDIA GRANDIFLORA
Blanket Flower GOBLIN’ GAILLARDIA GRANDIFLORA
Blanket Flower GOLDEN GOBLIN GAILLARDIA GRANDIFLORA
Blanket Flower RED PLUME GAILLARDIA PUCHELLA
Gaura WHITE Gaura LINDHEIMERI
Red Hot Poker BORDER BALLET KNIPHOFIA UVARIA
Prairie Blazingstar LIATRIS PYCNOSTACHYA
Blazing Star / Gayfeather FLORISTAN VIOLET LIATRIS SPICATA
Blazing Star / Gayfeather FLORISTAN WHITE LIATRIS SPICATA
Penstemon / beardtongue lavender PENSTEMON sp
Obedient Plant ALBA WHITE PHYSATEGIA virginiana
Rudbeckia BLACKEYED SUSAN RUDBECKIA hirta
Over-kill or kill- me; one or the other or better yet, both...
Merciful heavens Deborah, I'm going to have to drive by your house and see how that all comes out :) I had to leave my Gaura plants at the old house too (sigh) My pineapple sage and one rosemary are blooming right now, I think they are very confused...lol. I think I'll do two more bulb crates and then that will be it for me. Probably next week while my girls are up visiting (or this week rather, all this time off has my days confuddled). I'm sowing some of the same things you are too - not sure how much colder it gets up here in Woodstock than down a bit in Atlanta. Feels pretty chilly right now but I see we're supposed to be back up into the 50-60 area later in the week. But tonight my growing plants have to come into the garage since it says we'll hit below 30 tonight.
I'm not sure about Gerbera seed coming true, but I would think that it would since I don't think that they are hybrids. I'll look forward to your and Deb's growing experiences because I'd like to grow some more.
I'm trying this for the first time this year and am a little concerned about the unseasonalbly warm weather we're having. Will that present a problem for the wintersown seeds? So far, it's been between 50 and 62 degrees during the day and around 40 at night. Any advice?
I'm waiting 'til January to WS. Last year I started in January but it was still much too warm. Several of my annuals starting to germinate. Rather than lose them, I move the seedlings to the basement and used grow lights. The perennials and other seeds that need the cold treatment of winter didn't germinate until the right time in the spring. I think that I will WS more perennials and tree seeds this year. If January is colder, I might throw in a few annuals.
dmac085: 'between 50 and 62 degrees during the day and around 40 at night' will be fine for starting to wintersow your seeds. Don't worry as much about the temps as making sure that the soil in your containers does not dry out. If you don't receive enough precipitation, than you'll need to water them.
Digs: 'WS more perennials and tree seeds this year'...that's perfect. Sow your hardiest seeds first! Save your annual seeds until later, more like early Spring. What is your gardening zone?
I'm still learning. Just WSed some chinese fringe tree seeds today. I understand they need the warm and cold fluctuations more than my annuals. WSed some last year but none came up. Didn't dump the soil and there's still hope that it may take two years for those seeds. Have several seedlings under the tree so I know that WSing will work if my winters would get back to normal. Love that tree in the spring!
I'm zone 8b and tom's website is one I use often. According to him, I should have given the seeds a month or so of 70 degree weather. I may move one of the flats in and let it have some warmer temps before throwing it out in the cold.
Donnna, I know you love perennial salvias and they will do well wintersown. Haven't talked with lately. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas.
Deb, I'm putting you on my prayer list. You're going to be one busy woman this spring. WSing so much fun!
Love your enthusiasm, girl. There will be no winter depression in Cordele, GA! There are many on your list that you can start now because they are perennials. Try any of the butterfly weeds and holly hocks. The butterfly weeds have deep tap roots and are tricky to transplant so put them in your deepest containers. Hollyhocks are very cold tolerant so even if they sprout during a warm spell, they're tough enough to survive when it gets colder. And plant your poppy seeds now. You can direct sow those where they are going to grow. They, also, can handle the cold, even prefer it.
Hi did you miss me? I've been AWOL from the computer for a while and I HAVE SEEDLINGS! I don't think I'm supposed to have seedlings already...wahhh. Poppies galore, nasturtium, two kinds of coreopsis, blue flax and salvia is all growing. I didn't know about the poppy transplant thing, so I guess I'll just cut through the bottom of the milk jug and dig a hole to drop 'em in.
Donna! I have to send you a dmail lady. Those cuttings you sent, all but one lived! They are so cute in their pots. I've been covering all my plants with a big blue blanket on the under 30 degree nights, and some of my annuals are still growing!! And my pineapple sage and rosemary are blooming. What's up with that?
