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Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


September 7, 2007
1:48 PM

Post #3947058

As many of you know, PlantFiles uses a checklist for all new entries to check for genus and family names that have been reviewed and validated.

This new thread is for any PF user to request an additional genus or family name not already on our checklist. (The last thread was getting a bit long ;o)

If you include a family name, please note whether it needs to be added to the checklist, or if you're simply including it for reference.
ginger749

September 7, 2007
4:32 PM

Post #3947638

Thanks Terry .

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


September 19, 2007
4:48 AM

Post #3991990

Need to add Pterodiscus. thanks

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


September 19, 2007
1:24 PM

Post #3992649

Pterodiscus has been added!
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



September 25, 2007
9:48 PM

Post #4016636

Terry,
could you please add the following genera:

in Epacridaceae:
Lissanthe
Pentachondra
Prionotes
Richea
Sphenotoma
Sprengelia

and in Proteaceae
Orites


thanks,
Ken
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



September 26, 2007
12:57 AM

Post #4017297

Hi Ken,

I've added them to the accepted list for you.

Joan

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


September 26, 2007
1:06 PM

Post #4018663

Thanks Joan!!!!

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

September 26, 2007
4:43 PM

Post #4019379

Quoting:in Epacridaceae


Note that Epacridaceae (and also Empetraceae, Pyrolaceae, Monotropaceae) have been merged into Ericaceae now:

Kron, K. A. 1996. Phylogenetic Relationships of Empetraceae, Epacridaceae, Ericaceae, Monotropaceae, and Pyrolaceae: Evidence from Nuclear Ribosomal 18s Sequence Data. Annals of Botany 77: 293-303.
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/77/4/293?ijkey=dc332f8aefc294878b05847771a1f1bbc6419334

Kron, K. A., and M. W. Chase. 1993. Systematics of the Ericaceae, Empetraceae, Epacridaceae and related taxa based upon rbcL sequence data. Annals of the Missouri Botanic Garden 80: 735-741.
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



September 26, 2007
8:46 PM

Post #4020201

Hi Resin,

I did notice that some of our sources were using Ericaceae, but some of them were still using Epicaridaceae. I made a note of it and we'll research it further once we get caught up with some of the other family changes we are working on.

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

Joan
CHudnall
Sebring, FL
(Zone 9a)

September 30, 2007
6:36 AM

Post #4032750

Please add the following Genus and Species:

Family - Rhamnaceae Buckthorn family ** Reference - Rhamnaceae is already listed **
Genus - Reynosia Griseb. darlingplum
Species - Reynosia septentrionalis Urban darlingplum

Native to Florida - Status: Threatened

-- A shrub to small tree with a full rounded growth habit --

Thanks! :-)
ginger749

October 2, 2007
1:27 AM

Post #4038870

Hello Terry ,
I have searched high and low for all the details on this Tree .
I can only get 3 out of the 4 requirements .
The Tree is called a Eucalyptus Codonocarpa ,
Commonly called a Bell-Fruited Mallee .
Quoting:On the high ridges to the west and south-west of Mt Norman are the park's only stands of bell-fruited mallee, Eucalyptus codonocarpa. Eucalypts more commonly observed along the walking tracks are New England Blackbutt, Eucalyptus andrewsii subsp. andrewsii, round-leaved gum, orange gum, yellow box, apple box, Youman's stringybark and broad-leaved stingybark.

Quoted from this link : http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/parks_and_forests/find_a_park_or_forest/girraween_national_park/girraween__nature_culture_and_history/
Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 2, 2007
2:13 AM

Post #4039084

CHudnall, I've added Reynosia to the checklist.

Kell, you should be able to add any Eucalyptus species to PlantFiles without running it past us here - the genus is already in the checklist. If you run into any snags creating an entry, be sure to double-check the spelling of the genus and family names, as those are the fields that trigger a system check.
ginger749

October 2, 2007
2:32 AM

Post #4039128

Terry I tried and got this message .

