First Quarter: From New Moon to the Half, plant annuals or crops that will be harvested for their tops and that don't produce what we think of as fruit.
Second Quarter: From Half to Full, plant annuals that have seeds inside their fruit.
Third Quarter: From Full to Half, plant roots and bulbs, perennials, trees, and shrubs.
Fourth Quarter: From Half to New, do other garden chores besides planting, especially pruning.
I am a haphazard gardener, so I use this rule of thumb... If it grows beneath the ground or has lots of flowers, plant in the waning of the moon, and if you want lots of veggies, plant in the waxing of the moon. If you plant veggies at the wrong time, all you will get is flowers, and not much of a harvest.
I cut my hair in the growing of the moon, from the day after the new moon to the day before the full moon, for maximum fullness and growth.
Sheep shearers get more wool during those times, too, and people who trap crabs to eat say they are bigger at those times of the month.
Not really KY...The lunar phases affect Hunters and Fishermen as well as Farmers, and other folk who do certain things by the moon phases...Back in the days when we had to hunt our food for dinner or to preserve it so we didn't starve to death in the winters we learned that certain things affected the animals and fish...
It's a known fact that animals can predict Earthquakes...sometimes days before they happen...I have a dog that tells me rain is nearby...she never misses...Animals were the barometers for us NDN's...
Many years ago when my first husband and I raised horses, we turned them out to pasture every morning so the stalls could be cleaned...When we saw them start to gather under the trees, we would race to the pasture to bring them in, because a storm was coming...We were too slow once, and two of them were struck by lightening that hit the tree before we could herd them into the barn...Cattle will do the same thing...As a cold front approaches or there are fluctuations in the barometer, fish will go deeper, and not bite...No point baiting the hook, or setting the trap.. the pot will be empty tonight..
I can tell this is going to be one of my very favorite forums. I have always had a strong connection to the moon...always gardened, made major decisions, planned trips etc, by the phases of the moon. Never made a big deal of it - it was just a part of my life. Now I know why. Probably has something to do with that item that scientists say humans don't have - racial memory. Always paid lots of attention to the actions of household animals, and the behavior of sealife. BTW - what is NDN?
NDN is the new politically correct abbreviation for American Indian to differentiate from Indian from India...and not use my favorite term.. Injun..which is now deemed to be not nice.. LOL Funny.. Ive been called that all my life..some 60 + years... Oh well..
OH N...D...N... Ha ! I get it now, duh! Should have figured that one out myownself. Part Cherokee and part Blackfoot here...mix with half Spanish and you get a real passionate, spiritual, emotional, looneytune who talk to rocks!
One of my Coharie Clan members is Coharie, Blackfoot, Spanish and French...Talk about a volitile combo!! LOL... She talks to everything including the air...Gotta be either the Blackfoot or the Spanish...ROFLLLL
I only talk to plants, trees, fish and other animals...If it don't move, I don't talk to it.. LOL
Some of my best long term conversations have been with rose quartz! Although petrified wood has an interesting slant on life...
Yup, knowing my family tree - I'd say it's the Spanish. LOL Bet your friend is a fascinating person! Oh, and of course I talk to my plants! Teaching my granddaughter to do so as well, now when she visits the sick ward (area of garden where a little more TLC is needed), she says things like - "oh, you are looking better today" and "come on now - perk up"...She's 3 1/2 and already learning how to garden through sound!
Well you know...Anything that seems strange to others makes us look or act weird...I send prayers in the Smoke every day at sunrise and sunset...Try that in February in Ohio with 2 feet of snow on the ground and watch your neighbors immediately deem you to be completely insane...
LOLLOL! I'm here on an island in the middle of the Pacific, and I have a moon ceremony for every full moon. Sometimes out on the sea wall, sometimes in my yard...I'm grateful they don't just carry me away in a straight jacket. My friends just smile and say "that's cool", but I know they are wondering about my sanity. Good for you with your smoke prayers!
that's what most of my neighbors think of me, although i do not send prayers in smoke. i have, to all the four directions, but not as a routine. please send some my way tomorrow morning... i have yet another ct scan.
i was a shaman in another life, and i have a few healing powers, do lots of muscle testing, flower remedies, reike, etc. and try to teach what i know to anyone who will listen. (and i DO talk to my plants.) i know that i know more than i know, if that makes any sense.
you'd love OLD NDN, a member from central GA. don't know if he's still even around, his health was not good... but he taught me LOTS in just the few hours i spent with him.
