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Trees, Shrubs and Conifers: Camellia 'Pink Perfection'

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GenePhillips
Savannah, GA
(Zone 8b)

January 10, 2007
2:13 AM

Post #3069732

Camellias are my favorite shrub, and I grow 100's of them in my garden, but what has always amazed me is how many gardeners love the camellia variety called 'Pink Perfection'. Everywhere that I go, I hear someone telling me about their grandmother's 'Pink Perfection', and there seems to be many great stories and memories about this old camellia variety.

I would like to hear some stories and memories about 'Pink Perfection' from anyone on the forum.

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david5311
Ann Arbor, MI
(Zone 5b)

January 10, 2007
12:09 PM

Post #3070448

What a beauty! This is the time of year I get really jealous of people who live in your neck of the woods. The summers might be tough for me, and I am not in a position to move now, but someday...

How big does this camellia get? I would love to get it and grow it in a container. Most plants get to big, even the relative dwarfs, but many can be kept in containers for a long time with some pruning and increasing the size of the container gradually.

Also, do you know a mailorder source for this plant?

Thanks for the lovely picture and description.
GenePhillips
Savannah, GA
(Zone 8b)

January 11, 2007
5:22 AM

Post #3073480

david,
July and August are killers for us with the heat, but all of the other months are enjoyable, especially at this time of year when all the camellias are in full bloom.

I have seen plants of 'Pink Perfection' 8 feet tall and 8 feet across, but you would easliy be able to control it's growth in a container with a little pruning each year. If you try growing a plant of it, I would like to hear how it does for you.

You should be able to get a plant from Camellia Forest Nursery. Their website is http://www.camforest.com

Another source would be Nuccio's Nursery in Altadena, California. I don't think they have a website, but you can call them at 626-794-3383 and get them to send you a catalog
CoreHHI
Bluffton, SC
(Zone 9a)

January 14, 2007
3:50 AM

Post #3082024

I liked that camellia, might have to get one of those.
MarkAngelo
Gainesville, FL
(Zone 8b)

January 14, 2007
11:57 AM

Post #3082352

What a beautiful picture of your Camellia 'Pink Perfection'! I planted one here in Gainesville, Florida some 20 years ago under an old Hickory tree. It grew very slowly, and when it grew above 8' I trimmed it so that the blossoms could still be visible from the inside of the house. I have found that camellias should be pruned only if necessary, as they grow so slowly, and then only in the early spring before the flush of new growth in order to still have plenty of new growth and thus buds that will set later that same year. I believe 'Pink Perfection' is so popular because 1) it has fully double blooms and 2) because it has one of the longest bloom periods of all the camellias, spanning Early, Mid, and Late blooming periods. A truly exceptional camellia.
gloria125
Greensboro, AL

January 15, 2007
9:04 PM

Post #3087193

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=Camellia japonica 'Pink Perfection'&btnG=Search

As you can see from these photos there is a range of form in the Pink Perfection camellia. There are some here over 15 ft--situated to the north, north-east of 2 story buildings. I don't remember the reference, but from my memory banks some one told me that when P.P. was first imported from Japan it was called "otome", and it was a smaller version of what often sees today. Also, its ideal was to resemble a very formal carving from pink jade.

I remember many years ago, at the historic house where I worked here, a woman commented, "you have a pink perfection that is not perfect!" And that is part of its wonder, in its true form it is perfect, pale pink, and it looks as though it was carved from pink jade.

It truly is one of those flowers you can spend a half hour or so just gazing at its form. And a 15 - 20 ft tree full of them is a wonder to behold.
starlight1153
Seale, AL
(Zone 8b)

January 15, 2007
9:13 PM

Post #3087219

How right your are Gloria. It is a true beauty by itself , but it also compliments those other shrubs and plants around it.
GenePhillips
Savannah, GA
(Zone 8b)

January 16, 2007
10:32 AM

Post #3088859

Gloria,
There are several varieties of camellias that have been originally called 'Otome' in their native Japan. The one that we normally call 'Pink Perfection' in America was originally referred to as 'Usu-Otome' in Japan. In Japan, they used the term "Otome" to describe a number of different small to medium sized pink flowering camellias with flower forms that were formal double. I read that this term "Otome" in Japan meant "Stop", which implied that it was too beautiful to sell or give away.

The variety that is generally called 'Otome' today in America is similar to the one that we call 'Pink Perfection', but has larger foliage, grows faster, and the flowers have cupped petals. I have posted a picture with this message of the variety that is usually called 'Otome' today in America.