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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

October 2, 2007
2:39 AM

Post #4039151

It looks like you might have a space in front of the E in Eucalyptus, it's hard to tell for sure though.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 2, 2007
2:51 AM

Post #4039178

I think ecrane is correct. Try typing it in and make sure there aren't any extra spaces.
ginger749

October 2, 2007
3:55 AM

Post #4039388

Yes thank you it worked .
And Pics are loaded .
CHudnall
Sebring, FL
(Zone 9a)

October 2, 2007
6:48 AM

Post #4039619

Thanks Terry :-) -- Christine
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 2, 2007
7:26 AM

Post #4039634

Kell, I have looked up Eucalyptus codonocarpa in the Flora of Australia and the Flora of New South Wales. The Flora of Australia has it as Eucalyptus approximans subsp. codonocarpa, with Eucalyptus codonocarpa as a synonym. The Flora of New South Wales has them the other way round.
I have added what details I can based on the two floras. One small correction that I cannot make, the species name is always in lower case, that is Eucalyptus codonocarpa NOT Eucalyptus Codonocarpa. If you created the entry, you should be able to amend it. If you open this page: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/163818/

you and only you, should find near the bottom of the page a link
Quoting: Edit this entry

follow this link and you can change the case of the species name,

Ken
ginger749

October 2, 2007
7:49 AM

Post #4039639

Thanks Mate .
I'll give it a try .
^
^
^
No Worries .
As usual , You Saved MY day .
I have 10 Pictures waiting in a Queue .
It was very exciting for me to finally photograph these trees .

I have been going to this exact spot for 46 years
and never knew anything about them .
It was not till I hooked up with you and DG my eyes were opened .
Kell
ginger749

October 7, 2007
6:46 AM

Post #4056903

Hi Terry ,
I have done the research on this .
Acacia venulose .
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/show_species_details.php?record_id=591759
What did I do wrong ? Kell

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ginger749

October 7, 2007
7:03 AM

Post #4056908

Tried this From another link:
http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/A/Acacia_venulosa.asp

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Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



October 7, 2007
12:59 PM

Post #4057157

Hi ginger749,

We no longer use the Fabaceae family in PlantFiles. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/413338/ We use the subfamilies instead. Therefore Acacia would fall under the Mimosaceae family.

About the Acacia genus, I can find reference to Acacia venulosa, but not Acacia wattle. You might want to double check which species you are trying to add.

Joan

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

October 7, 2007
5:16 PM

Post #4057782

Quoting:We no longer use the Fabaceae family in PlantFiles. [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com] We use the subfamilies instead. Therefore Acacia would fall under the Mimosaceae family

Nomenclatural point . . . if treating it as a subfamily rather than a family, the correct name ending is -oideae, i.e., Faboideae, Mimosoideae, Caesalpinioideae.

Resin
ginger749

October 7, 2007
6:19 PM

Post #4057942

Thanks Joan ,
I'll give that a shot .
I'm a simple Photographer trying to share My Pics with every one here on DG .
All these New to yall Plants just grow wild all around me .
If I can take some interesting Pic's of them and share , My joy is complete .
All this gobbledygook name calling is a little beyond little ole me .
Maybe all this wisdom comes with age ?
Maybe Im just to young to understand ? :o)
ginger749

October 7, 2007
6:29 PM

Post #4057964

Well Joan that didn't work either . groooowl
Time to take some more Pics . TTFN

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claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)

October 7, 2007
6:43 PM

Post #4057999

Use Mimosaceae as the family and it should work... I think when JoanJ referred to using subfamilies as families, the family suffix -aceae is used.
ginger749

October 7, 2007
7:00 PM

Post #4058057

Thanks Claypa ,
It worked this time .
Let's see how long it stays ?
ginger749

October 11, 2007
8:37 PM

Post #4072671

Terry,
could you please add the following genera:

Eupomatia


See here .
http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Eupomatia~laurina


Thanks Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 11, 2007
9:45 PM

Post #4072861

Eupomatia has been added to the checklist - you should be able to create an entry without any further problems!
ginger749

October 11, 2007
9:48 PM

Post #4072868

Thank you sir .
Cheers Kell.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 11, 2007
9:51 PM

Post #4072879

ummmm...ma'am will do ;o)

And you're very welcome!
ginger749

October 11, 2007
10:01 PM

Post #4072902

Oops Sorry ,
Why does Ken refer to you as a ~boy~ ?

The Family is also not there ?
Eupomatiaceae:

I only get these two options .
Eucommiaceae or Euphorbiaceae

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 11, 2007
10:11 PM

Post #4072928

I've added Eupomatiaceae as a valid family as well.

As to the other...guess you'll have to ask Ken ;o)
ginger749

October 11, 2007
10:13 PM

Post #4072936

Cool , Thanks .
Kell
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 11, 2007
10:31 PM

Post #4072993

When did I refer to Terry as a ~boy~ ?
ginger749

October 11, 2007
10:43 PM

Post #4073054

In the previous Forum to this .
I'll find it and come back .

