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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 15, 2007
6:38 PM

Post #3860167

Luc of Florida Colors Nursery has opened his PhotoBucket Album of his Thai Plumerias from his trip there last year. Here is the link: http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/vannoorbeeck/ He also has these for sale and has posted some very good prices for them. Anyone interested should call Luc and Carol as these will go very fast, I'm sure. This is a great and safe way to buy Thai plumerias without having to worry about an import certificate, phyto certificate, expensive postage, and/or getting a plumeria with a virus, unlike purchasing from a seller in Thailand on Ebay. Some of these are so beautiful. Just as a side note, I am not affiliated with this business in any way, but I do highly recommend them.

Here is the price list for the Thai plants:

Siam Ruby $35

Purple Jack $65

Purple Jade Dragon $50

Violet Pink $50

Queen Purple $65

New Purple $65

Vishanu Gold $65

Butterfly Gold $35

Wakwo $65

New Srisupakorn $35

Coral Cream $35

4646 $40

Thai Tornado $65

Salmon Pink $35

Siam Red $35

Thai Lurline $35

Calcutta Star $35

Mango Brush $35

Orange Rainbow $35

Dancing Girl $35

Big Mountain Rainbow $35

Irma #5 $35

100 Pink $35

J 105 $40

Mermaid Gem $35

Geepet $40

Puttaraska $65

La Belle $25

Thai Orange $35


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tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

August 16, 2007
12:37 AM

Post #3861517

that butterfly gold is a beaut! mango brush resembles jeannie mo.
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

August 16, 2007
1:23 AM

Post #3861739

Those are gorgeous!
I have always had great experiences with Luc and Carol
They are top notch folks
They have my complete confidence as a buyer.
Brads buds n blooms sells some lovely Thai varieties also.
Im sure his are safe as well
Brad is another completely awesome source.
http://bradsbudsandblooms.com/index.php?cPath=31&osCsid=0c638c539a80e3201e7aefadd520e544
I know Lopakas Business partner in Thailand sells on E-bay under the name 123yaowaluk
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZ123yaowalukQQssPageNameZSTRKQ3aMEFSQ3aMESOI
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

August 16, 2007
1:27 AM

Post #3861753

clare - luc is selling these plants grafted, right?
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 16, 2007
1:34 AM

Post #3861789

Hi Dete, you're right about 'Mango Brush' resembling 'Jeannie Moragne.' At first, I thought it was a typo and that they meant 'Mango Blush.' It kind of looks like 'Mango Blush' too. I agree about 'Butterfly Gold.' I can't wait for mine to bloom! Yes, I believe that they are all grafted plants and not cuttings.

Michael, you are certainly right about Brad having great plumies too. I can vouch for him also. I've never purchased plants from Robert's seller, but Robert sure is a great guy, and he has posted some wonderful pictures.
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

August 16, 2007
1:36 AM

Post #3861797

Il let you know
I plan on growing my adeniums from them
I want 3 or 4 of the variegated plumies too.
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

August 16, 2007
1:41 AM

Post #3861822

clare - of course you know that i have to get butterfly gold now! LOL you have it. haha! let's see what this arizona heat does to it. oh luc...
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 16, 2007
1:48 AM

Post #3861854

LOL! As soon as I saw it, I asked Kukiat for it, and since he is such a wonderful person, he sent it to me! That Purple Jade and J105 caught my eye too. So many beauties; so little land. Sigh...
Danasplants
Mulberry, FL

August 16, 2007
1:52 AM

Post #3861873

I have a question on these there grafted maybe 13 inches . Your still looking a year or 2 before they flower? It almost seems like they take a seedling cut it off and graft it on a no name how does that work. Will it take a couple years to flower? All I have purchased the top graft is small in diameter. Cuttings that i have bought are fat and flower this year have not had any experince on grafts. thanks Dana
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 16, 2007
1:57 AM

Post #3861892

Dana, the seedling is the root stock and makes a strong root stock for the graft. The scion is the named cultivar and can flower this year or next. A seedling can take anywhere from 2-5 years to flower on average. Cuttings don't alway flower after they have finished rooting and sometimes flower the following year also.

