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dave

July 4, 2007
3:44 PM

Post #3694367

By popular request:

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/743496/

dave
allysgram
Sedalia, MO

July 4, 2007
3:52 PM

Post #3694405

Thank you Dave.
philomel
Castelnau RB Pyrenée
France
(Zone 8a)


July 4, 2007
5:39 PM

Post #3694830

Thanks for this one Dave - what a star you are LOL
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 4, 2007
6:14 PM

Post #3695018

Thanks Dave - Great topic!
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 4, 2007
7:04 PM

Post #3695222

Wow, that was quick! Thanks! Now to get an almanac and commence learning...with the help of you experienced moon gardeners!
GardenerGardner
Lexington, MA
(Zone 6a)

July 4, 2007
10:23 PM

Post #3695902

This is great! I'm intrigued and interested to learn more. Mother Nature really does govern all.
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)

July 5, 2007
8:59 AM

Post #3697392

So who is going to start teaching us something??
walkingwoman
Picayune, MS

July 5, 2007
6:02 PM

Post #3698929

Moon Stuff:

First Quarter: From New Moon to the Half, plant annuals or crops that will be harvested for their tops and that don't produce what we think of as fruit.

Second Quarter: From Half to Full, plant annuals that have seeds inside their fruit.

Third Quarter: From Full to Half, plant roots and bulbs, perennials, trees, and shrubs.

Fourth Quarter: From Half to New, do other garden chores besides planting, especially pruning.

I am a haphazard gardener, so I use this rule of thumb... If it grows beneath the ground or has lots of flowers, plant in the waning of the moon, and if you want lots of veggies, plant in the waxing of the moon. If you plant veggies at the wrong time, all you will get is flowers, and not much of a harvest.

I cut my hair in the growing of the moon, from the day after the new moon to the day before the full moon, for maximum fullness and growth.

Sheep shearers get more wool during those times, too, and people who trap crabs to eat say they are bigger at those times of the month.
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 5, 2007
7:05 PM

Post #3699103

Are gardeners and farmers the reason they put the moon phases on the all the calendars?
DustyDS
Sugar Valley, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2007
7:37 PM

Post #3699205

Not really KY...The lunar phases affect Hunters and Fishermen as well as Farmers, and other folk who do certain things by the moon phases...Back in the days when we had to hunt our food for dinner or to preserve it so we didn't starve to death in the winters we learned that certain things affected the animals and fish...
It's a known fact that animals can predict Earthquakes...sometimes days before they happen...I have a dog that tells me rain is nearby...she never misses...Animals were the barometers for us NDN's...

Many years ago when my first husband and I raised horses, we turned them out to pasture every morning so the stalls could be cleaned...When we saw them start to gather under the trees, we would race to the pasture to bring them in, because a storm was coming...We were too slow once, and two of them were struck by lightening that hit the tree before we could herd them into the barn...Cattle will do the same thing...As a cold front approaches or there are fluctuations in the barometer, fish will go deeper, and not bite...No point baiting the hook, or setting the trap.. the pot will be empty tonight..


KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 5, 2007
8:08 PM

Post #3699340

Oh, Dusty, so sorry to hear about your poor horses! Yes, I know animals sense changes in the weather, but I never thought about fish--sure makes sense! Thanks for the interesting info!
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)

July 5, 2007
8:54 PM

Post #3699549

I can tell this is going to be one of my very favorite forums. I have always had a strong connection to the moon...always gardened, made major decisions, planned trips etc, by the phases of the moon. Never made a big deal of it - it was just a part of my life. Now I know why. Probably has something to do with that item that scientists say humans don't have - racial memory. Always paid lots of attention to the actions of household animals, and the behavior of sealife. BTW - what is NDN?
DustyDS
Sugar Valley, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2007
9:00 PM

Post #3699569

NDN is the new politically correct abbreviation for American Indian to differentiate from Indian from India...and not use my favorite term.. Injun..which is now deemed to be not nice.. LOL Funny.. Ive been called that all my life..some 60 + years... Oh well..
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)

July 5, 2007
9:05 PM

Post #3699581

OH N...D...N... Ha ! I get it now, duh! Should have figured that one out myownself. Part Cherokee and part Blackfoot here...mix with half Spanish and you get a real passionate, spiritual, emotional, looneytune who talk to rocks!
DustyDS
Sugar Valley, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2007
9:16 PM

Post #3699617

One of my Coharie Clan members is Coharie, Blackfoot, Spanish and French...Talk about a volitile combo!! LOL... She talks to everything including the air...Gotta be either the Blackfoot or the Spanish...ROFLLLL
I only talk to plants, trees, fish and other animals...If it don't move, I don't talk to it.. LOL
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)

July 5, 2007
9:23 PM

Post #3699652

Some of my best long term conversations have been with rose quartz! Although petrified wood has an interesting slant on life...

