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Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
March 18, 2007
8:19 AM Post #3294451
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I'm all for color in a home- but there is color and there is too much color.
I just bought a home that looks like the inside of a comic book, and know I have some long hours of painting in front of me. I want to use the best covering primer that exists. I know I will have to do two coats of paint afterwards, so if I can keep it to one coat of primer and two of color I will be happy.
There are a multitude of faux finish colors in every room of the house- from orange to blue to green to red. What brand/type primer would you suggest?
One example
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Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
March 18, 2007
8:19 AM Post #3294453
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And another 
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Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
March 18, 2007
8:20 AM Post #3294455
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And one more- 
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Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
March 18, 2007
8:22 AM Post #3294458
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And the worst of all-
I will be doing a sage greenish beige everywhere
Help!
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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
March 18, 2007
9:43 AM Post #3294646
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I guess someone out there isn't afraid of color! It's funny, usually I love red kitchens, but with the greenish cabinets it looks just a bit too Christmasy for me! I actually don't think those colors will be as bad to cover over as you think, what I would do is get the primer tinted with the color you're going to be painting everything, then hopefully one coat of primer plus two coats of paint should do fine. |
claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)
March 18, 2007
10:00 AM Post #3294706
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The red will probably be the hardest to cover- geez, that kitchen is bad... I can handle some of the others, from here anyway.
I'd tell the paint store what you're up against. There is a grey primer that's used to prime before you use a dark red, for example. It would probably cover red well too. I'd go with priming twice, then your color, because primer is cheaper than paint. That way if you're using white paint, one coat might be enough. |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
March 18, 2007
10:58 AM Post #3294874
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Well- you'll be further amazed that I haven't even seen the place in person yet, and let me tell you, I'm not looking forward to walking in the door that first time. I might be overwhelmed to the point of collapse.
I really favor more soothing colors, and almost didn't even have my family go look at this home purely because of the interior colors. But it is a perfect place in every other way so I decided to take a deep breath and make the plunge. If nothing else I will get a very impressive set of "before and after" photos.
I'll check with the guys at the paint store- I'm getting all my supplies before we go so I can start right up first thing. Trust me- I will have that place half painted before we unpack anything but the coffee pot. I doubt I'd be able to sleep without a blindfold.
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
March 18, 2007
5:19 PM Post #3296183
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LOL. Those are certainly bright colors. I like some of them but only a little. lol |
terryr
Bureau County, IL
(Zone 5a)
March 18, 2007
6:05 PM Post #3296403
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If you buy your primer tinted partially of to the color you plan on using, you don't need 2 coats of primer. I've successfully re-painted over Navy with only 1 coat of primer tinted to the color I was going to use. |
claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)
March 18, 2007
6:47 PM Post #3296580
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I guess it's debatable which is easier and cheaper, using five different tinted primers or running over the whole place with one twice. |
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
March 18, 2007
7:06 PM Post #3296643
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Cearbhaill mentioned painting everything a sagey greenish beige, that's why I suggested tinting the primer. I agree if all the rooms are getting different colors that might be more trouble than it's worth but if they're all getting the same color I think that's a better way to go. |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
March 19, 2007
2:00 AM Post #3296992
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Yes- the whole house will be sage beige with the exception of baths and kitchen, which are yet to be determined, but will be on the lighter end of the spectrum. The actual color is called buckwheat, but is sagey beige. I will be duplicating this room as best I can- 
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claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)
March 19, 2007
1:21 PM Post #3298819
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I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that - maybe I was dizzy from looking at all the different colored rooms?
That's about the color in my house. I mixed the paint so some walls are darker or lighter, just to break it up a little. Wow, try saying
"sagey-beige" 3 times fast... |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
March 20, 2007
5:51 PM Post #3303635
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LOL. that is hard to do. Now I will be doing that all day tomorrow. |
greenlawn
Albany, GA
(Zone 8b)
April 26, 2007
2:52 PM Post #3434408
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dont know if you have painted yet.My husband and I have dont a lot of painting and the best primer we have found is Kilz.You can tint it or not.either way it will cover really well. good luck with the painting. hopefully you wont get eye damage from all that color! |
susiek57
Aurora, IL
(Zone 5a)
June 3, 2007
10:38 PM Post #3571783
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When you prime, get a primer that says "stain blocker" or "stain killer". With 1 coat, the wall(s) will not be pure white like new walls (especially with those strong colours) but it will keep those colors from bleeding through your final coat. |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 6, 2007
3:36 PM Post #3583207
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Well... everything has finally been primered- it took two coats, but it's done.
Photos towards the bottom of the page at
[HYPERLINK@www.cearbhaill.com]
I have some remodeling coming up and won't put the color on until after they are done working, but the colors had to go just on general principle. I even primered a wall that is going to be taken out.
We are sleeping better already! |
claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)
June 6, 2007
5:13 PM Post #3583758
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The Wolfhounds should be very happy there, that's a nice place! Glad you could see past the small stuff and wound up with a great place.
My brother the 'wiseguy' architect always makes a crack about "unlimited potential" when looking at a house, so I got a good laugh from your comment about the yard. In defense of that poor tree, it looks like it was traumatized a long time ago, as if it had been topped by lightning or disease or something else. Just curious, what kind was it?
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Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 8, 2007
8:41 AM Post #3590319
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To add insult to injury it was our state tree- they were Kentucky Coffee trees, and yes they looked to me as if they had been hatracked multiple times over the years.
