I was out cleaning up by beds today, raking the pineneedles and came across eggs, partially buried under the needles. This is a 12' x 4' bed and there are well over 50 eggs. Could be as many as 70. I have a pond nearby and frequently get snakes and turtles. The eggs are semi-soft and round, kinda squishy. Some are quite small and others are the size of a small plum. I covered them back up as well as possible. My rake probably damaged a few.
Can anyone tell me what I have in my beds by these pictures? My camera is not great so this is the best I could do.
Turtle eggs are round. I just think you have several kinds of turtles from that pond, using your nice soft soil to dig and lay eggs in. I get them in my yard, too - from a pond nearby. I just can't figure out why the predators haven't got them yet.
I'm eager to hear what others have to say...
I saw a turtle laying eggs last year in my neighbor's yard. Got permission from them to cover the spot with a big square of hardward cloth, then pegged it down. The very next morning, something had dug under the hardware cloth, and torn open eggs were all that was left. They can smell them. I am amazed that any survive. This is not my first encounter with this, and they have always been found and destroyed. This was the first time I tried to protect them.
I'll keep an eye on them and hope for the best. I'm not sure I want to go out and buy all the incubating materials, especially since I might have damaged them. I caught a turtle laying eggs in my backyard last year on Good Friday. Ants got to them.
You don't have to buy anything. You just need to transfer the eggs to a safe haven and give them the same environment that they are in. So, a box of some type would possibly be a cost. You may have something that you aren't using for this purpose.
Another idea would be to dig down a couple of feet in a square and put some chicken wire around the nest and bend it over to prevent predation.
I have a 10 gallon aqaurium that's not in use. Should I mix some soil, vermiculite and spagnum moss (got that off a website Ceejay sent me) and put them in there with an incubator light? Do you think handling them will be okay? They're very round and it will be hard to tell which way WAS up unless I move the aquarium around with me as I dig them up. I have a wagon...I can do that. That was a 'duh' moment, sorry. Hmm...I also have a 25 gallon, plastic storage box that's not in use. Should I keep them outside, inside, in the garage?
Great that you knew you had to keep the eggs up. Thats one little critical fact that some people don’t think to mention. Turtle eggs really should be handled ever so carefully and eggs should be repositioned exactly the way they were when they were found. You can take a black marker (pencils are too sharp and pointed) and place an arrow pointing to N on the top of each egg and then dissect that arrow with another line. This helps people reposition the eggs in the exact same orientation they were in before they were relocated. Sometimes merely moving an egg can rupture the membrane that attaches the developing embryo to the top of the shell but if you accidentally position the egg sideways in an incubator, that could place unnatural pressure on the membrane. If that membrane becomes compromised or detached, the life line to the little one has just been cut off.
Fireants are wiping out eggs of many turtle species so some people are incubating them in tortilla warmers to help out. A tortilla warmer filled with some of the same earth they were originally found in should work. You would want to keep the earth damp, not moist. I’m sure there’s information on the net about volunteers using cheap old tortilla warmers which everyone either has or knows somebody who has.
Pretty bizarre, eh? It's one of those, "who woulda thunk" deals. I guess people do what they can to try to lend a helping hand. Exotic Fireants are a big issue down south.
So glad I told you to go on line to find information about volunteers using cheap old tortilla warmers- not. I just went on line to try to pull up a few sites and all I could find was information about how to cook turtle meat and turtle eggs for about 10 pages. Really sorry about that. What I recall reading is that the average tortilla warmer is just the right temperature for incubation. Since no information seems to be available on line other than how to prepare turtles and turtle eggs for a fine dining experience, they take the earth from the area where the turtle eggs were found. They place that in the bottom of the tortilla warmer. I was told they brought the tortilla warmer over to where the eggs were to reduce over handling them so the eggs could be placed directly into the make-shift incubator. They used a different marking system than what I suggested but I don't recall what it was however the end result was the same in that the orientation of the eggs would be the same in the tortilla warmer as it was where the eggs were found. After the eggs were placed in the tortilla warmer, it was then moved back inside her house. A spray bottle was used during the turtle egg "cooking" to keep the area damp. You would need to check on your tortilla warmer daily. Please don't help them break out of their shells. I know it is hard watching them struggle and I know some might not make it but this is for the best. After your new babies have hatched, you might want to take them right back to where the eggs were originally found so they can make their own way out into the world. You will be sharing photos won't you ;)
Here's another added little nudge to consider a tortilla warmer- the sex of many turtles depends on the incubation temperature of the egg not sex chromosomes. Higher temps around 88°-89° in some species generally result in females and lower temps for some species of around 79°-80° generally result in males. Most tortilla warmer hit a decent temp range to produce both males and females right on the money. If you want to find out what temps yours will attain, go to WalMart and get one of those $1 floating fish tank thermometers and stick it bottom down in the soil. The reading won't be perfect but for a buck you can get pretty close. If your temps aren't in a decent range, you could always add more earth or leave the lid partially cracked to help regulate temps.
If they hatch and you find you are a Red-Eared Slider Turtle Mommy, would you please consider taking them to a pet shop.
The tortilla warmer I saw used definitely wasn't styrofoam. It had a clear lid like a slow cooker and it was electric just like a slow cooker. The lid was all scratched up from use and you couldn't see through it. Mine is not electric and is some sort of a tan plastic but my MIL has an electric one. Give me a minute. Lemme see if I can find an image on line. If I can't find a photo on line, I'll take a photo of hers but I'm pretty sure I've seen them at WalMart. They're pretty common around here but we're in a heavily Mexican area so maybe we just buy them more out here by me than by you possibly?
Some of the incubators they have out there are pretty darn cheap these days as many kids love to see chicks hatch. If you buy an actual incubator, just make sure you don't get one that automatically turns eggs. That's fine for chicken eggs but not great for herp eggs.
You've been deprived. You poor thing. All joking aside, if you don't already have one (we use hers for parties) I wouldn't buy one. They're sort of silly to own because how long do tortillas last? It's not like the family eats and then grazes on them all night long and we use ours mostly to keep them from drying out.
If you're going to try this without a tortilla warmer or incubator, you could easily create your own using a heating pad set to low that doesn't have an auto-off feature. You could pick up a rubbermaid or sterilite storage box to set on top of the heating pad. Those come with lids which would help out with humidity. I've done this to germinate seed before. You can regulate the soil temps by adding or removing dish towels from underneath the storage box. This is where the $1 floating fish tank thermometer comes into play.
It is very important to keep the humidity up .
I would put them in your aquarium ,with a gallon of water in a bucket .
Then a glass lid to keep the humidity in .
Include lots of the mulch from where you get the eggs .
These were 14 snake eggs .
The warmer the temp . The quicker they hatch .
Eeeeek! Don't tell her to cut one open! For shame Ginger! For shame ;) Men! They simply think differently than women!
LOVE your snake photos Ginger!
