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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 14, 2007
1:21 PM

Post #3390439

I was chatting with someone in the UK last summer about seeds for silk floss tree. It was late summer and they are only available in 'spring'. I have some now, but, I cannot find the thread or an email from the requestor. If entrance into heaven is based on filing skills I am doomed!

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 15, 2007
4:28 PM

Post #3394803

Hey wow what...
You have silk floss seeds! How many pints of my blood would you lke??? I can also offer kidneys and even my heart if needed!

I'm hoping it was me you where talking to as i keep bringing it up every now and again.

This is the Ceibia type Silkfloss tree isn't it? With fantastic flowers and spkes on the trunk?

Woooooo i'm excited now.

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 15, 2007
4:51 PM

Post #3394884

Yep, that be the one.
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 15, 2007
5:00 PM

Post #3394907

From:
Dale, The Gardener
2806 B East Clark
Tampa Fl 33605

TO:
Michael Frecklington
20 Church Lane, Reepham
Lincoln, LN3 4DQ

Yes?

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 15, 2007
5:08 PM

Post #3394939

Oh, blood and guts are not necessary, first born child is a more traditional offering. Then we negotiate
mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 16, 2007
8:30 AM

Post #3396921

No problem, I have just changed his nappy so hes not so smelly! lol

Seriously though, what can i offer for this most wanted plant?

Think i need to move to florida, 2 of my most wanted plants seem to live there. Phicks sent me the other last year (nelumbo). I had one accident but luckily the other seed is doing really well!.

Don't forget i'm "United Kingdom"

Speak soon

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 16, 2007
5:02 PM

Post #3398664

snail mail sent today, about 7 hours ago. 5-7 days to arrival.

I will think of something devious for you to do later in life. Cost me about US2.50 to send. My beer costs more than that.
mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 17, 2007
4:50 AM

Post #3400452

Now devious i like the sound of... heheh.

I think i may pass out if they make it! I'll be like a kid in a sweet shop..

Next question though any idea how to grow these boys? I'm guessing some kind of technical germination and thats why there like rocking horse droppings.

Dale are you they guy that has the really nice garden you posted pics of last year? Possibly an organge tree in your front garden and some urn type pots outside?

Mike
mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 17, 2007
4:55 AM

Post #3400454

Dale just been looking through your trade list trying to find something i can send you in return,
I did have Iochroma (mini angels trumpet) Blue
Well i say i did... i still do but there in a pot in the electric propagator. Did you still want some? I'll look to see if i have any seed at work if you want some.

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 17, 2007
6:07 AM

Post #3400477

Seeds for Iochroma (mini angels trumpet) Blue would be nice. I am in the address exchange.

Silk Floss seed use the wind to disperse. I would think that they have no special requirements to germinate, except they like it warm? I have found that if you know the climate of origin, the season they shed their seed then you can guess what conditions are best for germination. I have never seen this tree reseed itself here. I would guess that means the seed is not fertile or temps are not right for it.

Mike, I don't have real nice gardens, I work in some real nice gardens-I am a gardener by trade. www.dalethegardener.com

Here's one now...

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 17, 2007
9:21 AM

Post #3400814

I wonder if it was pictures of one of your projects you posted.
I wanted to do gardening when i left school but the trade has such massive fluctuations i decided to do something a bit more year round. So now i run a garden centre.
www.crowders.co.uk
I'll check work tommorow for those seeds and let you know. The ones i allready sowed have leaves so i think there past sending.

Is there anything else not on you wants list, that you fancy?

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 17, 2007
4:04 PM

Post #3401984

I can't think of anything that I need.

Do you need anything else of a tropical nature? I am very adept at getting rare plants (seeds too). I figure if I build up enough 'credit' I can ask you to do something devious like send a slip of agapanthus stolen from Kew. :-)

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 18, 2007
3:50 PM

Post #3405552

Hey if i lived anywhere near Kew i would no problem at all. The uk is a small place but thats still a long way from here.
There is someone that lives nearer there "Laurie" .
Do you know which variety of Agapanthus it is youre after, or is it just because its from Kew?

This is the last of my plants to find list

Chorisia speciosa (Ceiba speciosa) silk floss tree, ceiba del Brasil, kapok
Romneya coulteri tree poppy
Sophora Japanese pagoda tree
Sollya hetrophylla

And the last 3 on there are easy enough to get from work, just havn't seen them recently.