Might take a while to find it .
Kell

By the way Ken , I found my mystery Plant .
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/164634/
Pics not there yet .

This message was edited Oct 12, 2007 8:47 AM
ginger749

October 12, 2007
7:25 AM

Post #4074579

Hi Terry ,
Could you please add family name :
Fabaceae - Mimosoideae . ( not sure which one ? )
Here is link to plant .
http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Acacia~melanoxylon
Thanks Kell ~ boy flower~

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

October 12, 2007
10:42 AM

Post #4074668

Hi Ginger,
Quoting:Fabaceae - Mimosoideae ( not sure which one ? )

That means family Fabaceae, subfamily Mimosoideae. Anything ending "-aceae" is a family, while anything ending "-oideae" is a subfamily.

Resin
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 12, 2007
11:39 AM

Post #4074782

Kell,
all the Acacia's, that is all the Mimosoideae get entered in the family Mimosaceae.

Ken
ginger749

October 13, 2007
8:24 PM

Post #4079292

Thanks Resin & Ken .
Yes it went straight through .
Went and Climbed Mt Barney yesterday .
Most of the flowers are finished .
But lots of new seeds I have not noticed before .
ginger749

October 14, 2007
4:21 AM

Post #4080534

Ken,
What Species: name do I use for this ?
http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/G/Grevillea_`Sid_Cadwell`.asp
Thanks .
Kell
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

October 14, 2007
5:37 AM

Post #4080658

That one is a hybrid cultivar that doesn't have a species associated with it. Many hybrids are that way, it's not at all unusual. So just leave the species field blank when you put it in Plant Files.
ginger749

October 14, 2007
5:56 AM

Post #4080678

Thanks ecrane3 ,
Kell
ginger749

October 14, 2007
7:17 AM

Post #4080793

OK ecrane3 ,
I did what you said and got this ???
What do I do NEXT ???


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kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 14, 2007
10:18 AM

Post #4080894

Kell, you put the cultivar name

Sid Cadwell

without quotes, in the box labelled
Cultivar Name,
below the species box,

Ken
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 14, 2007
10:19 AM

Post #4080895

Terry,

Could you please add the genus
Almaleea
in the Papilionaceae

thanks,

Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 14, 2007
12:24 PM

Post #4081044

Hi Ken,

I added Almaleea to the checklist - thanks!

Xenomorf

Xenomorf
Valley of the Sun, AZ
(Zone 9b)


October 15, 2007
3:32 PM

Post #4085202

Please add "Eberlanzia" in Aizoaceae
TIA.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 15, 2007
4:25 PM

Post #4085403

Eberlanzia has been added to the checklist!
ginger749

October 15, 2007
7:39 PM

Post #4086051

Terry,

Could you please add the genus
Elattostachys
in the Sapindaceae

thanks,

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 15, 2007
8:51 PM

Post #4086280

Elattostachys has been added to the checklist!
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 16, 2007
6:33 AM

Post #4088203

Terry, I just discovered that the plant I identified as Lepyrodia was in fact not that species, but the Tassel Rope-rush (Hypolaena fastigiata).

Because I created the entry I have been able to change its name, so that the image is now stored in the right place. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/112894/
I suspect that the genus Hypolaena in the Restionaceae, is not in your list and you may want to add it.

Are you aware that there is this loophole for adding a new genus. You simply add it as belonging to an already approved genus, and then edit the entry and chage the genus name. The change is not subject to the check that is applied if the new genus is entered directly,

Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 16, 2007
12:30 PM

Post #4088617

Hi Ken,

I've added it to the checklist. We also have a report that shows us any entries with a genus or family name not on the checklist, so we can keep tabs on anything that is out of place. Hopefully most people will continue to come through the "front door" and get us to put it in the checklist first so we can verify spellings and avoid potential duplicates (e.g., if you force an override but misspell the botanical name and an entry with the proper spelling already exists, then we have a bigger mess to sort out ;o)
ginger749

October 16, 2007
7:54 PM

Post #4090002

Terry,

Which of these three family names do I use here ?
Caesalpiniaceae, Mimosaceae, or Papilionaceae.
It's still under Fabaceae on this site : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Daviesia~latifolia

Genus is Daviesia
thanks,

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 16, 2007
8:50 PM

Post #4090156

Per this thread: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=869692 it's in the Papilionaceae