Yes, ceejay. I've done them before inside and outside. Outside was accidental. Momma Snapper came in the night and dug a nice hole for her babies then promptly layed her eggs, covered them, then took off. I had little to do with the hatching of those. It was kind of funny to watch them one by one surface. Pretty wild actually. The eggs we found and "rescued" were in an area that was being excavated to build a new Mobil gas station. I could see some sort of eggs in the bucket that had scooped out a hunk of earth. I saw a chunk of the earth fall away and it exposed 8 or 9 eggs. Me and the kids had been watching the heavy equipment because boys like that kind of thing. The operator was real nice and stopped when I started frantically waving at him. I told him I had seen something in his bucket that I was pretty sure I wanted and explained what I thought it was so he gently placed the contents of the bucket back on the ground and told me to get out of there and get my butt back within a half hour. He was smiling so I figure he was a parent himself. We went home, grabbed a marker, dumped the contents of a sterilite box, then hauled our rears back to the site. We had an egg incubator here from a past project but it had an automatic turner so that was no good which was why I grabbed the sterlite box. We marked the eggs then transferred them one by one into the sterlite box that the kids had placed muddy earth in. We went the route of the heating pad. That was how I knew you could test the soil temps using the elcheapo WalMart floating fish thermometer and I already knew dish towels could be added or taken away to help regulate the temps from germinating seed. When they hatched they were about the size of a quarter. Not all of the eggs hatched but I think we got 4 or 5 all on the same day. Kids were really upset when one couldn't wiggle its way out of the egg. I would not allow them to help it and explained why. It passed away so they buried it outside. The rest of the turtles made it. The eggs ended up being Eastern Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta picta). We placed them all in the far back of the yard and they took off for the back pond. I'm sure there are still some around here. I was comparing notes with a girlfriend of mine who was a biologist in Florida. She was the one who told me folk down there were using tortilla warmers and why. She sent me photos of their "rescuees". I can't find her photos or I would have posted them.
Regarding the heat, they would have been perfectly fine without supplemental heat if it would have been possible to leave them where they were. As it was, the few that hatched are lucky I caught those spots of white in the bucket. The temps in most homes are around 70F. Move them out of the natural environment and now we've got to step in and attempt to re-create that which Ma Nature does so effortlessly.
The turtle eggs we've accidentally unearthed around here have been oval shaped. None have been laid above ground. All have been in clumps and were touching. I've never run into snake eggs. I wish I would run into snake eggs. That would be so cool if you ended up with baby snakes knolan!
Actually, we did cut one open when we first discovered them because we thought it was possibly a fungus. No way to tell from the insides what they are yet as they're still in the 'yolk' stage.
Well, I bought a good little box today and some soil, an aquarium thermometer and an extra heating pad. I'm willing to try, even if they are snakes. But, if they are, I'm going to do one of those little 'screaming and running and freaking out dances' and then I'll calm down and figure out who to give them to. I'm not a snake person but I'll allow them to live. My cat brought a live one in one evenging and DH jumped on the table. Funniest sight I've ever seen. So, you know who, got a towel, picked it up behind it's neck and threw it into the pasture. It wasn't a pleasant experience for me but I did it. Problem is, we have nasty water moccassins around here and those really scare me. My luck, if they are snakes, that's the kind they'll be.
I've cut open what I believed was fungus before so I can see that happening. I must admit I liked his candle idea better than cutting open an egg but then I like things that go bump and slither in the night.
I actually like the heating pad idea better than an actual incubator. At least you can use the heating pad again on your aching bones next time you have a marathon gardening session.
One thing, since you found the eggs on top of the soil you might want to put them back in your box on top of the soil. I partially buried ours because I could see they were a few inches under ground when we saw them.
Do you have a video camera? I'm told we're soon going to be able to post video clips here at DG so I'd like to see you do your snake jig (little 'screaming and running and freaking out dances' ) when the time comes. Aside from that, maybe we can all take a stab at identifying your babies (regardless of what they are) after they hatch. This is going to be so much fun. What a nice break from the winter blahs living vicariously through your find!
I'll definitely put them in the box with a little of the soil I bought but I'll dig up about 2" underneath and around them and include the pine needles and mulch. I'll try to maintain the environment they are already in as much as I possibly can. I noticed today that a few of them look as if they're drying up. I'll put the healthiest looking batches that I can find in my box.
I'll post pictures tomorrow and then as they progress. Sure wish I had a better camera.
We have 6 resident HM spiders .
They don`t build a web .
They live behind my paintings on the walls . And eat all Bugs & flying Insects .
As they are nocturnal , We don`t see them very much .
Only when I`m moving a painting will one show its annoyance at being disturbed .
I think, not positive... based on writing style... that Ginger might be a male but I've been wrong before.
I don't know what I'm betting on any more because those eggs were laid above ground. What I do know is that knolan did a find job creating a make shift incubator. You might want to take a piece of cellophane and stretch it over the top to retain some humidity. Poke it a few times with a knife for some ventilation.
This thread simply gets more hysterical as time goes on. I turned on my computer and there were eyes staring me down. I like spiders very much too.
[quote]eggs on the dining room table[/quote] Egads, we did that. Had to have the whole top of the dining room table refinished. Quick fast, place a bunch of layers of cardboard underneath your heating pad, towels, and egg box to protect your wood. By the time our chicken eggs were done "cooking" and hatching out as peepers when we could move them out into the garage, I found a huge mark in the shape of the incubator on my dining room table. I haven't a clue how condensation got under there but it did and the whole table had to be sanded down a few times, re-stained, then sealed with a few coats of something or other that the furniture guy had. My husband was not a happy camper. I was in shock.
My my my! We've all certainly dated ourselves with the reference to Gilligan's Island now haven't we.
I was getting flashbacks there for a while to the day we moved the peepers into the garage. You could have heard a pin drop as we both stood there staring at the rectangular imprint of the incubator in the middle of our dining room table. It lifted the finish right off the table but it had been there in the same spot for a few weeks. Talk about having to suppress a gag reflux.
My husband got extra large panty hose and picked up shoes and clothes at Salvation Army once for a party we had to go to. You look almost as cute as my husband did. People like you and my husband shouldn't even attempt to cross dress. I think beards and mustaches do you two in but I'm sure the hairy legs sticking out through panty hose are a dead give away too.
Our table was only a few months old when I did it in with one of my "projects" for the kids. I had waited months for that set to get delivered. We set up everything on the kitchen counter these days or on racks.
Re the table: We had a family reunion and used those very nice thick paper plates for the cookout. I had quilted place mats on the table too. When we picked up the plates and placemats, the heat (and steam) from the food had ruined the finish, in perfect round circles. Eight of them. It was a disaster. Best on the bar. Don't take any chances.
My mother had a few sayings that I didn't fully appreciate until I became a parent. They were:
When one is dumb, one pays.
You put your time in now or you put your time in later but you will put in your time.
I was dumb, really dumb. I should have never placed that incubator on my brand new dining room table. I don't particularly mind learning lessons. I just wish they weren't so expensive. Have you any idea how many plants I could have bought with the money I had to shell out to refinish that table?
Now, will somebody please give me a link to this "other" thread you all are talking about!
Absolutely. That's a good thread. I've had that happen to me...sometimes they just die. I'll be happy to visit ya'll there.
I loved the pictures. You really have those wonderful creatures roaming through your yard from time to time? You ARE are a lucky devil. I also like the salamander picture. I get small ones in my yard all of the time
It's a shame, ain't it? Well, I can probably keep you bogged down with the wildlife in my yard thse days. Nothing like that cute little creature in your pics.
I moved in here 15 years ago and the area I live was very much a swamp in those days. Lots of new construction since then and lots of little creatures moved from their natural habitats. I've always felt sorry for them...urban sprawl ain't pretty. But, I didn't always feel sorry for the creepies that scared me. I've since learned an appreciation for them. Especially spiders.
The first experiences with them were tarantulas. I have found three or fouur in my house since I've lived here. I'm not too scared of them because I grew up with my cousins capturing them and letting them loose in the house. I've also had to drive on a Moped through hundreds of them while vacationing in Mexico.