Anyone else having totally weird plant things going on? (maybe it's written about and I just haven't read it yet)
Your list looks great. Isn't it exciting to plant stuff? I WSed vitex last year and even though the winter was warm, I still had quite a few that sprouted. Bet you go and peek into your containers everyday! I do. See you soon.
Thanks, Digs! I can't wait to be able to grow a vitex tree. I'm anxious and wonder if they are sitting in the right place, My backyard faces west. I do have pinetrees though. I've leaned a large piece of screening over my containers to help block out some of the direct sun.
I'm going to ws more containers since I've got so many borders to plant the seedlings. I'll update my list when I do.
Thank you too, Sunny, for this great thread. Have you sown anymore lately?
Deb -Yes, I worked on veggies this weekend (although they're not really wintersown per se) - and I have some morning glories that I soaked overnight, and then I'm starting on another round of flowers tonight or tomorrow night :)
Karen, your poppies look marvelous! I hope my transplanted hunk o' seedlings of poppies make it through the next few days - that is, if I can keep my dog from stepping on them!! If not, I have more poppy seed :D I have two new seedling arrivals in the WS crate - a helenium and bunch of chinese larkspur that are growing like mad.
Ok, I have sown these.
foxglove Elsie Kelsey, and purpurea
Dianthus Ideal cherry picotee, artic fire
Angels trumpet ballerina purple
Pierrot paper daisy
Occulata rose campion
Viola Sorbet babyface purple, penny orchid frost, coconut swirl, atlas sherbet,and sorbet purple duet
Scabiosa scarlet, house hybrids
Columbine Origami red/white, Vulgaris
Red Perilla red crinkles
Basil purple ruffles
Delphinium King Arthur, Galahad, and Camelliard
Bergenia Red start
Cerinthe Kiwi blue
Hardy Ageratum blue violet
Sweet pea Mutacana
Rumex red veined dock
Gerber daisy spider mix
cosmos sweet dreams, picotee candystripe, and Happy Ring
Well, we haven't had much winter here ... but I finally got started! So far I've planted sweet peas, sweet William and nicotiana seeds. I've also started my tomato seeds. I've been having fun playing in the dirt! I'll be doing more. Decisions decisions!
We finally had a dusting of snow and cold wet this morning. Don't want to talk up anymore but was happy to see it just on principle. It doesn't seem "natural" not to have actual winter weather this far into the season. The 70 degree days in Dec. and Jan were a bit weird too.
Yes, I did have tops on some. I wasn't sure when I first put them out, and I just poked holes in the tops of the tape. Then, I read that your suppose to keep the caps off. So I pulled most of them off, but the tape is really sticky, so I figured I could wait until the weather's a little warmer and take them all off. I wasn't sure why, other than water get in, the tops were suppose to be off. Someone said they would get too warm also, so I will remove them soon. I hope I'm understanding that right.
"...and this is the very most important step...take the knife and poke several slits in the clear plastic lid. This is for air transpiration. Think about it, you're making a little mini greenhouse. If you don't vent the air that is heated by the sun you'll cook your flat and the seeds won't germinate. You've baked them to death. Okay, put the lid on secure by snapping down the rim or sealing with tape. Now the seeds are sown." http://www.wintersown.org/wseo1/Making_Flats.html
Welcome to wintersowing Clementine! It's a blast, isn't it? Gardening in the middle of winter :D
Nikki, I have the 2 liter bottles and when it's cold I leave the caps on (soil is moist) and when it's warm I take them off. I found that the ones with the tops on grew sprouts faster than ones with tops off (not sure yet if that is good or bad...lol!) Also, if I know it's going to rain I'll leave the tops off as well. Probably more messing around than needs to be done, but I like to run down and check on 'em so it's not an issue because we have no snow here!
Elaine, it's hard making those choices isn't it? I just picked out some more seeds to start this weekend. Not sure where I'm going to put them all but...lol. I can live with that problem, since there isn't a flower in the yard!
Yes, I have holes all over my containers. The bottoms, below the tops, and even some in the sides. I suppose with the milk and juice jugs, there's enough of a tent (green house) effect to take the small tops off? Yes?
Is there any place that sells small quanities of seeds per pack? There are so many that I would love to try but I don't need full packs of 30 different items! I am a bad seed saver. I now wish that I had keep some of my Lenton rose seeds, columbine, and other favorites.
I don't know of any place that sells small quantities, say under 30 - but I'm sure if there are some that you want, and just need a few, you can get great trades. Most people have a few extra of things and will send several different types for just postage. Try the seed trading forum - everyone here is very generous!