Once i have a Silk floss i can happily die! heheh

I forgot to check those seeds at work today (wasn't anywhere near the seed section) but i will!

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 18, 2007
6:34 PM

Post #3405984

I visited Kew and was sorely impressed.

I just wish they had plant sales, just so I could say that 'This plant is from Kew Gardens'. Status symbol plant. Also, agapanthus was the only plant growing there that I know would live here. And I was being frivolous. I need to learn to use the 'LOL'.

I checked mapquest and in central Lincoln you are 145 miles from the gate at Kew and most of the trip is on the A1(M). I always took the trains when I was in London.

The plants you are seeking (above) are all West Coast-California plants. I only have low elevation (read hot & humid) plants. The seeds you want are from maritime climates that have cool temps most of the year. When you think of FL plants think Brazilian rainforest.
We have 7 months where are night time lows are around 23C. The only seeds I have that might produce an interesting plant are the Cassia, they grow and bloom in containers quite well.

I am not concerned about getting anything in return, ever. I am hoping that you are getting fertile seed and that it will sprout for you. I would like to know how they turn out, that's all.

Bromileads are widely used in the landscape here...

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

April 18, 2007
6:50 PM

Post #3406049

[quote]We have 7 months where are night time lows are around 23C[/quote]
I get about 7 days a year when the day time highs are around 23C!

Resin
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 18, 2007
7:59 PM

Post #3406293

Resin, what is umber? I get the North and the Land, but...

You weather sounds like San Francisco CA.

Philodendron I use as a groundcover...

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2007
6:23 AM

Post #3407420

[quote]Resin, what is umber? I get the North and the Land, but...[/quote]
Northumberland is a county in northeastern England. The name derives from 'North Humber Land', the land north of the River Humber. In the distant past (8th-9th centuries) Northumberland was a kingdom which extended all the way from the Humber up to Edinburgh (now in Scotland).

Resin
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 19, 2007
7:02 AM

Post #3407453

Ahh, English is such an interesting language...

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 19, 2007
3:27 PM

Post #3408857

Dale, I'm guessing Resin has a fantastic accent too, if you like English language!

The trip to Kew you are probably right, its kind of relative i suppose. Small country so it seems like a long way. Its easier and quicker (and cheaper) for me to fly to most of Europe than it is to get to London.

I do like tropical gardens in a none tropical country. Winter is a real pain though. But with low rain it could be worse!

I have recently got cassia seeds and germinated them they are about 2 weeks ahead of the Mini angels trumpets.

Cheers

Mike

mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 25, 2007
3:51 PM

Post #3429806

Hey Dale,

Now that confused me! A poster! lol

That is a first.

I took me a while to find something long enough to poke the fibres out of the tube.
I've not really had chance to explore the floss to find the seed yet though (waiting for a day when the baby isn't trying to eat everything)

I'll let you know how it goes and grows!

Speak soon

And thanks loads

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 26, 2007
8:17 PM

Post #3434659

Mike, I was working a couple doors down from the tree today and I went around picking up floss until I had found about 25 seeds.

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 26, 2007
8:18 PM

Post #3434663

I had the camera with me so...

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 26, 2007
8:20 PM

Post #3434673

It is a big tree.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

April 27, 2007
3:04 PM

Post #3437411

Wow That is a big old tree!

I'm off this weekend (thankgod!) so i'll be sorting out my seeds etc. I'll be looking through all that floss then.

Those are the seeds in that pic as far as i have read. But i can't find anything about them being viable or not all the time.
Infact there is not much about them on the tinternet.

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

April 27, 2007
4:20 PM

Post #3437641

Here's some info on a closely related species (C. pentandra):

http://www.sl.kvl.dk/upload/ceiba_pentandra_int_001.pdf (pdf file)

Resin
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 27, 2007
4:47 PM

Post #3437703

Resin, that was a great document, short and to the point, written for everyone to understand. I think I will try a sprout a few of the seeds I collected. The tree is still dropping seed.

The way the seed moves around in the wind is very interesting to see. The seed is held suspended in the center of a big round ball of very light fibers. You can see right thru the 'ball', it is almost transparent. They roll across the turf in a modest breeze, very effective way to travel.

eye candy>

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 1, 2007
6:55 AM

Post #3449927

Mike,

Since you deal with seeds on a regular basis, especially ones that most folks would consider 'rare' I am wondering if you have any research tips for me. I am trying to find out how to grow Lupinus diffusus from seed. It is a uncommon native from the SE section of the USA. I suspect that it germinates at cool temps. We don't have much rain here in the fall/winter season in central FL, which may explain why I have only found one colony and most of the plants look to be the same age. We have very few years when the fall is wet. Further north the rain is more consistent and this plant is more common.

