Luc of Florida Colors Nursery has opened his PhotoBucket Album of his Thai Plumerias from his trip there last year. Here is the link: http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/vannoorbeeck/ He also has these for sale and has posted some very good prices for them. Anyone interested should call Luc and Carol as these will go very fast, I'm sure. This is a great and safe way to buy Thai plumerias without having to worry about an import certificate, phyto certificate, expensive postage, and/or getting a plumeria with a virus, unlike purchasing from a seller in Thailand on Ebay. Some of these are so beautiful. Just as a side note, I am not affiliated with this business in any way, but I do highly recommend them.
Hi Dete, you're right about 'Mango Brush' resembling 'Jeannie Moragne.' At first, I thought it was a typo and that they meant 'Mango Blush.' It kind of looks like 'Mango Blush' too. I agree about 'Butterfly Gold.' I can't wait for mine to bloom! Yes, I believe that they are all grafted plants and not cuttings.
Michael, you are certainly right about Brad having great plumies too. I can vouch for him also. I've never purchased plants from Robert's seller, but Robert sure is a great guy, and he has posted some wonderful pictures.
I have a question on these there grafted maybe 13 inches . Your still looking a year or 2 before they flower? It almost seems like they take a seedling cut it off and graft it on a no name how does that work. Will it take a couple years to flower? All I have purchased the top graft is small in diameter. Cuttings that i have bought are fat and flower this year have not had any experince on grafts. thanks Dana
Dana, the seedling is the root stock and makes a strong root stock for the graft. The scion is the named cultivar and can flower this year or next. A seedling can take anywhere from 2-5 years to flower on average. Cuttings don't alway flower after they have finished rooting and sometimes flower the following year also.
The grafts that Florida Colors Nursery makes are quality grafts with plenty of scion (cultivar), but the grafts that come from Thailand and other areas can be smaller. In Thailand, they can make many plants out of one cutting by grafting only one small node or bud. All these small grafts will be large in a short time. Grafting is a very efficient way to propagate plants, and grafts travel long distances so much better than cuttings. Grafted plants take the worry out of rooting as well.
dana - luc grafts the cultivar on to a seedling root stock. i started growing plumeria in 2001. every grafted plant that i bought from luc that same year bloomed by the end of the year. you don't know what the branch was doing on the mother tree before it was cut. as far as it is concerned, it still thinks that mom is below. at least that's my take on it.
Thanks for the heads up on that. It just amazes me how that works. Alot of the cuttings I have recived have flowered before they rooted. I'm going to give it a shot and try grafting my self. Think it would be neat to take a small tree and have different flowers on each tip.
Of course, I had to fall in love w/ the most exp. one, Wakwo. The Purple Jack is lovely also, very unique color. Wonder what Purple Jack is like.
Another great fan of FL Colors here.
speechless and drooling over var. plumies
I wonder what color flower does "silver" produce
I am generally crazy about red, but Siam Red isn't speaking to me, lol. wonder if camera isn't capturing its real beauty. I have so much trouble w/ reds and my camera.
Vossner, trust me that Siam red is a knockout. Luc and Carol arrived at out luau last year with one of them in bloom and it didn't get off their truck before I had my name tag on it! The reds are indeed VERY hard to capture. This flower is almost luminescent.
Hi Nery! It is hard not to fall in love with all of those Thai cultivars, isn't it? It is very true that reds are hard to capture with a camera as Hetty said. My 'Siam Red' hasn't bloomed yet, but it is said to be magnificent. 'Siam Ruby' is also a good one. Here's Kukiat's picture of 'Siam Red.'
LOL, Jackie! Here's a link with the phone number: http://www.floridacolors.com/ Just a note, that 'Thai Orange' is actually 'Penang Peach,' according to Luc and others. I'm not sure why they are still listing it as 'Thai Orange.'
4646 --very large inflo (much better than Thai Tornado --in my opinion)
Vishanu Gold --the largest flower of all
Coral Cream --large inflo and exceptional veining
Jack's Purple --Largest purple
Siam Ruby --compact and bloom year round.
J105 aka Lampang Symphony
Jackie, you may find my pictures in http://www.plumerias.com under my gallery. Like other rubra plumerias, Siam Ruby drops its leaves in winter but has much shorter dormant period as compared to Siam Red. Siam Ruby bloom easily and year round in Thailand but I do not know what it would be in southern California.
Michael, I guess you asked me about the difference between Siam Ruby and Siam Red.
Siam Red has very large inflo especially when it is grown in large container and fed well. But the inflo is not that large for big tree planted in the ground. It has rounder petals and larger flower size. Notice the orange with veinings at center. Notice the leaves, it has long narrow pointed leaves.
Siam Ruby is a compact plant but has slightly smaller inflo and flower size. There is only tiny area of orange with no veining at center. Its leaves are broader and shorter. I like this kind of red better.
Michael, Kukiat can probably answer better than I can, but species in general are determined by the leaves. Different leaves equal a separate species -- i.e., pudica, alba, bahamaensis, jamaicaensis, sericifolia, tuberculata, etc. Sometimes the names describe the shape of the leaves -- such as stenophylla, stenopetala, obtusa, etc. -- and some species names describe where they originated and are synonyms of P. obtusa. P. rubra are the most widely distributed obviously. The other species have mainly white flowers -- some of which are fragrant, and some aren't. There are also hybrids within the species; for example, Plumeria obtusa 'Singapore' is a hybrid as is 'Mel Pa Bowman' and 'Dwarf Sinapore Pink.' That is my limited understanding of the species.
Thanks, Kukiat. That Coral Cream is just gorgeous! Somehow I've missed the link to your site from the first one you gave. The pictures are just lovely. I'm going to have a tough time making a decision. I've seen at least one described as a small tree and since I have very limited sky space (not a lot of sun because we have a lot of palms meaning a lot of shade or filtered light), I'm limited on what I can pick. That is, unless there are plumerias that thrive and bloom in the shade :-)
Michael and Clare, I am not the expert in this area. In general, botanists look at flowers not leaves when they try to separate plants into species. To be more precise, ovary of the flowers are the most important parts.
Very interesting, Kukiat. I always thought it was the leaves, but segregating by flowers makes more sense.
Michael, my P. jamaicaensis is tall too, and I just noticed a small inflo on it today. My P. bahamaensis has been flowering, and the scent is so strong and wonderful. It has the same fragrance as 'Singapore.'
I have that one too, Dete, and I can't wait. It looks positively gorgeous. My Siam Ruby is starting to bloom in the greenhouse, and Blue Violet has an inflo that I hope will hold on until spring. Coral Cream started to bloom, but it got too cold for it. I hope that inflo holds on as well.
Hey Clare-----I know this is off-topic, but if you would, please email me at my person addie-----my computer died of old age and I can't get my address book until I can recover the stuff on my hard drive, which will be a few more days. Anyway, I am trying to quickly round up the people in my addiebook so I don't have to wait.