My single most horrible encounter was a large brown spider, in the house. His back looked fuzzy but at the time I needed glasses and didn't know it. I took a shoe and smushed him. Well, when I hit the poor guy, hundreds of tiny specks went running everywhere. They were babies on it's mom's back. I felt like such a heel. It's some kind of water spider. Sorry, I'm not skilled in the specifics of bug types, names, etc.
The best experience I've had was with a large banana spider in my back yard. His web went from the brick of my house to the fence, about 12'. He was huge, yellow and black and looked like he was wearing armor. Every single neighbor on my street came over to see. Now, that's humdrum...we have them all over the place! They make huge nests in the trees and there might be as many as 30 in one big nest. They're gorgeous! Most of my neighbors enjoy them...a few are too scared to see the good.
Then again, we get our fair share of brown recluses (my father was bitten and he was horribly sick...the sting ate a huge hole in his hand, caused high enough fever for him to hallucinate and he almost lost his thumb) and black widows. I've found several on my porch. I just feel like I have to kill those. I've got children, 3 cats, a dog and a great hubby...I don't want any bad bites for them.
I've also got a fair share of poisonous snakes. That's why I'm a little worried that my eggs might be snakes. I don't mind if they're garters or chicken snakes. Anything else worries me. I don't know what to do with a snake other than ooohhh and aaahhhh.
I`m a professional snake catcher .
Meaning I get paid to go and get them and relocate them .
I teach ppl to catch their own and save Gig Bucks .
Get a 6 ft long length of 2 inch pvc. pipe.
Tape one end up , and hold the open end in front of them .
They will climb into the dark hole really quick .
A cap over the end whan they are in . MAGIC .
Saves $ 107 . Too easy . Kell
Funny you should ask .
I leave the same pipe on the ground over night .
One end covered .
In the morning stand pipe up and you got them .
You will need a bit of bait !!! Whatever they like .
Here it`s peanut butter .
Oh, I couldn't do that to Mahnot. She's too wonderful. Yup, I'll bet (if you could get that bookie thing going) she won't come here.
Ginger...Where on earth will I relocate them? Hooo...just got the heebie jeebies...but I'm okay. There's a beautiful park with a lake nearby but so many kids visit there.
Ceejay, I get plenty of wolf spiders here too, but this wasn't furry at all. What I thought was fur was actually the teeny weeny little babies. I've since seen the exact spiders in the pond and gully nearby...just floating on top...with babies on their backs. They're smoothe and brown and about the size of a 50 cent piece.
I've been out inspecting the rest of the little nests. I'm afraid I might have disturbed some of them beyond repair with my rake the other day. Those are the ones that appear to be drying up a little. I probably damaged the shell. But there are plenty still half buried and looking good. No predators yet. I'm really surprised because I had a racoon in my back yard night before last.
I'm off to my Master Gardener class this evening and I'll take my little box of eggs and heating pad with me (I'm bonding with my babies...LOL). Maybe someone there can identify them for certain. I have a strong feeling this is just going to be a 'wait and see'.
[quote]I'll take my little box of eggs and heating pad with me (I'm bonding with my babies...LOL).[/quote] Thata girl knolan! That's the spirit! So many gardeners view moles, voles, squirrels, and chipmunks as the enemy; turtles as that nuisance critter that messes up ornamental ponds, and snakes as something to completely rid the garden of. Glad you're one of the new breed of gardeners.
I have a few phobias...snakes, spiders and heights. Guess I'm hoping to overcome my phobia of snakes through this little experiment. I just told another friend that a good mother always says, "I will love them no matter what they are", and I will. After taking care of them, how could anyone not love them? I won't know what to do with them but I'd take pride in the fact that they made it.
People think I belong to a family of nuts. My brother used to be a sheriff's deputy (he's a detective now) but accidentally ran over a possum one evening. He was smart enough to check and sure enough, she had babes in her pouch. 1" pink, no hair, still attached to mom's teats. He put them in a box with a little blanket and quickly drove them to my mom's who hand fed them every two hours (all 9 of them) with an eyedropper. They became pretty domesticated...would hang on our fingers and crawl all over us. When they were about 3 1/2 months old, we took them to a wildlife rehabilitator that lives near me and she was able to reintroduce them to their natural habitat. The rehabilitator was absolutely amazed that my mom was able to keep them all alive. Mom has a knack for that kind of thing - she had a pet possum as a child named Lizzy. Used to curl up and sleep on her head. I love that PBS commercial...'Dare to be Different' with the family who has a skunk for a pet. Reminds me of us.
My heroes! [quote]He put them in a box with a little blanket and quickly drove them to my mom's who hand fed them every two hours (all 9 of them) with an eyedropper.[/quote] http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/656149/
That's a great link. So many people are afraid of them. I just love them. Yes, they're a little scary when they get big and you happen upon them and scare the daylights out of them. Those teeth! I feel more sorry for the possum than I do the person who interrupted them. I put dry dog food out for them when I know a family is nearby. I keep my garage door cracked just enough for them to get in. As soon as it gets dark, in comes the mom and usually 6-10 babes following.
EQ - are you a WL rehabilitator? If not...you should be! I want to take the course but I can't until my cats are no longer with me. That could be up to 15 or 20 years from now. Here, the courses are given by the State's Park and Wildlife division. My daughter wants to take them with me as well. You can specialize in mammals, reptiles or birds.
I already walk my dogs on a leash 100% of the time because I don't want them chasing down wildlife so there is no way I could leave my garage door open. Other than that, I think I like my arm in its socket and I can guarantee one of my dogs would want to play with a nice opossum in the garage and it would drag me to the ground. I'm too old for that and I'm not even that old.
No, not a wildlife rehabber and never have been. I did volunteer at an animal shelter for quite a while but I ended up taking too many home and my husband asked me nicely to quit. I do run across critters and I do my best or turn them over to people qualified to provide care for them. Orphaned opossums are not so dissimilar to orphaned kittens though. Care is similar.
Working at the animal shelter, I bet that was tough.
Is there a better option than the WL rehabber program...like, taking them to a local vet or animal control or??? I'm not sure, but I don't think the vets in my area are very wildlife friendly. I was horribly disappointed with my vet of 12 years and had to move on.
Oh yes! You have the great, huge dogs. Haahaa...do you ever try to walk all 3 of them together?
I only crack the garage door and Socks in entirely in the house now so she can't get out there. Luckily. But when she goes into the backyard at night to do her business, if there is a critter...hold on to your boots. It takes everything I have to pull her away. I've been lucky so far.
What I did for the animal shelter was heart wrenching at times but no more so than what those who were paid employees did every day. Toward the end, most of my work was administrative but I did still take home foster projects. There was always a need for foster homes and pretty much everyone in a position to chip in and help did.
The best option is to get a hold of somebody to help you care for them yourself if possible. Animal control will humanely destroy skunks, opossums, and raccoons around here and they don't have the manpower to care for orphans. Wildlife rehabbers are far and few between but they are out there and they will try to assist you. Most vets aren't licensed to handle wildlife, they're mostly domestic animal practices around here. Only one of mine is able to provide care for wildlife. I suspect you may have the same issues in Texas with licensure. Good news is we have the Internet at our tips these days.
Because I have a training collar on the youngest dog, I could walk them at the same time but then the leashes get tangled up as they sniff for the ultimate spot to pee. Without the training collar on the one, I can assure you I'd end up having my arm yanked out of the socket while I was dragged a couple hundred yards to chase whatever it was that caught his fancy. I know what you mean about running into critters. We walk our dogs in the front yard to try to cut down on interactions. It's a big help to keep them out front and we rarely run into anything other than stray cats, rabbits, and frogs in the front yard and I do have that special collar on the one dog.
