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pepsidrinker
La Salle, MI
(Zone 5b)

May 20, 2007
1:55 PM

Post #3516516

A few of my WSing seedling poppies survived our Michigan weather, I plan on planting them out next week. I was just wondering when & how long do these bloom. I am in zone 5. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Connie
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

May 21, 2007
9:29 PM

Post #3520803

What kind of poppies are they?
pepsidrinker
La Salle, MI
(Zone 5b)

May 25, 2007
12:15 AM

Post #3532522

Hi Ticker,
I am not sure right off, there are a few different ones. I know shirley and california, but the others not sure of.

Connie
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

May 25, 2007
3:32 AM

Post #3533194

Well, in a couple weeks the Orientals will be done for the season. I'm not sure about the shirley's. I wintersowed some California Poppies called White Linen and Mikado and I think they actually will bloom a couple times through the summer and into the fall... I had a White Linen blooming last fall in late November...
DaveYoung
Monroe, MI

June 4, 2007
12:43 PM

Post #3572687

I cut some seed heads from some poppy plants, and then i read about letting them dry on the plant. Have I messed these up for harvesting the seed for planting, or what do I do next.
skimper
Greenwich, OH

June 4, 2007
4:24 PM

Post #3573559

Always collect the seeds from the plant when the pod turns brown.The seeds will be ready and mature to collect.
inanda
Winnipeg, MB
(Zone 2b)

September 4, 2007
3:07 PM

Post #3935829

Here is my poppy question.

I had one beautiful annual poppy which I watched all summer. It finally bloomed and stem was broken this weekend. I've taken the green seedheads and put them in water, hoping that they will still grow and dry out properly so that seeds will mature.

Rest of the plant I've put into water and left in the garden, hoping that the buds will bloom and be found by insects.

Any ideas? Am I doing the right thing? Will change the water often. Someone in our community garden told me that pods could be matured in the fridge??? Anyone heard of this?

I'm really an iris & Lilium person. Have often cut lily seedpods, put in water in the house and they have matured but... have never thought about poppies particularly.

inanda aka Ginny

Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

September 4, 2007
4:33 PM

Post #3936171

Ginny, I don't know, but I don't think you have anything to lose by trying to get the pod to ripen.. Let us know how it turns out, ok?

Diann
wrightie
Metro DC, MD
(Zone 7a)

December 25, 2007
1:33 AM

Post #4325271

I'd like to learn more about the different types of poppies. Is there a thread around here that gives lots of info. to someone relatively new to growing them?

I've grown some annual poppies in the past, but I couldn't tell you what type they were. I have lots of seeds that I've obtained through swaps in the past few months and am looking forward to seeing what they do in '08.

Oh, I also have a couple types of Himalayan poppy seeds, but I don't think that there's much hope for me to grow them in my zone.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 26, 2007
9:27 PM

Post #4329069

wrightie, why don't you think they would grow there. They should according to plant files.
wrightie
Metro DC, MD
(Zone 7a)

December 26, 2007
9:31 PM

Post #4329075

Hmmm, it's my understanding that the Himalayans require much colder temp's and do not do well in our Summer heat and humidity.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 27, 2007
5:28 PM

Post #4331656

Maybe a really shaded area with a good breeze might do them good.
wrightie
Metro DC, MD
(Zone 7a)

December 27, 2007
10:55 PM

Post #4332441

Okay, I've got lots more poppy questions:

1) Regarding the common name "Breadseed" poppies, are the "breadseeds" always Papaver somniferum?

2) Somniferum = "Opium poppy", right?

3) Also, are the seeds from these guys literally the same ones the we bake with?

4) If I want to harvest my own seeds for baking purposes, is there some special treatment that I'll need to give them before I can cook with them?

5) Are my questions annoying you yet? ;>)

Btw, I just threw some meconopsis seeds out onto one of my shady beds and said 37 hail mary's ...
balvenie
Marysville, WA
(Zone 7a)

December 27, 2007
11:11 PM

Post #4332504

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. dry them well
5. not at all
Btw. good luck with the Meconopsis

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wrightie
Metro DC, MD
(Zone 7a)

December 27, 2007
11:24 PM

Post #4332548

Oh, goody. Thanks. Now, lemme see if I can come up with another list o' questions ...

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 28, 2007
3:27 AM

Post #4333592

Go for it writie. someone will surely have an answer
wrightie
Metro DC, MD
(Zone 7a)

December 28, 2007
3:31 AM

Post #4333610

Okay, what's the real deal with legalities in the US with regard to Somniferum? Technically, it's illegal to plant/grow them, but everyone does it anyway???

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 28, 2007
3:38 AM

Post #4333639

Quantity. If someone orders in bulk, say 50 lbs. then look out they will be watching you. Most home gardeners only use a small amount that doesn't add up to enough to do anything about.

I also heard something about the seeds being sold to home gardeners not having full potential. Something that is bred into the seed. Don't know how true it is.

I hope someone else as a better explanation or one that is the correct one.
wrightie
Metro DC, MD
(Zone 7a)

December 28, 2007
3:43 AM

Post #4333659

That all makes sense to moi, and I've read that before.

But, then I'll turn around and read something like this and question things once again: "Notes: This seed variety cannot be shipped to US addresses, regardless of permits."
http://vandusen.plantexplorers.com/product_info.php/products_id/557

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 28, 2007
3:47 AM

Post #4333677

It's probably one that hasn't been treated yet. It depends on how they got the seed. If they get it from a commercial grower it's probably treated and if it's from a local farmer, it won't be.
claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 28, 2007
3:47 AM

Post #4333680

What's funny about that is the seed is the only legal part.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 28, 2007
3:49 AM

Post #4333686

Thats right (but they probably don't know that). It's what the seed does that they think they will get in trouble about.
balvenie
Marysville, WA
(Zone 7a)

December 28, 2007
4:46 AM

Post #4333836

The Federal Law covering various classes of narcotics is an interesting read. I vaguely recall that seed is allowed but leaves, stems and pods are not. It is the milky sap from the stems and pods that contains the opiate, and though the seeds possess an insignificant amount, it is apparently not enough to alarm the law.Generally speaking, it seems the enforcement is not focused upon gardeners with ornamental somniferums in their flower beds. A few acres of them, with folks out there scratching all those pretty pods might draw their attention though.
A body could probably get into more disastrous circumstances by misusing Artemisia absinthum (wormwood) than chewing on a poppy. yuk

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