The grafts that Florida Colors Nursery makes are quality grafts with plenty of scion (cultivar), but the grafts that come from Thailand and other areas can be smaller. In Thailand, they can make many plants out of one cutting by grafting only one small node or bud. All these small grafts will be large in a short time. Grafting is a very efficient way to propagate plants, and grafts travel long distances so much better than cuttings. Grafted plants take the worry out of rooting as well.

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tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

August 16, 2007
1:59 AM

Post #3861900

dana - luc grafts the cultivar on to a seedling root stock. i started growing plumeria in 2001. every grafted plant that i bought from luc that same year bloomed by the end of the year. you don't know what the branch was doing on the mother tree before it was cut. as far as it is concerned, it still thinks that mom is below. at least that's my take on it.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

August 16, 2007
10:37 AM

Post #3862745

I have Mango Brush blooming right now, It has much more magenta-red than Jeannie Moragne. Both are gorgeous cultivars and are keepers in my limited space.

I am a great fan of grafted plants. As Clare states, the strong rootstock gives you a headstart on just rooted cuttings.

I have never regretted dealing with Florida Colors. Carol and Luc are the best.
Danasplants
Mulberry, FL

August 16, 2007
11:29 AM

Post #3862803

Thanks for the heads up on that. It just amazes me how that works. Alot of the cuttings I have recived have flowered before they rooted. I'm going to give it a shot and try grafting my self. Think it would be neat to take a small tree and have different flowers on each tip.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

August 16, 2007
1:25 PM

Post #3863115

Danasplants, others have tried that also and it is a neat idea. The key is to take plants that grow at a similar rate or it will grow into a very lopsided tree.
vossner
Richmond, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 16, 2007
1:57 PM

Post #3863202

Of course, I had to fall in love w/ the most exp. one, Wakwo. The Purple Jack is lovely also, very unique color. Wonder what Purple Jack is like.
Another great fan of FL Colors here.
speechless and drooling over var. plumies
I wonder what color flower does "silver" produce
I am generally crazy about red, but Siam Red isn't speaking to me, lol. wonder if camera isn't capturing its real beauty. I have so much trouble w/ reds and my camera.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

August 16, 2007
2:18 PM

Post #3863259

Vossner, trust me that Siam red is a knockout. Luc and Carol arrived at out luau last year with one of them in bloom and it didn't get off their truck before I had my name tag on it! The reds are indeed VERY hard to capture. This flower is almost luminescent.

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 16, 2007
3:38 PM

Post #3863502

Hi Nery! It is hard not to fall in love with all of those Thai cultivars, isn't it? It is very true that reds are hard to capture with a camera as Hetty said. My 'Siam Red' hasn't bloomed yet, but it is said to be magnificent. 'Siam Ruby' is also a good one. Here's Kukiat's picture of 'Siam Red.'

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vossner
Richmond, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 16, 2007
4:26 PM

Post #3863640

wowzers, Hetty and Clare. those are spectacular and they ARE speaking to me now, lol!
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 16, 2007
4:36 PM

Post #3863673

LOL, Nery. We are pretty good enablers, yes? LOL!
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

August 16, 2007
4:43 PM

Post #3863691

clare and enabler. say it isn't so!!! LOL calling luc now... bad clare! bad clare! LOL
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 16, 2007
4:49 PM

Post #3863720

Hey, Dete, come on over to the thread of Nautical's. He's got a temperature gauge! Tell Luc and Carol that I said "hi!"
jackiescompost
Mission Viejo, CA
(Zone 10a)

August 16, 2007
11:09 PM

Post #3865281

Ok. You all have me all worked up and I'm ready to call and place my order.

