Hi GardenGuyKin, I have a large perennial bed I would like to add low growing coneflowers in the front.I tried white swan but they are about the same height as my double deckers and block the view of them so I need to move them back a bit.
Edited to add: I will ask at the garden center this weekend.
I have a few suggestions. Echinacea 'After Midnight' height is only around 12". Both Echinacea 'Pink Double Delight' and 'Little Giant' are 18-24". I think a white Echinacea would look really nice in front of your 'Double Decker' (which is 40" heigh, according to my info) and a shorter white Echinacea is 'Virgin', which is only 20-24". Another white suggestion that I would have it 'Coconut Lime' which gets 24-30".
Wow thanks everyone.I never realized there was such a difference in heights between cultivars.It looks like I have alot of options to work with. Looks like I get to go shopping again : ) Thank you all for your help!
I went to two different nurseries this week to look for coneflowers. It was interesting to see the differences. It seems that coneflowers can grow alot taller than the given range, when they are planted under ideal conditions, and taken care of. They can also be considerably shorter as well - I would assume that is when they are not grown under ideal conditions or it could be that they are a slightly mutated strain.
I saw harvest moon at two nurseries. One was only about 1 1/2 foot high and blooming. The other one was about 2 1/2 feet. Kims's knees was considerably shorter at one nursery as well (probably about a foot difference - all plants were blooming). White swan had the greatest variation in height. It ranged from 2 1/2 feet to 4 feet. I didn't have the opportunity to compare the growers, since I didn't know that I would be visiting a second nursery the next day.
So I guess the moral is that if you want a shorter version, try to find one that is short in the nursery, and then don't give it ideal conditions.
I found "baby white" at that nursery Tabasco was talking about - maybe on another thread? Jelitto's maybe? Can't remember. The only problem with Joyce Hazzard's seeds is you need to buy 250 or 500 seeds at a time. Joyce is great, though.
Carrie, there are probably several people around this forum who might be interested if you are considering getting some seeds - like me. I don't need several hundred coneflowers either. I was also considering the prima donna or ruby star as well.
Victor and Al - a double recommendation from you two re: Garden Crossings did me in!! I lost my head and bought not only Lilliput but Pink Double Delight and After Midnight as well. Yikes!
They're probably all hybrids so I can't propagate them...right?? Oh well! That's my only big splurge this summer...gulp!
Sammi - I have the same thing in mind that you are going to do...good luck with yours!!
My plants arrived from GC and are happily soaking up the rain we're getting right now..Yay! Victor and Al - you were right...the plants are very healthy! I'm still feeling terribly compulsive about buying all three...but 100 years from now, who will remember that I lost my head??!!
I got Lilliput, After Midnight and Pink Double Delight. With the rain we've had, they are looking very healthy in their new homes. I'll be anxious to see them do their thing next summer!! Now I still need one of the white varieties, but that will have to wait a year...or I may get one for Florida this winter and see if I can harvest some seeds for here. I doubt that will work with a white one though...unless one of you can tell me of a white variety that is an heirloom. I'd guess they may all be hybrids.
Ugh I need short ones!!! Can't seem to find them here...I have decided (sorry folks) that my clematis are my primary plants so I need shorter plants in front and I love the coneflowers! I guess I can't have it all eh?
Carrie - I think Dawn doesn't want tall coneflowers that will block the view of the clematis flowers that are growing behind her front border. I have the same situation with mine. My clematis are draping over a 4-foot fence, and I have to keep the flowers in front of it fairly low in order not to miss the clematis when it blooms.
Dawn - was I sending you anything already? I might have a few shorter ones for you to try. Send me a dmail, otherwise I won't remember.
They might not be fully true yes. I have 2 tests that will be flowering next year.
DonnieBrook, Where did you get your After Midnight and Pink Double Delight? I mail-ordered After Midnight from ForestFarm, but it was rather puny for $8.95 each. It's in the ground, so we'll see how it does! I haven't found the shorter varieties locally, but I am still looking! :)
Well, my 'After Midnight' bit the dust. I can't blame the company, as I have been having cat problems and trying all sorts of preventatives. We have a lot of strays in our neighborhood (and one next door) that are using my flower beds as their litter box. The plant was partially damaged and covered in mulch when I discovered it was dying... I will try another company next time, I just was not all that impressed with Forest Farm.