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Daturas: How can you tell when the seedpod is ready to be harvested?

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Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

August 30, 2007
4:54 PM

Post #3918165

I've a few of the double purple dats. They made many seedpods. I'd like to harvest them before they're brown and burst open and release the seeds every where. Also, I'd like to conserve some energy to some of these healthy looking branches so I can explore its cutting potential. When the bumpy prominents on the seedpod smooth out, are they ripened enough to be picked? Any advices would be greatly appreciated.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

August 30, 2007
8:22 PM

Post #3918860

Hi,

I made a web page which tells you what you need to know.

http://www.xeramtheum.com/Daturaseeds.htm

X

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

August 30, 2007
8:31 PM

Post #3918897

Thank you X, it's greatly appreciated.
jasmyne
Lindenwold, NJ
(Zone 7a)

September 3, 2007
6:59 PM

Post #3932453

Very informative website, X. Thanks.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

September 3, 2007
9:24 PM

Post #3933033

Thanks!

X
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 12, 2007
5:21 PM

Post #3966896

X, your website is wonderful (I have bookmarked it) but I have a bit of a problem. My dats are in zone 5a. They will freeze before the pods split (44 degress this morning). What happens if I remove them prematurely? They are in two large and heavy pots.

Thank you again.

Donna

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

September 12, 2007
5:29 PM

Post #3966928

Donna;
I afraid you'll have some how to manage to bring those pots into a sheltered area pronto. The cold weather will induce dormancy on most tender plants, if any colder than that it will wilt for sure. Let's hear from X.'s suggestions. (Harvesting the seedpods too soon, they may not be fully mature to yeild viable seeds? - although, those seedpod that appear plump, I was lucky to have a few seedlings sprouted in the past).
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

September 12, 2007
5:32 PM

Post #3966937

It depends on how far along they are. Datura are (ahem excuse me) weeds. A frost won't hurt them unless it stays below freezing for a couple of hours. If it's not a bother .. just cover them when you get a frost. If they haven't matured by hard freeze time, cut off the branches the pods are on and hang them upside down in a cool dry place where kids and critters can't get to them.

X
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 12, 2007
5:32 PM

Post #3966938

Thank you, Lily_love. Gonna enlist the spouse and try to move one inside !

Donna

DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 12, 2007
5:34 PM

Post #3966940

Oh, thank you X! Will do! The people on GW are so great!

Donna
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

September 12, 2007
5:35 PM

Post #3966945

I'm really stumped where people believe that datura are fragile, can't be transplanted etc. In my many years of experience, they can be abused to the max like brugmansia and thrive! I've had datura that were cut off at the base, throw into a compost pile and a few weeks later start producing buds!

Even if the plant gets frost bitten the pods will continue to mature.

X
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 12, 2007
5:54 PM

Post #3967009

X,

I know I thought they were delicate or hard to grow until last year. I was admiring them at someone's house, and the very kind gentleman who grew them noticed me from inside, came out and offered me some seeds. I of course said yes. I just stuck some in the ground and they were incredible. This year I started them in peat pots and put them in the ground and in pots. The ones in pots are huge and have bloomed their brains out, but our season is short enough that the self seeders are only about six inches tall.

I'll do whatever I can to keep them going!

Donna
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

September 12, 2007
5:59 PM

Post #3967023

If you have room with a south facing window that stays cool, you should start your seeds around January to get a jump on the growing season. I have a greenhouse and start all of my seeds a few weeks after the winter solstice.

X
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 12, 2007
8:08 PM

Post #3967445

X,

I have a shop light and seed starting station in the basement. Usually in January I am starting lilies grown fom seed. I guess I'll have the daturas give them some company. I have a few mostly sunny places in my yard where they will go well. I'll mark my calendar.

Thanks again.

Donna

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

September 12, 2007
9:00 PM

Post #3967644

Donna;
Sounds as if we can team up. We both enjoy Lilies and dats. Keep touch, we can share our experiences and let each other know how they turn out.

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 12, 2007
11:03 PM

Post #3968075

LL,

I'd love to! I love lilies and scatter them all over my yard. I have trumpets, Orienpets, species, candidum, asiatics and Orientals, but there's nothing more wonderful than growing formosanum/longiflorum crosses from seed. I get seeds fron the North American Lily society, start them in January and start moving them out when the weather warms. That way I get blooms in October and November. Nothing like it!

Donna

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

September 12, 2007
11:20 PM

Post #3968122

Yooohooo, I've found myself a new friend from up North. Let's go gardening and talk about lilies. :-)

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 13, 2007
12:59 PM

Post #3970002

Cool!

Rosepoint Lace and Ariadne

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 13, 2007
1:01 PM

Post #3970013

Closer up.

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 13, 2007
1:03 PM

Post #3970018

Regale. Easy, simple, wonderful!

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 13, 2007
1:05 PM

Post #3970024

Sorbonne.

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 13, 2007
1:09 PM

Post #3970035

Anastasia

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 13, 2007
1:11 PM

Post #3970041

LL,

What is the dat in your picture? I'm still at Dat Stage 101. And how do we use Go Gardening?

Donna

Edited for word spacing.

This message was edited Sep 13, 2007 8:12 AM

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

September 13, 2007
1:57 PM

Post #3970177

Donna;
All gorgeous lilies! Woohoooo. Go gardening just a term implying let's have fun and exchange ideas. :-)

My Dats. is the 'Double Golden' variety. They bloom all summer, and making tons of seedpods. Some already selfsown, I transplanted a few and will try to overwinter them indoor this year. Will keep you posted how those seedlings turn out.
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 13, 2007
2:17 PM

Post #3970228

LL,

This is great!

Donna

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

September 13, 2007
4:14 PM

Post #3970639

I think so. :-)

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