Another way to check would be to look for other existing entries n PlantFiles, and determine which family was applied to them: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher[common]=&searcher[family]=&searcher[genus]=daviesia&searcher[species]=&searcher[cultivar]=&searcher[hybridizer]=&search_prefs[blank_cultivar]=&search_prefs[sort_by]=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

ginger749

October 16, 2007
9:02 PM

Post #4090195

TaaM8 .
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 16, 2007
9:24 PM

Post #4090263

Kell,
there is already an entry for Daviesia latifolia here: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57152/

Ken
ginger749

October 16, 2007
9:26 PM

Post #4090271

I've already added 4 Pics . thanks Ken .
ginger749

October 17, 2007
6:30 AM

Post #4091958

Terry,

Could you please add the genus
Mirbelia
in the Papilionaceae
http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Mirbelia~speciosa

thanks,

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 17, 2007
12:21 PM

Post #4092395

Mirbelia has been added!
ginger749

October 19, 2007
6:33 PM

Post #4101472

Terry,

Could you please add the Family
Luzuriagaceae

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Geitonoplesium~cymosum

thanks,

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 19, 2007
6:40 PM

Post #4101502

Luzuriagaceae has been added to the family checklist ;o)
ginger749

October 19, 2007
7:05 PM

Post #4101559

That was very strange Terry .
At first I got the message ( this Family is not in the PF .)
Then you said ( Luzuriagaceae has been added )

When I went and re-sent it , Ken already had 3 or 4 Pics there ?
No big deal , Just curious .
Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 19, 2007
7:57 PM

Post #4101695

Not sure what you saw...I haven't seen any entries in this family come through yet.
ginger749

October 19, 2007
8:11 PM

Post #4101728

This is where I was directed to when I tried to add it .
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57431/


But it's a differtent Family name .

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 19, 2007
8:33 PM

Post #4101763

the system guesses at the family or genus name you're trying to add, which works pretty well in cases where there's a simple typographical error.

When your spelling is correct, but the checklist doesn't contain that family or genus name, then the system's guess is probably wrong - and may be way wrong ;o)
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 19, 2007
8:47 PM

Post #4101813

In this case, I think there has been a recent change in the family name. I believe that all the Australian Lilies and their near cousins have been changed recently. I suspect that none of the Australian lilies are in Liliaceae any more, and it seems that Smilacaceae has also been split up or otherwise modified.
Geitonoplesium is still in Smilacaceae in the Flora of Australia volume published 1987, and in the Flora of Victoria volume published in 1994, but is in Luzuriagaceae in the Flora of New South Wales volume, published in 1993.
Take your pick!
Ken
ginger749

October 19, 2007
9:34 PM

Post #4101955

Thanks Ken for clearing that up .
It's a lovely small vine no matter what we call it .
Have you tried eating it ?
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 19, 2007
10:33 PM

Post #4102168

No, but I read it can be used as an asparagus substitute. It doesn't grow near here, I have to drive 200km to find it!
ginger749

October 21, 2007
8:55 AM

Post #4106491

Terry,

Could you please add the Genus :
Triunia
in the Proteaceae

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Triunia~youngiana

thanks,

Kell
ginger749

October 21, 2007
10:21 PM

Post #4108191


Terry,

Could you please add the Genus :
Alchornea
in the Euphorbiaceae

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Alchornea~ilicifolia

thanks,

Kell
ginger749

October 22, 2007
12:05 AM

Post #4108514



Terry,

Could you please add the Genus :
Amylotheca
in the Loranthaceae

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Amylotheca~dictyophleba

thanks,

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 22, 2007
2:26 AM

Post #4108988

All three have been added to the checklist!
ginger749

October 22, 2007
3:42 AM

Post #4109265

Terry,

Could you please add the Genus :
Dawsonia
in the Polytrichaceae

See plant here : http://www.morwellnp.pangaean.net/cgi-bin/show_species.cgi?find_this=Dawsonia superba&image_size=0
Isn't the Web Site above where Ken Works or helps ?

thanks,

Kell
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 22, 2007
4:36 AM

Post #4109371

I don't think we are including mosses in PlantFiles at present. Terry what do you think?

Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 22, 2007
12:48 PM

Post #4109925

We have a few bryophytes scattered throughout PlantFiles. The general guiding principle has been as long as it falls within Plantae kingdom, we will include it.
ginger749

October 22, 2007
6:01 PM

Post #4111000

So does that mean Dawsonia is now included ?
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 22, 2007
8:36 PM

Post #4111546

I tried adding Dawsonia superba, and the family is now accepted, but the Genus Dawsonia is still rejected.

Terry,
Could you please add the genus Dawsonia in the family Polytrichaciae to the approved list.

I have several moss photos and will add some to PlantFiles if they are allowed.

Yes Kell, the web site you used to show Dawsonia, is the one that I maintain for Morwell National Park, and almost all the images on that site are mine.

Ken
ginger749

October 22, 2007
8:59 PM

Post #4111617

Well Ken you are doing a great job there .
Sounds like a great job .
And being able to take all those Pic's .
Just wonderful .

This moss is as close to a real tree as you can get .

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ginger749

October 23, 2007
2:13 AM

Post #4112946

Terry,

Could you please add the Genus :
Legnephora
in the Menispermaceae

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Legnephora~moorei
thanks,

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 23, 2007
2:41 AM

Post #4113095

Dawsonia and Legnephora have been added to the checklist.
ginger749

October 23, 2007
2:42 AM

Post #4113109

And another Terry,

Could you please add the Family :
Peperomiaceae
Genus: Peperomia

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Peperomia~tetraphyllathanks,
thanks

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 23, 2007
2:47 AM

Post #4113129

Peperomia is in there - we currently are applying Piperaceae as the family: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/b/Piperaceae/Peperomia/none/cultivar/0/

If it needs to be changed, one of our PF editorial team will ensure all existing entries are edited.
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 23, 2007
5:39 AM

Post #4113499

Kell, I have created the entry for Dawsonia superba and added my own images here: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/165580/

Ken
ginger749

October 23, 2007
9:21 AM

Post #4113597

Terry,

Could you please add the Family :
Lamiaceae

Genus: Spartothamnella

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Spartothamnella~juncea

thanks

Kell


Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 23, 2007
12:03 PM

Post #4113834

Spartothamnella has been added!
ginger749

October 23, 2007
5:55 PM

Post #4114980

Terry,

Could you please add the Genus :
Trochocarpa

in the Epacridaceae

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Trochocarpa~laurina

thanks,

Kell
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 23, 2007
8:30 PM

Post #4115543

Terry,
re; the request for Trochocarpa, this is one of many genera in Australia, until recently classified in Epacridaceae, but recently moved with all the Epacridaceae to Ericaceae.

I am suggesting, as we have many plants recorded as Epacridaceae, that we stick to Epacridaceae for this genus until such time as you decide that all Epacrids should become Ericaceae. The Flora of NSW has adopted the change recently, so that on-line all these plants are Ericaceae, but the printed version of the Flora of NSW still shows them all as Epacridaceae

Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 23, 2007
8:39 PM

Post #4115564

Ken your suggestion sounds like a reasonable approach.

I've added Trochocarpa to our checklist as a valid genus; let's continue using Epacridaceae as a valid family name for the time being, for this and other genera.

When the dust settles, we'll see if the lumpers or splitters seem to be in the majority, and determine if we need to shift some family names.
ginger749

October 24, 2007
4:01 AM

Post #4117178

Terry

I am trying to add a subsp. epilosus
to
Family: Rutaceae
Genus: Philotheca
Species: myoporoides

How do I do that ?

Thanks

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 24, 2007
12:03 PM

Post #4117680

Iit is entered as part of the specific epithet.

When you create the entry, in the species field enter "myoporoides subsp. epilosus" (no quote marks, of course)

Xenomorf

Xenomorf
Valley of the Sun, AZ
(Zone 9b)


October 26, 2007
2:21 PM

Post #4125446

Please add:
"Dasiphora" to Rosaceae
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DAFRF

TIA

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 26, 2007
6:06 PM

Post #4126099

Dasiphora has been added to the checklist!
ginger749

October 27, 2007
6:47 PM

Post #4129346

Terry,

Could you please add the Genus :
Melichrus

in the Ericaceae

See plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Melichrus~urceolatus

thanks,

Kell
ginger749

October 29, 2007
1:59 AM

Post #4133851

*Bump*
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

October 29, 2007
2:04 AM

Post #4133874

I don't think you need to bump this thread, I think Terry probably just decided to take a break for the weekend :-)
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



October 29, 2007
2:09 AM

Post #4133899

Melichrus has been added to the checklist.
ginger749

October 29, 2007
3:08 AM

Post #4134174

Thanks Joan .
ginger749

October 29, 2007
4:54 AM

Post #4134472

Joah

I am trying to enter Jacksonia
in Papilionaceae ,
I get a message the Genus name (Jacksonia) is not there .
According to this post by Terry http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=869692
It is there ?

