My house was absolutely too crowded to start seeds plus I hate for them to get leggy and attract insects. Therefore I waited until today to start the seeds, just as I begain to move the hardy house plants and brugs outside. Yes I'm pushing the season a tad. Some seeds are old, but I've heard they can be like 10 years old and still germinate.
I've planted what are suppose to be the below:
Large White (Inoxia)
Purple Speckled White Datura (Mutant)
Raspberry Swirl (Discolor)
Black Current Swirl
Some were seeds from Daturas I've grown and some are seeds from DGers. I planted inside because they have to have heat to germinate and it's still a tad cool outside.
Happy Datura Growing To Everyone!!! If they all germinate and grow well there will be seeds for everyone at season end.
Unlike the previous two years, this years batch of mine is growing like crazy .. usually I can count on them being comotose for a couple of weeks. Everything that's been repotted in the greenhouse is going crazy .. must be the warmer nights in the 50's instead of 40's. I probably won't feed them any time soon .. they need to slow down caise I'm not ready.
Seeds planted 3/12 Ready or not here they come ...
White Large (Inoxia)
White Datura Purple Speckled (Mutant)
Remind me to abuse ALL of them next Spring like I did this container.
I put them in a Wal-Mart container (sticky buns came in), put them on my monitor for bottom heat. A few days later, I notice the container was covered in condensation, opened it and found a tad of white fuzzy on many of the seeds, looked like mold to me. I toyed with the idea of dumping the whole thing, but instead left the top open so they would dry out.
This is what they look like this morning. Only one of the White W/Purple Specks has sprouted. The None of Purple/Lauvender seeds have sprouted but the seeds are OLD, but we'll keep watching them since some just take longer to sprout than others. . The seeds that sprouted are 2005 seeds.
That is interesting. I'm assuming they all got equal light. It appears that the inoxia is more photosensative than the purples. Might be because the dark purple stems may absorb more light than the green ones.
They have purple stems but I have never noticed it on the seedlings, probably because I hadn't sprouted them together before. There is a PlantFile picture which shows the stems http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/30168/
Judy, they look beautiful... thanks to X I for the tips and mine are all growing... and since I didn't believe they would start I kept planting and now I have about 72 plants!!!!! and I am not getting rid of any... well I mean I will give to friends but I am giving all of them a chance!!!! I have a huge patch to plant... so this year it will daturas all over...
I had to shake and curse mine... but they came out... and of course I lost some labels so it will be a surprise which color they will be!!!
What will you do with your seedlings since they're a bit leggy like mine? Can you bury 'em up to the leaves like tomatoes?
I'd post pictures of mine, but my other half is out of town with the digital camera.
Seandor, I have datura seeds coming up that were planted 2 months ago. Sometimes they pop right up and other times they can take months. A big factor is how warm the soil is. Don't give up and try the Curse n Stir method. That works too.
Curse and stir! Well, I suspect soil temperature has something to do with it. I do not have a heat pad, and Our Old House is normally in the 58 to 62 degree range for about 20 hours a day. (We do heat it up when company comes over!).
For all that doubt the curse & stir method...I planted a package of yellow double daturas Feb 4/047 and finally gave up March 4/07 when I spied a package of purple double's in a local store here for $9.00 Cdn a package. So determined I was to own datura's this year for the first time, I bought the package of 10 seeds and they all sprouted 2 weeks later. I used the pot that had the yellow daturas seeds , just stired the soil and planted a purple datura transplant which is now about 5 inches high. Just 2 weeks ago I noticed that there was another seedling in the pot, then next day another, I now have 8 yellow datura babies along with 10 purple. The yellow have a way to go to catch up with the purple in size, but I'm so excited. They may be in bloom by the time I plant outside !
Riverland, your yellow dat stem should lighten up as they grow .. a lot of them start out dark then green up.
Seandor, don't give up hope. As I keep saying, datura can be slow or fast. You can give up after a year.
I started a bunch of old seeds from a mix I had to get fresh seeds (a little garden helper friend decided to combine all my double seeds into one container so I'd have more containers.) They can be be white, purple, yellow or cream n sugar. If you like I'll send you some plants. All I ask is that you send me some seeds back. These guys took months to come up. They have doubled/tripled in size since I took this picture.
I'm trying to figure out why some of you think datura is fragile. It is not! They are tough as nails and take tons of abuse. For over a decade now I have planted, transplanted, replanted and even trimmed roots of datura and they don't even blink. They are weeds you know.
I have had squirrels dig them up and shred them to pieces only to have them come back if you stick the roots back in the ground. I have chopped them up, thrown them on a compost pile and have had the pieces come back as new little plants. I've had them survive hard freezes into the 20's. I've over watered them and underwatered them, heck 1 dat plant even caught on fire when my stupid neighbor shot off a rocket sideways on the 4th a few years back and it survived.
The only thing they seem to succumb to are bug attacks. You've all seen the picture of the dat that was chewed to pieces by bugs making the leaves look like lace, only to come back big and strong producing my best flowers of the year after treating it with sevin dust.
I'm sure they can be over wintered, but the problem is that once you let them go to seed they get really ugly. They really are easy to grow from seed and I'm surprised at the trouble you are having. What are you using for potting medium? I use ProMix BX .. a peat based potting mix and just barely cover them. But I'll say it again, dats can come up fast or be slow as molassas in January.
Did you just have one variety of seeds or is the problem widespread among different varieties? I'm at a loss.
I received seeds for the black currant swirl variety. I suspect I can't get it warm enough. I might have to take them to my office. I did shake them and curse them (Kassia told me to!) But it didn't help much.
I am taking them to the office. I suspect they are going to germinate so late, that the most I can hope for this year is one flush of flowers from which I can take seeds so that next year I can really enjoy these plants.
Hi Riverland, you asked about the stem colouring on my double yellow dat's. Mine are difinetly yellow stemed, where the purple dat's are purple stems. The largest ones are about 8 inches tall, and someone here said that they like to bloom at 8 inches, so I can only hope and wait. I can't plant out here until 3rd week of May, maybe 2nd week but that's really pushing it, I think.
Perhaps Xeramtheum can comment on when she would suggest hardening them off. The average temps here right now is about 60-65 F with overnight lows about 35-45F, in May we can still get frost. Our average last frost date is May 15, so last year when we had a really early spring, and temps were above normal I planted out annuals and lost a few, this year I'd like to be more careful, yet I am anxious to get everything out, specially the dats and amaranthus