There are licensed rehabbers here. I ran into one the day we rescued Sunday. She was out looking for grubs to dig up to feed 'possums. And I know a guy that rehabs skunks. I know Jesse H Jones Park is a long way from you, but the naturalists there could probably tell you where to go. (Hmmmm, how can I word that differently?...)
I have possums, armadillos and deer that show up pretty regular. We have had to tip the trashcan twice to let the possums get out after they got stuck! In the back of my property I had a couple of trees fall and I have left them for wildlife habitat.
Actually, we have several out here also. I've had to find the various ones for their different specialties thanks to my cats.
My GM had a baby owl that I had to go and pick up on her side of town, deliver to a rehabber on this side and when the owl was okay, I had to pick him back up and release back where he was found. She's on the NW side of Houston. It all worked out well.
EQ - that was how it was with my ridgeback. She was so scared of water that to bathe her, I would have hook her leash on to a 400 lb. toolbox. Well, she dragged that toolbox all the way down my street with every neighbor around trying to help me chase her down. She yanked my arm too many times to count. But she was still a great dog.
Hi y'all. My dear friend Ginger/Kell asked me to drop by because someone had asked about becoming a rehabber. I rehab ducks mostly baby Wood ducks but I will take any and all. If anyone is interested in becoming a rehabber of any kind (you can be very specialized...I only take ducks, some only take songbirds, etc), check with your local Game and Fish Comission, Vet or Cooperative Extension Office.
I tried to read all of the posts and someone may have already stated the above. I am thrilled about the egg find. Kind like an Easter egg hunt came early. lol I adored the dining table story. Our ducks have their own room and bathroom...but hey, these are our children. ;o))
I forgot to tell ya'll...I had a dream the other night, you might say a nightmare, that my eggs hatched and they were gators. I'm not scared of baby gators...I've played with plenty at parks where they let you. But these guys scared me. Thought it was kinda funny.
Soil temps. are staying at a steady 73 degrees, I'm misting with a sprayer and have a little fungus growth on top of the soil. Perhaps I'm misting too much or it's too humid with the cellophane. Maybe I'll have a bunch of little girls. I'd better get busy crocheting turtle skirts.
Your "I had a dream" comment gave me the giggles. Turtle skirts... too funny. Whatareya gonna do if they're little girl snakes? Lil pink one-hole sweaters?
I've never had a fungus develop on my earth. I wouldn't attempt to use a fungicide on that. Maybe you better pull off the cellophane. You mentioned steady temps of 73°. Was that a typo? Hmmm, I know this guy who is a herpetologist. I'm wondering if I can't fax him this thread. Do we have a print this thread option so I could print this out for a non-subscriber?
Hey duckmother, your comments seemed to me as if you were being sincere and I'm sure everyone took them that way. I can tell you one thing though, the people at our coop ext office would be passing any phone call off that came in about wildlife as if it was a hot potato so ceejay's comments hit home for me and made me giggle.
Hi EQ! What am I gonna do if they're snakes? Well, I've crocheted many a wild thing in my time, especially gag gifts for weddings. I can handle the snake skirt...trust me...LOL. I can make them very pretty.
No typo...soil is 73 degrees (how do you do the degree symbol here?) and staying constant.I think I will remove the cellophane. It's probably just too moist. Let me see if I can get a decent enough picture (can't wait till my birthday so I can get a decent camera). I'm able to hit my print button and get the entire thread. Do you only want to print a portion?
Duckmother, Ceejay is a wonderful and kind soul...have no fear. Your comments won't be misconstrued.
I'm simply not going to be able to provide a good clear picture but here goes...
Bad news. In addition to the soil problem, there is one egg...way over to the left of the first picture, that has developed some holes in it and a pinkish/reddish tip around the end. I think that egg will not make it.
Gut tells me you should remove that egg. I've got to get this thread to that friend of mine.
How to get the °?
Go to the bottom of your computer and click on start then go to programs then go to Accessories then go to system tools then go to character map. Look for the ° in there and select it. Now cut and paste it in when you type. I'm sure there's an easier way to get to it but that's the only way I know. When typing in a foreign language, I change my whole keyboard otherwise it would be a nightmare going back and forth to the character map.
Alien brain sucking gods! That's one I need to share with my husband. Wait a minute, is my husband in your house right now talking about another man's wife that way? I swear that would be something my husband would say. They are twins, separated at birth and they married people like us!
Ah haaa! Hold down Alt and hit 248...you can get the degree symbol automatically here. Whoop - ° There it is!
I'm certain there are many men of our DH's persuasion out there. Alien ships dropped them off in backyards many years ago and we have to teach them to be human.
I'll remove that egg. I don't think I'll throw it away, though...maybe I can find someone to look at it. I think I'll skim the surface of the soil as well and remove as much of the mold growing. Another egg has a split but is not open. Just an extremely soft and wet shell area where the split is. Keeping fingers crossed. It's the largest egg in the bunch.
I do hope your friend can clue us in. Thanks for all the help, EQ.
Looks as if it was developing. I can't see all that well what you've got going on there. Looks like strawberries and raspberries in a blender with ice cream sort of. I can't get a hold of Mike. I have no idea where he's gone off to but I did get a hold of my girlfriend who owns a pet shop and she said to consider removing the cellophane which you had already done and she also said to remove the compromised egg which you already did. Other than that, she says she receives her herps ready for sale (long out of the shell) and that if these were bird eggs she'd probably be in a better position to comment. I'd call that striking out on two counts. I'm thinking maybe you might want to get them in a sunny window. That might help inhibit some of the fungus and those eggs were found out in the open not buried. Maybe try d-mailing a member named joepyeweed and see what she thinks. She's out and about and might have a suggestion about the soil temps and the fungus or she might know somebody who might have a suggestion. Otherwise, do your best and keep knitting those sweaters. Think positively. At least they're not out there subject to predation and they have a loving mommy doting on them by misting them regularly.
I'm just rooting for anything at this point. I've had two more eggs pop open today and you can tell that, whatever they are, they were developing. I'm so bummed...I almost cried. Yes Ginger, even if they're anacondas (which I will send to YOU!!) I moved them to a nice sunny spot. I'm keeping them moist. Sniff, sniff. Poor little buggers.
BP...good to see you here. I've been wondering where you've been hiding.
You're doing your best. There's not much more you can do.
Got Mike, he said the sheer number of eggs you found doesn't sound like any species indigenous to your area. Mike is from Houston. The time of year you found these eggs is also leaving him scratching his head. He states the size of the eggs precludes them from being a native lizard. He believes what you might possibly have are the offspring of a green iguana that was a former pet. He claims there are many irresponsible people out there who release pets. If these are Green Iguanas, he asked that you please consider giving them to a pet shop.
The trick with any native herp (not an exotic such as what he believes you may have) is to keep the humidity high. He stated keep misting those eggs and to transfer them onto vermiculite maintaining the orientation and to cover the box with cellophane again that has slices in it for some air transfer. He indicated that for Texas, room temperature should be fine. He does not understand why the eggs are splitting open as you described other than that they were grazed by your rake or the pine needles possibly. He also said I need to tell you to do an about face and get them out of the sun.
Pepper's wish might in fact come true! Wouldn't that be so cool?
I meant to say, this batch was one that I didn't rake over...that's why I chose to move this particular group in. Once I noticed the eggs, I stopped raking. This group was under pine needles near a clump of freesias that had come up.
I've moved them from the sunny spot, put a new covering of cellophane with nice big holes. I'll have to get the vermiculite tomorrow.