This is the plant , http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Jacksonia~scoparia

Thanks

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 29, 2007
1:26 PM

Post #4135065

ecrane hit it on the head...I was out of pocket some this weekend (Sundays are usually my day off, although I'll pop in during the afternoon if everyone else is watching the game or napping ;o) A big thanks to Joan for stepping in!

Kell, I added Jacksonia to the checklist. The link you provided is a good reference ("map", if you will) of the families for each of those genera, but not all the names are in our checklist yet.)

kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



October 29, 2007
7:10 PM

Post #4136241

Melichrus urceolatus is caught up in this recent change of all Epacridaceae into Ericaceae. The new entry has been made as Ericaceae. I believe that for consistency, until a decision is made to change all Epacrids, this species should have its family changed to Epacridaceae: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/165733/
ginger749

October 31, 2007
12:41 AM

Post #4141226

Is there a PF entry for kangaroo paw's in general ?

I have about 10 Pic's and they are all Un-named Hybrids .

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


October 31, 2007
2:32 AM

Post #4141672

As a rule, we don't have "general" entries or allow unnamed hybrid photos...the few older entries you may see here and there are being gradually culled out.
ginger749

November 3, 2007
8:26 AM

Post #4152847

Please add Family name :
Uvulariaceae

You will find plant here :

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Tripladenia~cunninghamii



Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


November 3, 2007
3:06 PM

Post #4153526

We have the species Tripladenia cunninghamii entered here: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher[common]=&searcher[family]=&searcher[genus]=tripladenia&searcher[species]=&searcher[cultivar]=&searcher[hybridizer]=&search_prefs[blank_cultivar]=&search_prefs[sort_by]=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search
ginger749

November 8, 2007
5:03 PM

Post #4171698

Please add The genus name : Pullea
To Family : Cunoniaceae

Kell

http://www.chabg.gov.au/cgi-bin/phtml?pc=dig&pn=3805&size=2

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


November 8, 2007
8:56 PM

Post #4172478

Pullea has been added to the checklist.
ginger749

November 13, 2007
8:48 AM

Post #4187959

Request withdrawn .

Kell

This message was edited Nov 13, 2007 8:05 PM
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



November 13, 2007
9:52 PM

Post #4189879

Terry,

Could you please add the Genus: Austrostipa in the Poaceae to the list.
Most Australian Stipa species have been moved into Austrostipa. I have already modified Stipa rudis to Austrostipa rudis and added Stipa rudis as a synonym, and will be adding another Austrostipa species soon,
thanks,
Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


November 13, 2007
10:02 PM

Post #4189899

Austrostipa has been added!
ginger749

November 13, 2007
11:33 PM

Post #4190179

Ken ,

Is there a secret to getting a reply in ten minutes ?

I have waited up to two days at times .
I would really like to know ,
As I keep my Plant entry open so I don't loose all my information .
After five hours I get booted from my Internet .

Kell
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



November 14, 2007
2:25 AM

Post #4190728

Just luck, Terry does a great job looking after us, but is certainly not on full time watch over this thread. In any case we are on a completely different trime scale from hers.

I usually ask for new additions well ahead of using them. I an working through my slide collections scanning them and adding them to PlantFiles. I usually set up 100 plants that I will be scanning over the next weeks and then check which genera are already in PlantFiles and then put in a request for the missing ones. That means I am usually some weeks ahead with my requests.

I do occasionally have more immediate requests when I come across new plants. I just photographed Austrostipa muelleri, a beautiful and unusual grass, with single flowers instead of heads, spikes, racemes or what have you. I checked that a couple of days before wanting to upload the images and chanced to do so while Terry was checking this forum.

I usually add 5 images a day, and I currently have 190 images ready for uploading, so I am well ahead with all my new genera!

Ken
ginger749

November 14, 2007
2:52 AM

Post #4190824

Thanks Ken .

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


November 14, 2007
2:55 AM

Post #4190835

It was just plain luck that I saw Ken's request (when the thread pops up on my thread watcher, I have no idea who has posted to it - when I see it's got a new post, I come take a gander.)