I find Plant Piles to be very little help.

I have been checking on this group of plants every 10 days for 2 months to make sure I get some of the seed, the plants are 70 miles to the SE of my home, so it was a very lenghty process. It paid off this last Sunday and I am now the proud owner of several hundred drying seed pods. I will have at least a 1,000 seeds (or trade beads as I like to call them). If you are interested I can send some.

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2746/index.html

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 1, 2007
7:46 AM

Post #3450033

http://nfrec.ifas.ufl.edu/norcini/Publications/JEH02-46ForWeb.pdf

"Seed scarified in concentrated sulfuric acid for 90 min followed by immersion in water for 24 hr resulted in the
best emergence of viable seed (≈ 41%). Mechanical scarification with sandpaper for up to 30 min
did not improve seedling emergence. Immersing seed in 90C (194F) water which was then
allowed to cool for 24 hr apparently killed or severely injured the embryos as no seedlings
emerged from seeds treated with hot water. There was only 5% seedling emergence for
nonscarified seed that were soaked in water at room temperature for 24 hr. Emergence was not
improved by soaking scarified seed in 1000 mg/liter (ppm) GA3 for 24 hr prior to sowing the seeds"
mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 1, 2007
3:04 PM

Post #3451581

Got to hand it to her she knows where to find stuff on the internet.

I have never used any kinds of acid or anything,
As far as Lupins go i only have a couple of the less common ones, plus some common as muck.
Lupin band of nobles mixed Sow feb to june or sept to oct at 15-20c cover lightly takes 18-21 days.
Lupin gallery blue Sow feb to june or sept to oct at 15-20c cover lightly takes 18-21 days.
Lupin gallery pink Sow feb to june or sept to oct at 15-20c cover lightly takes 18-21 days.
Lupinus arboreus plummy blue Sow in autumn fresh seed leave out in all weather cover with sand takes 2-3 weeks.
Lupinus texensis Sow in autumn in a cold frame.

Also this fella who looks promising so far (not a real Lupin but worth a dabble)

Thermopsis lupinoides Sow in autumn or spring cover lightly use a cold greenhouse.

If you manage to get some growing i would love to try those seeds if you have some to spare after getting the plants you need.
If you do then i could send some to Janet as she s just down the road from me if thats acceptable?

Have fun

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 1, 2007
6:05 PM

Post #3452181

Janet and MIke,

I will have plenty of seed to spare and this plant is hardy to Z6, that should include most of the UK. And from Paris south. It is a rabbit ear leaf ground cover. If I do have success with it I will make sure it doesn't set much seed. The plants I got these from are looking badly using all their resources on seed. We are having a drought, 1" of rain in the last 4 months, it is dry-deep.

Janet, I have GA-3 (gibberellic acid) in the fridge. I use it on some of those pesky S.African seeds that I get fresh, it really helps break domancy in some, especially the bulbs. I was thinking of trying it, not now however. Now, where does one find concentrated sulfuric acid? Not at the local grocery.

I am going to get a few to go for me.

I have also been crossing specie and hybrid amayllis. Willy Nilly with the pollen and no record keeping. I am working with one of the forces of nature, but, can't make up my mind if it is choas or anarchy?

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 1, 2007
6:29 PM

Post #3452248

I think I have enough lupins thanks Dale, no room for those!

I have a blue/white and a red Lulu which has set to make a purple. Several seedlings this year but I don't want them all!

Also a self set soft bluish colour which appears to be a tree lupin from who knows where.

If you know someone who works in a laboratory they should have concentrated sulphuric acid (a school). OR make your own!

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/parade/rbd41/sa.htm

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 1, 2007
6:46 PM

Post #3452296

Dearest Wallaby,

You are the mad scientist I have heard about, your information is quite 'charming'. I think I'll just steal one of my neighbor's car batteries in the wee hours.

