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Wawknboots
Brooklyn, NY

April 26, 2007
10:06 AM

Post #3432600

I am interested in adding hellebores to my garden...having been late in discovering their beauty. Must I plant them in the fall or can I plant them in the spring so that I can tell how they will fit in with other bulbs...the locations of the other bulbs isn't visible in the fall.

Also, is there enough interest in Hellebores to have a separate forum?

Cheryl
miatablu
Brunswick, MD
(Zone 6b)

April 26, 2007
10:29 AM

Post #3432687

I will definitely support a dedicated forum. It was the first thing I looked for when I joined in March and I just felt I was too new to suggest it myself.

As far as planting them, I've planted them in the spring and they've been fine. In fact I have 3 waiting to go in as soon as my last 2 jack-in-the-pulpits show themselves so I don't accidentally dig them up.
Wawknboots
Brooklyn, NY

April 27, 2007
5:02 PM

Post #3437746

Cool. Thanks. So how do we lobby for a separate forum? I am pretty new myself.
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

April 28, 2007
12:47 AM

Post #3439466

I have planted them all year long here. You're probably only limited by time for the plant to grow roots before it freezes.
Strever
Hiouchi, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 28, 2007
1:21 AM

Post #3439513

if you put Helleborus in the search box above in the right corner
you come up with over 500 messages :-)
they can be planted anytime before hard freeze as Doss says

Dick where Helleborus are happy
DonShirer
Westbrook, CT
(Zone 6a)

April 28, 2007
6:52 AM

Post #3439709

Twice I tried to raise hellebores from seed. Even after following the rather complicated directions, none germinated. So I gave up and just bought a few pots and stuck them in the ground in May. They have done well, and even survived being transplanted to a new house. Recently I even got a volunteer seedling which I hope will bloom next year.

On April 10 in this forum there was a post about Immanence series hellebores whose picture looked quite nice.
Strever
Hiouchi, CA
(Zone 8b)

April 28, 2007
11:32 AM

Post #3440455

here is an image of one i got recently
i comes from Ernie & Marietta O'Byrn at Northwest Garden Nursery in Oregon
http://www.northwestgardennursery.com/hellebore.html
i hope it looks this nice next year :-)

Dick

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DMurray407
Buffalo, MN
(Zone 4a)

April 28, 2007
1:30 PM

Post #3440691

OK, all you Hellebore geniuses! I have a few questions about Hellebores. I looked them up here in the plant files and it says they like light shade. I have a spot I would like to put some and in the spring it gets quite a bit of sun but then as the trees leaf out it is fairly shady most of the day-do you think they would do OK here? Also, do they need winter protection in zone 4?
Thanks!
Deb
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

April 28, 2007
1:46 PM

Post #3440725

Deb, I can't speak to zone 4 but I have one that is sun most of the day until the very late afternoon. It does fine but some of the leaves burn. Your situation sounds perfect.
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 28, 2007
11:37 PM

Post #3442395

I believe they are a woodland plant and like the full sun in the winter and then in the hotter months, the tree leaves filter the sun for them. I believe they also want a moist soil
Shadyfolks
Chesterland, OH
(Zone 5b)

April 29, 2007
8:07 PM

Post #3445257

Strevers- wow, that's a nice Hellebore.
DMurray- I have a stand and they are planted out in the woods. They get sun now, but once the leaves are out they receive very little direct sunlight.
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

April 29, 2007
10:36 PM

Post #3445893

Len, I thought that hellebores didn't like being over watered. In fact I heard that the only way to kill them was to give them too much water. Go figure.
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 29, 2007
10:49 PM

Post #3445945

moist. I know mine are not getting overwatered. HA! I bought some earlier this year from nursery. some had been in greenhouse 2 seasons! one died. the rest have some brown leaves for a long time now.
Shadyfolks
Chesterland, OH
(Zone 5b)

April 30, 2007
6:50 AM

Post #3446495

I have heard that said too, about Hellebores not liking their feet wet. Of course,this was AFTER I planted a bunch of Orientalis in an area that in spring time stays saturated from melted snow and spring rains. The area is sandy but still holds water. I then read that Orientalis is the most tolerate of wet conditions (my garden angel was watching over me). These plants are on their own, I do not water them. The rest of the year it is pretty dry and they seem to be happy.
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 30, 2007
9:36 PM