Also, there is a neighbor boy down the street that raises big lizards. I'm sure he would love to have one if this turns out to be the case. I always give them a call when I find tomato hornworms. He and his father come and pick them for their lizards. They collect large lizards and large birds. Pretty cool family.
Yes, Mike's a sweetheart. Really glad I was able to get him on his cell. He said to get them on vermiculite or a vermiculite/perlite mix actually (sorry for forgetting to mention the perlite but he was rattling off info and I was typing and then we got to talking about other things in between me sucking his brain) and to get them out of the sun. That means moving them to me. Just be careful handling them and retain the orientation.
I thought the eggs you found were in the open? Are you saying they were completely covered by the pine needles?
Ugh, completely covered in pine needles eh? Sorry about that. I must have missed you saying that before somewhere. He's a Herpetologist, I'm not. I'd go with what he says. We're both Naturalists but a Herpetologist trumps a Conservationist in this particular situation.
It's been, what, maybe two hours since I moved them and recovered them, another one has split. It showed no indication of splitting earlier. I was making my bedtime rounds and noticed it. I wonder what could possibly be happening. I'll try the vermiculite mix tomorrow and if they all end up splitting, I'll just monitor closely the ones that are still in the bed out there. Nothing appears to be bothering them yet. I should say that I've noticed this happening to quite a few out in the bed as well. Not just the eggs in my box. This is just sad.
I'm going to go out there several times a day and report to ya'll. Hopefully we can get some babies. I'm happy to share if we do.
I'm really bummed. There are only 4 left in my box and 2 appear as if they are shriveling.
I've been doing everything right, I hope...spraying often, keeping the soil at a moderate temp. If it's happening outside too, well, could it be that we are unseasonably warm right now? Today it was 85° and low humidity. A week and a half ago the temp dropped down to 19° here. Night time temps seem to be in the upper fifties and low sixties right now. This is the only thing I can think of that might be causing problems for the poor little eggs. Maybe the freeze did something to the eggs to prevent their proper development? The freeze was before I brought this little group in.
Mike said that room temperature was fine. Look at the contents of those eggs, they are developing before they split. That means your temps are fine and that some other phenomenon is responsible for the splitting.
Do you want me to give you Mike's home phone number? I don't know that he can offer much more without seeing good crisp photos but I already told him that you were like me and would be the kind of person to try to save a skunk so he'd talk to you.
Forgot to mention that from what little I could see oozing out of that split egg, you don't have turtles.
I don't know that it will do much but make you feel better by doing something but you could put some shot glasses of water in with your egg babies. That might help with humidity. We do this in curio cases we have with little ivory figurines my husband collects called netsukes. We don't know that it helps but we don't know that it hurts. Could be one of those things we humans do just to do something pro-active. I dunno. Spritz your eggs one more time then go to bed egg momma.
Thanks, EQ...I'll rinse the shot glasses out real quick (just kidding)...seriously, I'll try that. I'll spritz them some more. Too bad I can't convince my dog to snuggle them.
You don't think the freeze might have hurt them? Even though they were developing, couldn't the freeze have done something in an early stage to ruin their chances of reaching full development?
You say by looking at them you can tell they weren't turtles. I can say for certainty that they're not snakes either. The pinkish development looks like limbs forming in a curve. There are definitely four limbs and a spine to this creature. So, snakes are out of the question too. Tomorrow, I'm going to completely remove the shell of the largest one and see if I can see a head that had started to develop. I can't see that from what is exposed peeking out of the egg. I've tried to find photos of embryo development and haven't hit one yet. I've come up with lots of scientific mumbo jumbo that means nothing to me...I want pictures for comparison. A turtle develops like this...a snake develops like this...a lizard develops like this...that's what I want to see in different stages of development for each of them. Anybody out there need a science fair project? LOL. Honestly, I'd like to see someone do this. I can't find this information anywhere.
Well, the freeze could have done em in but I don't know. He did mention that the time of year you found these eggs was leaving him scratching his head. It seemed kind of early to me too.
Your photos weren't clear enough (really sorry but my vision isn't the greatest) for me to see any limbs forming. I'm an extremely visual person and I also want to see photos of "...a snake develops like this...a lizard develops like this..." . One problem, I would never be the one to slice open any unknown egg to photograph development. It's not in me to do that.
Oh, I won't slice open a good egg, no, no, no...didn't mean to insinuate that. Just one that's already popped. No, never. I just want to remove the entire shell of one of these that hasn't made it so we can see a little bit more.
I'm going to borrow my buddy's good camera and take a good picture for you to see. Take that back. I'm going to have HER take a good picture for you to see.
Reading the devleopment there, and looking at my expired eggs, yup. The main development is occurring around the yolk area. It's surrounding it, so to say. The limbs are developing already...well, I can say that for sure AFTER I remove some of the rotted shell and see what was going on. The shells are still super soft.
It just occurred to me what you were saying. You wouldn't like to see anyone crack slice an egg in half to see its development. I agree.
I was thinking more along the lines of someone...like Ginger, who raises reptiles, probably has a lot of eggs and probably sees a few expire during their development. Once they do expire, from whatever natural cause, open it up and see where it was in it's developmental stage, take a picture of it and record it. Show it to the rest of us so we know what they're supposed to look like at the various stages of development. That's what I meant. I said it the wrong way. Sorry. Does that make sense at all? I'm not for injuring a good egg of any sort.
I talked to someone tonight, only briefly, and she suggested that the eggs could be from a killdeer bird. They lay their eggs in the ground. Came home, looked it up and it doesn't seem likely to me. This bird usually lays on it's eggs, like normal birds, and they usually lay the eggs in gravel. I've seen no ground birds around here and certainly no birds in the flower bed.
Nah - Kildeers lay them on top of the ground - like you said - usually on gravel and the like. They are so well camouflaged that you can't see them if you are looking straight at them. And there is always an adult nearby doing a broken wing act to lure you away from them. And they definitely look like bird eggs!!
Wow! I am so glad you found that information. I was wondering what that nasty stuff was that grew in my flower bed, last year. When I first saw the broken egg, I wondered if it may be the same thing but I did not know what it was called. I really hope that is not what you have. I want there to be a creature/critter!
Thanks, Kim. Me too. I'm certain this isn't a fungus. I'm keeping my eyes out and a lot of the little eggs are still popping open but there are still more that look ok. I'll post more pics. as I get good ones.
The things popping out look way too much like an embryo, with limbs. The eggs aren't 'finger shaped' and don't look anything like the pictures of the fungus shown on that website. Also, key point here, when we first discovered them, we thought they might be a fungus so DH opened one with a machete. It REALLY, REALLY looked like an egg. Gelatinous on the outside, yolk present, very much an egg (I think).
Well, I'm pretty sure now that these are indeed, a fungus. I just went out to dig up a new batch of healthy 'eggs' and lo and behold, there are little roots growing on the bottoms. I sure didn't see those before.
That bottom photo is EXACTLY mine! See the pink octopuss resemblance?
Yes, EQ...may we have many more of these adventures.
I took a box and shared with my class this evening. Everyone got a kick out of the fact that I was controlling the soil temp, misting them...you know, everything but actually sitting on them. But, hey, they REALLY REALLY look like eggs.
Ah, a little family of stinkhorns. I'm so very lucky.
I reread this entire thread and it has got to be one of the funniest threads. I can't help but point this post out from the middle of February by joepyeweed- [quote]They look like puff ball mushrooms to me.[/quote]
knolan! You're a good stinkhorn momma, the very best I might add.