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 1, 2007
6:52 PM

Post #3452309

Was that too difficult? We didn't think of battery acid did we! Good idea!
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 1, 2007
7:11 PM

Post #3452385

Years ago the Auto Parts stores sold acid to put in you battery, I wonder if it is still available? Time to do a local web search.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 2, 2007
2:54 PM

Post #3455543

Janet you worry me with what you find on the internet. Next it will be bomb making equipment! lol
Good luck with the acid. We used to use acid of some kind for putting in the water when watering plants. Can;t for the life of me remember what type it was. I know it used to make a real mess of your clothes even when you didn't think you'd splashed.

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 2, 2007
4:39 PM

Post #3455917

Mike, I already know where the bomb making sites are, they have been around for years. It is the seed germination info I can never seem to find.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 2, 2007
4:55 PM

Post #3455990

Heheh good answer.
mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 5, 2007
3:51 PM

Post #3466036

Heyyy wooooo hooooo, I have ceibia seeds! Now all i have to do is get them to grow... any ideas anyone?

Speak soon

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 5, 2007
3:55 PM

Post #3466043

Here is the method, thanks to Resin.

http://www.sl.kvl.dk/upload/ceiba_pentandra_int_001.pdf

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 5, 2007
4:43 PM

Post #3466163

Hey Cheers loads,

Now i thought i'd surprise you with sending those mini angles trumpet seed (Acnistus) but i'm struggling to find a site in the Uk or the Us! Do you know anywhere that sells them?
Not that its a surprise now though!

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 5, 2007
8:53 PM

Post #3466752

I have not been able to find any, Thompson & Morgan sold them, but, no longer.

I would prefer a starter plant. I am not that good with seeds.

I found a nursery in Oregon, USA that sells the plant and they turned out to be jerks. They told me that they would only ship the plant by FedEx, that it would take 10 days to get to FL, and that if it died I would not be able to get a replacement.

Some of my orchids>

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 6, 2007
3:42 AM

Post #3467577

The white one is nice, what is it?

I did find a plant at about 34 dollars and 30 dollars, thought i could probably fly over and bring one of mine cheaper!

I got mine from T&M its a shame you didn't ask me a few months ago, when i had the seed. I'm really hoping that i get plants that make it to flowering size now though and set seed!. Not a clue how to get to that stage though. i'm at the true leaf stage now thats all!

Speak soon

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 6, 2007
6:27 AM

Post #3467700

Orchid is Cattleya hybrid, I am useless when it comes to plant tags and names. I take care of the orchids for my clients. Every few years they need to be divided. I chop up the plants, return the best parts to their containers & the rest goes home with me. I grow them on and then give them away, once in awhile I keep one.

If I kept every plant that goes through my hands in a year I would have to plant in the neighbors yard (for several houses in all directions). I could stock a small nursery with my leftovers. I have people stop by sometimes and ask if I sell plants. Many folks in the neighborhood stop by for advice. I have a sign on a stick that I put in the ground by the curb that says "FREE" and then surround it with the orphans. People from the area cruise by on Thursday to see what is waiting for a new home. This week there will be 3 #3cans of red Hibiscus, a part tray of 4" coleus India Frills, 3 full trays of Impatiens and assorted odds and ends. The wholesale nurseries where I buy plants are miles away, out of town. I have to buy a few extra in case some get trashed or for other reasons. It is better to buy 6 extra 4" coleus (@ 60 cents) than to drive 25 miles thru city traffic to get more. On one of my jobs (the yard is 180' by 180') I took out several banana clumps. The total plants, when divided up, was about 25. I put the clumps out on the curb and they were gone before I had finished my breakfast.

About the seed potential of Acnistus australis. If you have humming birds they will do all the work for you. I check Plant Piles every now and again to see if someone has a plant they want to part with. No luck so far. I am not very good with seed.

Here is my front drive, from this winter, with the plants I had bought. I try and get all my plants once a week. Saves time and gasoline (& every one gets the trip charge)>

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
8:10 AM

Post #3467828

Try chilternseeds.co.uk

http://www.edirectory.co.uk/chilternseeds/pages/moreinfo.asp?pe=FBFEDCEQ_+&cid=211

I have a tall plant of the supposedly white one in the greenhouse, it appeared to die back over winter but is now shooting from all the stem to the top. I got it in a swap with someone, a blue too but it was fragile and loosened in the compost so died.
mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 6, 2007
3:20 PM

Post #3469033

Dale humingbirds? Do you know where i'm from? lol

Cheers Janet, just sent him a couple of packets (he's bound to get one plant from 2 packs.)
I checked chilterns last night but couldn't find them... odd really.. i was probably spelling them wrong.

