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swampguy
Baton Rouge, LA

April 5, 2007
4:05 PM

Post #3358951

Any advice on starting from seed? I was going to put them into seeding cubes and when they were sprouted and a few set of leaves I was going to move them to the yard. Sound good? Thanks, Tim
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

April 5, 2007
6:36 PM

Post #3359426

Sounds pretty good. Keep in mind, some datura spring up seemingly over night and others can take months. Bottom heat seems to speed them up a bit. Some people even soak them.

Keep us posted on your progress!

X
amarantha00
San Bernardino, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 10, 2007
4:29 PM

Post #3376489

If soaking the seeds speeds germination, what should they be soaked in? I've got some seeds as well, and I've never grown datura before.

thanks!
beckygardener
(Becky) in Sebastian, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 10, 2007
8:21 PM

Post #3377156

I, too, am growing Datura from seed for the first time this year. I have no experience with Datura at all.

I sowed the seeds in some garden beds. I have noticed that they have germinated and have sprouted their first set of leaves. Been that way for a couple weeks now. How long does it take before more leaves appear? And do they normally grow pretty fast? I am in a warm zone. Do they bloom the first year?
crystalnurse
Saint Louis, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 10, 2007
9:38 PM

Post #3377433

I had 3 Datura plants that I grew from seed. All bloomed the first year and all were at least 4 ft high or larger. The purple did the best.

This year I bought those little dehydrated disc that you add water to and they pop up like a tiny web pot. I used about twice as much water as the directions tell ya to. I put them in the mini greenhouse (bascially a clear plastic lid over a box). I put about 6 seeds per pot and placed them under florescent lights about 6 inchs from the top of the container.

The purple sprouted in about a week, the yellow and white took about 10 days to sprout.

The datura scent is wonderful, I'm going to plant them with my canna this year. Purple and Red should look pretty.
beckygardener
(Becky) in Sebastian, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 10, 2007
9:43 PM

Post #3377443

Thanks, crystalnurse! I appreciate all the info you've shared! I have a bunch of them sprouting and I am not sure how far apart to seperate and replant them?
amarantha00
San Bernardino, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 10, 2007
11:47 PM

Post #3377805

Yes Crystal, thanks!!

I've got some triple white, black currant swirl, and purple Hemingway. I'm excited now :-)

karen
crystalnurse
Saint Louis, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 11, 2007
9:07 AM

Post #3378537

By the end of the summer, my purple one was about 3 ft wide and taller than 4 ft. I planted it out in front of the house and people would stop and stare at it. The bugs pretty well left it alone after one treatment with "Seven" bug stuff.

The bugs loved my Brugmansia and I had to treat them often. The Datura bloomed all season for me. The Brugs didn't take off till near the end of summer. Won't be doing as many Brugs this year.

Hope this helps ya a bit. This is a picture of the purple one from last year.

Crystall

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Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

April 11, 2007
10:05 AM

Post #3378758

Please be judicious in your use of Sevin. I only use it in containers and never on the ground. It is very earthworm and good microorganism unfriendly!

Datura seed take their own sweet time in sprouting. I have some in the greenhouse that were planted in January and are just starting to come up. So be patient!

X
crystalnurse
Saint Louis, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 11, 2007
10:58 AM

Post #3378947

Hi X
Thanks for the info on Seven. I know it comes in a "sprinkle" container. I don't use it that way, though. I put into a pan and use a paint brush and sort of paint it onto the leaves very sparingly - goes a long way. I didn't know that it's not worm friendly. Thanks

Crystal
swampguy
Baton Rouge, LA

April 11, 2007
1:24 PM

Post #3379481

Thanks y'all, Tim
swampguy
Baton Rouge, LA

April 26, 2007
3:11 PM

Post #3433714

It has been 18 days and still know sign of life! How much longer do you think?
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

April 26, 2007
4:44 PM

Post #3434030

I'll repeat what i said above, it can take months. I had some seeds I planted in January that only started coming up 6 weeks ago. Datura take their own time. Some come up fast and others take months.

X
crystalnurse
Saint Louis, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2007
5:11 PM

Post #3434115

Swampguy,
Can I send you some of my purple datura seeds?

Crystal
swampguy
Baton Rouge, LA

April 26, 2007
5:34 PM

Post #3434192

I would really appreciate that Crystal. I emailed you my info, Thanks,Tim
swampguy
Baton Rouge, LA

May 10, 2007
10:30 AM

Post #3482685

2/4 have sprouted. How big should they be before I plant in the ground? How big will they get?
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2007
10:55 AM

Post #3482757

I transplant when when they get the size of what's in the picture. They can grow very tall, up to 8 to 10 feet in ideal conditions. If grown in a large container they get about 5 feet tall.