I can't get the thought of you incubating stinkhorns out of my mind. I also can't get the thought of me helping you incubate them out of my mind. I suppose your husband is really having fun with this these days. I know mine would never let me live it down. Aren't ya glad you didn't invest in a new tortilla warmer. Oh that would have been one to share with the grandchildren. This whole thread is ridiculously hilarious. It's a deep belly laugh thread.
Oh my, had I bought the tortilla warmer (and I came close), well, that would have just been icing on the cake. You're right, I will never live this one down. Especially since I sent an email to a lot of my friends telling them that I probably would soon have either baby turtles or baby iguanas. Well, now I have 'egg on my face' and will have to explain that I have "Stinky Squid Stinkhorns". But, see? The octopuss description was close. Whaddya think? This is something that I'm going to laugh about for the rest of my life. And I couldn't have done it without ya!
[quote]a good mother always says, "I will love them no matter what they are", and I will. After taking care of them, how could anyone not love them? I won't know what to do with them but I'd take pride in the fact that they made it.[/quote]
I didn't read that possum thread thoroughly, EQ. I've just now read it, in it's entirety. I must have been speed reading or someone was hollering at me for something. What a great thread. I wish I had paid more attention to it earlier.
I don't have the recipe on hand but a vet gave us a 'universal formula' for small mammals that is supposed to be adequate for about a day or two until you are able to find the appropriate diet for that particular animal. I wished I had it to post right now. It's what my mom fed the possums with an eyedropper in those first few days. The more I read about baby possums, the more I am amazed at my mother. I just can't believe she was able to keep them alive.
Sorry, I should be posting this on the possum thread. I will as soon as I find that formula. If you don't mind, can I run the recipe by you first? It's something that worked for my mom and the possums but I have no idea if it's a recipe that should only be used with certain animals.
On second thought, wouldn't that be a good topic for a new thread or forum altogether? Different feedings for different animals? Or is there already one out there and I just haven't found it? I don't have enough experience to start it myself. Also...a forum for questions like, "What to do if your dog gets skunked", or "what if a porcupine attacks"...(sounds silly but I 've seen a picture of a dog that had the spines all over it and I don't think there's any way that dog could have made it after having those pulled). Is this a stupid idea?
Oh hurt, pain. I just read what ceejay typed about a good mother and I'm here at work sneaking on the computer because my computer at home doesn't work and now you have me gagging and this office is very soberingly straight laced. Oh my Gawd!
Well, I almost posted another id request but thought it would be too gross. My ferocious cats got a hold of 'something' and all that's left is the little gross stomache part. It wasn't a bird, I know that. I thought I'd be nice and not post a picture even though I know you would all be very helpful at guessing what it belonged to.
Hah, hah, hah ROTF along with everyone else! Kristi, I've just been lurking here anxiously awaiting the hatchlings, but now I just had to join in. I can just see you as you, oh so gently, tended to your delicate little "eggs."
This reminds me of something that happened years ago to a friend. She purchased one of those little egg incubators so her children could see baby chicks hatch. Deciding it wasn't warm enough, she turned it up. She ended up with hard boiled eggs. :)
It's true, I admit it. But I would have had to throw it away after I found out what they were. Can you imagine using it to warm food in afterwards? Bleckgghh! I'm sure it would have given the tortillas a very distinctive and "earthy" taste.
If you could have seen the expression of my DD's face when I told her what we were incubating. If there's anyone who won't let me live this down, it's her. I'm being teased by a slew of kids now, thank you very much.
It's a little tree frog! Again...time for a new camera. Come on birthday!!!!
Part of the problem with the picture is his reflection on the glass.
Starting around this time of year, we have to be careful when we open doors and windows so that we don't accidentally smush them. I have one really large window in my living room that leads to the backyard and usually in April, I'll have about 25 of them all over that one windowin the evenings. They're so pretty.
I have to tell ya'll that I was cleaning out a bed today that is about 6 feet away from the bed where my stinkhorns are. They are all popping open at this time and the smell is utterly unbearable. I had to stop...just couldn't finish. It is, by-far, the foulest odor I have ever encountered and seems to be permeating the whole yard. According to the websites, there is nothing I can do. Thank God for the jasmine in bloom.
On another note, tonight I have a new visitor. It's a little salamander about 8" long. He's really cute. DD wants to keep him but I said no. (Can you believe?). He needs to go out and make more...I don't see too many of these guys so...let them multiply and then we'll talk.
Isn't he cool? Okay, I'm back out there and counted 5 tree frogs. Only one is on the window that I was talking about but he's on the screen. I guess it's a good thing because I don't get the glare from the flash and you can see him/her a lot better.
I love this time of year. It seem a little early for these babes to be out and about. Ya'll should hear the songs from my back porch. The bull frogs are croaking so loud.
Last year, doing yard work, I left the garage door open and my DH "squealed!" Yes, he squealed...he's not used to a lot of this. I went running out there and there was a huge bull frog sitting by the door. So I call my friend who is a WF rehabber for reptiles (and she has an excellent pond in her back yard) and she came running over. We were able to get the frog into a large bucket but, then he jumped. If you could have seen the spread on those legs. He was a huge guy! I'm talking 3'! The poor thing was scared with us all trying to catch him. He jumped behind and under the deep freezer. We had to pull it out from against the wall and tilt it a little so he didn't get smushed. Left it like that for hours until he came out on his own. I felt sorry that we had probably traumatized him. We just let him wander off on his merry way. Sure wish I had a picture.
On a separate note, there's a park not far from us. It's really a swamp but has a really cool three story deck to walk out over the water. Lot's of ducks, frogs, gators, water lilys, etc. I took a group of kids one night for a picnic and we stumbled on traps for the frogs off of the decks. Well, we opened em up and let them go. This big ole' burly...you know what...starts screaming at me for opening them up. I told the kids to get in the car and gave him the appropriate finger. Hope he ate at McDonald's that night.
terry - I'm having trouble with slow threads too. I thought it was my network but I checked that. Even threads with no pics. seem to be opening up slowly. It's been going on for a couple of days with me.
I will have to come up with a special pattern for these guys. It's not as simple as the stinkhorns. LOL.
Knolan, that is a beautiful girlie girl stinkhorn outfit! It would fit perfectly! Mine won't be growing till June or July. I have two places that put up a single horn. I will measure it! I know better than to pluck one to get rid of it too. Phew! Your Kermit is very nice! Another month and our spring peepers will be going off. I love that. If we get enough rain, the lightning bugs will be thick. I found a glow worm a couple years ago. They're cool!
Terry, I grew up in Southern IL and loved lightning bugs there when I was a child. Here in Central FL we seldom see them...and oddly enough, there's usually only one or two on the very rare occasions when we've spotted them. I've lived here over 30 years and can count on half the fingers of one hand the number of times I've seen lightning bugs. Now love bugs...that's another story! Hate those things! Where to you live in Illinois?
Yay, KN, did you wish me some rain today? We finally had a shower early this evening. I just wish it had rained more because we certainly need it. Last year we ended up with a rain deficit of over 12", and we're not off to a good start this year. It's a tad scary because we have a well...and sinkholes are starting to open up.
Ooooeeee...yes, that's one big sinkhole! And they are indeed scary. Years ago there was a huge one here that swallowed a house, part of a car dealership and part of a swimming pool (if I remember correctly). I do recall that a woman looked out her window and saw a tree suddenly disappear. Photos showed cars from the dealership sliding down into the hole...which is now a lake. This whole state is floating on limestone caverns not too far beneath us. When we have droughts, they start to give way. And sometimes they also give way when there's too much rain. I tell ya, you just can't win in this state!