Yup, knowing my family tree - I'd say it's the Spanish. LOL Bet your friend is a fascinating person! Oh, and of course I talk to my plants! Teaching my granddaughter to do so as well, now when she visits the sick ward (area of garden where a little more TLC is needed), she says things like - "oh, you are looking better today" and "come on now - perk up"...She's 3 1/2 and already learning how to garden through sound!
DustyDS
Sugar Valley, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2007
9:26 PM

Post #3699667

Good for you !!!! If we elders don't teach, the old ways will soon be gone..Very sad...
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)

July 5, 2007
9:32 PM

Post #3699691

Well, some people see it more like "Uh-Oh...another looneytune in the making"! But I agree with you.
DustyDS
Sugar Valley, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2007
9:40 PM

Post #3699718

Well you know...Anything that seems strange to others makes us look or act weird...I send prayers in the Smoke every day at sunrise and sunset...Try that in February in Ohio with 2 feet of snow on the ground and watch your neighbors immediately deem you to be completely insane...
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)

July 5, 2007
10:25 PM

Post #3700061

LOLLOL! I'm here on an island in the middle of the Pacific, and I have a moon ceremony for every full moon. Sometimes out on the sea wall, sometimes in my yard...I'm grateful they don't just carry me away in a straight jacket. My friends just smile and say "that's cool", but I know they are wondering about my sanity. Good for you with your smoke prayers!

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 5, 2007
10:35 PM

Post #3700388

that's what most of my neighbors think of me, although i do not send prayers in smoke. i have, to all the four directions, but not as a routine. please send some my way tomorrow morning... i have yet another ct scan.

i was a shaman in another life, and i have a few healing powers, do lots of muscle testing, flower remedies, reike, etc. and try to teach what i know to anyone who will listen. (and i DO talk to my plants.) i know that i know more than i know, if that makes any sense.

you'd love OLD NDN, a member from central GA. don't know if he's still even around, his health was not good... but he taught me LOTS in just the few hours i spent with him.
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)

July 5, 2007
11:09 PM

Post #3700545

I think we probably all know more than we think we know. We just are so leary of listening to that inner voice. I think many shamans just were very tuned to that...hence so much lore, in so many different civilzations about "the third eye", "reaching deep", "talking to the ancestors", etc. When you listen to the wind, you will hear many voices.

Good luck with your test darius, you will be in my thoughts.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 6, 2007
2:29 PM

Post #3702649

Thanks for this forum... I think I will learn a lot in here. [it's now added to my favorites]
GardenerGardner
Lexington, MA
(Zone 6a)

July 6, 2007
4:51 PM

Post #3703262

I'm facinated...on my fav list as well!

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2007
5:35 PM

Post #3703432

To everything there is a season,
and a time to every purpose under the heaven.

A time to be born, and a time to die,
a time to plant
and a time to pluck up that which has been planted;

A time to kill, and a time to heal;
a time to break down and a time to build up...


Ecclesiastes 3:1-3
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 6, 2007
6:36 PM

Post #3703655

Reminds me of a song... To every thing, turn, turn, turn, There is a season, turn, turn, turn...
who wrote that? I can't remember. Now that's gonna drive me crazy!

Anyway, I thought the idea of gardening by the moon sounded silly at first, but, hey...all those countless old farmers can't be wrong, can they? I am always eager to learn from the voice of experience.
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2007
7:32 PM

Post #3703816

The Byrds sang it... but get this, Dolly Parton wrote it.
Jazzpunkin
Springfield, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2007
8:17 PM

Post #3703983

Well.. Some folks think it means go out and plant at night.. Although.. from what I understand... It is the sun that tells weeds seeds that they should grow so if you did your digging in the night you might get fewer weeds.. lol
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 6, 2007
8:21 PM

Post #3704002

Thanks for the info, dovey! I never would've imagined Dolly Parton wrote that--but she is a very talented lady.

Now I gotta get back out there and pull more weeds so I have room to plant stuff according to the moon's phases...