Post #3449065

I was always curious about "wet" feet. I always thought that meant don't plant in the pond or vase of water ha!
Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
6:17 AM

Post #3467690

I love hellebores and they grow very well in my garden regardless of sun, shade, moisture or dryness. They seed around very happily and they have produced some lovely seedlings. I'd say go for it and give them a try. If you buy them in pots they can be planted at any time providing the soil is not too wet or frozen! I think a forum on hellebores would be very well supported!
Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
6:27 AM

Post #3467699

Here is one of my established plants

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Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
6:28 AM

Post #3467702

A spotted seedling

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Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
6:29 AM

Post #3467703

A mature picotee

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Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
6:30 AM

Post #3467705

A picotee seedling

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2007
12:50 PM

Post #3468563

You have some lovely hellebores. Mine have been attacked by aphids this year for the very first time. What a surprise! I thought that nothing bothered them.
bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
1:25 PM

Post #3468655

I love your picotees Galanthophile!

Wawknboots,
this is a link to a thread dedicated to Hellebores.
This thread was so successful it had to be split in 3 parts, so that certainly points in the direction of deserving its own forum.

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/691619/

one of my picotee

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Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2007
2:42 PM

Post #3468938

Thanks. Mine have some aphids on them now but I leave them for the ladybirds to deal with! The plants don't seem to suffer.
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2007
3:29 PM

Post #3469053

Mine got absolutely covered with them so I had to get rid of the aphids by using the old neem and soap method. Guess I should import ladybugs early in the season.

This message was edited May 6, 2007 6:30 PM

gardenlady123

gardenlady123
Plainwell, MI
(Zone 5b)

May 6, 2007
9:25 PM

Post #3470162

I have acouple of hellobores and im really trying very hard do theylike slightly acidic soil? I think they ar so pretty I had two and moved them because they were doing absolutly nothing now they are growing alittle. They actually have new shoots coming up!!! When is the time that they blossom? Probably past huh?
Galanthophile
North East England
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

May 7, 2007
1:23 AM

Post #3470858

If you live in the US your hellebores should be flowering by now. They normally produce the new leaves after the flowers so as long as they are doing that they are ok so just leave them and you might get flowers next year.
bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

May 7, 2007
5:31 AM

Post #3470970

Gardenlady, Hellebores like neutral to slightly alkalic soil. They love to get a gift of leaf mould. The soil should be humus rich, well drained but humid. If your soil tends to the acidic, they would appreciate a gift of seaweed chalk.
linjasar
Upper Saint Clair, PA
(Zone 6a)

May 7, 2007
10:08 PM

Post #3474122

This is my lone Hellebore outside my diningroom door. I love it as it is the first this to bloom each year. This photo was taken yesterday.

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wooffi
Arlington, TN
(Zone 7a)

May 7, 2007
10:34 PM

Post #3474231

We have grown hellebores in West Tennessee in the US for years. Over the years the have formed a ground cover in places.

They bloom here from early February to mid April when the loose their color and go to seed.

The seeds are abundant and so is the range of color. A lovely plant year around.

Wolfgang

http://www.gardensoyvey.com/hellebore_show/index.htm

gardenlady123

gardenlady123
Plainwell, MI
(Zone 5b)

May 8, 2007
8:07 AM

Post #3475117

linjasar your photo is absolutly beautiful. I can not wait until mine actually start flowering the flowers are so pretty. bonitin I have never heard of seaweed chalk. What other plants like sea weed chalk? I guess I would just go to my local gardening store to purchase? I love this site I have learned so much info. Ive been gardening for about 10+ years but have more room in my brain!!!!! Thanks for the info. Ronna
balvenie
Marysville, WA
(Zone 7a)

February 23, 2008
4:38 PM

Post #4577475

At last ! Of the five packets of seed I tried to start three years ago there were four plants that survived, and of those one has come into bloom. The pups chewed up the plant tags so I don't know what they are, but I've been wanting a white one for a long time. Now to set this little one in the ground and wait for some good seed.