A couple things to keep in mind:

1) The other PlantFiles editors can also help you out with checklist additions. However, if you address your request to one of us specifically, we'll probably leave it for that person as a courtesy; and

2) I'm not likely to be around on weekends - probably less likely than some of the other editors who handle PlantFiles in their off hours. (I regularly log 50+ hours a week M-F here on the site, so I try to take off most of the day on Sunday to spend some downtime with my family. In the fall, Saturdays are also busy with football games and swim meets ;o)

So long story short...if you post a note to me after 10:00 any weeknight, I probably won't see it for 8-10 hours; if you post it on Friday night, it may be Monday before I get back to it.
ginger749

November 14, 2007
5:34 AM

Post #4191187

Thanks Terry .

So there is a secret in a manner of speaking .

I am going to try to keep ahead of myself like Ken suggested .
At the moment I have posted all the Pics I want to post .

From now on they will be all new for me , Pics .
Also Flower season is almost over for us in Qld .
Now the fruit begins .

Cheers Kell
ginger749

November 17, 2007
8:24 AM

Post #4202553

Could some one please add Family: Lomandraceae

Genus is : Lomandra

Link to Plant is : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Lomandra~hystrix

Kell
ginger749

November 17, 2007
8:39 AM

Post #4202556

Also could some one add : Rutaceae to the family list .

Genus: Flindersia

Link to tree . http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Flindersia~australis


Kell
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



November 17, 2007
10:38 AM

Post #4202585

Kell, Lomandra is already in Plantfiles, it is usually placed in Xanthorrhoeaceae:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher[common]=&searcher[family]=&searcher[genus]=Lomandra&searcher[species]=&searcher[cultivar]=&searcher[hybridizer]=&search_prefs[blank_cultivar]=&search_prefs[sort_by]=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

Ken
mystic
Ewing, KY
(Zone 6a)


November 17, 2007
3:33 PM

Post #4203209

Flindersia has been added to the accepted list. You should be able to add your entry now.
ginger749

November 20, 2007
4:26 AM

Post #4212582



Please add Genus : Tetraria

To Family : Cyperaceae

See Plant here : http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Tetraria~capillaris

Kell

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


November 20, 2007
4:30 AM

Post #4212596

Tetraria has been added to the checklist.
ginger749

November 21, 2007
8:30 AM

Post #4216295

WOW Terry ,
Four minutes for that last response .
I must have cracked the 'CODE' LOL

I now have a dilemma .
I took these Pic's yesterday .
What do I put This Eucalypt under ?
I have some great Pic's of the tree and gum nuts .
Please look at this name tag .

Looks like a three in one Tree ?

Cheers Kell


Thumbnail by ginger749
Click the image for an enlarged view.

kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



November 21, 2007
8:42 AM

Post #4216299

kell,

That would be entered with the genus as Eucalyptus,
the species left blank and the name Summer Red entered as the cultivar name. There may be a way to indicate the parent species (Terry will know), but you can usefully add that information in a comment.

Ken
ginger749

November 21, 2007
9:14 AM

Post #4216306

Thanks Ken ,

As this grafted Tree is a little out of my league ,
could YOU please add it for me at your convenience .

TaaM8

Kell
ginger749

November 21, 2007
9:24 AM

Post #4216311

As you can see in this Pic .

The Gum Nuts are something special .

That's my finger at the top .
I was allowed to take a few of them .
Not sure if they are viable .

Kell

Thumbnail by ginger749
Click the image for an enlarged view.

kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



November 21, 2007
11:31 AM

Post #4216379

OK Kell, here it is: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/166224/

note that it is not now considered as Eucalyptus: http://asgap.org.au/APOL2007/jun07-s2.html
Along with its parents Eucalyptus ficifolia and Eucalyptus ptychocarpa, it has been moved to Corymbia

Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


November 21, 2007
1:37 PM

Post #4216659

Ken, thanks for helping with this one - not only are Eucalyptus not a specialty of mine (they don't grow so well in zone 6b/7a), but I'm going to be a little hit-or-miss with the holiday this week.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

November 21, 2007
3:20 PM

Post #4217103

When I add a plant that's a hybrid and I know the parent species, I usually just add a neutral-rated comment to the plant and include that info there.

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


November 23, 2007
6:27 AM

Post #4221526

Would you please add Mimetes under Proteaceae.

thanks,
Kelley
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



November 23, 2007
7:37 AM

Post #4221586

Mimetes has been added to the checklist.