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 6, 2007
8:59 PM

Post #3704162

i need to transplant 2 heurcheras... but not sure if the "moon" is just right.
i did read in the rose thread, that it's ok to transplant roses now...

but my Heurchs are just tgaking a beating where they are and i need to get them out of the sun.
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2007
10:20 PM

Post #3704461

tcs
Dusty answered my question about transplanting now and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the moon and not just roses
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/744818/
Foxnfirefly
Falls Church, VA
(Zone 7b)

July 6, 2007
11:52 PM

Post #3704753

Aw, shucks. I thought this meant, "gardens to plant for the night owls." Like white roses, white callas, huge white daisies, white lilies, white tulips, zebra grass, etc. etc But it didn't take me long to find out we weren't going to be talking about moonlit nights in the garden.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 7, 2007
1:02 AM

Post #3705035

thanks dovey... wasnt sure.
i read "somewhere" in a different thread to transplant between the 14th and 21st... all of which i will be out of town.

actually -- i was just running back out to move them right now... before the mosquitoes get too bad.
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)

October 21, 2008
6:46 PM

Post #5700060

Now how on earth did I miss a "Gardening by the Moon" Forum?!!! Seems like I have lots of reading and catching up to do! ☺

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

October 21, 2008
7:17 PM

Post #5700195

Well, Jody -- where the heck ya been?? *wink*
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 21, 2008
7:26 PM

Post #5700229

I just bought the Old Farmer's Almanac for 2009--never did find the one for this year. Not the 'authentic' one; seems I saw some that were different from this one. I am looking forward to learning how to use it!
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

October 21, 2008
8:02 PM

Post #5700354

I find Old Farmer's Almanac hard to use. When desperate I would struggle with it and figure stuff out.

I highly recommend the calendar to go with it, I think you'll find it very helpful.
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 22, 2008
12:00 AM

Post #5701366

Calendar? Hmm, will have to look for that, thanks, dovey!
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

October 22, 2008
12:01 PM

Post #5702995

There is an online calendar http://www.amagickgarden.com/pages/amgpages/amgcalendar.html
Which has been very helpful (and free)
Recently I discovered a printed calendar and I'm real excited about being able to map out the whole year (more like having it mapped out for me)
Here is the thread about the gardening by the moon calendar http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/912983/

Dove
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)

October 22, 2008
2:07 PM

Post #5703438

tcs1366 - I've been around, but mostly lurking on a couple of threads to keep updated. I really didn't have much time to post, or search new topics. How 'bout you? We really should meet for lunch before the Christmas season becomes too hectic.

I have never really 'gardened by the moon' but I do prefer gardening in the evening and sometimes after dark. It gives my transplants a better start than putting them in during the morning and then they have to deal with the mid-day sun. However, I do think I'll enjoy reading about and trying 'gardening by the moon' as I've always thought there was something to it.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

October 22, 2008
2:25 PM

Post #5703511

I"m back home now... since the park has "Camp Ground" status ... we only have water at our sites Apr15th - Oct15th

we can go up there, but have to go to the Club House for running water.
so - I'm basically home until Mid-May or so... BUT -- i do plan on spending most the summer up there again next year.
we shall see how it goes.

I really do find this Gardening by the Moon fascinating - though literally being out there after the sun goes down..i get eaten alive by mosquitoes - even with bug spray on.

But - i have followed some of the guidelines on "when" to plant. Very interesting.
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

October 23, 2008
11:36 AM

Post #5707171

You don't have to garden after dark to garden by the moon's cycles.
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)

October 25, 2008
2:33 PM

Post #5714699

I know, dovey. I was just kidding! ☺

KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 25, 2008
5:59 PM

Post #5715206

LOL, hey it doesn't matter here--the mosquitos have been eating me alive, even during daylight hours! Oh, was just flipping through next year's almanac, and it includes November and December of this year, so I was happy to see that.
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

October 26, 2008
4:38 PM

Post #5718408

Silly me... I'm so literal at times.
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)

October 28, 2008
2:23 PM

Post #5725508

LOL! That is so easy to do when we are reading a conversation. I don't know how many times I have read something and the wondered "Is that what they meant to say?"
nilly
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 5b)

November 15, 2008
5:12 PM

Post #5794004

Teach on, elders, teach on!
kathy65468
Eunice, MO
(Zone 5b)

November 21, 2008
9:29 PM

Post #5816951

I have spent the last 2 hours reading at this site and it is a fun read.
http://www.plantea.com/planting-moon-phases.htm
nilly
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 5b)

November 22, 2008
4:35 PM

Post #5819367

Dear elders: Come BACK! And teach us more about gardening by the moon!
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)

November 22, 2008
4:42 PM

Post #5819394

This thread has been quiet for a few weeks. Maybe they're all just getting ready for Thanksgiving.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

November 22, 2008
4:46 PM

Post #5819408

Nah, some of us are still here. For me, there's always the time when I don't rely on the moon signs... that is, time when I am not active in the garden. I use the signs for other things like haircuts and dental work.