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 23, 2008
4:59 PM

Post #4577573

Congratulations! I"m always so impressed when people breed their own. It's a beautiful clear white, isnt' it?

My hellebores are blooming right now - I need to take a camera outside and photo some of them.
tillysrat
Poulsbo, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 28, 2008
4:54 AM

Post #4599343

I just wanted share, I had some seeds sent to me from England, last summer, I planted them in July they have just now sprouted, I have so far 15 babies.
Heres a site you might enjoy. also check NW forum.

http://www.plantdelights.com/Tony/hellebores.html

This is one I Bought last summer just starting to bloom.

Enjoy
Tills

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bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

February 28, 2008
4:54 PM

Post #4600980

Gardenlady, I must have missed your last post from last year..
Almost all plants benefit from a gift of seaweed chalk, except the ones that like acidic conditions. It not only helps to neutralize the PH, but also feeds the plants and make them stronger.

I love your beautiful pure white Hellebore, Balvenie! What a joy it must give you being self-grown from seed!

That looks an interesting Hellebore tillysrat. Do you know its name.
I haven't seen a Hellebore yet with leaves that are purplish underneath. Very beautiful!

Helleborus lividus;


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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 28, 2008
5:05 PM

Post #4601031

How fun to have hellebores blooming, isn't it? I need to get out and take a few photos. Maybe today's the day.
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 28, 2008
5:17 PM

Post #4601084

OK here are some photos. This is an unnamed seedling. The flowers are plain but there are a lot of them.

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 28, 2008
5:19 PM

Post #4601099

Another no-name seedling

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 28, 2008
5:22 PM

Post #4601105

A double seedling

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 28, 2008
5:34 PM

Post #4601149

Mrs. Betty Ranicar

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 28, 2008
5:35 PM

Post #4601155

Heronswood Double Pink

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miatablu
Brunswick, MD
(Zone 6b)

February 28, 2008
6:18 PM

Post #4601356

Daylily_ohio started a thread on Dave's Garden Forum about starting a forum for Hellebores. If anyone is for it, maybe you can go and post your support. It's not getting many responses right now.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/817015/
tillysrat
Poulsbo, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 29, 2008
3:18 AM

Post #4603359

Bonitin, The tag that was on it said ' Royal Heritage' can't wait till I see what the flower looks like.

I also just bought the ' Kingston Cardinal' It won't bloom till next year.

This is a no name I just got .

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bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

February 29, 2008
9:20 AM

Post #4604005

They are lovely doss! The one in your first pict. looks very vigorous and generous.
Thanks for the name tillysrat. I'm curious to see the flowers open.


This is one I bought this year;
It's one of the 'Wilgenbroek Selection' Helleborus orientalis 'Dark'.

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 29, 2008
4:59 PM

Post #4604980

You are so lucky in Belgium to have a head start on all of the fabulous doubles etc.. that are only beginning to come on the market here bonitin. That color is delicious.
bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

February 29, 2008
5:40 PM

Post #4605134

Thanks Doss, They had some real georgeous double in that selection,I almost fell for one ...

This is one from the same collection I had already posted in the perrenial forum. H.orientale 'Picotée'

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fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

March 8, 2008
6:36 PM

Post #4638485

I have a new Quiestion~ my Hellebore is getting plenty of water, drainage, fertilizer and about 4 hours of sun a day, barely with2 maybe direct on it. Is the lack of sun causing it to grow slow, or are these plants slow by nature in growth? I have a 2 year old plant & it is only putting out is 3rd stem...
any clues?
fernman23 aka :Darren
bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

March 8, 2008
8:07 PM

Post #4638761

I think your Hellebores get more than enough sun, Fernman. I have a couple of them that don't get sun at all and they do bloom. They do get some sun after their blooming-time, but that's not very much.
Hellebores are rather slow to grow ...
Are you sure they don't get too much water ? They like it moist but not soaked.
This is one with wavy petals that doesn't get any sun at all and still blooms,
its about 7 years old now