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bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 16, 2007
11:04 AM

Post #3088903

So, pretty. I am in zone 6 and have been afraid to try camellias. I do admire them. We visted Savannah a few years ago. I loved all the tall crape myrtles too. Ours dies back to the ground and we don't have the trunks.
Teresa in KY
gloria125
Greensboro, AL

January 16, 2007
2:08 PM

Post #3089285

gene: that is the form on the tree across the street from me. the tree is 15 ft +, standing to the northeast of a burned out antebellum home. got any propagation ideas?
GenePhillips
Savannah, GA
(Zone 8b)

January 16, 2007
11:58 PM

Post #3091164

Gloria,
Cuttings from that plant of 'Otome'should be fairly easy to root. Also, it should easily be propagated by air-layering. Have you ever air-layered any camellias before? If you have not air-layered camellias, you might try it using the instructions found on the American Camellia Society website with the following link: http://www.camellias-acs.org/qanda/growing01.asp You should be able to find info on propogating camellias from cuttings on the same ACS site.
gloria125
Greensboro, AL

January 17, 2007
12:19 AM

Post #3091226

Haven't air-layered as yet, but I know this is the most often suggested way for camellias.
GenePhillips
Savannah, GA
(Zone 8b)

January 17, 2007
12:28 AM

Post #3091260

I took this picture of the 'Usu-Otome' or what is normally referred to as 'Pink Perfection today. I am still interested in hearing more stories of why you love 'Pink Perfection' so much!

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escambiaguy
Atmore, AL
(Zone 8b)

January 17, 2007
2:44 AM

Post #3091744

I need to try that air layering on some of my old ones.
GenePhillips
Savannah, GA
(Zone 8b)

January 17, 2007
9:56 AM

Post #3092377

escambiaguy,
It is a real easy process. I have air-layered limbs 2-3 feet with no problem. If you prepare the air-layer in the spring, it should be rooted and ready to remove in 3-4 months after you intially prepared it. The cool thing is that your new plants have plenty of buds and blooms the first year.
gloria125
Greensboro, AL

January 17, 2007
2:02 PM

Post #3092895

Gene: that photo of "otome" is just breathtaking.

I remember someone said when they were little, all the camellias had little aluminum foil packages on the limbs where their mother was air laying duplicates for friends. I guess today, children will grow up remembering saran wrap rather than aluminum foil.
GenePhillips
Savannah, GA
(Zone 8b)

January 18, 2007
12:36 AM

Post #3095055

Gloria,
You are right. Airlayering is such a common practice of camellias growers to share plants with friends. The funny thing is that when I do an air-layer, I put saran wrap on first, and them alluminum foil as a second wrap on the outside.

A friend gave me a pre-designed plastic cup for air-layering last year, but I never got around to trying it. She says that the results are better that with saran wrap or alluminum foil. Maybe, I will try it this year.
sueshoopman
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 6, 2012
5:26 PM

Post #8997221

Is it too late to add to this thread? I just ordered two "Pink Perfection" camellias--one for my mother as a Valentine's Day present and one for myself. We'll have to keep them in pots--my soil in Austin is out of the question for all acid-loving plants...and I'm fairly certain that I'll put hers in a pot, too. Mom's been trying for several years to locate a "Pink Perfection" camellia--I know she's checked every garden store we've visited in the last two or three years...but she isn't big on internet searching and she never found one. I believe she remembers them fondly from her days of visiting her grandparents in Edna, Texas. (I can just hear my great-aunt Nene saying "Pink Perfection" in her oh-so-southern voice!) After Feb. 14th, I'll ask her for her memories of them and maybe post again!
Horseshoe
Efland, NC
(Zone 7a)

February 6, 2012
10:03 PM

Post #8997512

It's never too late to add to a thread. Glad you bumped this one up!

Welcome to the site, sueshoopman!
Feel free to post a pic of your Pink Perfections! (Said in my best Southern accent!)

Shoe
sueshoopman
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 7, 2012
5:53 AM

Post #8997671

Thanks, Shoe--love your accent! And I'll happily post pictures--once I get mine! (I emailed my mother this morning, asking her about camellias...who had the Pink Perfection in the family, what was the red one we had in our yard when I was growing up...just priming her for some storytelling when I see her in a couple of weeks.) In a few minutes, when it gets warmer, I'm going outside to do some yardwork at my sister's house in San Antonio. She's got two large Ave Marias that she just bought a couple of weeks ago. One of my jobs is going to be cleaning up the fallen petals around the plants--they'll look much nicer cleaned up! I don't know enough about camellias yet to really know how the two differ...but they're both really pretty. Maybe I'll take a few pictures of them, too. (Posting will come later, though..)

Thanks for the welcome--I've just joined this community and you're my very first exchange. I love it here!
Horseshoe
Efland, NC
(Zone 7a)

February 7, 2012
8:29 AM

Post #8997880

It's a big site so lots of room to browse around. :>)

Have fun with those camellias. And with your Mom!

Happy Gardening!
Shoe
sueshoopman
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 21, 2012
9:57 AM

Post #9014682

Here's a question: what cultivar is the closest to "pink perfection" in form but red in color?

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