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


November 23, 2007
8:25 AM

Post #4221621

Thank you, Joan.

Kell

Kell
Northern California, CA
(Zone 9b)


November 30, 2007
6:17 AM

Post #4245762

Can you add Chimonocalamus to Poaceae for me?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimonocalamus

I want to add Chimonocalamus pallens. Thanks

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


November 30, 2007
1:25 PM

Post #4246138

Kell, Chimonocalamus has been added to the checklist.
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



December 1, 2007
7:56 PM

Post #4250965

Could you please add the genus
Platylobium
in the Papilionaceae
to the approved list,

Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


December 1, 2007
11:22 PM

Post #4251616

Ken, Platylobium has been added!
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



December 2, 2007
2:03 AM

Post #4252211

Thanks Terry,

Sorry to come back so soon with another request, but I just went for a walk in Mathison Park and discovered and photographed an unfamiliar grass, which proved to be Hainardia cylindrica.

Could you please therefor add the genus
Hainardia
in the Poaceae
to the approved list,

Ken
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



December 2, 2007
2:14 AM

Post #4252256

I added it for you Ken.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


December 2, 2007
1:32 PM

Post #4253112

Thanks, Joan! (I was definitely more out than in yesterday...but most of our leaves are shredded and composting now ;o)
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



December 2, 2007
3:57 PM

Post #4253504

And I was more in than out. We've got a nice new blanket of snow covering up all our leaves. Out of sight out of mind. :)

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


December 2, 2007
6:59 PM

Post #4253948

Poor Joan! We were in Kansas over Thanksgiving and got about 2" of snow while we were there. Unless this year is very different from most years, that may be more snow than we get all winter here. Before you start a fire under the tarpot to dip me in, we *do* get some cold days and nights; just not much snow :-(
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



December 2, 2007
7:32 PM

Post #4254047

I hope we get 10 feet of snow this year. We have been in such a drought for so long that I think it's going to take a good hard winter with lots of snow to break that cycle. Last time we had any significant amount of snow was in 1992, and the last summer we had adequate rainfall was in 1993.

Now my neighbors up here in the frozen tundra are going to bombard me with snowballs. :)
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



December 13, 2007
8:10 AM

Post #4289990

Terry,
could you please add the genus Ficinia in the Cyperaceae to the approved list?
thanks,
Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


December 13, 2007
3:50 PM

Post #4290785

Ken, Ficinia has been added to the checklist ;o)
kennedyh
Churchill, Victoria
Australia
(Zone 10a)



January 7, 2008
9:01 PM

Post #4372132

Terry, a couple more genera to add please

in the Asteraceae:
Pallenis

and in the Papilionaceae:
Cullen

Cullen is an odd name for a genus, having not been Latinised as most names are. It incorporates all the Australian peas that were formerly placed in Psoralea, but we don't seem to have any Australian Psoraleas in PlantFiles yet, so we don't have to do any adjustment. I have images of three Cullen species and will add them all eventually,

Ken

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


January 7, 2008
11:36 PM

Post #4372833

I added Pallenis and Cullen to the list - thanks!
htop
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)


January 13, 2008
10:02 PM

Post #4397117

Please add Pseudananas to Bromeliaceae. The plant I need to add is Pseudananas macrodontes (formerly Pseudananas sagenarius) has been renamed once and may be renamed into the Ananas genus. I don't think it has as of yet.

I have been unable to add synonym names except in the comments space. Because the comments are not searchable, I have been a bit worried about placing them there.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


January 13, 2008
10:14 PM

Post #4397157

Pseudananas has been added to the checklist!
htop
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)


January 13, 2008
10:19 PM

Post #4397167

Thanks, Terry.
bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

January 30, 2008
7:50 AM

Post #4472490

Terry, can you please add
Family: Teleoschistaceae
Genus: Xanthoria
to Plant Files?

Thank you!

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


January 30, 2008
6:58 PM

Post #4474279

Bonitin, I added Xanthoria to the checklist. I think the spelling of the family name is Teloschistaceae, and it's in the checklist already ;o)
bonitin
Gent
Belgium
(Zone 8a)

January 30, 2008
8:01 PM

Post #4474510

Thank you Terry!

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


January 30, 2008
8:17 PM

Post #4474587

You're very welcome!

Since this thread is getting a bit long, I'm starting a new thread for additions to the checklist here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/808785/




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