Oddly- the guy I had take them out confessed to having trimmed them the year before and he said the previous owner stood there and made him trim them that way. He said he hated them as well and was ashamed of having worked on them.
Previous owner had heard that I was going to remove them and she left me a handwritten note detailing their beauty and how "the heart of the house" rested within them. "Everyone loves them so!" and so on.
Well- every neighbor we have spoken to (and it is a very friendly neighborhood) has thanked us for removing the eyesores from the community. They all said they hated them.
The only person who could have remotely thought those trees were beautiful is someone who doesn't know jack about trees. I dislike the previous owner more each day! |
terryr
Bureau County, IL
(Zone 5a)
June 9, 2007
11:07 PM Post #3596992
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Kentucky state tree is the Liriodendron tulipifera, not Gymnocladus dioicus (Kentucky Coffee tree). It had been at one time, but it is no more. Read about it here
[HYPERLINK@www.netstate.com] |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 10, 2007
7:46 AM Post #3597500
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Thanks terryr- that just goes to show how old I am. The house was built in '55, right when coffe trees were becoming popular, so I am sure they were original to the house.
Fascinating story and great links. |
terryr
Bureau County, IL
(Zone 5a)
June 10, 2007
8:08 PM Post #3599829
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LOL Cearbhaill! It does seem that since its name is Kentucky Coffee tree, it would be the state tree. We lived in TN for awhile, so that's how I came to find out that they both share the same state tree. It's just too bad that the PO thought topping the trees was a good thing. |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 11, 2007
9:08 AM Post #3601454
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She thought lots of absurd notions were good ideas, the paint colors being the least of them. She literally painted great wads of dog hair into the basement floors. She leaft stinking filthy pet stained area rugs in every room. I think we literally saved this house.. |
terryr
Bureau County, IL
(Zone 5a)
June 11, 2007
9:31 AM Post #3601534
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Your PO and my PO! Gosh, we could write a book together! LOL! Our home was built in 1896. I like to think we saved this house from continuing to deteriorate. One good example. Instead of taking down the foyer plaster ceiling because it was falling down, they had somebody come in and put those really long nails in it. I don't know my nails, but is a sixteen penny one of the really long ones? Anyway, after pounding a nail per couple inches, they used something to do what I call stipple (sp) on the ceiling. I'm not sure what the material they used was, but it looked stalactites on the ceiling. You could see the poor plaster couldn't handle the weight of those things and was drooping, it didn't meet along the walls etc. I had the PO on the phone one day and I told her that we had taken down the foyer ceiling. She about had a cow. She claimed she "had just had it fixed". That was her idea of "fixing". Sad, very sad. I say lots of times that I think I hear the house sigh and say thank you...lol... |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 14, 2007
9:53 PM Post #3616427
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Cear, you are joking right? DOG HAIR????? And here I thought the rats, their droppings, horse droppings, and tons of bugs were bad. Along with old spagetti in the stove. House was empty for a year when we bought it, somewhat empty for another year while we worked nights getting this one livable. Still have lots to do. kitchen, siding, flooring, some doors that need replaced but have to custom order them, windows, probably guttering, fix foundation cracks, etc, etc. Been here 10 yrs now. |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 16, 2007
9:02 AM Post #3621420
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Dog hair.
This is what the first session of duct cleaning pulled out...
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greenlawn
Albany, GA
(Zone 8b)
June 17, 2007
10:16 PM Post #3627684
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ohhh yuck! I hope you wore a mask! |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 18, 2007
6:28 AM Post #3628495
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Please- I had that done before we even moved in. I was afraid to breathe! |
lisa70123
New Orleans, LA
June 21, 2007
4:47 PM Post #3642361
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I have had success with Kilz brand as well as the basic primer sold by Sherwin Williams. You might avoid having to apply extra coates of paint down the line if you have your primer tinted to match the color of the paint you intend to put on the walls. I recently had to paint over red walls in my own house. (I was covering the red with a chopstick beige/yellow). Thanks to the tinted primer, I ended up only having to apply 1 coat of paint instead of two (I applied 2 coats primer + 1 coat of paint). Good luck! |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
June 21, 2007
10:57 PM Post #3643797
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I just today finished the first room- it took two coats of color on top of the two coats of primer. All the other rooms are primered and waiting for me if I could just find the time.
I am just so happy to have one room done- it gives me hope for the rest of the home.
The yellow dining referenced above in Post #3294874 now looks like this:
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 22, 2007
7:00 AM Post #3644515
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Looks great!!! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
July 9, 2007
10:20 AM Post #3714608
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Wow, you truly worded it well when you used the term
'comic book' to describe the walls when you first bought the home.
You did save the house. Congrats! :-) |
MB1003
Pasadena, TX
February 15, 2008
1:23 AM Post #4540669
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Wow, you did a great job! What brand and color did you use? |
Cearbhaill
Russell, KY
(Zone 6b)
February 15, 2008
8:39 AM Post #4541095
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Glidden- can't remember the color offhand.
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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
February 15, 2008
9:19 PM Post #4544135
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Pink? Blue? Polka dots? LOL |
greenlawn
Albany, GA
(Zone 8b)
February 20, 2008
9:17 PM Post #4566315
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That does look good. I like the curtains and loooove the bookcases. |