My biodynamic gardening book using moon signs came, and although I won't have time to study it until after Christmas, I DO plan to use it next year. That will be in a new thread on this forum.
kathy65468
Eunice, MO
(Zone 5b)

November 22, 2008
6:30 PM

Post #5819739

I am looking forward to it, darius. I have known folks who did everything by the moon and they had much better luck than I with their gardens. I did everything according to when I had time. I would like to follow the phases and work with it next year.
Allwild
North, TX

November 23, 2008
8:26 PM

Post #5823204

darius, I have found it hard to find anything related to biodynamic gardening, such as you described. Did you order it online? If you don't mind.

OTOH, if you are going to start a thread and share info, I definitely look forward to that.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

November 23, 2008
9:48 PM

Post #5823473

Yes, biodynamic info. is hard to find. Acres USA http://www.acresusa.com/books/books.asp carries some good books. I ordered my bd calendar from Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/American-Biodynamic-Sowing-Planting-Calendar/dp/086315655X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227476834&sr=1-1
Allwild
North, TX

November 23, 2008
10:12 PM

Post #5823592

Excellent! Thank you very much.
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

November 24, 2008
5:59 PM

Post #5826503

Really looking forward to the posts, darius! Always interested in this sort of thing.
nilly
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 5b)

November 29, 2008
4:47 PM

Post #5840740

Glad to hear from Darius!
I guess everyone else is busy with the holidays, that makes sense.
I, on the other hand, am doing my best to keep my head in the garden until I can get my body back out there!
Any other knowledgeable ones checking in?
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

December 10, 2008
11:18 PM

Post #5879182

I had forgotten about this forum. I've just started back vegetable gardening. We do everything by the signs. I have two neighbors that have farms, they do too. We compare when to do things. One is from Switzerland, she's the authority for us. She does absolutely everything, including watering her garden by the signs.
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2008
1:47 PM

Post #5881006

Really, even watering by the signs... wow. Do you know what signs she uses to determine the best days to water?
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

December 11, 2008
2:06 PM

Post #5881066

I can ask her. I heard their irrigation pump running a few days ago, but I can't remember which day.
When my neighbor plowed my garden she told him which days to plow. She said it had to be tilled three times and the days were about 10 -11 days apart.
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2008
6:58 PM

Post #5882124

I would love to know.
Thanks
Dove
Allwild
North, TX

December 11, 2008
8:37 PM

Post #5882398

Calalily, very interesting stuff isn't it? I will also be checking in for that info. Do you also practice other biodynamic principles such as for soil preparation? I find it all so facinating.
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

December 11, 2008
10:19 PM

Post #5882657

I agree, it is very fascinating. We practice 100% organic gardening, not 100% biodynamic though. I use lots of compost, but no special formulas were added. The only special preparation with the garden soil was in timing the cultivation. Everything is mulched, including the pathways and no one walks in the garden with shoes on.
Allwild
North, TX

December 12, 2008
12:25 AM

Post #5883036

I also garden 100% organically. My heart would love to introduce biodynamics, but unfortunately my head cannot grasp it all...maybe someday. On the other hand, I can just think of it like a recipe that I can play with.

I'm just at a starting point-learning the moon's relationship with the soil. Would love to hear more about the entire planetary influences, as your neighbors' practice.
frostkay268
Linden, TX

December 16, 2008
3:06 AM

Post #5896200

I am new to Dave's Garden and found this forum. I have gardened by the moon for many years. Not until this year did I stick to the planting vegetables by the quarters as described by walkingwoman in July 2007. The problem I encountered was that during the correct moon quarter for planting certain vegetables, the good signs such as Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces weren't always available or you had a one day window to plant and I usually had to keep grandkids or something else important on that day. But I really do believe in planting with the signs. I've done several experiments and proved the signs to improve my outcomes.
dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

December 17, 2008
12:25 PM

Post #5900753

I do my best to plant during the good signs, but like you sometimes it just doesn't work out. I then choose second best... or at the least just the correct phase of the moon.

Dove
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

December 17, 2008
4:13 PM

Post #5901266

My weeds seem to know when I "can't" pull them!!! I'm constantly plucking them when I should be planting (but don't have anything to plant)!

Kylaluaz

Kylaluaz
Richmond, VA
(Zone 7a)

December 27, 2008
6:47 AM

Post #5931983

If anyone is still looking for a biodynamic gardening calendar, this is a good one that I have used a lot in the past:

http://www.stellanatura.com/

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Other Gardening by the Moon Threads you might be interested in:

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Moon calendar? nivlac 13 Jul 11, 2007 5:46 PM
Those who know how to read an almanac defoecat 81 Jul 10, 2007 1:03 AM
Moon Phases threegardeners 9 Jul 11, 2007 9:59 PM
Here's what I'd started last year .. Magpye 24 Jul 21, 2007 4:40 AM
I have a question about the Moon & deadheading roses dovey 13 Jul 15, 2007 6:50 PM


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