I think we probably all know more than we think we know. We just are so leary of listening to that inner voice. I think many shamans just were very tuned to that...hence so much lore, in so many different civilzations about "the third eye", "reaching deep", "talking to the ancestors", etc. When you listen to the wind, you will hear many voices.
Good luck with your test darius, you will be in my thoughts.
Reminds me of a song... To every thing, turn, turn, turn, There is a season, turn, turn, turn...
who wrote that? I can't remember. Now that's gonna drive me crazy!
Anyway, I thought the idea of gardening by the moon sounded silly at first, but, hey...all those countless old farmers can't be wrong, can they? I am always eager to learn from the voice of experience.
Well.. Some folks think it means go out and plant at night.. Although.. from what I understand... It is the sun that tells weeds seeds that they should grow so if you did your digging in the night you might get fewer weeds.. lol
Aw, shucks. I thought this meant, "gardens to plant for the night owls." Like white roses, white callas, huge white daisies, white lilies, white tulips, zebra grass, etc. etc But it didn't take me long to find out we weren't going to be talking about moonlit nights in the garden.
I just bought the Old Farmer's Almanac for 2009--never did find the one for this year. Not the 'authentic' one; seems I saw some that were different from this one. I am looking forward to learning how to use it!
tcs1366 - I've been around, but mostly lurking on a couple of threads to keep updated. I really didn't have much time to post, or search new topics. How 'bout you? We really should meet for lunch before the Christmas season becomes too hectic.
I have never really 'gardened by the moon' but I do prefer gardening in the evening and sometimes after dark. It gives my transplants a better start than putting them in during the morning and then they have to deal with the mid-day sun. However, I do think I'll enjoy reading about and trying 'gardening by the moon' as I've always thought there was something to it.
I"m back home now... since the park has "Camp Ground" status ... we only have water at our sites Apr15th - Oct15th
we can go up there, but have to go to the Club House for running water.
so - I'm basically home until Mid-May or so... BUT -- i do plan on spending most the summer up there again next year.
we shall see how it goes.
I really do find this Gardening by the Moon fascinating - though literally being out there after the sun goes down..i get eaten alive by mosquitoes - even with bug spray on.
But - i have followed some of the guidelines on "when" to plant. Very interesting.
LOL, hey it doesn't matter here--the mosquitos have been eating me alive, even during daylight hours! Oh, was just flipping through next year's almanac, and it includes November and December of this year, so I was happy to see that.
Nah, some of us are still here. For me, there's always the time when I don't rely on the moon signs... that is, time when I am not active in the garden. I use the signs for other things like haircuts and dental work.
My biodynamic gardening book using moon signs came, and although I won't have time to study it until after Christmas, I DO plan to use it next year. That will be in a new thread on this forum.
I am looking forward to it, darius. I have known folks who did everything by the moon and they had much better luck than I with their gardens. I did everything according to when I had time. I would like to follow the phases and work with it next year.
Glad to hear from Darius!
I guess everyone else is busy with the holidays, that makes sense.
I, on the other hand, am doing my best to keep my head in the garden until I can get my body back out there!
Any other knowledgeable ones checking in?
I had forgotten about this forum. I've just started back vegetable gardening. We do everything by the signs. I have two neighbors that have farms, they do too. We compare when to do things. One is from Switzerland, she's the authority for us. She does absolutely everything, including watering her garden by the signs.
I can ask her. I heard their irrigation pump running a few days ago, but I can't remember which day.
When my neighbor plowed my garden she told him which days to plow. She said it had to be tilled three times and the days were about 10 -11 days apart.
I agree, it is very fascinating. We practice 100% organic gardening, not 100% biodynamic though. I use lots of compost, but no special formulas were added. The only special preparation with the garden soil was in timing the cultivation. Everything is mulched, including the pathways and no one walks in the garden with shoes on.
I also garden 100% organically. My heart would love to introduce biodynamics, but unfortunately my head cannot grasp it all...maybe someday. On the other hand, I can just think of it like a recipe that I can play with.
I'm just at a starting point-learning the moon's relationship with the soil. Would love to hear more about the entire planetary influences, as your neighbors' practice.
I am new to Dave's Garden and found this forum. I have gardened by the moon for many years. Not until this year did I stick to the planting vegetables by the quarters as described by walkingwoman in July 2007. The problem I encountered was that during the correct moon quarter for planting certain vegetables, the good signs such as Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces weren't always available or you had a one day window to plant and I usually had to keep grandkids or something else important on that day. But I really do believe in planting with the signs. I've done several experiments and proved the signs to improve my outcomes.