Hey Hope, me and knolan can set you up mighty fine with a stinkhorn incubation plan. Please let us know if you'd like to incubate a few on your counter top. She'll even toss in a few knitted sweaters for youu bouncing baby stinkers. I saw this really neat multi colored yarn at Walmart for baby blankets and it came in pink, yellow, lt green, lt blue, and white. That covers all the bases with stinkhorns.
I forgot to say, I was told by the extension office not to touch or move my fungus' but it was too late. I spent last weekend finally clearing out that bed and tossed everything into lawn bags. I hope I'm not causing an explosion at the local landfill. If so, it was unintentional. I must say that I 'gagged' the entire time I was cleaning as all of the little eggs had started 'blooming/hatching'.
I can't believe I'm going to say this. I would have much rather preferred snakes.
I had a man and wife bring in scrambled egg fungus AKA dog vomit fungus last week. It looks like a dog vomited scrambled eggs with sausage mixed in. Really gross looking. But at least it doesn't stink!
Naa, there's better out there for a Halloween Party. Totally off topic but you can re-create Frankenstein's operating room if you're having a kid's party. Make sure you don't have any pre-schoolers in the bunch for the party. Start with a sheet of plywood and lay it out over construction horses. Now cover that with a bedspread or something that drapes over the edges so you can't see what's under the table. Cut a hole in the plywood so one Dad can stick his head up and out. If you position it just right, you can stick a chair underneath so that Dad doesn't have to kneel. Create some sort of a body and stuff it. You can pick up clothes cheap at Salvation Army for the second Dad who will dress up as Frankenstein. Cut holes in the sheet that goes over the "body" with flaps where the heart, lungs, intestines... etc. would be. Now get the first Dad to apply make-up like the monster with bolts sticking out of his neck and have him stick his head up through the hole from underneath. You place raw beef tongue in a tray recessed down into the dummy body under the flap where a lung would be. Scrambled eggs for brains that are placed in a bowl next to the Dad's head. Hard boiled eggs for eyeballs in a bowl on the other side of his head. Add a little oil to the bowl that has the eyeballs in it to lube em up so they're good and slippery. That recipe they have for slime makes great boogers if you add some green food coloring. If you pick up some air hardening clay, you can add it to a the ends of a 2" wooden dowel to create something that feels like an elongated dog bone for a leg bone. I forgot what we used for the heart, it's been too many years. You can use noodles with mashed strawberries for guts. Toss some cooked rice for maggots over the body and literally just let your imagination run wild with anything else you can think of. Add some dry ice for effect if it isn't too expensive and set up a few candles for very soft light for their preview peek before they get blindfolded to be walked through the lab. Now line up the kids to walk through the laboratory one by one. Let them get that peek at the body on the table in very dim light then blindfold them. Guide them through the lab and let them feel everything and explain to them what they are feeling using a lot of really gross adjectives, save the guts with the strawberries for last because that means they'll walk out with bloody hands which really makes them squeal with delight after you walk them out of the lab and take their blind fold off. Now here's where the other Dad comes in. He's waiting outside the lab. After the kid leaves and you walk away, the kid's examining his bloody hands while that second Dad is preparing to chase after the kid while asking for his boogers back. This is why it's good to set up your lab inside your house by your front door. You can lead the kids into the lab through the house and then out the front door where the other Dad goes after them when they least expect it.
I found the idea in a Family Fun magazine and sat down with other Moms and we expanded on the concept to "personalize" the experience for the kids.
We did this many years ago and the kids are all still talking about it. The mummy toilet paper wrap up contest paled by comparison.
Oh, now that is a hoot! I have a combined children's and adult party every year. This will DEFINITELY be done this year. How funny. My DH is a real trooper and he'd love something like that. My next door neighbor will happily comply too.
It wasn't just us. I found the idea and cut it out to show everyone and then the Moms sat down and "tweeked" the concept. It was sort of benign and ho hum when I first read about it in that Family Fun magazine but once we started adding our own twist, we really had some fun with it. I was the one who came up with the strawberries in the spaghetti noodles and then the idea of using steamed rice as maggots sprinkled over the sheet was too irresistable to pass up. In total, there were 4 sets of parents involved. All of us very boring and "family next doorish"... until it comes time for Halloween... or 4th of July...or anything we can think of to goof off. I think we've all got major silly bugs in us.
Although the Frankenstein lab was hard to top, we did get some kids good last year by setting out coffins made out of plywood with dummies in them as yard art. What's really funny is that the kids are convinced the dummies are real people so all the kids have to poke at them to see if they're going to get jumped. Once they figure out they're really dummies, they go about the business of being kids. Here's where the fun begins. You sort of wait until all the kids are sitting around the bonfire and then some of us "swapped" places with some of the dummies and hung out motionless waiting. Kids like to run around a lot and with a hundred people, it's sort of hard to keep track of everyone so they had no clue the dummies had been swapped out for real live people. When the kids started running around, we had a que to jump out and grab them when the word coffin bangers to the song Monster mash started playing. I swear some kids needed a change of pants after we jumped out and started grabbing them. You can make these coffins out of refrigerator boxes too. Plywood is kind of expensive.
I have no idea what we're going to do this year. Any ideas?
We always play a game where I buy squishy eyeballs and mix them in a bowl of spaghetti with red food die. They have to dig the eyeballs out with their toes.
We also go on a witch hunt and I take the kids for a walk by the park where I tell them a scary story about a man that was eaten by a group of witches in this area and every now and then you can see his ghost in the trees. Well, we have someone in the trees with a flashlight covered with blue cellophane thatcomes on just at the right minute and then two witches come running out from behind other trees.
My DD is having a slumber party for her bday tonight and I picked all the girls up from school. They were doing a worm compost bin in their science class and this was a gift just for me. I'm a lucky gal.
EEEEKkkSS!!! I am a little scared ,, but ohhhh so curious.. I feel like a little kid .
This is crazy! I called the ER and had to give DH another pain pill,, that is the ONLY reason i am up ...he is now sleeping finally I think.. will go look..
and hope I have NO nightmeres tonight..
If I do I might just have to cut you crazies off. LOL
OH MY you folks REALLY are crazy!! So it was just a fungi???? or something??
I am so sorry, I am worn out with lack of sleep , worry for dh, etc...
I will look again tomorrow... I think I AM in a nightmere,, uh nightmare,, how the heck you spell that anyway??
This is the craziest thread on DG that I have ever found. Are you people always discussing the disgusting??? LOL
Oh puleeze ,,, how can I take it off my watch list...
GOODNIGHT YOU CRAZIES!!!!
I have a husband with a broken rib that is finally sleeping!!!! Have to get up in 3 hours to give him 2 more pain killers... HMMM,, perhaps one for me?? If DG had a contest for the most unusual, and unusally long thread with the craziest of outcome,, I think this is the winner. It is GOLD. Shall we suggest??
Have a wonderful weekend and if I dont see your weird stuff for the next week, bless you all for Easter is coming... I thinks you might need it.
LOL!!!!!!!! Truly a smile on my face. I have this feeling you will be back.
Uh oh, [quote]Have a wonderful weekend and if I dont see your weird stuff for the next week, bless you all for Easter is coming... I thinks you might need it.[/quote] She's blessing all of us crazies for our "weird stuff". We must all be totally off the wall to people reading us for the first time.