Cheers

Mike
wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
3:41 PM

Post #3469078

I noticed today mine has flower buds!
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 6, 2007
4:35 PM

Post #3469204

Mike, Bee's then? I thought you had hummers on that side of the pond. Mainland Europe have them?

Janet, seems everything you have grows so well (success comes with good plant choices). Can you post more photos of your lovely garden or do I need to stop by and shoot the place up myself?

today>

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
4:45 PM

Post #3469234

No hummers anywhere in Europe as far as I know! Only escapees

http://www.rubythroat.org/OtherSpeciesMain.html

Dale, we need rain, and it's a busy time! And I need to sort out my pics! You are welcome to stop by, plant shoots allowed only!
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 6, 2007
4:49 PM

Post #3469248

Without a person in the photo how will we be able to have a sense of scale?

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 6, 2007
4:50 PM

Post #3469254

I am not afraid to put my self portrait on the web>

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
4:54 PM

Post #3469262

Now that's just how I imagined you look Dale!

You had better post a better pic or from now your name is Pumpkin Head.
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 6, 2007
6:35 PM

Post #3469623

OK, that I can do, here I am having lunch>

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 6, 2007
6:37 PM

Post #3469630

And of course, the family portrait>

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
7:04 PM

Post #3469726

Wacky!

Now here I am, pan faced...

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 7, 2007
2:28 AM

Post #3470909

Heheh There was me fast asleep. And you guys where having fun.

Does the Pan faced travel across the pond? Dale has anyone told your family they smell like onions?

Worryingly why do you have pics like that to hand?

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
6:35 AM

Post #3471024

Mike, my reasons are the same for everything, because I can.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 7, 2007
1:01 PM

Post #3472278

Hehe Yeah i can go with that!

Hey rain ... at last... rain!

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
8:45 PM

Post #3473739

I had to go over to Orlando (80 miles east) today to get some plant materials. The area is known for it's theme parks. At one of the Disney Parks (Epcot) they have a big early summer flower. Here are a couple of things I saw.

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
8:47 PM

Post #3473744

2

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Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
8:47 PM

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
8:49 PM

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
8:51 PM

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
8:53 PM

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 7, 2007
8:55 PM

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I took 182 photos in my travels today and I need to get busy filing the ones I am going to keep. So you will understand if I am feeling a little>

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wallaby1
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2007
7:23 AM

Post #3475000

It looks like you went into the theme parks to get all those! Don't those bright colours go well in a hot climate...love the floating baskets backed by all that colour dangling down to the water.

Amazing handiworks, I guess that's Pluto, so well done. I wonder what happens when it starts to look ragged, someone must have to keep that well clipped.

Did it make you feel like a kid again Dale? Oh, you always feel like a kid, sorry!

mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 8, 2007
2:20 PM

Post #3476202

Sounds like an excuse to go to a theme park to me!

Don't blame you though. better than doing a days work.

Mike

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 8, 2007
6:33 PM

Post #3476855

Wallaby,

That is Goofy, Pluto always goes on four legs. Goofy is Mickey Mouse's best friend. They were my heroes until I found Led Zepplin.

Mike, Do you have any seeds for that palm? At first I thought is was an Arcea with Lilliputians. I have no sense of scale.

More from Disney's Epcot>

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 8, 2007
6:35 PM

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More from Disney's Epcot>

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 8, 2007
6:38 PM

Post #3476867

Theme parks are not subtle with color>

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 8, 2007
6:40 PM

Post #3476872

They do have some interesting combinations

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 8, 2007
6:43 PM

Post #3476880

I did like all the hanging baskets, the designer had a nice touch.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 9, 2007
2:24 AM

Post #3478212

I don't have seeds but if you pay for my trip i'll get some for you. Its in Singapore botanic gardens! heheh

Mike

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 9, 2007
5:58 AM

Post #3478305

I will just send myself, thank you very much.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 9, 2007
2:37 PM

Post #3479882

I think the flight from your place is quicker. That palm was huge though. Never seen one that big before.

Its not the best kept place, but had some real good stuff there.

Mike

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 9, 2007
8:36 PM

Post #3480905

I wish I had time to travel. And the resouces.

I have been spending all of my excess cash (now there is an oxymoron) on dental work, $15,000 since the lst of the year. Next I am getting new lenses, for my failing eyesight, they are $5,000 each. No European vacation any time soon. I wish we had socialized medicine here.

