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Windy
Belleville , IL
(Zone 6b)

February 27, 2007
3:40 PM

Post #3230183

When I first started growing things from seed I did not know of one important detail. Some seeds require being sown on the surface and pressed into contact with the soil. I had a lot of failed attempts at growing several of my favorite types of seeds when I would cover them too deeply.
Another seed may need to be covered completely to germinate. I had lots of failures with tithonia and purple coneflower. One needs light, the other dark to germinate. Press the tithonia (mexican sunflower) seed into the soil surface to germinate. Cover the purple coneflower seed well.
Soaking smaller seeds is sometimes necessary to penetrate the hard cover of the seed. Some people think only large seeds which they can easily see need to be soaked. I even soak petunia seeds that are not pelleted.
Weezingreens
Seward, AK
(Zone 3b)


February 27, 2007
5:23 PM

Post #3230493

Good points, Windy. Most surface sown seeds are very small, so I mix them with coarse sand to spread them evenly and to hold them in place when I mist them. Otherwise, I can roll them all over on one side of my starter tray.
Erynne
Orangeville, ON
(Zone 4b)

February 27, 2007
5:37 PM

Post #3230545

Very timely info Windy as I'm doing Tithonia very soon and purple coneflower I just did last night, woohoo!

Tks,
Erynne
greenjay
Centennial, CO
(Zone 5b)

March 3, 2007
2:04 AM

Post #3242996

I had no problems with Tithonia when I sowed them in the water-expended jiffies. The hole in the center allowed me to sow them about 1/4 inch down and they still had light exposure. The Tithonia gets really massive stems, and surface sowing doesn't cut it for me. The jiffies gave them room to grow before setting them out.

just remember to completely remove the netting thet encloses the jiffie and spread the roots a bit when you transplant.
Windy
Belleville , IL
(Zone 6b)

March 3, 2007
1:57 PM

Post #3243961

When you surface sow you still have to press them into the medium. I just had zero germination when I used to cover the seed.
Impatiens balsamina is another one that is surface sown. Most of the plants in your garden that self-sow are the ones that require light to germinate. Not all, but most. Some end up covered by heavy rains and other means and then self-sow.
Perilla needs light also.
SandyRN
Blackwood, NJ
(Zone 7a)

March 5, 2007
6:47 PM

Post #3250776

With tithonia (Mex. Sunflower), I just push the narrow, pointy end into the wet peat wafer just like you're pushing in a tack. Then I just leave the top part exposed. Seems to work well.
Erynne
Orangeville, ON
(Zone 4b)

March 5, 2007
9:03 PM

Post #3251180

I sowed my Tithonia on the 28th of Feb and here is a pic of one that couldn't wait to get growing just a few days later. The others are a little smaller. You can see the discarded seed husk beside it. I didn't know they germinated sooooo fast!

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Windy
Belleville , IL
(Zone 6b)

March 6, 2007
12:45 AM

Post #3251964

It seems there is always one eager to germinate ahead of every other seed in the pot. I am still amazed with seeds and how they can produce such perfect plants from just a "dead" looking dried up old seed. Such a miracle.
Zarebeth
Circle Pines, MN
(Zone 4b)

March 14, 2007
4:18 PM

Post #3280405

Excellent! I bought Tithonia for the first time this year, and now I have some great tips on growing it!
greenjay
Centennial, CO
(Zone 5b)

March 15, 2007
3:56 AM

Post #3283031

You will love Tuthonia if you remember to plant them far enough apart. "Torch" grows 5' tall and 3' wide in my hellstrip bed. I can't imagine what it would do if you gave it water and decent soil... LOL
Zarebeth
Circle Pines, MN
(Zone 4b)

March 15, 2007
12:42 PM

Post #3283645

Yeah, I was kind of surprised to see how big they get when I read the package. I also got some sunflowers, and I was thinking about planting them together along the fence in the back of the yard. I know they are butterfly magnets, but do they have seeds for the birds, too?
Windy
Belleville , IL
(Zone 6b)

March 15, 2007
3:19 PM

Post #3284163

Here is a picture of what came by along with numerous other types. I would have as many as four on one flower when I grew them up by the house.

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tabasco
Cincinnati (Anderson, OH
(Zone 6a)

July 12, 2007
12:24 AM

Post #3725536


Hi, found this thread while looking for tithonia germination info-- perhaps one of you more experienced tithonia growers will have the answer--

I started several tithonia "fiesta del sol" seeds about six weeks ago and they are coming up in a large pot. Is it possible for you tell me how long your take until first bloom?

Thank you very much. t.



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