X

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crystalnurse
Saint Louis, MO
(Zone 6a)

May 30, 2007
12:54 PM

Post #3552082

Hi Tim
I was wondering if your Datura seeds are growing for you. Keep us updated.

Crystal
AuntAnne
College Station, TX
(Zone 8b)

May 30, 2007
1:29 PM

Post #3552231

I have some black currant swirl that X sent me. I planted 2 of them about 3 weeks ago. One came up quickly, I'm still waiting for the second. I've since planted 3 more. I put everything in my kitchen window. It gets some good morninig sun. That is when we see the sun around here. lol

Anne
swampguy
Baton Rouge, LA

June 3, 2007
6:31 PM

Post #3569876

Crystalnurse, I have some of the seeds you sent me sprouting. I put them in rapid rooter cubes.

When should I plant in the yard?
crystalnurse
Saint Louis, MO
(Zone 6a)

June 3, 2007
8:58 PM

Post #3570259

I put a lot of mine out when they were about an inch tall or with their 2nd set of leaves. Some I just planted straight outside in the soil and they are growing well.

I'm so happy that they sprouted, good job!

Crystal
americanwoman
Redford, MI
(Zone 6a)

June 4, 2007
3:45 PM

Post #3573370

Thanks for the info. I have a few double white seeds that I forgot I had. I do have small peat pots and will start them today. It will be interesting to see how long they take to sprout.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

June 4, 2007
3:46 PM

Post #3573375

Good luck! .. please be aware that datura seeds take their own sweet time. Some seem to jump up over night and others can take weeks to months! Yes months! Just be patient.

X
Seandor
Springfield, MA
(Zone 6a)

June 13, 2007
10:41 PM

Post #3611763

My datura seeds finally germinated about 14 days ago - after what seemed like months of agonizing.

This message was edited Jun 13, 2007 6:42 PM
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

June 14, 2007
12:01 AM

Post #3612053

WTG for having such patience! Hope they turn out to be worth the wait!

X
Seandor
Springfield, MA
(Zone 6a)

June 18, 2007
7:53 PM

Post #3630361

I know datura are supposed to be annuals - but any chance I can keep one or two in the house or office over the winter?
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

June 19, 2007
12:53 AM

Post #3631407

Rather than trying to keep the original plant thru the winter, why don't you take some cuttings and root them around August to winter over. What ever you decide to do, don't let the plants you want to keep set seeds. It diminishes the quality and health of the plant considerably.

X
Seandor
Springfield, MA
(Zone 6a)

June 19, 2007
12:55 AM

Post #3631423

Oh! okay - target one for cuttings, and let the others set seed - excellent idea. Thanks, Xerantheum :-)
crystalnurse
Saint Louis, MO
(Zone 6a)

June 19, 2007
3:22 AM

Post #3632058

I tried to keep two of my large plants over the winter. Both died. One I kept in the garage, thinking it might go dormant - nope, it died. The other I kept in my heated basement by the walkout door for sunlight. Didn't make it either and that one I babied.

Luckily, they gave me plenty of seeds. I have 4 that are already about 2.5 ft tall (already forming buds) and a bunch of babies growing. I just loved these last year.
Seandor
Springfield, MA
(Zone 6a)

June 19, 2007
12:17 PM

Post #3632703

See . . . my problem is mine are only 3 inches tall - so I am not sure they will have time to set seeds . . . and they are the black currant swirl . . . so I will do as X says and take cuttings from at least one of them :-)

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 7, 2007
12:40 AM

Post #3704939

By now, I guess it's to late to sow NEW seeds?
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 7, 2007
1:16 AM

Post #3705105

Give it a try .. If the seeds are fast germinators you'll probably get some flowers.

X

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 7, 2007
1:21 AM

Post #3705127

Way to go!!!! Thank you X. I'll keep you posted how it works out. Thank you.
K

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 7, 2007
5:28 PM

Post #3707295

I tried winter sowing some -- and nothing.

though i am not giving up.

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 7, 2007
5:38 PM

Post #3707327

tcs;
Hang in there, these seeds are unpredictable. I tried babying them, and they wouldn't sprout. I found them sprouting like mad out in the open garden this spring. And transplanted them into pot where I wanted them since they're fussy being in the garden and being pesterized by slugs/snail and others.

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