But, check out my new, charming smile>

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 9, 2007
8:43 PM

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To leave the conversation on a more pleasant note>

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 10, 2007
2:48 PM

Post #3483486

Hmmm The hospitals here are not what you would expect though. You would have paid for dental work here too. I can't get a Free dentist because there aren't any available! Eye care i'm not sure but i guess if you actually want to see again i would pay for that too.
I pay 50 a month for the family to go private.

Don't get me wrong what we have is good for emergencies and for the less well off to get treatment. But thats all.

Mike

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 10, 2007
6:35 PM

Post #3484087

That is quite the gang of orchids. What does a Phal. sell for at the shop? I pay under 4 pounds (I haven't found the symbols for other currency) for wholesale.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 11, 2007
7:40 PM

Post #3487145

Wholesale there about 6ea for a box of 12 but the price varies alot due to dutch clock auction prices. Also depends on what grade and the colour mixes. We tend to buy higher grades i.e more flower stalks/flowers and the darker pink with patterns. Other shops may pay less depending on their market.
Retail price can be anywhere from 10 to 19.99 but usually about 12/14.99.
Heres another orchid.

Mike

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 11, 2007
9:31 PM

Post #3487498

That seems like fair price considering how far North you are and all the shipping involved. The heating costs of a greenhouse in Holland during winter must add to the cost of doing business.

I just ordered 2 cases of Epidendrum hybrid orchids this afternoon, are you familiar with them? We use them as a landscape plant, they are terrestrial. I have seen them mounted on wood too. The species grow in central and south America on cliffs and exposed rocks. Here are some of the colors I am getting http://www.matsuinursery.net/epidendrum.html

These are in a 4" pot, in bloom. The nice thing about this type is that it produces kiki (plantlets) on the stem just below the flower. Next time I ship something off to you I will include a couple small starters.

Here is one of the two colors I have now>

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 12, 2007
6:47 PM

Post #3490336

Yeah good point, never thought of it like that. The dutch guys don't pay tax on greenhouse heating fuel though so they cheat! heheh

I dont know that orchid, it looks alot like dendrobium (which i thought it was until i saw the link for them)

Is this war of the orchid flower pictures? If so you win i'm nearly out! lol

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 12, 2007
6:49 PM

Post #3490342

Hey Dale, did you get those seeds i ordered for you yet?

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 12, 2007
11:34 PM

Post #3491015

Mike, No seeds in the post this week.

About the photo's-it's not a war, more of a spirited exchange.

Oh yeah - I am ahead, ha!

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 13, 2007
9:28 AM

Post #3492241

I guess i only ordered them a few days ago.
I know you say you don't do seeds but i guess just throw them under a plant you have in a pot like a coleus or something and 1 is bound to pop up!

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 13, 2007
10:01 AM

Post #3492253

Mike, I plant seeds all the time. My germination rate is the problem.

I order a lot of seed from Silverhill in S.Africa. Mostly summer growing bulbs and winter herbaceous flowers. Most of the time some species make it. I would guess that I have about a 60% success rate, not a sterling performance. I don't have the equipment you have access to, I just toss them into a pot of good soil. I have a great success with cuttings.

What is the country of origin of the seed?

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 15, 2007
12:20 AM

Post #3497721

Mike, Thanks!

I got a catalog in the mail from Chiltern's with a note inside saying they had sent a order to the shipping dept and that some day, in the future, I would get seeds.

I think it is interesting that they could get me the catalog in a few days, but, no seeds yet. Priorities in some businesses are odd.

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 15, 2007
7:24 AM

Post #3498889

heheh. I got a catolougue before i got the order confirmed!.
Sounds like there more interested in the next order allready.
It did entice me to make a list though. But i have no more room for seeds. I have nearly sowed all my colections this spring so lots of pricking out to do.

Mike

P.s i dont see an orchid! lol

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DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 19, 2007
12:33 AM

Post #3512395

Mike, the seeds arrived today. You have my gratitude. What are you going to do with it?

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 19, 2007
9:06 PM

Post #3514601

I'll let you come and prune my silk floss tree if they come up! lol

Seriously. no worries

Mike
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 20, 2007
10:19 AM

Post #3516121

OK

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mike_freck
Lincoln
United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)

May 20, 2007
7:50 PM

Post #3517331

Is that your truck with plants in the back? i need one with a bigger boot.

This is mine (was taking a pic of the weather earlier this year)

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