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Beginner Flowers: Purple coneflower/echinacea

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growingup
Tucson, AZ

July 10, 2007
3:26 PM

Post #3718788

I planted quite a few seeds weeks ago. The all have dedicated soakers that keep the ground nice a moist. My problem is that they don't want to come up. They are in semi-sun, one full sun, and I only see aobut 2 sprouts (that aren't growing mind you) out of the 30-40 seeds I planted. Any good tips out there? Just be patient?
planolinda
Plano, TX

July 10, 2007
3:55 PM

Post #3718880

i also planted cone flower seeds a few weeks ago and have about 4 that sprouted a little tiny sprout and nothing more--but i read that they are hard to grow from seed so next time i will buy them as plants
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

July 11, 2007
12:34 AM

Post #3721034

Some seeds need to be kept cold before they will sprout. We can grow coneflowers here, but, they never reseed themselves because we are too warm in winter.

Also, in nature the birds eat the seed and then pass them. A few seeds make it thru the birds without being digested completely, but, the outside coating on the seed gets thinned. I used to grow Fuchsia from seed and had terrible luck with getting them to sprout until put them in my mouth and got them all wet. Then I would spit them out and spread them across potting soild and bury them. I left them alone for a couple days and then started to water. I went from 5% germination to about 80%.

That is a couple of things to think about.

I am lazy I just buy plants now.

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KTsGarden
Ocean County, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2007
9:10 PM

Post #3724783

even if you spend some money on established plants now, coneflower grows and spreads!!! You'll be digging up and seperating making more and more for your yard. They come back every year for me thicker than last! I dug up quite a few this year and planted them elsewhere in my yard as well as passing on to a friend. Maybe you can find someone in your area that will share and dig one up for you???
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

July 12, 2007
12:13 AM

Post #3725495

Am I the only person that thinks these cones are more pink than purple?

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lostintexas
Abilene, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 12, 2007
2:05 AM

Post #3725989

I don't know if they are pink or purple dale but what a beautiful garden. That is what I hope mine looks like when it grows up.

Leslie
tggfisk
Garner, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 12, 2007
10:32 AM

Post #3726797

Dale

I agree with you. I've never actually had a purple coneflower! Go figure!

And you have expanded my notion of spitting seeds well beyond the traditional watermelon contests:-)) Funny!

Bev
luv_lee_garden
Sterling Heights, MI
(Zone 6b)

July 12, 2007
1:10 PM

Post #3727161

Hello everyone,

I was just reading your posts, because I'm new at gardening as well. A funny thing is, I have purple coneflowers growing up in my garden and they just bloomed (I also just found out what they were).

You've mentioned that you've never actually seen a purple echinacea coneflower, I think mine actually look purple (more lavenderish), What do you think?

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tggfisk
Garner, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 12, 2007
4:31 PM

Post #3727826

I guess you could stretch the color thing. It's all in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? :) I still perceive them as pink...go figure!
kls_01
Champaign, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 12, 2007
5:28 PM

Post #3728038

Yeah, I think those look a little more purple...I wonder if the acidity of the soil could make them more pink or purple like hydrangeas?

Kristie
tggfisk
Garner, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 12, 2007
5:33 PM

Post #3728053

Could be, or maybe sun exposure...Mine get full blazing sun all day.
kls_01
Champaign, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 12, 2007
5:34 PM

Post #3728060

That could be...the sun would probably bleach them out making them look pinker...
tggfisk
Garner, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 12, 2007
5:42 PM

Post #3728094

Well, it certainly makes ME pinker..oww;))
kls_01
Champaign, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 12, 2007
6:24 PM

Post #3728268

lol
bigcityal
Menasha, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 12, 2007
6:28 PM

Post #3728283

Echinacea germinate slow for me, but I am used to annuals that come up overnight too. Yes the cold stratifying could be a problem if they weren't chilled or commercial seed. They sure reseed well on their own here, but as a plant I prefer to just divide them for new plants.


Is this purple ;)

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luv_lee_garden
Sterling Heights, MI
(Zone 6b)

July 12, 2007
7:05 PM

Post #3728378

tggfisk - yes it is in the eye of the beholder, and I think that it all depends on what is surrounding the color to bring it out. Plus cameras don't do flowers justice.

dale - I have to agree your garden is beautiful, mine will be one day. - to you in adoration!

bigcityal - that is purple! and I like that. I like mine too! Again cameras don't do justice.
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

July 12, 2007
8:13 PM

Post #3728582

I can see I am going to have adjust the color on my internal monitor :-)

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tggfisk
Garner, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 12, 2007
10:18 PM

Post #3729061

Can you work on mine while you're at it? ;-))
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2007
1:05 AM

Post #3729695

I have all kind of coneflowers and all were grown from seed except for the Montana Sky I got this year. They are all different shapes and colors of pink and purple.

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2007
1:08 AM

Post #3729705

Here's the other side of the bed.

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tggfisk
Garner, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 13, 2007
3:51 AM

Post #3730349

Pepper~Pure coneflower heaven:-)
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2007
11:04 AM

Post #3730700

lol. I have irises next to this bed and the coneflowers jumped this year to surround them. I am gonna pull those few out later his year
NatureLover1950
Vicksburg, MS
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2007
8:39 PM

Post #3739490

For what it's worth, I have purple coneflowers on the east side of my house (morning sun only) and on the west side (gets blasted with very hot afternoon/evening sun). The ones in the east garden hold their color better that the ones in the west garden. BTW, the ones in the west garden were volunteer seedlings from the east garden flowers. I too had lots of trouble growing coneflowers from seed. I just buy one plant and wait for it to reseed itself.
Motrish
Saint James, MO

July 16, 2007
3:39 PM

Post #3742174

Hope you don't mind if I jump in here. I planted purple coneflower packet seeds in the summer of 2006. Presently the plants are growing well in the sunny areas EXCEPT no flower stalks at all! I just read in a gardening book that seeds produce inferior plants so I guess that's what I now have. The PC plants that I bought at the nursery this spring are full of flowers. My gardening book says propagation is best by division or with nursery plants. It also says full sun may bleach out the purple color-so I guess that's why some are pinkish. I'm new at all this and seem to learn best by making mistakes. --Trish
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

July 17, 2007
2:06 AM

Post #3744600

All my coneflowers are in mostly shade. I have all shades in there it seems. The coneflowers are from a wildflower seed mix with fertilizer. Got it at Wal*Mart several years as a last ditch effort to get something to grow in the yard.

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