WHAT's the PHONe NumBER??? :-)

Jackie (I kinda like that orange rainbow)

jackiescompost
Mission Viejo, CA
(Zone 10a)

August 16, 2007
11:13 PM

Post #3865300

I also like the Thai Orange, Irma #5, 4222 (somebody NAME that poor little flower), and Geepet.

I need more sky room.

Jackie

Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 17, 2007
12:03 AM

Post #3865451

LOL, Jackie! Here's a link with the phone number: http://www.floridacolors.com/ Just a note, that 'Thai Orange' is actually 'Penang Peach,' according to Luc and others. I'm not sure why they are still listing it as 'Thai Orange.'
jackiescompost
Mission Viejo, CA
(Zone 10a)

August 17, 2007
1:07 AM

Post #3865675

Thanks Clare! Now... which one, which one, which ones, which ones...

kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 17, 2007
3:56 AM

Post #3866336

My preference in the above list are...

4646 --very large inflo (much better than Thai Tornado --in my opinion)
Vishanu Gold --the largest flower of all
Coral Cream --large inflo and exceptional veining
Jack's Purple --Largest purple
Siam Ruby --compact and bloom year round.
J105 aka Lampang Symphony

I don't know what "New Purple" is.
jackiescompost
Mission Viejo, CA
(Zone 10a)

August 17, 2007
4:02 AM

Post #3866365

I didn't see a picture of 4646 or Coral Cream on the link. Would the Siam Ruby bloom year round in southern California? So that means it would keep its leaves?

kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 17, 2007
4:35 AM

Post #3866461

Jackie, you may find my pictures in www.plumerias.com under my gallery. Like other rubra plumerias, Siam Ruby drops its leaves in winter but has much shorter dormant period as compared to Siam Red. Siam Ruby bloom easily and year round in Thailand but I do not know what it would be in southern California.
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

August 17, 2007
4:37 AM

Post #3866470

I havent quite understood the differences between the species
Could you elaborate for me?
Thanks
jackiescompost
Mission Viejo, CA
(Zone 10a)

August 17, 2007
4:44 PM

Post #3867735

Thanks, Kukiat. I went to the link you provided but am somewhat confused where to locate your gallery.
kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 17, 2007
4:48 PM

Post #3867747

Michael, I guess you asked me about the difference between Siam Ruby and Siam Red.

Siam Red has very large inflo especially when it is grown in large container and fed well. But the inflo is not that large for big tree planted in the ground. It has rounder petals and larger flower size. Notice the orange with veinings at center. Notice the leaves, it has long narrow pointed leaves.

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kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 17, 2007
4:55 PM

Post #3867766

A close-up of Siam Red

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kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 17, 2007
5:04 PM

Post #3867792

Siam Ruby is a compact plant but has slightly smaller inflo and flower size. There is only tiny area of orange with no veining at center. Its leaves are broader and shorter. I like this kind of red better.

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kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 17, 2007
5:05 PM

Post #3867797

A close-up of Siam Ruby.

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kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 17, 2007
5:18 PM

Post #3867854

Jackie, here is the direct link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/plumerias/sets/72057594120115990/

Coral Cream is there. Below is #4646

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Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 17, 2007
5:30 PM

Post #3867882

Beautiful pictures, Kukiat! It is so great to have your expertise here! Your pictures are so wonderful. I could stare at them all day.
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

August 17, 2007
6:37 PM

Post #3868103

I meant the species plants like rubra vs alba etc...
Danasplants
Mulberry, FL

August 17, 2007
6:48 PM

Post #3868136

Cool pictures Mary Ellen's a honey those pictures are what dreams are made of all that was missing were the smells! First time I have ever saw a double thanks for taking the time to share Dana
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 17, 2007
6:49 PM