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

March 9, 2008
3:00 AM

Post #4640077

Sometimes it just takes them a little time to take off, especially if they were bought small. Light shouldn't make a difference though. I have some that are willing to grow almost in the dark. Give them another year and see if they take off.
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 9, 2008
3:00 AM

Post #4640167

darren, about this time last year i went to a nursery and bought some helliobores. I just had to have them. They were expensive. The nursery workers said they were there the previous year and didn't sell. They all had blooms on them and i planted them. They seem to all disappear in the summer. They have come back but they look like they might want to disappear again. Green leaves, then they start turning brown. I'm wondering now if they are going to bloom or just disappear again.
PHofer
Warminster, PA

March 10, 2008
1:14 PM

Post #4645516

Heronswood has a nice selection of Hellebores.

http://www.heronswood.com/
Jetlagged40
Raleigh, NC

April 6, 2008
3:06 PM

Post #4765795

Pine Knot Farms (Dick & Judith Tyler) has a great selection of hellebores, plus the book, "Hellebores," Burrell & Tyler. They are near Clarksville, VA. Just Google Pine Knot Farms for more info.
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

April 6, 2008
8:40 PM

Post #4767207

mine fnally put outa 4th stem, still over all about 5 inches total ht., i think it wants lots of water, here anyway, where yours is at, dunnno, I am getting a LOT of sun on min right now, which is ik as it is only getting to Eighty max. Ina months tiem there will be lots more shade Len123, then i will kepp watering and watch...and watch. the heats my worry ~your brown leaves could be a mineral wierdness, did you fertilize recently? Or not?? Maybe treat it, with a '3 in 1 Schultz' spray in case its a bug or fungus on the root?? GOOD luck~ !
:D
fernman23
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2008
12:36 AM

Post #4768255

fernman, i'm down to 3 of them. I think one has actually bloomed. It is either a dark blue flower or else it's black.lol. I just give up on them i let them do their thing. wet,dry it doesn't matter, they get green and then have part of the leaves that are crispy. Every once in a while leaves pop up and then disappear.
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2008
3:58 AM

Post #4769314

yeah, leaves on mine, i now rememeber some went brown too! so sorry did not remember that before!!! It hink its a soil/fertilizer thing, or sun>? i do fertilize aa lot as the soil here is all amended, it has to be. Happy to hear you have some blooms, the more exotic the clors the better!
take care
darren
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

April 7, 2008
3:38 PM

Post #4770584

careful Fernman. I've heard that the best way you can kill a hellebore is to overwater it.
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2008
11:33 PM

Post #4772634

i'm beginning to think it is normal. here is the one with the blooms, they are dark. I thought it was more dieback first time i saw it. another that had died and went to heaven is starting to get new leaves again.i just don't get it.lol

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doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

April 7, 2008
11:38 PM

Post #4772668

Oh you are right Len. The old foliage dies and new foliage comes after the blooms. I have some that are doing that now.
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2008
11:42 PM

Post #4772686

Well thank you doss very much. I have been trying to figure out what is wrong with them, for a while. They come, then they disappear, then return again. this is the first bloom i have actually seen, other than when i first bought them.
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

April 7, 2008
11:52 PM

Post #4772745

Just hang in there Len and don't do too much and see if they "spring" back. Some people cut back all of the foliage after a bloom I've heard.
Len123
Adrian, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 8, 2008
12:33 AM

Post #4772995

I haven't done a thing but fertilize once in while. they just come and go.lol.
tillysrat
Poulsbo, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 8, 2008
4:54 AM

Post #4774426

If you see any black spots on the stems of the leaves, its best if you removed it.
:-)
Tills
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

April 8, 2008
5:16 AM

Post #4774517

Len, you photo looks great, makes me think I may see flowers this winter after all!!!
and it looks healthy as mine does except for one leaf~I'd not worry too much, maybe it.s lost some foilage during the flowering as it is small like mine? Anyone?
fernman23
tillysrat
Poulsbo, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 8, 2008
5:31 AM

Post #4774559

I would cut that leaf off, Len.

Hells and Pups, go good together, This is the same one I posted before only bigger. And just learning I cut all the old leaves off, because a couple had a black spot on them. now look how nice it looks.

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