Really sorry about your husband's broken ribs flowerlou. They don't tape them anymore so even breathing will be difficult. Here's my way out and whacky tip for the day coming from somebody who has broken ribs a few time... get him a pillow to haul around with him. If he feels as if he is going to cough, sneeze, or laugh; tell him to try holding the pillow firmly in front of his rib cage with his own forearms if he even thinks he is going to do much more than breathing. He can avoid excrutiating pain this way. Not a good idea to let him read about knolan's itty bitty precious hatchlings right about now. He might be in too much pain laughing at all of us.
thanks Equil. He figured out the pillow thing already. He is really having a hard time. They say the first week is the worst. It happened last tues. evening.
He is just in so much pain, and is exhausted.
Thanks for thinking about him with the tip.
thanks Equil. He is just always moving ,, he finds a somewhat acceptable place to sit, then he needs to walk or stand.
Another bad thing about this is he is a self employed working contractor.
No work,, no pay.
His appetite is really down.
Tuesday evening will be one week.
He is your husband and I am hoping he isn't reading this but... I taped my ribs with duct tape. That is a big no no because of risks of pneumonia as well as other evils that were rattled off to me. My doctor had an absolute fit when he found out what I had done.
On me I didn't have any chest hair that could have been ripped out but your husband might so maybe you could use gauze under the tape on his chest. I had to go to work. All you do is have him stand still and hold up his arms and you hold the tape while he spins slowly in a circle. My husband helped me. I was very careful to take off the tape after a few hours and you just use a scissors and slice through all layers from top to bottom.
disclaimer- I am not a medical doctor (not even close) and got a big rear chewing when I admitted to my doctor that I had taped myself. My job is not physical. I sit at a desk. I get the feeling that a man in the trades could do more damage than a woman sitting at a desk and your family could be out way more income if he pushed himself to get back to work... or worse. I know you don't have income coming in but my little voice tells me you should probably not share this with him as he might try to get back on the job. When did his doctor say he could go back to work?
Pleurisy is something to really watch for with broken ribs. Like Equil, I've broken ribs a few times. My doctor told me I got it from not inhaling and exhaling to my lungs full capacity. It hurt too much. I hope your husband feels better soon flowerlou!
Thanks for all the Broken rib tips,, dh will probably just stick it out..he is insisting on going to work tomorrow but says he will only do what he can.
I just read all the fun Halloween stuff. My 6y.o dd was born on Halloween, she will be 7 this year.. I have been wondering when to do a halloween party. This might still be too scary though. I have to figure out how to cut and paste the directions for Equilibriums lab.
Hope all are having a wonderful spring so far.
So do all these crazy wierd fungi mainly show up in spring.
You all wait for gross growing stinkies.
I am just waiting for my hummers.
I might be missing out on another side of me.. ha ha
Ya know, I know how to cut and paste. I forgot who taught me how to do it but I know how. I am sitting here stumped trying to figure out how to tell you how to hi lite then cut and paste and I'm stumped.
O.k, I think I can cut and paste,, but once when I tried to do so from DG, I couldn't for some reason. Maybe it was WHAT I was trying to cut.. I dont think it was anything different than say the halloween instructions. Maybe because we are members?
If I try,,, where the heck would I cut and paste too?? lol
do I make a new folder? How will I remember it is there, etc.
Geesh,,, someone puleeze tell me how I found this thread??
I am getting deeeeeperrr andd deeeeepper.
Is this place a bad influence on everyone else here???
Or maybe just another bunch of cool DG's.
Not sure I would want to round up with you though!!
To copy/paste: Just take your mouse pointer to the beginning of the thing you want to copy, left click and hold it down while you move over the area you want. It will turn blue. When you've higlighted it all, release the left mouse button, and right click on the highlighted area. Left click on copy. Open a new document in Word (or whichever word processing program you use) and right click in the document, then left click on paste.
Sounds long and wordy, but it is really easy...
I didn't mean like one a year. One plant at a time could be like a multiple vitamin... one a day. Now expand from there and add other supplements and you could be up to a whole tray of goodies a day. You let me down. You weren't using your head.
One plant at a time?? How about if I buy a couple dozen, then don't buy any more for at least a month? Does that still work?? It's Spring and it's going to warm up here sooner or later! AND Ms. Equil (the co-dependent), how many plants have you bought so far this year?? Are you abiding by your rule of one plant at a time??
Mary, once you copy and paste, click on save as and then save it on your desktop. That way you know right where it is!
Oh for Pete's Sake!! You can too order more than one on an order form! Next to the plant name, you simply write a 5 or a 10 or however many you want! ElCarlito might buy what you're selling, but I'm sure not!!
If both my arms and fingers were broken, and I had to carry I with my teeth...which I could very well do, thank-you. lol
I could probably do a six-pack (plants) too, but that's still really considered one, isn't it?
ONE PLANT SPECIES AT A TIME Ladies. There is no way those order forms could accommodate more than one plant species per line or it would be a logistical nightmare. After you put your quantity in the line, you move down to the next plant species. That counts as one at a time in my book regardless of quantity. Anyone care to disagree? I generally buy my plants in threesies but I put them in the cart in onesies. If it's a tray, I put the ONE tray in my cart. I've carried a 4-pack by the handle in my teeth before like fly_girl and I've most certainly shuffled across parking lots with them under my arms while pushing a cart with my forearms but best of all is when they get delivered to my door in a nice big box. No fuss, no muss.
Let's not all get hung up on semantics! One plant, one species, one 4-pack, one tray, one shopping cart... it's all one to me.
Hahaha...that reminds me of the weather conditions too that would have stopped a 'normal' person. You know...when the wind is a straight 30 MPH sheer across the parking lot and your one cart full is all laying on thier sides and you're praying they don't fall off the cart. Because then you would have to take it back...I mean, it's damaged right?
Weather bothers me none! A few weeks back when we had severe storms and many of my class mates didn't show up for class...I left early just so I could go to a bulb sale on my way. Left right in the middle of the howling, torrential rainfall when the weatherrcasters were saying stay inside. I bought 3 plants only...that would be 45 bulbs.
[quote]I feel so much better about NOT being a plant addict.[/quote]
We can quit any time we want.
We just don't want to quit but... we could if we wanted to.
We don't have a problem, it's others who view our plant buying habits as a problem who have the problem.
I know there are non gardeners that don't get it. One time my 8 year old neighbor came over with his mom. We were talking out in the front yard and he turns to me and says, 'I bet you spend a fortune on plants'. I knew that is something he overheard his mom say. I just laughed and thought...this is a hobby, I can't stop anytime, most were on sale, yada yada. lol
I actually don't have to worry most of the time about buying plants since I work at a garden and they give me free plants all the time. And now that sping is here all those plants can go into the ground and live for awhile instead of dying in my room.
Yes, I sort of like that mantra too. It works for me and it can work for all of us.[quote]I actually don't have to worry most of the time about buying plants since I work at a garden and they give me free plants all the time.[/quote] Braggart ;)
I can NOT believe I missed this thread~!! And my buddy Eq was participating...
Some years back we had an old old house on some acreage, and a patch of erotic looking mushroom started growing near the lilacs. Didn't know what they were, took a picture of them. l didn't have DG or internet or I might have found out they were little orange and white stinkhorns. I should go look for that photo. They were really strange looking compared to all the other mushrooms I've seen. Now that I know what they are I'll probably never see another.
I subscribe to the one plant theory. My DH is even worse. But, we can stop any time. I'm sure of it.
It just took me an hour to read this thread from beginning to end again. Oh my, it WAS funny and fun too. EQ...I haven't seen you around but perhaps I'm not visiting the right spots. I miss your knowledge and humor lady!
Too bad I didn't have a momma stinkhorn stork bringing babies this year. I'm not sure what they do for my soil out there but it must be good...things are thriving in that old bed.