Post #3868141

Michael, Kukiat can probably answer better than I can, but species in general are determined by the leaves. Different leaves equal a separate species -- i.e., pudica, alba, bahamaensis, jamaicaensis, sericifolia, tuberculata, etc. Sometimes the names describe the shape of the leaves -- such as stenophylla, stenopetala, obtusa, etc. -- and some species names describe where they originated and are synonyms of P. obtusa. P. rubra are the most widely distributed obviously. The other species have mainly white flowers -- some of which are fragrant, and some aren't. There are also hybrids within the species; for example, Plumeria obtusa 'Singapore' is a hybrid as is 'Mel Pa Bowman' and 'Dwarf Sinapore Pink.' That is my limited understanding of the species.
jackiescompost
Mission Viejo, CA
(Zone 10a)

August 17, 2007
9:17 PM

Post #3868630

Thanks, Kukiat. That Coral Cream is just gorgeous! Somehow I've missed the link to your site from the first one you gave. The pictures are just lovely. I'm going to have a tough time making a decision. I've seen at least one described as a small tree and since I have very limited sky space (not a lot of sun because we have a lot of palms meaning a lot of shade or filtered light), I'm limited on what I can pick. That is, unless there are plumerias that thrive and bloom in the shade :-)

Thanks again, Kukiat.

Jackie
Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

August 17, 2007
9:23 PM

Post #3868644

I have a tall Jamaicensis Ill be moving on.
Im just not enamored with it anymore.
Real tall and no flowers yet, hmmmm... whut to do
jackiescompost
Mission Viejo, CA
(Zone 10a)

August 17, 2007
9:44 PM

Post #3868721

Ooops, my mistake. Unless the Coral Cream *is* the 4646. At any rate, the plumeria you show is gorgeous.

Jackie

kukiat
Patumthani
Thailand
(Zone 11)

August 18, 2007
1:53 AM

Post #3869528

Michael and Clare, I am not the expert in this area. In general, botanists look at flowers not leaves when they try to separate plants into species. To be more precise, ovary of the flowers are the most important parts.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

August 18, 2007
3:02 AM

Post #3869759

Very interesting, Kukiat. I always thought it was the leaves, but segregating by flowers makes more sense.

Michael, my P. jamaicaensis is tall too, and I just noticed a small inflo on it today. My P. bahamaensis has been flowering, and the scent is so strong and wonderful. It has the same fragrance as 'Singapore.'

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Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

August 18, 2007
3:40 AM

Post #3869858

My 2 yr old Pudica is now over 6 foot from 18 inches
She has more than 20 inflos and will be putting on a fabulous show shortly
I am sooo stoked!!
I do love my Pudica, scent or not. ;)
FrangipaniAz
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

August 19, 2007
6:08 AM

Post #3873397

oh no, I need to put an order in... I need to have one of those... Detrick, I have no self control...
Brittany
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

August 19, 2007
4:14 PM

Post #3874304

hey B - i already know...

how many seedlings do you have now?
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

January 22, 2008
5:39 PM

Post #4438679

bumping this up:-)
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

January 23, 2008
5:25 AM

Post #4441674

i hope that my butterfly gold blooms this year. it seemed to struggle trying to adjust to our heat.
Clare_CA

(Zone 10b)

January 23, 2008
6:48 PM

Post #4443397

I have that one too, Dete, and I can't wait. It looks positively gorgeous. My Siam Ruby is starting to bloom in the greenhouse, and Blue Violet has an inflo that I hope will hold on until spring. Coral Cream started to bloom, but it got too cold for it. I hope that inflo holds on as well.
Ncasselberryfla
Geneva, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 11, 2008
10:47 PM

Post #4525328

Hey Clare-----I know this is off-topic, but if you would, please email me at my person addie-----my computer died of old age and I can't get my address book until I can recover the stuff on my hard drive, which will be a few more days. Anyway, I am trying to quickly round up the people in my addiebook so I don't have to wait.

Thanks!!!!!

Brad

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