The least expensive place I have found is www.valueseeds.com
Pinetree Garden Seeds and The Fragrant Path sell slightly smaller seed packs and the prices aren't bad. Valueseeds is the overstock outlet that carries seeds that are from Thompson & Morgan at a waaaay lower price and $1 S&H. Can't really beat that=)
Thanks, Sunny for encouraging me. So far I have only 5 jugs, but at least I think I did them right, I stabbed them with a serrated knife in the bottom several times and a few also where the bottom turns up (I read that someone advised doing that), then I did the same on the "shoulder" of the jugs. I leave the tops open all the time. I have them in a bulb crate (scavenged from HD), mostly in the shade, but some sun in the afternoon. I am still waiting for seeds, then I'll do some more. Most people look at me blankly when I say something about wintersowing, Never heard of it (as I hadn't). So even with all my ignorance and bumbling I am an expert here.
You are right about valueseeds, they don't send a lot of seeds, but at least for a beginner that is just right.
I have been slow to start. It wasn't really winter, for pete's sake! After 3 weeks, I have only 8 containers.
Galilee Blue Double Larkspur and Carmine Double larkspur were so gorgeous last year I WILL have them again; I don't have the carmine sown yet. Sowed 4 containers of the galilee blue. I have plans to carpet areas with White Sweet Alyssum, so I started a few containers of that. It won't be enough. Finally did 2 of "Bouquet Magic Coreopsis", which has not done well in my garden, but I'm giving it and me another chance.
Several flowers really don't need to be sown in my garden because they reseed prolifically: certain zinnias, texas hummingbird sage, sunrise cosmos, and Nigella.
I have more seeds, but need to get more containers. Fiji water bottles are my favorite.
Monardy didyma and monarda fistulosa (Bergamot)
Agastache Honey Bee Blue and White
Sweet Autumn Clematis
Rudbeckia Hirta Autumn Colors
Galliarda Arizona Sun
Salvia Coccinea Forest Fire
This week I am focusing on my fragrant flowers for next round. Then another group of veggies after that.
This is so exiciting to see what ya'll are doing! My PC harddrive died, so I'm having to write everything down in a notebook until DH gets the data moved and onto a new drive. I hope I can keep track of everything...lol!
I am still not sure about WHEN to sow certain seeds. I am in zone 7a. I have sown a couple of perennials as well as some annuals, but I think I should perhaps hold off with annuals?
As an example: marigolds reseed, which means that they are in the ground through warm and cold, wet and dry from the moment they hit the ground in the fall. They will germinate when THEY are ready to. Therefore I think I could sow annuals that reseed themselves now.
How about annuals that don't reseed? Should I wait with them until perhaps the later part of February or even into March? February can be quite cold here still (relatively speaking).
How about vegetables? I noticed that IO1 in southern Georgia already sowed tomatoes, but she is in zone 8b. I guess the question is: would veggie seeds (or annuals, for that matter) rot if sown now and having to sit and wait so long till they can germinate?
I think I am asking about things that have already been discussed when we talked about the unusual winter we have had so far, but would it be possible to get a more precise answer? I did not see anything on the wintersowing site about when to sow tomatoes, for instance, and the database is not that clear either. There are three entries for tomatoes, two of which were sown in March, same for peppers, In many cases, the spreadsheet just says YES for "germinated".
I believe the general rule of thumb is reseeders are wonderfully eligible for wintersowing. Many people here (in the forum) also wintersow their maters, and Trudi includes maters in her wintersowing freebie seed packs.
Tender annuals and perennials I believe most people wait another month or so. If my understanding is correct, with proper drainage the seeds will not rot, but will germinate and grow when they are ready. If it says germinated in the spreadsheet, that means it sucessfully wintersowed - so feel free to sow away :)
Hi Sunny, you are in the same zone as me. I looked at your earlier posts about what you have sown, and it looks to me like you also have perennials and annuals in your lists at the same time. The reseeders are a no-brainer of course, but I was just worried that my precious seeds might be lost, but I guess I'll have also make that famous "leap of faith". I will certainly report back about my progress, and I know you will too. It is so wonderful to hear/see what everybody is doing, don't you think? Tomrrow I am going to see if I can still get some seeds out of my caryopteris!!!
The hibiscus was a hardy type. I don't know the name. I had saved the seeds from a big old one that's been in my yard for a long time. I only planted a few seeds and I think they all germinated. A couple I put in a shady, protected bed, and they did well but did not bloom. The 2 I planted out in the open in full sun had several blossoms each in late summer/ early fall. Very pretty- they looked just like their mom.
Hi y'all ... one thing I need to clerify is I start my maters from seed in my laundry room and when they sprout, put them under grow lights until they're big enough to pot em up. I use Dr. Carolyn's wonderful mater planting instructions over in the tomato forum. It works for me. :-) I don't sow my tomato seeds outside. Sorry if I misled anyone by my earlier post when I mentioned that I had started my tomato seeds. I did them inside ... and my babies are under the grow lights now. :-)